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Wexford GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭gmurphy70


    Big game for Wexford Sunday, strong team named, Liam og missing though. This will be a good indicator where the hurlers are this year. A win and promotion is in our sites , a loss and it's another year in 1B, which isn't the end of the world either as it's quite competitive for Wexford as maybe we not ready yet, then on the other side players need exposure to 1a to improve them as a team. Waterford look to be cruising this year also and definitely capable of moving up to 1a also so plenty to play for yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    1 MARK FANNING GLYNN BARNTOWN
    2 LIAM RYAN RAPPAREES
    3 MATTHEW O’HANLON ST JAMES
    4 CIARAN KENNY BUFFERS ALLEY
    5 PADRAIG FOLEY CROSSABEG/BALLYMURN
    6 LEE CHIN FAYTHE HARRIERS
    7 ANDREW SHORE DAVIDSTOWN COURTNACUDDY
    8 DAVID REDMOND OULART THE BALLAGH
    9 DIARMUID O’KEEFFE ST ANNES
    10 JACK GUINEY RATHNURE
    11 DAITHI WATERS ST MARTINS
    12 IAN BYRNE FERNS ST AIDANS
    13 PAUL MORRIS FERNS ST AIDANS
    14 CONOR MCDONALD NAOMH EANNA
    15 PODGE DORAN OYLEGATE/GLENBRIEN
    16 NIALL BREEN TARA ROCKS
    17 HARRY KEHOE CLOUGHBAWN
    8 TOMAS WATERS ST MARTINS
    19 EOIN CONROY NAOMH EANNA
    20 CONOR DEVITT BALLYFAD
    21 JOE KELLY SHELMALIERS
    22 EANNA MARTIN SARSFIELDS CORK
    23 WILLIE DEVEREUX ST MARTINS
    24 RICHIE KEHOE FAYTHE HARRIERS
    25
    26

    Any views on our chances for sunday

    Liam Og has being our best forward this year and will be a huge loss.

    The returning Morris and mc Donald is a plus and will address mcGoverns loss .

    a chance for Podge to prove his worth as he is no longer a novice and also a chance to see if Dathi has what it takes after a mixed bag from the last two games

    Midfield will get a real testing against one of hurlings best partnerships.

    The half back line is interesting given Shores lack of match practice and how rookie foley who has being very sound to date and how he will stand up against a quality forward in Hannon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭qwert55


    I wouldn't be surprised if Wexford sneaked this one but if they meet later in the Championship it would probably be a different story,
    I have a feeling Waterford will top the group and qualify for 1A


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    I always marveled at how Good Council get the Kilkenny Lads to play football.

    It must be one of the greatest Dual colleges in Ireland serviced by the south wexford football heartland clubs combined with the Kilkenny and Carlow hurling clubs.

    ,

    Good win for the counsel yesterday, and some impressive performances around the field. Joe Sutton, Ian Carty, Darragh Lyons to name but 3. All minor this year, so hopefully they will get some training in with the county set up before the westmeath game.

    The set up they have there is like a professional academy. 2 double sessions of PE a week, and training after school too. Often happens that the majority of panels become dual, as it helps with training numbers and times. Always have had kilkenny players on football too, and key positions too. The AI team in 99 had Keith Madagan centre back and Mick Phelan corner forward. Not too many hurlers from Carlow anymore, not as much as previously anyway.

    Good win for minor hurlers too over Dublin. Great to see them go up there and win well.

    Today will be tough in both games. A win in both would be great and it would set the hurlers up for a great shot at promotion and the footballers a chance to stay up. I think we could lose both tho, for the hurlers it wouldn't be so bad, but it'd be a disaster for footballers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    A frustrating afternoon encapsulated by Wexford's continued lack of composure in the shooting stakes and being devoid of a genuine Plan B . Wexford's best hurling occurred with quick low ball into Ogie and Morris, and it's no coincidence that as soon as Hickey was moved onto Ogie, that Limerick began to assert their authority. He totally nullified McGovern there on in, and it left Wexford trying hopeful long balls into the full forward line for the entire second half (only two of which resulting in a score). Any hurling enthusiast with even half a brain knows that Richie McCarthy is arguably the best full back in the modern game under a high ball, and he revelled in Wexford's pedestrian tactics in the second half, and was my man of the match overall. Jack Guiney continues to be the most frustrating hurler to watch in Ireland , and while fair enough he picked out a couple of nice passes that yielded dividends for us (the pass for Ogie's first in particular) such is is propensity to fire wide from silly attempts from play. It's all well and good him being consistent against the likes of Antrim and Offaly, but it's against Limerick and the other top 6 counties when it counts.

