Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

candy19 · 08-09-2012 8:59pm

ashblag wrote: »

does anyone on here have any experiences with zisprin? i feel really rank since the doseage was upped to 45mglast week .
nausea,aches and pains just generally feeling ****e and no energy.
I will ring nurse monday and ask but I really dont want to take it anymore.
Is this just till my body gets used to it I wonder.

Hi there,

I've been on these for almost a year now, started on 15mgs, then my gp decided to up the dose to 30mg at the end of April....that worked for about six weeks....was sleeping fantastic & was calmer....since may I am wound up & agitated to the point I had to get sleepers the other day :mad:

I suppose the main thing to take away is that meds effect everyone differently....for me they only worked short-term....I would not go off the meds until you talk to your doc first, they know best & you generally need to be weaned of any tabs etc

Best of luck

Candy

sunbeam · 08-09-2012 9:08pm

neemish wrote: »

Couldn't move on zispin. became a blob on the couch. went from my bed to the couch and back - that was it. cried all the time. Didn't want to do anything but sleep. The difference when I changed was amazing. Some meds just don't suit some people

This is actually the only antidepressant that I can tolerate-just shows how different we all are I suppose. It took a dose of 60mg to get me out of a very dark place. Lower doses are supposed to be more sedating, and the initial phase of utter zombification that I experienced when I started it faded after a couple of weeks. Still, upping the dose to 60mg has really zapped a lot of my energy.

cloud493 · 08-09-2012 10:49pm

Really really down the past few days

Headhog · 08-09-2012 11:13pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Really really down the past few days

Why what's going on with you?

cloud493 · 08-09-2012 11:28pm

Well, apart from just generally being sad, since I hate the word depression :mad: my brother came over this week, with his fiance. Not only is she pretty, she's also very nice, smart, all that. And they were all over each other.

And my mums got a nice boyfriend too, she's 50 years old for gods sake. Not that I'm not happy for her, but, you know.

And then there's just me. Still alone. Well, I have my little sister. God knows, I love her more than life itself, but, its just not the same. She tries hard, bless her little heart, but I don't expect like, that from her. She should be with people her own age, she's actually to said to me she needs to make sure I'm happy

But you know, its not the same. I'm just alone, and it is disheartening, to see everyone else I know happy. Even if they're not in relationships, they have friendship groups. And while everyone else is out having another cool saturday night, I'm sitting here watching waterloo road and drinking tea. It is disheartening.

3 weeks of no hurting now I think. Not sure if worth it.

girlonfire · 08-09-2012 11:40pm

cloud493 wrote: »

3 weeks of no hurting now I think. Not sure if worth it.

Cloud, that's amazing. You should be really proud of yourself:)

ashblag · 09-09-2012 12:07am

cloud493 wrote: »

Really really down the past few days

cloud hope your ok and safe. down and suffering too. im coming to the conclusion pumping myself with these so called anti-depressants is doing more harm than good....

ashblag · 09-09-2012 3:21am

hmm no sleep wide awake.:mad: frustrated beyond believe.
im sorry actually everytime i come on here im giving out or moaning about meself. im never one to be giving advise. im useless

Headhog · 09-09-2012 10:36am

ashblag wrote: »

hmm no sleep wide awake.:mad: frustrated beyond believe.
im sorry actually everytime i come on here im giving out or moaning about meself. im never one to be giving advise. im useless

Don't be so hard on yourself insomnia is hell. Its such a vicious cycle the more you don't sleep the more you convince yourself you won't sleep and your body gets completely out of whack

Hersheys · 09-09-2012 11:34am

Because I've moved to the other end of the county it's not really viable for me to see my own gp except in pre-arranged appointments on the weekends. So I've to see a new gp to have someone close by in case of an emergency. Not looking forward to this tbh, I find it hard to open up to people. I've a lot of health issues along with my depression & anxiety - things could change rapidly (bad asthma also) so I need someone I can trust. I'm seeing someone on Tuesday close by to work. Really don't know how to approach it. It was on the advice of my new therapist that I'm doing it.

ryaner1979 · 09-09-2012 12:05pm

Hey has anyone here ever suffered with balance problems caused by anxiety??

Gremlinertia · 09-09-2012 12:22pm

I have suffered with this - sometimes i look slightly drunk - if the stress levels are high then i tend to lean to one side or the other. After my first therapy session i had to sit on a wall for a while.

ryaner1979 · 09-09-2012 12:28pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I have suffered with this - sometimes i look slightly drunk - if the stress levels are high then i tend to lean to one side or the other. After my first therapy session i had to sit on a wall for a while.

