new powers

Raider190 · 06-11-2013 11:47pm #1

Now that the refresher courses have been completed we should see the additional powers been bestowed on the Reserve

3fullback · 11-11-2013 11:56am

Can anyone confirm or deny whether or not there is a GR graduation ceremony this month ?

msg11 · 11-11-2013 1:29pm

Have we got these powers yet or whats the story, also who exactly is in charge of the Reserves?

http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/D/0632/D.0632.200702220035.html

Here it says 'The Commissioner has also recently appointed a Chief Superintendent to oversee the Garda Reserve on a full-time basis.'

I mean there's no communication about any news or changes or asking for feedback ?

Yogi Bear · 11-11-2013 2:46pm

msg11 wrote: »

Have we got these powers yet or whats the story, also who exactly is in charge of the Reserves?

http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/D/0632/D.0632.200702220035.html

Here it says 'The Commissioner has also recently appointed a Chief Superintendent to oversee the Garda Reserve on a full-time basis.'

I mean there's no communication about any news or changes or asking for feedback ?

That appointment was 6 years ago!!

We all now report up the rank like anyone else.

From what i heard there is a Graduation on or around the 21st November and Shatter is hopping to anounce the new powers then.

msg11 · 11-11-2013 5:11pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

That appointment was 6 years ago!!

We all now report up the rank like anyone else.

From what i heard there is a Graduation on or around the 21st November and Shatter is hopping to anounce the new powers then.

Sound.

King Ludvig · 13-11-2013 12:30am

Yogi Bear wrote: »

That appointment was 6 years ago!!

We all now report up the rank like anyone else.

From what i heard there is a Graduation on or around the 21st November and Shatter is hopping to anounce the new powers then.

That has been cancelled and rescheduled to the second week of December, or so I'm led to believe.

Raider190 · 19-11-2013 11:29pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

That appointment was 6 years ago!!

We all now report up the rank like anyone else.

From what i heard there is a Graduation on or around the 21st November and Shatter is hopping to anounce the new powers then.

The previous super simon o connor who was in charge of the GR retired and wasn't replaced. He now works with the UN in afganistan. Don't know what the structure is now or who is managing the reserve

Yogi Bear · 04-12-2013 11:07am

King Ludvig wrote: »

That has been cancelled and rescheduled to the second week of December, or so I'm led to believe.

Any update on the Graduation and new powers??

King Ludvig · 06-12-2013 12:35am

I was talking to a student reserve yesterday, graduation is December 12th, same day ads for recruitment will be in the papers. Not sure about the new powers, could be release on the 12th also.

Scouser · 06-12-2013 12:57am

King Ludvig wrote: »

I was talking to a student reserve yesterday, graduation is December 12th, same day ads for recruitment will be in the papers. Not sure about the new powers, could be release on the 12th also.

thats the rumor - two good news stories for AGS in one day

and just before the government christmas recess

nice present for us :P

Yogi Bear · 12-12-2013 3:04pm

I understand from the Commissioner that he is planning to roll out additional powers to all your colleagues very shortly. This is a new positive development for the Garda Reserve and reflects the professionalism and service which you bring to your role.

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP13000423

Looks like we still haven't got them yet!

Raider190 · 12-12-2013 5:28pm

Looks like it won't be long now. Will be good to get some returns. For a lot of reserves it will be a great opportunity to contribute to their individual units and gain some respect from those members who still hold to the idea that the reserve was a bad idea. However it is also a huge opportunity to make mistakes so when these powers are finally granted we must all be careful of their use. Leave the egos and egerness to make an arrest aside and remember your training and the discretion that must also come into play when considering the option of effecting an arrest.

bluetop · 14-12-2013 12:55am

Raider190 wrote: »

Looks like it won't be long now. Will be good to get some returns. For a lot of reserves it will be a great opportunity to contribute to their individual units and gain some respect from those members who still hold to the idea that the reserve was a bad idea. However it is also a huge opportunity to make mistakes so when these powers are finally granted we must all be careful of their use. Leave the egos and egerness to make an arrest aside and remember your training and the discretion that must also come into play when considering the option of effecting an arrest.