    Wexford held a four point lead entering the final ten minutes but never looked like winning so long as they persisted with that route one into Guiney and then Conor Mc. I mean, Lee Chin is regarded as one of the most athletic midfielders in the game right now, and Dee O'Keeffe has garnered praise from Wexford fans for his energy too. Why not allow them run through the middle, and spray a few short hand passes around if only to keep possession? In contrast, Limerick had no qualms about throwing it around, and only gave the ball in when there was a man open in space. Squandered far less possession and shot less wides. Definitely further down the road than Wexford.

    Personnel wise, In my own opinion I thought the two Waters' were poor. Daithi for all his honest work isn't the final piece in the jigsaw. Mossy got caught time and again, and needed Liam Ryan to bail him out a few times. Eoin Moore started very brightly but faded, and the opposite can be said of Padraig Foley. Redmond, Kehoe and O'Keeffe only played in fits and starts, and I found it odd that Dunne withdrew Morris and Byrne who were at least taking their scores (would have taken off Waters and Guiney personally).

    Overall it's the same old story with Wexford, and bearing in mind the players both teams have to come back into contention, I'd fear Wexford will be having a shorter summer than the Treaty men.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    would agree with that summary of events. Before the game, if you said we'd have lost by one and been more than competitive, you'd probably be happy enough, but given the way the game went, it was very much a chance lost. We had them beaten, and conspired to throw it away. Some really naive stuff, which is disappointing. The team is young enough, but they do need to start learning from these mistakes. Moreso Dunne though, and I am still really not convinced he can bring us back to the top level. Tactically, I thought we were poor, whether that was down to poor play, or poor tactics, it's hard to definitively say, but to me it seemed tactical.

    As for the footballers, they ground out a very important win. That is a very young and inexperienced team, and was sort of opposite to the hurlers performance in that they finished off the job when they looked gone. Its good to see Power has no issues in playing anyone if they show well, and name and reputation is not the pre requisite for playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Was very impressed with Kieran Butler yesterday in what constituted his first League start. Held the centre back position well, swept the central D whenever it was needed and kicked two crucial points. Knew when to attack and when to sit, and was probably the stand out performer for me along with Ben.

    One worry is the continued indiscipline, and Furlong seeing a straight red is a massive blow ahead of Sligo next week as he is probably the only back we have who I'd be confident of doing a sufficient man-marking job on David Kelly.

    Paddy Byrne was completely off colour today, although one thing I would have to commend David Power for is that he is not afraid to make early changes regardless. Still a bit light in the backs all the same, and it was criminal how we blew such a healthy start to go in trailing by 2-7 to 1-7 at the break, with Limerick's first goal in particular easily avoidable (their second goal was a fine bit of individual play).

    Credit to the lads for plugging away and not resorting to route one hit and hope balls when they were behind, as is the wont so often in the game, and there's literally no one else you would rely upon more to land a couple of late long-range frees than Brosnan, who showed incredible work-rate throughout, as did KOG in the first half (great goal).

    Credit too to the fans who stayed for the entirety to get the footballers over the line with their vocal support. Made proper use of the 15 euro admisson fee anyway! (unlike those fans from both counties who cut across the pitch towards the exit after the hurling and interrupted Limerick's warm up)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Fatswaldo


    What did Furlong get the line for? Obviously off the ball stuff. Nobody near me saw the incident. Most were looking down at the town end at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Fatswaldo wrote: »
    What did Furlong get the line for? Obviously off the ball stuff. Nobody near me saw the incident. Most were looking down at the town end at the time.

    I can only assume one of the umpires spotted something no one else did. Really down to the bare bones in the full back line now with Breen going off injured too. I fear all our hard work yesterday could be undone in Sligo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Wexford hurling team expected to be announced tomorrow for the laois match

    Its one of the last chances for Dunne to shake the branches of this team regarding team selection .

    After sunday there needs to be some changes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    1 NIALL BREEN
    2 LIAM RYAN
    3 TOMAS WATERS
    4 EOIN MOORE
    5 PAUDIE FOLEY
    6 MATTHEW O’HANLON
    7 ANDREW SHORE
    8 DAVID REDMOND
    9 LEE CHIN
    10 DIARMUID O’KEEFFE
    11 DAITHI WATERS
    12 IAN BYRNE
    13 LIAM OG MCGOVERN
    14 CONOR MCDONALD
    15 HARRY KEHOE
    16 MARK FANNING
    17 AIDAN NOLAN
    18 EOIN CONROY
    19 CONOR DEVITT
    20 GARRETT SINNOTT
    21 PODGE DORAN
    22 EANNA MARTIN
    23 WILLIE DEVEREUX
    24 KEVIN FOLEY
    25 RICHIE KEHOE
    26 JOE KELLY


    Morris and Guiney Injured ???!!!

