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Lyric fm's Breakfast show presenter - Marty Whelan.

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  • #1702
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    OK - found the magazine and read the whole article. It's not as condemnatory of Marty all the way through as in the first paragraphs I quoted - but it certainly ain't a glowing tribute either.

    The only ones even attempting to justify the shambles that is Marty in the Morning its producer and the head of Lyric - hardly a surprise there. All of the others quoted in the article - including a professor of music in UCC and a contemporary composer - seem to recognise the problem in the dumbing down of the station. They have the height of praise for the stations specialist programmes, while damning the likes of Marty and Classic Drive with faint praise.

    I enjoy Classic Drive - it's popular stuff, but at least it sticks to the brief and it's music, not the presenter on an ego-trip.

    George Hamilton also comes in for a bit of stick - although I quite enjoy his programmes when he sticks to the music and not the football puns, he clearly knows his stuff.

    John Kelly, although he's a bit out-there for my taste, also clearly knows his stuff, and I have no objection to him whatsoever - I simply don't listen as it's not what I enjoy (most of the time).

    It's the total waste of the two hours at prime time in the morning to stupid jokes and drivel and clearly non-classical/art music on a station that is meant to be a classical/art music station that galls me.

    Did I say I was out earlier :rolleyes:

    Actually it wasn't a UCC professor. It was only Harry White from UCD.

    The composer whose name escapes me was wanting things like Stravinsky and Schoenburg. Bernard does a super job for a minuscule minority on Sunday nights but you couldn't have that on in the morning slot - even if a presenter had Marty's gift of the gab.

    All in all the article in the Sunday Times Irish edition was a tribute to the work.

    On the suggestion that I am male .... what makes you say that? It's hurtful and sexist.

    As for Marty and opera: listen to the programme tomorrow then, because if it's like the programme every other morning it will have opera repeatedly. This week already we have have Puccini a few times and a bit of Verdi. Marty is giving a lecture on Tosca to the group in Berlin and I think he is probably going to do one on our Verona trip too. Just contact anyone who was on the Travel Department trip which was second to none for quality and fun.

    The long and the short of it is that the Marty Whelan Show is an avenue into the light classical / crossover genre. It's not the only route in by any means but it is one of the best ways of making it palatable for the mass of the plain people of Ireland. It's all very well for people who have had the bit of education to be complaining that he's not playing Brahms. But not everyone has been to speech & drama or had piano lessons or been in Billy Barrie. People without the advantages of the small number of very noisy critics of the programme shouldn't be made to suffer again for not being in a position to educate themselves musically through Marty.


  • #1703
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    It's all very well for people who have had the bit of education to be complaining that he's not playing Brahms. But not everyone has been to speech & drama or had piano lessons or been in Billy Barrie. People without the advantages of the small number of very noisy critics of the programme shouldn't be made to suffer again for not being in a position to educate themselves musically through Marty.

    You're really being judgmental and unfair to huge sections of the population. What you're saying is that people won't listen to Classical Music unless they're lured in by Marty or on the other hand taught to like it at a young age.

    I'd point out Classic FM in London as an example of why you're so wrong. In the last few years it's had a listener-ship figures of 6 million. It's light and has a limited playlist during the day, but it's never ever played pop music to lure listeners in.

    Marty would have been fired on the first morning if he were broadcasting for them, Assuming he played what he normally plays on lyric FM.


  • #1704
    bbability
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Marty is doing a fine job at Lyric. I quite enjoy Marty on Lyric. He figures are excellent and he's opened the ears of many a new presenter. It's a pity people don't have the same opinion on Gay Byrne.


  • #1705
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Looking at the playlists for the last 2/3 weeks, approximately one quarter of the music played is classical and that does not include opera. Opera wise, very little is getting played. The balance is split between pop, musicals, cinema and some other contemporary stuff with a preponderance of pop and cinema.

    On balance, this is not the split I would expect on a classical station. Bach and Vivaldi are the most frequently played composers on the classical stream, and the Flight of the Bumble Bee has been - apparently - played three times in the last three weeks.

    Outside the scope of classical the big winners are Burt Bacharach and Ennio Morricone.

    Make of that what you will.
    The long and the short of it is that the Marty Whelan Show is an avenue into the light classical / crossover genre. It's not the only route in by any means but it is one of the best ways of making it palatable for the mass of the plain people of Ireland.