Wont be long now, that is funny alright its only been ........ 14 months since the training started, and we are still at this stage wont be long now, it will be next year if even then before they will decide, and maybe if and i say if the GRA get something in return for this, still people have not upskilled so what will happen, there will be yet another upskill day and another and another, they put the cart before the horse this time and forgot to hook up the donkey. :eek:

Raider190 · 15-12-2013 6:47pm

bluetop wrote: »

Wont be long now, that is funny alright its only been ........ 14 months since the training started, and we are still at this stage wont be long now, it will be next year if even then before they will decide, and maybe if and i say if the GRA get something in return for this, still people have not upskilled so what will happen, there will be yet another upskill day and another and another, they put the cart before the horse this time and forgot to hook up the donkey. :eek:

What the g r a got to do with it. Reason we have not got them yet is a small amount of reserves didn't bother going to the up skill courses. This can't be blamed on management. They have written to those who haven't and made it clear that they cannot report for duty unless they have completed the course

Yogi Bear · 17-12-2013 2:01pm

Raider190 wrote: »

What the g r a got to do with it. Reason we have not got them yet is a small amount of reserves didn't bother going to the up skill courses. This can't be blamed on management. They have written to those who haven't and made it clear that they cannot report for duty unless they have completed the course

Thanks for that. Thats good to know.
The question would be if anyone who has not done the course can't report for duty, whats the delay in giving us the powers??

bluetop · 17-12-2013 10:22pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Thanks for that. Thats good to know.
The question would be if anyone who has not done the course can't report for duty, whats the delay in giving us the powers??

Just more excuses nothing more we have been hearing the same old stuff since the start of the year. Up-skilling courses after Up-skilling courses to try and get people to do them, simple answer if they wont comply with the requirements they should either tender their resignations or be dismissed, its not rocket science.

Canyon86 · 17-12-2013 10:52pm

Hi guys and gals,

do ye reckon that full time recruitment will stall or impact on reserve intakes into the college?

Scouser · 18-12-2013 12:01am

Canyon86 wrote: »

Hi guys and gals,

do ye reckon that full time recruitment will stall or impact on reserve intakes into the college?

the reserve force is at capacity

Raider190 · 19-12-2013 9:40pm

Canyon86 wrote: »

Hi guys and gals,

do ye reckon that full time recruitment will stall or impact on reserve intakes into the college?

It may do I am sure that if some if the age qualified reserves are not successful in the full time campaign they may rethink the contributions they are making. I hope this will not be the case as we need as many good reserves to help progress us to the next evolution of the Garda Reserve

Yogi Bear · 09-01-2014 6:04pm

Any word that we might get the powers this month?

bluetop · 09-01-2014 10:35pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Any word that we might get the powers this month?

You be lucky to see them in the next century, did you not know Ireland does things backward here, they put the cart before the horse. :rolleyes:

Raider190 · 10-01-2014 3:01am

bluetop wrote: »

You be lucky to see them in the next century, did you not know Ireland does things backward here, they put the cart before the horse. :rolleyes:

Bluetop why so negative all the time??
It is only a matter of time before the commissioner signs off on the new new powers

Yogi Bear · 10-01-2014 11:26am

Raider190 wrote: »

Bluetop why so negative all the time??
It is only a matter of time before the commissioner signs off on the new new powers

She's probably like me. Sick of waiting for them. Will it ever happen?? is it a year and a half now from when they were first announced? Lads on unit are asking me every time i come in, have we got them yet. They can't wait until we can give a dig out with the public order.

Raider190 · 10-01-2014 1:31pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

She's probably like me. Sick of waiting for them. Will it ever happen?? is it a year and a half now from when they were first announced? Lads on unit are asking me every time i come in, have we got them yet. They can't wait until we can give a dig out with the public order.

It's the same for myself the regulars want us to have these powers. It's very frustrating when your out in the car and the other crew members are doing all the work. Try to stay positive it will happen.

Scouser · 10-01-2014 5:43pm

if in 2014 new fulltime recruits with GR backgrounds were to be coupled with newly empowered GRs, the organisation would have a breath of life put back into it

it would be the change we're all waiting on

hang in there boys and girls

bluetop · 11-01-2014 2:08am

Scouser wrote: »

if in 2014 new fulltime recruits with GR backgrounds were to be coupled with newly empowered GRs, the organisation would have a breath of life put back into it

it would be the change we're all waiting on

hang in there boys and girls

Totally agree with this, that's what its going to take to get the GR any sort of recognition, other FT ex GR members that knows how to treat other GR, as they have gone thru the it themselves.

Raider190 · 11-01-2014 5:00am

Lads lets not forget we are all members who hold the rank of Garda Reserve and given that the numbers been recruited will be 300 as stated recently it would be great to think that a large proportion will be Garda reserves. It will interesting to observe the process and be reassured for those who have contributed so much of their time will be rewarded by joining full time should they reach the standards .

Hooch · 12-01-2014 2:23pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Lads lets not forget we are all members who hold the rank of Garda Reserve and given that the numbers been recruited will be 300 as stated recently it would be great to think that a large proportion will be Garda reserves. It will interesting to observe the process and be reassured for those who have contributed so much of their time will be rewarded by joining full time should they reach the standards .

Have you applied??

Raider190 · 13-01-2014 9:10pm

Hooch wrote: »

Have you applied??