    What that selection says


    More game time for mossy and Dathi to get up to pace

    Looking at the Chin midfield option for the future

    Kehoe Corner forward ???


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    1 NIALL BREEN
    2 LIAM RYAN
    3 TOMAS WATERS
    4 EOIN MOORE
    5 PAUDIE FOLEY
    6 MATTHEW O’HANLON
    7 ANDREW SHORE
    8 DAVID REDMOND
    9 LEE CHIN
    10 DIARMUID O’KEEFFE
    11 DAITHI WATERS
    12 IAN BYRNE
    13 LIAM OG MCGOVERN
    14 CONOR MCDONALD
    15 HARRY KEHOE
    16 MARK FANNING
    17 AIDAN NOLAN
    18 EOIN CONROY
    19 CONOR DEVITT
    20 GARRETT SINNOTT
    21 PODGE DORAN
    22 EANNA MARTIN
    23 WILLIE DEVEREUX
    24 KEVIN FOLEY
    25 RICHIE KEHOE
    26 JOE KELLY


    Morris and Guiney Injured ???!!!

    What that selection says


    More game time for mossy and Dathi to get up to pace

    Looking at the Chin midfield option for the future

    Kehoe Corner forward ???

    I'd imagine it'll be a 2 man inside line with Kehoe dropping back. I jusrt hope its not another dummy team and that there is a raft of changes on gameday. I really dont see the logic in that anymore, and Dunne would have to know who he wants played in this game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭HatchetMan7


    Fair play to Offaly. Its going to be some game down in Wexford park now. Exactly what both teams need a pressure game before playing teams in 1a.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    There is no form line in this league Div 1B OR 1A for that matter.

    better watch ourselves in Laois to morrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭breghall


    Huge result for us , can't believe it really, esp with the way both teams hurled in tullamore a few weeks ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    didn't beat laois yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭68deville


    didn't beat laois yet

    Just did! 5 goals not bad going...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


    FYI for match Sunday


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    68deville wrote: »
    Just did! 5 goals not bad going...

    sunday is the big one i think wexford will do it, not to many teams beat wexford at home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Wexford (HL Division 1B v Waterford)
    – Mark Fanning;
    Liam Ryan,
    Tomas Waters,
    Eoin Moore;
    Paudie Foley,
    Matthew O'Hanlon,
    Andrew Shore;
    David Redmond,
    Lee Chin;
    Diarmuid O'Keeffe,
    Daithi Waters,
    Ian Byrne;
    Harry Kehoe,
    Conor McDonald,
    Liam Og McGovern.
    Subs:
    Niall Breen,
    Eoin Conroy,
    Aidan Nolan,
    Podge Doran,
    Kevin Foley,
    Conor Devitt,
    Eanna Martin,
    Garrett Sinnot,
    Ciaran Kenny,
    Shane Tomkins,
    Jack Guiney.

    This team is the one named but rumours of three changes to it.

    Time will tell.

    No Joe Kelly


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    That was really disappointing. The worst thing was, it was never there for the taking really. We never looked likely at any stage of the game to win it. Just didnt perform at all. Poor tactically, poor on the field. A few played ok, but the most of them looked disinterested and some really poor skill executions. Doesnt bode well for the championship to have a game like this there going for us, and we fail to give a decent account of ourselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    very surprise with that poor display from wexford they look like it was a puck around they were out for, why didn't jack Guiney start ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    A couple of things we may lay to rest:

    1- The notion that we are back amongst the "elite" in hurling.

    2- the belief that Daithi Waters is a justifiable alternative at centre-forward on an inter-county hurling side.

    Both have been cruelly exposed thus far. And it's hard to pin-point where the crux of the blame lies between some questionable managerial selection calls, laughable in-game tactical adjustments and disappointing player form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭breghall


    we were very poor and tactically naive i thought.

    Why the hell couldn't we win dirty balls from the 'rucks'? waterford came out time after time with the balls, it was almost a given that when one formed waterford would come away with the ball. Are we not aggressive enough???

    I agree on the Daithi situation with the poster above, he hasn't worked out and we now need to try a plan B at centre forward be Jack, Podge, tomkins, conor Mac.....
    How many people were surprised to see both doran and byrne go off and h/time and still see Daithi on the field? Me and everyone around me were mesmerised by that call...