    This is the snobbiest sh1te I think I've read today.
    It's all very well for people who have had the bit of education to be complaining that he's not playing Brahms.

    He does play Brahms. Not much, I'll grant you, but he's given the boy an outing all the same.
    But not everyone has been to speech & drama or had piano lessons or been in Billy Barrie.

    This is not a prerequisite for an interest in or enjoyment of classical music


  • #1706
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    As for Marty and opera: listen to the programme tomorrow then, because if it's like the programme every other morning it will have opera repeatedly. This week already we have have Puccini a few times and a bit of Verdi. Marty is giving a lecture on Tosca to the group in Berlin and I think he is probably going to do one on our Verona trip too. Just contact anyone who was on the Travel Department trip which was second to none for quality and fun.

    The nit pickers may crib about Marty's pronunciation (we can't all be up to the level of polyglots like George Hamilton), and he wears his erudition so lightly, that one can easily be forgiven for not knowing what a highly regarded authority on Puccini he is. A fine treat in store for the Berlin group. :)


  • #1707
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    bbability wrote: »
    Marty is doing a fine job at Lyric. I quite enjoy Marty on Lyric. He figures are excellent and he's opened the ears of many a new presenter. It's a pity people don't have the same opinion on Gay Byrne.

    I think some people have a low tolerance for those whose musical spectrum is not as wide his - and hanker after a return to their more limited sphere of comfort.


  • #1708
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    <<The long and the short of it is that the Marty Whelan Show is an avenue into the light classical / crossover genre. It's not the only route in by any means but it is one of the best ways of making it palatable for the mass of the plain people of Ireland. It's all very well for people who have had the bit of education to be complaining that he's not playing Brahms. But not everyone has been to speech & drama or had piano lessons or been in Billy Barrie. People without the advantages of the small number of very noisy critics of the programme shouldn't be made to suffer again for not being in a position to educate themselves musically through Marty.>>

    What the actual f*** ???

    I don't even know where to start with this, so I won't.

    :eek:

    <<I think some people have a low tolerance for those whose musical spectrum is not as wide his - and hanker after a return to their more limited sphere of comfort. >>

    And I'm afraid I just plain don't understand this......... (proving that I'm not the highly educated snob that you seem to think we all are)


  • #1709
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    On the suggestion that I am male .... what makes you say that? It's hurtful and sexist.
    Your words. Your phrasing. It was a computer program that analysed your posts. It is remarkable how such things work.
    But not everyone has been to speech & drama or had piano lessons or been in Billy Barrie.
    Poor Billy Barrie.
    educate themselves musically through Marty.
    Really? Wouldn't that require some level of knowledge beyond CD covers?

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1710
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    And I'm afraid I just plain don't understand this.........
    It is an aria from LyricFM's new opera "The Socks' Chorus". :)

    Regards...jmcc


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  • #1711
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,780 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have no opinions on the music on Marty Whelan's programme - I would usually be driving and not giving it sufficient concentration to analyse the balance of his choice of music, it seems ok when he eventually gets round to it. I do however strongly dislike his eternal wittering, his jokes that he always gabbles and loses the punchline of, and his pointless, endless rambling about anything and nothing. I want to listen to music, not his voice.


  • #1712
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Have to say at this stage that I'm out and not in a HeidiHeidi way, I am going to try to avoid temptation...for at least a week.

    So to HeidiHeidi, jmcc and others that appear to be somewhat normal (more normal than me anyway) A very good evening.

    And to Yvonne23R a very good night!


  • #1713
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    At the end of the day, RTE/Lyric is spending taxpayers money to fulfill a function nobody asked it to. The entire entity is losing money and that tab is picked up by the taxpayer, most of whom earn a lot less than the people RTE employ.
    It exists for the benefit of its employees and not for the public.
    There is nothing that could be described as public service about Marty Whelan's show. So why is it there? I can only conclude that it exists purely to provide this man with a wage.
    Some people are obviously happy with that. Happy to doff the cap and praise those they see as their 'betters'.


  • #1714
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    jmcc wrote: »
    Your words. Your phrasing. It was a computer program that analysed your posts. It is remarkable how such things work.

    Poor Billy Barrie.

    Really? Wouldn't that require some level of knowledge beyond CD covers?

    Regards...jmcc

    I think your machine - and I've never heard of a machine that could do that - is flaky. In any case I speak exactly the same way as my husband I'm told so I don't think there is any difference between the two genders of people. If I was talking about football or something like that or plumbing or higher maths I could understand it possibly.