I have it 3 months now and after numerous trips to docs, brain scans, eye tests and tablets for balance etc its still there. It gets much worse in shops and comes and goes. Its cracking me up. I never suffered with anxiety before but im thinking that it has to be anxiety causing it. Also feel pretty crap with plenty of headaches

Gremlinertia · 09-09-2012 1:12pm

Keep going the doctors, i'm sure mine is stress related as that is when it shows up, are you keeping a notebook/ symptoms diary? Very useful when you're seeing various different doctors etc. It might show some pattern that might help you get to the bottom of it..

ryaner1979 · 09-09-2012 1:31pm

No i havent been keeping a diary as i was sure it was ear infection or something causing the off balance and the docs were telling me a viral infection for the first month. Then the brain scan was all clear except for sinusitis which can cause off balance too. But now im convinced its anxiety. I even woke up grinding my teeth last week

Its destroying my once active life as i now just struggle through work and dont want to do anything else as i feel off balance and pretty crap in general

Captain Graphite · 09-09-2012 2:51pm

ashblag wrote: »

im sorry actually everytime i come on here im giving out or moaning about meself. im never one to be giving advise. im useless

I feel the same actually. I'm always willing to rant here but am never able to offer any good advice to anyone.

Woke up today feeling extremely shít. Came from nowhere. Don't wanna get up now. Make-or-break point is fast approaching and it's kinda terrifying. Things could work out but if they don't.......I really don't know.

Hersheys · 09-09-2012 8:58pm

Am a bit of a grumpster today. I had a panic attack when I was in the city today. Out of nowhere

Headhog · 09-09-2012 9:03pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Am a bit of a grumpster today. I had a panic attack when I was in the city today. Out of nowhere

I know the feeling. I just went to the supermarket and had a panic attack in the queue so I just left the shopping there I had to leave. Its an awful feeling

Seren_ · 09-09-2012 9:13pm

Having such a bad few weeks at the minute. Bad thoughts have been coming back... what's worse is I thought I'd stopped hating myself so much, but now it would seem like I'm back to square 1.

Whippersnapper · 09-09-2012 9:14pm

Hey, I'm just leaving this here. If anyone wants to get anything off their chest in a PM, please feel free. I've had a very difficult few weeks and without the kindness of strangers I would have been very stuck. So, I suffered with deep depression and currently have mild depression. I've had anxiety, panic attacks, social anxiety, phobias, you name it. I've had counselling and CBT so feel stronger but I know that I just have to focus on each moment.

candy19 · 09-09-2012 9:19pm

I'm glad I've re-found this page....I'm having a really crap time at the minute & it feels like it's never going to end, to the point that I'm falling back into a deep depression. No amount of meds or counselling seems to be helping lately

Hersheys · 09-09-2012 10:21pm

candy19 wrote: »

I'm glad I've re-found this page....I'm having a really crap time at the minute & it feels like it's never going to end, to the point that I'm falling back into a deep depression. No amount of meds or counselling seems to be helping lately

You'll get through it Candy - keep the faith

ashblag · 09-09-2012 11:05pm

id murder a drink(bottle of wine thinking bad thoughts. almost out of cigs hate night times

Hersheys · 09-09-2012 11:15pm

Stay strong Ash xx

Having bad thoughts myself. Can feel another panic attack brewing. Have meds I could take but they'd render me useless tomorrow.

Whippersnapper · 09-09-2012 11:27pm

Wave of sadness just crashed over me. I just have to go with it until it passes.

ashblag · 09-09-2012 11:35pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Stay strong Ash xx

Having bad thoughts myself. Can feel another panic attack brewing. Have meds I could take but they'd render me useless tomorrow.

trying to you too Hersheys x
very hard though just took something to try calm me down but tis gonna be another long night.

cloud493 · 09-09-2012 11:42pm

Hope your ok Ash

I'l give you a smoke if you like

Hersheys · 10-09-2012 4:07am

Christ. Just had the worst night terror in a long time. It was truly awful, still shaking from it

everytime I close my eyes I just get flashbacks. Not helping my panic state.

G-Money · 10-09-2012 12:07pm

Horrible feeling this morning. Had a follow up with the doctor after 2 weeks on cipramil. She's prescribing more but is getting blood tests done too. She said it was normal to do that for people with low mood but I immediately went pale, got cold sweats and felt like I was going to faint. It was awful, took me a good 15 mins to calm down then was depressed as I left, feeling like my life was over as they'd find something in the bloods even though she said more than once it was routine to do it.

Awful feeling

Gremlinertia · 10-09-2012 2:08pm

Feeling rather empty today - strange, at least not as agitated as i have been though still having intense dreams and such..

Hersheys · 10-09-2012 2:43pm

G-Money wrote: »

Horrible feeling this morning. Had a follow up with the doctor after 2 weeks on cipramil. She's prescribing more but is getting blood tests done too. She said it was normal to do that for people with low mood but I immediately went pale, got cold sweats and felt like I was going to faint. It was awful, took me a good 15 mins to calm down then was depressed as I left, feeling like my life was over as they'd find something in the bloods even though she said more than once it was routine to do it.