Decided against it . All about the financials I would lose at least 75% in salary plus benefits and my car. Just not worth it to follow a dream.

Have you

Scouser · 13-01-2014 9:24pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Decided against it . All about the financials I would lose at least 75% in salary plus benefits and my car. Just not worth it to follow a dream.

Have you

75%?

any jobs goin in your place!?

Hooch · 13-01-2014 11:00pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Decided against it . All about the financials I would lose at least 75% in salary plus benefits and my car. Just not worth it to follow a dream.

Im sure I speak for most Gardaí on here when I say, Thank God you haven't.

Scouser · 14-01-2014 12:12am

Hooch wrote: »

Im sure I speak for most Gardaí on here when I say, Thank God you haven't.

harsh!

Raider190 · 14-01-2014 12:40pm

Scouser wrote: »

75%?

any jobs goin in your place!?

If only there was. Unfortunately my profession is quite specialised and the training takes a long time to get to a proficient level

Raider190 · 14-01-2014 12:45pm

Hooch wrote: »

Im sure I speak for most Gardaí on here when I say, Thank God you haven't.

You are a mod. I am correct in saying that and you are stating that you are a member of AGS ?????

Raider190 · 14-01-2014 1:22pm

Hooch wrote: »

Im sure I speak for most Gardaí on here when I say, Thank God you haven't.

You ask a question, I answer it and then received an insult. Did you start out with that intention. What could I have done to you that would warrant such a response from a moderater. Certainly makes me think that this is somehow personal and nothing to do with my post. I am of course open to correction on that

Hooch · 14-01-2014 3:30pm

Raider190 wrote: »

You ask a question, I answer it and then received an insult. Did you start out with that intention. What could I have done to you that would warrant such a response from a moderater. Certainly makes me think that this is somehow personal and nothing to do with my post. I am of course open to correction on that

I am a user of boards.ie who happens to be a moderator. When I post in bold, take it as a moderator instruction. When I'm posting like this I am like another poster.

You have done nothing to me, however, it is my opinion that you would not be suited to being a member of An Garda Síochána going by all your previous posts. I do not believe I in anyway insulted you. If you believe I did, feel free to report the post.

Raider190 · 15-01-2014 12:26am

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Hooch wrote: »

I am a user of boards.ie who happens to be a moderator. When I post in bold, take it as a moderator instruction. When I'm posting like this I am like another poster.

You have done nothing to me, however, it is my opinion that you would not be suited to being a member of An Garda Síochána going by all your previous posts. I do not believe I in anyway insulted you. If you believe I did, feel free to report the post.

Well I didn't know about the bold thing thanks for that.

I have reported it because you and I know it was a clear directed and conscious insult.

Coming from a family of Gardai I have some sense of who would be suitable.. From your previous posts you claim to be a member I did ask that question in my previous post but you failed to answer the question so your opinion is one of a Garda who is assigned to the traffic corp. When I was offered a place in the college it was a chief superintendent who sat on the interview board and not a Garda. so your opinion and you are entitled to have
one and express it but it is for far senior officers to make the decisions who gets accepted and who does not.

brinks_18476 · 15-01-2014 1:34am

Raider190 wrote: »

You ask a question, I answer it and then received an insult. Did you start out with that intention. What could I have done to you that would warrant such a response from a moderater. Certainly makes me think that this is somehow personal and nothing to do with my post. I am of course open to correction on that

It's only jealousy , don't mind him. Some Mules don't like to see reserves who carry Garda identification the same as them driving 2013 bmws and lexus and living in big houses especially ones they get for free from their companies. Vast majority of mules couldn't give a ****e. Evidently he is in the minority begruding category. Sad especially for a mod on here.

You didn't deserve that comment. It would only come from begrudgers imo.

(Typing this post from a five star hotel restaurant in New York which I will put on company credit card).

Raider190 · 15-01-2014 2:05am

brinks_18476 wrote: »

It's only jealousy , don't mind him. Some Mules don't like to see reserves who carry Garda identification the same as them driving 2013 bmws and lexus and living in big houses especially ones they get for free from their companies. Vast majority of mules couldn't give a ****e. Evidently he is in the minority begruding category. Sad especially for a mod on here.

You didn't deserve that comment. It would only come from begrudgers imo.

(Typing this post from a five star hotel restaurant in New York which I will put on company credit card).

Now that is spooky I do drive a Bmw 2013 5 series

Raider190 · 15-01-2014 6:50pm

Have heard a whisper that the new powers will be out within the next month , could be just another rumour but you never know. Our waiting could soon be at an end:eek:

Raider190 · 15-01-2014 6:58pm

brinks_18476 wrote: »

It's only jealousy , don't mind him. Some Mules don't like to see reserves who carry Garda identification the same as them driving 2013 bmws and lexus and living in big houses especially ones they get for free from their companies. Vast majority of mules couldn't give a ****e. Evidently he is in the minority begruding category. Sad especially for a mod on here.