    What the Marty Whelan show (radio) does is give a springboard to other talents to get a bit of exposure and a springboard for ordinary people (like me!!! ;) ) to get a bit deeper up the road in classical-crossover-jazz music and so on.

    On Bach and the other serious composers, Badinerie and the Bumble Bee are good because they are short and can be a filler coming up to a programme point. The Minute Waltz is a bit of a flop as that though because it runs over time in most recordings. :)


  • #1715
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Its International Day of Happiness. :)

    Treat yourself if you missed this morning's show :
    http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/marty-in-the-morning/


  • #1716
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    The nit pickers may crib about Marty's pronunciation (we can't all be up to the level of polyglots like George Hamilton), and he wears his erudition so lightly, that one can easily be forgiven for not knowing what a highly regarded authority on Puccini he is. A fine treat in store for the Berlin group. :)

    I think they will be really lucky. I'm trying to swing it to get on both tours, but budgets being what they are. :(


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  • #1717
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    I think they will be really lucky. I'm trying to swing it to get on both tours, but budgets being what they are. :(

    Whats the opera for the Verona one ?


  • #1718
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    I think your machine - and I've never heard of a machine that could do that - is flaky.
    Not a machine - a computer program. Based on your words, phrases and style of your posts, there is a 61.53% possibility (based on a limited sample of text) that you are posting in a male manner. Males and females have different writing styles.
    In any case I speak exactly the same way as my husband I'm told so I don't think there is any difference between the two genders of people. If I was talking about football or something like that or plumbing or higher maths I could understand it possibly.
    You burble along in quite the same manner as Marty.
    The Minute Waltz is a bit of a flop as that though because it runs over time in most recordings. :)
    Perhaps your beloved Marty could explain. Just in case he cannot, the word 'Minute' is not a minute as in timing but rather minute as in small. Kind of like the 100 Years War (1337 to 1453), catgut, Panama hats etc.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1719
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Whats the opera for the Verona one ?

    The opera we are going to is "Romeo & Juliette" in Gounod's version. It's a bit heavy and not as well known as the usual Puccini or Verdi (like Aida or the Hebrew Slaves (Nabucco).

    Here's some useful information if you're coming too with the Travel Department who are very good organising everything half board.

    Marty Whelan will give his lecture on the opera in a room in the Arena earlier in the day, to "set the scene" and help us get more out of it than we could otherwise. It's going to be sung in Italian rather than in Shakespeare's original version, because that's the language of opera - as Marty pointed out before Tosca last year. Not that Tosca is by Shakespeare you understand. ;) But you can't go wrong with the bit of Puccini either.

    http://www.traveldepartment.ie/itinerary-details/lake-garda-venice-and-the-verona-opera-4-star-including-gounods-romeo-and-juliet/672

    Let me know if you manage to go. It's lovely to meet Marty informally out there too over dinner or the bit of lunch. He has a word for everyone without an inch of snobbery. He's exactly in real life as he is on the radio in fact or on TV. :) Except taller, of course.


  • #1720
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    jmcc wrote: »
    Not a machine - a computer program. Based on your words, phrases and style of your posts, there is a 61.53% possibility (based on a limited sample of text) that you are posting in a male manner. Males and females have different writing styles.

    You burble along in quite the same manner as Marty.

    Perhaps your beloved Marty could explain. Just in case he cannot, the word 'Minute' is not a minute as in timing but rather minute as in small. Kind of like the 100 Years War (1337 to 1453), catgut, Panama hats etc.

    Regards...jmcc

    I have no idea what you mean about catgut or hats. I'm trying to stick to the facts here.
    :cool:


  • #1721
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    The opera we are going to is "Romeo & Juliette" in Gounod's version. It's a bit heavy and not as well known as the usual Puccini or Verdi (like Aida or the Hebrew Slaves (Nabucco).

    Gounod? Heavy?

    I don't think I'd agree.
    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    It's going to be sung in Italian rather than in Shakespeare's original version, because that's the language of opera - as Marty pointed out before Tosca last year.

    The original lyrics/libretto for Gounod's Romeo and Juliette were in French, not English. The language of opera is not uniquely Italian either. There are quite a few great works in French and German too. You seem to be quite narrow minded if you accept soundbites like "language of opera" being Italian.
    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    Let me know if you manage to go. It's lovely to meet Marty informally out there too over dinner or the bit of lunch. He has a word for everyone without an inch of snobbery. He's exactly in real life as he is on the radio in fact or on TV. :) Except taller, of course.