    The short puck outs didn't work either, and when the defender it the ball it only landed were fanning would have put the ball in the first place.

    Surely when waterford played with a spare man in defence, which completely cut off all ball in the FF line, we should have tried to work another way around this or even put another forward in there on the spare man??

    We had the wind in the 2nd half but just like the Limerick game, we couldn't use it and we out thought and fought... very disappointed today.

    It was our best chance to get out of 1B and now next year we will have limerick, KK/Clare, to try and beat to get out of it....


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    In Fairness to Dunne he had decided to source a ball winner after last years campaign and he identified Dathi as a likely option .

    At 28 he had to be given a chance to see if it would work especially against teams like Limerick and Waterford.

    Better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all.

    We have had a good few younger players come on board the last few years .

    I am not sure what is coming behind the recent U21's as all the top counties have a conveyor belt in operation.

    In their last league game Coady wheels out a jem like Kevin Kelly . We can only dream at the same level as I dream about winning the lotto.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    In Fairness to Dunne he had decided to source a ball winner after last years campaign and he identified Dathi as a likely option .

    At 28 he had to be given a chance to see if it would work especially against teams like Limerick and Waterford.

    Better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all.

    We have had a good few younger players come on board the last few years .

    I am not sure what is coming behind the recent U21's as all the top counties have a conveyor belt in operation.

    In their last league game Coady wheels out a jem like Kevin Kelly . We can only dream at the same level as I dream about winning the lotto.

    My biggest issue with bringing Daithi in is that if Dunne wants a big tall ball winner, then why have all your puck outs short or to the opposite side of him. It's a waste.

    Agree on our dearth of talent. We always have a few tidy small players coming thru, but bar Conor Mac, nothing extraordinary for the last while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭breghall


    I understand where you are coming from The Slobs, but having watched the hurlers since the walsh cups matches this year, it was obvious that some weren't going to cut it, and yet here we are a couple of months down the road and they are still persisted with, it is just mind boggling.
    These guys play loads of challenges behind closed doors so it's not like they have only played 3-4 matches to bring them up the 'level'. They were tried and tried and tried but still play....where as i'd love to see fringe players like J kelly who had a good run with the shels last year get a decent stint to see what he can offer in games like these, plus he can take a score from play which is something we seem to be missing. N Breen did little wrong against laois but yet he doesn't get a second run out?? ( fanning did well too i know)

    We have players brought in the like of the 2 foleys who are showing good promise which bodes well, and obviously liam ryan has cracking potential too.

    Also on their day we have ball winners, imo Doran,guiney,byrne,Mc Donald, tompkins can all win high ball so i don't buy into the waters offers us ball winner theory...

    What really disappointed me in the limerick/loais/waterford matches was the lack of tight marking between the h/b mid h/f lines which yielded easy scores for the opposition, it's like at times that marking your man is side thought.

    We'll go to Cork in hope , and hopefully they'll give us a good day out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    To be fair there has being more than McDonald

    Chin is top class,

    Ryan will be

    Guiney has the ability to be ( I hope he realises this and how ever great the talent, hard work is still required )


    Mc Donald is highly rated in Wexford but while he has a great hand, is very young he still has a way to go to develope other aspects of his game and as teams become wise to him he can be contained.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    breghall wrote: »
    I understand where you are coming from The Slobs, but having watched the hurlers since the walsh cups matches this year, it was obvious that some weren't going to cut it, and yet here we are a couple of months down the road and they are still persisted with, it is just mind boggling.
    These guys play loads of challenges behind closed doors so it's not like they have only played 3-4 matches to bring them up the 'level'. They were tried and tried and tried but still play....where as i'd love to see fringe players like J kelly who had a good run with the shels last year get a decent stint to see what he can offer in games like these, plus he can take a score from play which is something we seem to be missing. N Breen did little wrong against laois but yet he doesn't get a second run out?? ( fanning did well too i know)

    We have players brought in the like of the 2 foleys who are showing good promise which bodes well, and obviously liam ryan has cracking potential too.

    Also on their day we have ball winners, imo Doran,guiney,byrne,Mc Donald, tompkins can all win high ball so i don't buy into the waters offers us ball winner theory...

    What really disappointed me in the limerick/loais/waterford matches was the lack of tight marking between the h/b mid h/f lines which yielded easy scores for the opposition, it's like at times that marking your man is side thought.

    We'll go to Cork in hope , and hopefully they'll give us a good day out.