Awful feeling

Try not to worry yourself - the anxiety at the doctor could have been brought on by anxiety about the needle, I often faint when getting blood taken

Hersheys · 10-09-2012 2:43pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Feeling rather empty today - strange, at least not as agitated as i have been though still having intense dreams and such..

Intense dreams suck - have you spoken to your doctor/counsellor about them?

ashblag · 10-09-2012 2:57pm

slept from 6this morning till 10. my body feels like giving up. and to join in my colitis is acting up. closed the blinds and curtains no company for anyone today

manual_man · 10-09-2012 3:10pm

Day 5 on Valdoxan. After a couple of days my mind went into a kind of semi-paralysis, very weird, slightly scary sensation, but i suppose the feeling that the meds were doing something was kinda re-assuring. Last couple of days that feeling has gradually eased off and the old feelings of anxiety/onset of panic are back. I seem to drift between this and a state of depression/helplessness when i feel i can't handle the intense anxious feelings any more. I have a feeling my underlying feelings are directly anxiety-related, the depression just being a symptom of my body being unable to constantly live with the anxious feelings. Of course all this is hard to tell when your mind is constantly trying to stop from going under. You tend to question alot of things. But at the moment i'm starting to think i've been wrongly treated for depression for a long time when anxiety is the real problem. This would explain alot why i've continued to struggle. Of course i'm on anti-depressants at the moment... sighhhhhh. Anyway after alot of struggle i should be expecting a phonecall on Thursday, to finally get an appointment with the Psych. team at St. James, who i worked with before. I'll just have to try and stay strong until then i guess

Headhog · 10-09-2012 4:23pm

manual_man wrote: »

But at the moment i'm starting to think i've been wrongly treated for depression for a long time when anxiety is the real problem.

I would say this happens a lot. I think this is the case with me too so I asked to be taken off the antidepressants they just weren't doing anything. It can be a problem for doctors to diagnose though because anxiety often begets depression and v.v. and it can be hard to pinpoint which came first to treat the underlying cause. I spent a lot of time just thinking a lot about when my symptoms first began and came to the realisation that my anxiety/social phobia/ agorophobia etc. etc. made me depressed in the first place. Only took me 12 years to realise this!! Explain how you feel to the doctor/psychiatrist and remember you know best about why you feel the way you do. I have found psychiatrists very quick to make a diagnosis of depression without asking enough questions. I really dislike that standard list of questions they always have in front of them. They have to realise not everything is black and white like that

Snoopy1 · 10-09-2012 4:27pm

i can feel the symptoms creeping back.

manual_man · 10-09-2012 5:45pm

Headhog wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

But at the moment i'm starting to think i've been wrongly treated for depression for a long time when anxiety is the real problem.

I would say this happens a lot. I think this is the case with me too so I asked to be taken off the antidepressants they just weren't doing anything. It can be a problem for doctors to diagnose though because anxiety often begets depression and v.v. and it can be hard to pinpoint which came first to treat the underlying cause. I spent a lot of time just thinking a lot about when my symptoms first began and came to the realisation that my anxiety/social phobia/ agorophobia etc. etc. made me depressed in the first place. Only took me 12 years to realise this!! Explain how you feel to the doctor/psychiatrist and remember you know best about why you feel the way you do. I have found psychiatrists very quick to make a diagnosis of depression without asking enough questions. I really dislike that standard list of questions they always have in front of them. They have to realise not everything is black and white like that

The 'do you feel like harming yourself' question really kills me. As well as the rate your mood from 1-10 question. You'd swear some of them want to beat a dog that's already down. But alot depends on 'how' they ask the questions - i guess it's kind of a protocol that they have to follow - but what's important as a patient is that you feel they have your best interests at heart, that you feel comfortable talking with them. If you don't feel that, you're with the wrong psychiatrist.

Hersheys · 10-09-2012 5:56pm

manual_man wrote: »

The 'do you feel like harming yourself' question really kills me. As well as the rate your mood from 1-10 question. You'd swear some of them want to beat a dog that's already down. But alot depends on 'how' they ask the questions - i guess it's kind of a protocol that they have to follow - but what's important as a patient is that you feel they have your best interests at heart, that you feel comfortable talking with them. If you don't feel that, you're with the wrong psychiatrist.

That's what I'm afraid of. My GP understands my condition down to a t and understands how to manage me when I'm in a depressive/anxious episode. He never asked me the set "list of questions" - well not in a questionnaire format, it was more of a chat. Tell me more about... How does that make you feel... - there was no awkward discussions, it all just felt right. Now I've to see a new doctor, I'm worried that I'll find it difficult to open up and then won't get the treatment I need to keep me on the straight and narrow...