    I'm not sure I'd agree with the taller bit either.


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  • #1722
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Seems to be a lot of borderline commercial promotion of the Martydom Opera trips.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1723
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    Calina wrote: »
    Gounod? Heavy?
    I don't think I'd agree.

    The original lyrics/libretto for Gounod's Romeo and Juliette were in French, not English. The language of opera is not uniquely Italian either. There are quite a few great works in French and German too. You seem to be quite narrow minded if you accept soundbites like "language of opera" being Italian.

    I'm not sure I'd agree with the taller bit either.

    I was told here that Gounod wrote Faust and you can't get heavier than that! :)

    The lecture pointed out last year and everyone knows that Italian is the language of opera. Of course that doesn't mean that there aren't other languages that operas were written in. The Merry Widow for example was written originally in German and Carmen was originally written in French, although hardly anybody seems to know that. But the tall and the short of it is that operas were written Italian because then Italian was the international language of music back then. And it's easier to sing Italian than any other language because it is made up mainly of vowels a,e,i,o,u. German doesn't work because it's full of consonants - b,c,d etc.

    Marty Whelan stood about nearly a full head higher than my husband last summer and he's five-seven. So I think we can all agree that he is tall.


  • #1724
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    I was told here that Gounod wrote Faust and you can't get heavier than that! :)

    The lecture pointed out last year and everyone knows that Italian is the language of opera. Of course that doesn't mean that there aren't other languages that operas were written in. The Merry Widow for example was written originally in German and Carmen was originally written in French, although hardly anybody seems to know that. But the tall and the short of it is that operas were written Italian because then Italian was the international language of music back then. And it's easier to sing Italian than any other language because it is made up mainly of vowels a,e,i,o,u. German doesn't work because it's full of consonants - b,c,d etc.

    Marty Whelan stood about nearly a full head higher than my husband last summer and he's five-seven. So I think we can all agree that he is tall.

    WTF? :confused:

    Even by your standards, that's a fairly bizarre thing to say. A linguist, as well as an opera (almost) expert, are we?


  • #1725
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    The opera we are going to is "Romeo & Juliette" in Gounod's version. It's a bit heavy and not as well known as the usual Puccini or Verdi (like Aida or the Hebrew Slaves (Nabucco).

    Ripper !
    Have seen the DiCaprio film which was very operatic itself. Bit daunting though if its heavy and so a bit surprised Marty would choose it. But I'm sure he knows what he is doing, he knows his audience so well. Tried to listen to a performance of Nabucco a couple of years ago and apart from the chorus (which is really great!) I have to say, by my standards, the rest of it was certainly pretty heavy. But would love to give R&G a go if I can and I am sure the pre-performance briefing from will ensure everyone has a chance of getting through it and enjoying parts.


  • #1726
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    WTF? :confused:

    Even by your standards, that's a fairly bizarre thing to say. A linguist, as well as an opera (almost) expert, are we?

    Not sure why thats bizarre, linguist or not. I all types of music, not just opera, Italian (and French), just sound better then German (which can sound pretty ugly at times, even in Schubert or Brahms). English is not much better than German. I think most people would agree with this.


  • #1727
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Not sure why thats bizarre, linguist or not. I all types of music, not just opera, Italian (and French), just sound better then German (which can sound pretty ugly at times, even in Schubert or Brahms). English is not much better than German. I think most people would agree with this.
    Answering from the wrong account again? :)

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1728
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    jmcc wrote: »
    Answering from the wrong account again? :)

    Regards...jmcc
    :confused::confused::confused:



    Just making the point to Heidi that its widely known that Latin based languages are easier to sing in and sounds better to most people that German based languages. Would you not agree ?


  • #1729
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Just making the point to Heidi that its widely known that Latin based languages are easier to sing in and sounds better to most people that German based languages. Would you not agree ?
    A rather simplistic view that ignores the possibility that it might be easier to sing in a language if one is a native speaker. But then how many people actually speak any Latin languages or even German?

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1730
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    jmcc wrote: »
    A rather simplistic view that ignores the possibility that it might be easier to sing in a language if one is a native speaker. But then how many people actually speak any Latin languages or even German?