You didn't deserve that comment. It would only come from begrudgers imo.

(Typing this post from a five star hotel restaurant in New York which I will put on company credit card).

Surely people can't be that petty to judge you on the basis that you earn more than them????
That angle never crossed my mind. I work with a great unit and have never heard anyone whinging and moaning about what type of car or house each other's have. Have had them to mine during the summer for barbecues and visa versa and the green eyed monster has never risen it ugly head. Have to count my blessings that I work in a station where anyone who puts in the work is appreciated

bluetop · 15-01-2014 10:47pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Have heard a whisper that the new powers will be out within the next month , could be just another rumour but you never know. Our waiting could soon be at an end:eek:

Did they say what year !

Seeing is believing :eek:

Raider190 · 15-01-2014 11:45pm

bluetop wrote: »

Did they say what year ! Seeing is believing :eek:

Won't be long now and them the reserve begins a new phase of its evolution

brinks_18476 · 16-01-2014 4:21am

Raider190 wrote: »

Surely people can't be that petty to judge you on the basis that you earn more than them????
That angle never crossed my mind. I work with a great unit and have never heard anyone whinging and moaning about what type of car or house each other's have. Have had them to mine during the summer for barbecues and visa versa and the green eyed monster has never risen it ugly head. Have to count my blessings that I work in a station where anyone who puts in the work is appreciated

He's the first I've come across tbh. Unless Im reading it wrong he has an issue with your pay grade and is linking your income requirements with your suitability for full time AGS.

Raider190 · 16-01-2014 12:50pm

brinks_18476 wrote: »

He's the first I've come across tbh. Unless Im reading it wrong he has an issue with your pay grade and is linking your income requirements with your suitability for full time AGS.

Whatever the issue is, not worth worrying about . Just thought it was sad that a mod would resort to making such comments.

Yogi Bear · 16-01-2014 4:40pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Have heard a whisper that the new powers will be out within the next month , could be just another rumour but you never know. Our waiting could soon be at an end:eek:

Thanks for the update. Hopefully light at the end of the tunnel.

Raider190 · 16-01-2014 5:46pm

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Thanks for the update. Hopefully light at the end of the tunnel.

I am sure there is and like most reserves the chance to make some worth while contribution to the work of the unit is what's keeping me going

Mc Jakester · 29-01-2014 8:06am

About time.. Years later...!
If you need to use them...

Irish Independent this morning

GARDA RESERVE

Meanwhile, it emerged yesterday that members of the Garda Reserve now have the power to issue fixed charge penalty notices and serve summonses.

It is one of a range of new measures introduced to the Reserve following an internal review carried out by Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan.

Its powers and functions have been extended to such areas as domestic violence, child protection, conflict resolution and garda policy on bullying and harassment.Reserve members have also been given powers under the Public Order Acts in relation to the seizure of vehicles and are being issued with Tetra radios when going on duty.

But Mr Shatter said yesterday it was not intended to further extend their powers.

Raider190 · 29-01-2014 4:08pm

Mc Jakester wrote: »

About time.. Years later...!
If you need to use them...

Irish Independent this morning

GARDA RESERVE

Meanwhile, it emerged yesterday that members of the Garda Reserve now have the power to issue fixed charge penalty notices and serve summonses.

It is one of a range of new measures introduced to the Reserve following an internal review carried out by Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan.

Its powers and functions have been extended to such areas as domestic violence, child protection, conflict resolution and garda policy on bullying and harassment.Reserve members have also been given powers under the Public Order Acts in relation to the seizure of vehicles and are being issued with Tetra radios when going on duty.

But Mr Shatter said yesterday it was not intended to further extend their powers.

Always good to have them just in case. Dont know where the Tetra radio bit came from . I have always had a radio when I out on patrol. Perhaps they mean a personal issue tetra.

Mc Jakester · 29-01-2014 8:16pm

Raider190 wrote: »

Always good to have them just in case. Dont know where the Tetra radio bit came from . I have always had a radio when I out on patrol. Perhaps they mean a personal issue tetra.

Powers under the Public Order Acts in relation to the seizure of vehicles?? WHAT?

1. Public order.
2. Seizure of Vehicles, Well s.41 covers that. I think the reporter is getting mixed up!

And are being issued with Tetra radios when going on duty.??
I always had one myself out of the pool radios... But it is hard chasing the sergeant around trying to get one signed out! They need to come up with a better plan, with regards to signing out radios. It's a joke!

Nice to see these powers, But!
I'll believe it!!!
When it turns up on the portal at work!

Yogi Bear · 30-01-2014 11:24am

Any one ring HQ and see if its true?

new powers

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