A lot of my depression/anxiety is centered around my physical health. It was while I was under investigation for other illnesses that my depression came to light. Obviously there are other underlying issues - past history of abuse, horrible relationship with most of my family & then just other issues... But I got really down about my physical health and everything spiralled from there.

manual_man · 10-09-2012 6:05pm

Hersheys wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

The 'do you feel like harming yourself' question really kills me. As well as the rate your mood from 1-10 question. You'd swear some of them want to beat a dog that's already down. But alot depends on 'how' they ask the questions - i guess it's kind of a protocol that they have to follow - but what's important as a patient is that you feel they have your best interests at heart, that you feel comfortable talking with them. If you don't feel that, you're with the wrong psychiatrist.

That's what I'm afraid of. My GP understands my condition down to a t and understands how to manage me when I'm in a depressive/anxious episode. He never asked me the set "list of questions" - well not in a questionnaire format, it was more of a chat. Tell me more about... How does that make you feel... - there was no awkward discussions, it all just felt right. Now I've to see a new doctor, I'm worried that I'll find it difficult to open up and then won't get the treatment I need to keep me on the straight and narrow...

A lot of my depression/anxiety is centered around my physical health. It was while I was under investigation for other illnesses that my depression came to light. Obviously there are other underlying issues - past history of abuse, horrible relationship with most of my family & then just other issues... But I got really down about my physical health and everything spiralled from there.

It's ok to be afraid. And it's ok to demand what's right from your psychiatrist. But at the same time we have to be open, which can be painful, but at the end of the day any succesful relationship requires input on both ends. It's definitely a 2-way thing. And both sides have to be committed. Best of luck with your new appointment

starviewadams · 10-09-2012 6:37pm

Seeing a new psychiatrist in the clinic tomorrow for my 3 monthly appointment.Have been feeling rotten for the last few months,absolutely hopeless,the worst that I've felt since starting on medication two/three years ago.

Thing is that I'm terrible at actualy admitting to new doctors how bad I'm feeling because I'm afraid I'll come across as an attention seeker or drama queen etc.

Was looking around online and a few sites have recommended making a short list of what your major problems have been and then taking the list to the appointment and just handing it to the doc.Just wondering if anyone has ever done that before?and if it was better then trying to describe face to face how you were feeling?

Thanks.

Gremlinertia · 10-09-2012 6:41pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Seeing a new psychiatrist in the clinic tomorrow for my 3 monthly appointment.Have been feeling rotten for the last few months,absolutely hopeless,the worst that I've felt since starting on medication two/three years ago.

Thing is that I'm terrible at actualy admitting to new doctors how bad I'm feeling because I'm afraid I'll come across as an attention seeker or drama queen etc.

Was looking around online and a few sites have recommended making a short list of what your major problems have been and then taking the list to the appointment and just handing it to the doc.Just wondering if anyone has ever done that before?and if it was better then trying to describe face to face how you were feeling?

Thanks.

I've brought lists to both gp and hospital because i get too agitated and can't speak. It's a good route to use. Worked well for me, hope this helps.

G-Money · 10-09-2012 6:48pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Try not to worry yourself - the anxiety at the doctor could have been brought on by anxiety about the needle, I often faint when getting blood taken

Thanks.

I know what you mean, I'm not normally like that when getting blood taken. But with my health anxiety, it just sent me into a complete downward spiral. Immediately assuming the worst, then the depression kicked in. Such a vicious circle.

want to disappear · 10-09-2012 6:56pm

Haven't had a good day.

Everyone I had to deal with was in a mood and seemed to want to take it out on me.

I just had to smile back, even though I felt like crying.

Felt so bad went to McD's and practically inhaled a burger.

ryaner1979 · 10-09-2012 9:27pm

Anyone here with anxiety ever get a weird sensation in the lower part of the skull at the back of the head? Still trying to find out if im suffering from anxiety after 3 months of struggling with off balance. Waiting on a call from the doc tomorrow to see what he thinks. I dont feel anxious or depressed and the off balance disappears when running

RubyXI · 10-09-2012 9:50pm

Not a god day for me. Hating my life and can see no way out.

ashblag · 10-09-2012 10:12pm

i hate this. Dont see the point in anything anymore. Have nothing to look forward to, pointless

cloud493 · 10-09-2012 10:14pm

Your gonna beat this ash, your better than it.

ashblag · 10-09-2012 10:14pm

phi3 wrote: »

Not a god day for me. Hating my life and can see no way out.

phi3 I hear you buddy we have to try x

ashblag · 10-09-2012 10:16pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Your gonna beat this ash, your better than it.

im trying,i'll keep trying im fighting x

cloud493 · 10-09-2012 10:18pm

There you go, she who dares wins

Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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