    Regards...jmcc

    Agree to disagree I guess. But we are dragging off topic a thread whose aim is to celebrate and spread the word on a great broadcaster widening the audience for fine music.


  • #1731
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Interesting thread running here on what the plan people of Ireland like in classical music. This is Marty's audience and one he caters for very well by the looks of it:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057172354


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  • #1732
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Interesting thread running here on what the plan people of Ireland like in classical music.
    But not quite the schlock played on Mediocrity In the Morning, is it?
    This is Marty's audience and one he caters for very well by the looks of it:
    No it is not. He's just a failed 2FM DJ who is trying desperately to reinvent himself as something he quite clearly is not. The general consensus from the plain people of Ireland and those who really do know is that he is not an "expert" on Opera. As for the pretentious douchebaggery about the "plain" people of Ireland, the "plain" people of Ireland couldn't really give a damn. The plain people of Ireland don't listen to Mediocrity In The Morning. People will remember Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Morricone and others. But will anyone remember Whelan for great musical or operatic works?

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1733
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Interesting thread running here on what the plan people of Ireland like in classical music. This is Marty's audience and one he caters for very well by the looks of it:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057172354

    I'm getting tired about comments about the plain people of Ireland.


  • #1734
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Calina wrote: »
    I'm getting tired about comments about the plain people of Ireland.


    An update of "let them eat cake" ?
    Lyric is for everyone. Even the plain people of Ireland. This fact seems to irk our more select RIAM and TCD Music grads.


  • #1735
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    An update of "let them eat cake" ?
    For us "plain" people of Ireland it is. While overpaid failures like your beloved Marty get bailouts and dig-out jobs, the poor, "plain" people of Ireland have to pay that extortion called a "licence" fee.
    Lyric is for everyone.
    Seems to be being used as a dumping ground for failures rather than a showcase of knowledge and talent.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1736
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    An update of "let them eat cake" ?
    Lyric is for everyone. Even the plain people of Ireland. This fact seems to irk our more select RIAM and TCD Music grads.

    That's it in a nutshell. And already today we've had Lehar, John Rutter, Karl Jenkins and a piece of piano music. And more to come.


  • #1737
    DownBeaten
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭DownBeaten


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    An update of "let them eat cake" ?
    Lyric is for everyone. Even the plain people of Ireland. This fact seems to irk our more select RIAM and TCD Music grads.

    But which Lyric, Yvonne?

    The one represented on weekday mornings from 7 to 10: Presenter-centric, MITR crap, verbal diahrrea, etc.

    The rest of the day: Presenters who know something about the genre they play and know that people listen to a station like Lyric for the MUSIC and not to hear their verbal flatulence.


  • #1738
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    DownBeaten wrote: »
    But which Lyric, Yvonne?

    The one represented on weekday mornings from 7 to 10: Presenter-centric, MITR crap, verbal diahrrea, etc.

    The rest of the day: Presenters who know something about the genre they play and know that people listen to a station like Lyric for the MUSIC and not to hear their verbal flatulence.

    You could be at the opening night of the Wexford Opera Festival with Marty Whelan if you enter his competition (and win) today. Tickets plus an overnight in Wexford for two at the Gala Opening hosted by Marty Whelan.

    Did you notice that Ireland's premier classical and opera music festival respects what the Marty Show does for music in Ireland. Maybe us lesser people should take a leave out of their book, and do the same. With Marty Whelan opera appeals to those who are well up in it as well as the plain people of Ireland.

    This is what Lyric FM should be about - linking all kinds of people to all kinds of music.


  • #1739
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,674 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I heard approximately 60 seconds of MW this morning around 9am. It solely consisted of some awful story about people called Daphne, Myrtle and Soledad. There was no music. It seemed to have no relevance to music, let alone classical music. Appalling.

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  • #1740
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I heard approximately 60 seconds of MW this morning around 9am. It solely consisted of some awful story about people called Daphne, Myrtle and Soledad. There was no music. It seemed to have no relevance to music, let alone classical music. Appalling.

    I missed that but I disagree. I only caught hour one because I'd to get to the station.

    The last thing I heard was a bit of Strauss the Younger - his French polka. But I really enjoy the continuing story of Daphne, Myrtle and Soledad. It's so true to life that it reminds me of John McGahern or Maeve Binchy at their bests. There's usually music in them too always, as far as I remember. I heard one of the stories last week that I loved, but I can't remember what it was about.


