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Looks nice, some good features, 1:10 twist in the .308 version and even if the dollar price turns out to be Euro or a little more it's not too expensive.

Have to wait and see what they may cost here, but it's a sweet looking rifle.

No idea. Never shot the 6.5 Creedmoor.

For F-Class it's .308 (FTR) and usually 6.5x284 or some variant of the 7mm (F-Open). Doesn't quite fit in any other place. However with a 20" barrel i wouldn't be looking at it for target work, well not only. It'd make a superb medium to short range target rifle (sub 600 yards) and it's not too heavy that hunting would be out of the question.

Sane price indeed.

The Savage TRR-SR took my fancy a couple of years ago. Price in the states was $495 (or thereabouts). The cheapest quote i got here, even from a dealer with them in stock, was €895. That was just under $1,200 at the exchange rates at the time. When i asked why the huge price increase i was told taxes. So i done some checking.

To get the rifle in myself, pay the necessary taxes, duties, and even including the once off export fee from the states the cost was €650. All in.

I've talked about this before and while i understand that shops have overheads, etc they also don't pay full retail price per firearm. IOW they could have sold the gun at €695 and still made a decent profit. Instead they seemed to be milking it for another €200. That is some profit margin.

tac foley wrote: »

The Ruger rifle is here in UK - http://valmontfirearms.co.uk/rugerrifles.html

£1400.00 to you, sir.

At current exchange rates thats, more or less, €2,000. Ouch.

Less the 20% UK sales tax, of course - lucky you.

Can you explain this please. Having a blonde moment.

However, THIS is what really gets up MY nose - quote....'What other $1,200 factory rifle can be counted on to shoot half-MOA five-shot groups?'

tac

Yeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh..................

• Savage
• Tikka
• Sako
• Some CZs
• Hell even my R-15 can do that at 100 yards (granted i only fired 3 shots, but that was down to lack of ammo rather than ability).

I seen an advert a couple of years ago for some "GT model" new sporting rifle from a very well known manufacturer that claimed a half MOA at 100 yards guaranteed as though this was unheard of in other brands and models.

Yup.

Good scope at at least a grand, rings, bipod, etc and you're looking at north of €3,300.

No harm to Ruger, its a fantastic looking rifle and i'm sure a great shooter, but at that money i'd be looking full custom build or something with more pedigree that is either a dedicated hunting rifle or target rifle. Not some sporter, in between jobbie.

tac foley wrote: »

So how much is your custom rifle, less all the bits that I mentioned?

To build one? Depends on the purpose and obviosuly the components used, but a rough guess would be:

• Hunting rifle - Around €2,200 to €2,500 would build a fine hunting rig with no scope, etc. With scope, bipod, rings, etc. approx €3,500.
• Target rifle (F-class, etc) - €3,300 to €3,700 for the rifle only, and with scope, etc could run into the €6,500 or more mark.

The Ruger doesn't seem to fall squarely into either category. Bit heavy/bulky for deer stalking although one of my rigs is 14lb or more. I can change that back to 10 with a stock change. Guaranteed it won't hold up against a full F-class rifle out to 1,000 yards. Not with lads holding sub 1/2 MOA (and smaller) groups.

Then again i could be wrong. I'm only going on what ive seen from other manufacturers with such short barreled rifles.

The two gun-stores I went in back home in Ontario between them had over a hundred of them on back order

And if they were $1,400 or even €1,400 here i'd see the same happening. However with the price as you quoted above of £1,400 (€2,000) without anything on it i'm not so sure.

Plus Ireland wouldn't be blip on Ruger's radar so i'm fairly sure they're not overly concerned with how it sells here.

No. That only applies to shotguns. SI 21/2008

(b) shotguns manufactured, adapted or modified so as to render them incapable of containing more than 3 cartridges, but not to shotguns—

(i) with a detached, folding or telescopic stock, or

(ii) with a pistol grip, or

(iii) whose barrel is less than 60.9 centimetres (24 inches) in length;