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  • #1741
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I heard approximately 60 seconds of MW this morning around 9am. It solely consisted of some awful story about people called Daphne, Myrtle and Soledad. There was no music. It seemed to have no relevance to music, let alone classical music. Appalling.

    I tuned in to Lyric at one stage this morning and Mart (as he refers to himself) was playing the theme from The Flintstones :(


  • #1742
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    I heard one of the stories last week that I loved, but I can't remember what it was about.

    That really says a lot, so it does.


  • #1743
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    Calina wrote: »
    That really says a lot, so it does.
    I mean I can't remember exactly what it was about! I remember it like a dream - only half there. -- But it was hilarious and at the same time deep. There's always something to take away from the Daphne story.


  • #1744
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yvonne23R wrote: »
    I mean I can't remember exactly what it was about! I remember it like a dream - only half there. -- But it was hilarious and at the same time deep. There's always something to take away from the Daphne story.
    Perhaps you and Marty can write a book (or napkin) - the "Musings of Marty". It might sell well in the RTE canteen. It really has no place on what used to be a Classical/Arts station.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #1745
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    jmcc wrote: »
    Perhaps you and Marty can write a book (or napkin) - the "Musings of Marty". It might sell well in the RTE canteen. It really has no place on what used to be a Classical/Arts station.

    Regards...jmcc

    Thats taking a very narrow view of a classical arts station. As it happens, I was thinking we could do with a new thread here collecting these stories. I am sure a lot of people would enjoy them. That one last week was a gem but I cant remember it well enough to do justice to retelling it. And I missed this mornings show completely because I had to help out at my daughter's school.

    Light chat to give us a giggle at that time of the morning is just what we need. Nobody wants a discussion on the Schopenhaurian elements of Parsifal (we probably aren't even in the mood for some Parsifal at all). If you just want music, then power up your ipod or spin a disc. This thread seems to have attracted a particular type of poster who doesn't take kindly to people approving of the current new improved Lyric, and hankers after some highfaluting musical purity. Hugo Brady Brown and Almiviva came in for a lot of abuse and seem to have been driven away, but its great to see Yvonne had a change of heart after a hiatus and decided to speak up for the majority again. But thats just the nature of people enjoying something I think - they just get on with enjoying it and dont need to say so on a place like this. But someone needs to redress the imbalance that gives a very poor impression of the success of Marty's show.


  • #1746
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Thats taking a very narrow view of a classical arts station.
    Yeah. The idea that it should play Classical music rather than MOTR schlock punctuated by bozoid babbling is quite a narrow view, isn't it?
    Almiviva came in for a lot of abuse and seem to have been driven away,
    I think that there was some problem where he/she was replying to posts as Yvonne without bothering to change usernames.
    but its great to see Yvonne had a change of heart after a hiatus and decided to speak up for the majority again.
    Evidently the majority here thinks that Marty sucks and a Classical/Arts stations should be for Classical music and the Arts rather than a digout for a failed 2FM DJ pushing the same sub-Tubridean 2FM schlock that lost something like 50K listeners on 2FM. Most of us just want to listen to Classical music in the morning. Not the babbling bozo and his make-believe talking cat and friends. Just Classical music.

    Regards...jmcc


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  • #1747
    Yvonne23R
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭Yvonne23R


    jmcc wrote: »
    Yeah. The idea that it should play Classical music rather than MOTR schlock punctuated by bozoid babbling is quite a narrow view, isn't it?

    I think that there was some problem where he/she was replying to posts as Yvonne without bothering to change usernames.

    Evidently the majority here thinks that Marty sucks and a Classical/Arts stations should be for Classical music and the Arts rather than a digout for a failed 2FM DJ pushing the same sub-Tubridean 2FM schlock that lost something like 50K listeners on 2FM. Most of us just want to listen to Classical music in the morning. Not the babbling bozo and his make-believe talking cat and friends. Just Classical music.

    Regards...jmcc

    I'm very broadminded and I know that all music is the same no matter what its provenence. I think you can get too much of the pure classical at that hoar of the morning. I don't mind light stuff like Morricone, Gabriel's Oboe, Cavatina, Alfie Bow, Strauss, the Sleepers' Wake, the Arrival of the Queen of Sheba (which Mart says is really about Linda Martin ;) - that's an RTE in-joke), and so on. You can have your Brahms in the Coffee Concert later on. (Brahms was addicted to coffee incidentally, Marty told us last year on his anniversary.) Imagine if Marty started playing Brahms's Lullaby in the morning! Nobody would get to work. :)

    No, it's all about linking you see: the different kinds of music and building an audience. You can't make bricks without straw, you know. :cool:

    I wish Liz Nolan [who is good at doing her program] would do a bit more of the funnies too. I heard her do the Muppets last week and that brought a smile to my face. "It's time to play the music," she said. "It's time to dress up right. For the Muppets tonight!"


  • #1748
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    OK, I'm going to come straight out and ask..... and take the slap if I get it.

    Can either Yvonne or SaveOurLyric convince the rest of us that you're not one and the same poster please?

    Because I'm convinced you are, and you'll be hard pushed to tell me otherwise.

    And on a different note (pun intended), can we please get past the nauseating posts about the merits of Daphne and Hugo and all those bloody stupid jokes and banter, and the rest of us posting about our undoubtedly equally nauseating (to two posters anyway) hifalutin tastes and superior knowledge?

    This thread has gone around in circles for a very long time, and as much as I've contributed to it (and I'll admit I have), I think it might be time to call a truce. If that were possible.


  • #1749
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    OK, I'm going to come straight out and ask..... and take the slap if I get it.

    Can either Yvonne or SaveOurLyric convince the rest of us that you're not one and the same poster please?

    Because I'm convinced you are, and you'll be hard pushed to tell me otherwise.

    And on a different note (pun intended), can we please get past the nauseating posts about the merits of Daphne and Hugo and all those bloody stupid jokes and banter, and the rest of us posting about our undoubtedly equally nauseating (to two posters anyway) hifalutin tastes and superior knowledge?

    This thread has gone around in circles for a very long time, and as much as I've contributed to it (and I'll admit I have), I think it might be time to call a truce. If that were possible.

    Is it so incredible that more than one person could enjoy the show ? Other fora here seem to get along without such conspiracy theories (even using langauge analysis software - what is this CSI ?!?!). If we disagree with those not happy with the MITM or Lyrics general policy, are we also to suggest that surely there can only be one person with that opinion, and so all posters with that point of view are in fact all the one person ?


  • #1750
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Is it so incredible that more than one person could enjoy the show ? Other fora here seem to get along without such conspiracy theories (even using langauge analysis software - what is this CSI ?!?!). If we disagree with those not happy with the MITM or Lyrics general policy, are we also to suggest that surely there can only be one person with that opinion, and so all posters with that point of view are in fact all the one person ?
    No to all of the above - but for two people to post in such outstandingly distinctive and similar styles (even without the fancy software it's obvious to my naked eye) is really very remarkable. And unbelievable in my book.


  • #1751
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭jmcc


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    Is it so incredible that more than one person could enjoy the show ?
    Other than Marty, perhaps his production team, his travel agent and some character called Hugo Brady Brown? You see, Marty and the rest of them are background noise - the kind of thing that most people ignore. It becomes irritating when babbling bozos think that they are more important than the music. Perhaps in the cult of RTE and its "personalities" they tell all these sad non-entities that they are famous and are "personalities". People want to listen to music on LyricFM not some sub-talkradio wibbling from people who think they are being "creative" and "clever".
    Other fora here seem to get along without such conspiracy theories (even using langauge analysis software - what is this CSI ?!?!).
    No. There is even a forum here called "Conspiracy Theories". This isn't CSI. This is the web.
    If we disagree with those not happy with the MITM or Lyrics general policy,
    Obviously you, Yvonne and closed accounts such as Almaviva, SaveOurLyricFM (who seems to have a rather similar posting style to you) and a handful of other single topic accounts seem to be promoting Martydom and his Opera tours.
    are we also to suggest that surely there can only be one person with that opinion, and so all posters with that point of view are in fact all the one person ?
    This is the web and people have digital footprints. The shills and the sockpuppet accounts tend to be quite apparent. The classic example would have been Almaviva replying to a reply to Yvonne as Yvonne but without changing to the Yvonne account. Then there is the abrupt oscillation between the "ordinary plain people of Ireland housewife" and the person au fait with a lot of broadcast industry terminology like there were two people posting. The pro-Martydom posters seem to be quite a minority here so there may be a temptation to create multiple accounts to make it seem like there are more listeners than there are in reality and more people on Boards.ie who like the MOTR and can't figure out how to retune their radios to 2FM or some other station.

    Regards...jmcc


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