    Agree with some of what you say

    Joe Kelly yes I expected he would have got more time . very skillful and a scorer and always on the move but not a ball winner and not speedy . Did not have a great game v Laois in walsh cup and has not really figured to any great degree apart from 5 minutes v Offally.

    The three lines H/B Mid H/F
    You are correct no plan no co-operation no system between these three lines .
    Kilkenny have a simple set up for these areas and we have none.


    Not complete agreement however

    Dunne has always fancied Fanning and I can see why in that he admires the hard work he brings to his preparation.


    As regards Dathi and I say this as one who never saw anything at club level to suggest he could do a job at inter county level given his age. He would have needed to be involved as a 21 year old.

    While I don't agree with Dunne I can still understand why he has persisted as internal games are no sub for the real thing ( except in Kilkenny of course)

    The league and championship are two different things and last year Liam Ryan did not really figure in the league but was an ever present for the championship so we could very well have a bolter come campionship.

    Remember what it was like before the clare game last year.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    To be fair there has being more than McDonald

    Chin is top class,

    Ryan will be

    Guiney has the ability to be ( I hope he realises this and how ever great the talent, hard work is still required )


    Mc Donald is highly rated in Wexford but while he has a great hand, is very young he still has a way to go to develope other aspects of his game and as teams become wise to him he can be contained.

    yeah but I meant in terms of knowing stars coming up through underage. McDonald was exceptional coming up through the ranks and as a minor, and whilst I agree with there are others who are top quality, none lit up underage where we knew what was coming like McDonald did.

    Agree on Guiney. Very much flatters to deceive, and his workrate is non existent. He reminds me of a player who thinks he has made it so the effort drops significantly.

    I dont get all the over the top love for Breen either. Other forums are inundated with lads shouting that he should be in, but I havent seen anything to convince me that he is a far better option than Fanning. There is little to separate, so if Dunne is happy with Fanning, then I too see no reason to change it.

    Overall though, I think our gameplan is non existant, and our skill levels are still way off the pace. Still far too slow in playing the ball, and the technique of striking is awful with a lot of players, big wide swings instead of snappier short striking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Wexford Panel V Cork

    1 MARK FANNING
    2 LIAM RYAN
    3 MATTHEW O’HANLON
    4 EOIN CONROY
    5 DAVID REDMOND
    6 LEE CHIN
    7 EOIN MOORE
    8 ANDREW SHORE
    9 GARRETT SINNOTT
    10 JACK GUINEY
    11 DAITHI WATERS
    12 IAN BYRNE
    13 DIARMUID O’KEEFFE
    14 CONOR MCDONALD
    15 LIAM OG MCGOVERN
    16 NIALL BREEN
    17 CIARAN KENNY
    18 EANNA MARTIN
    19 HARRY KEHOE
    20 CONOR DEVITT
    21 SHANE TOMKINS
    22 PODGE DORAN
    23 RICHIE KEHOE
    24 WILLIE DEVEREUX
    25 JOE KELLY
    26 KEVIN FOLEY


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Disappointing day. One point in the second half with 18 wides v cork, and bottom and relegated in football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭68deville


    Why was Ian byrne subbed? Guiney is a show pony nothing more ...I sincerely
    Hope the chap was injured at HT cause if not not Liam dunne and co,Fitzy included haven't a goddamn clue....


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Liam Dunne on SE radio said Byrne was not and it was a change to shake things up ?

    Well if it was it clearly did not work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭68deville


    Well Dunne is clinically dead from the neck up at that rate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭68deville


    Excuses aside Dunne and co better look for a great show in Nowlan park
    He has been givin every chance ta date and the term of team in transtion,
    Developing,not a fair crack of whip are all expended now end off the BS and
    Whinging,it all in now ta play for in championship and wait for excuses,?
    Football..Leinster...lack of funds..Dublin hurling...chip on shoulder...


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Wexford are due to play Clare in a senior hurling challenge this weekend not sure of venue or date.

    Minor Hurlers will play Kilkenny in Wexford Park park 2pm saturday.with Kk manager expecting a win and that this years kk team will be strong contenders to retain its leinster and All Ireland titles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    After two rounds of Football championship its Hurling championship time starting May Bank Holiday weekend which willl see three rounds of Hurling in May



    ompetition Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee
    TOIAHGRPA Round 1 7 00 PM Taghmon St James' --- --- Clongeen Dan Crosby
    EEWJHCGRPB Round 1 8 30 PM Taghmon Gusserane-O`Rahilly's --- --- St Mary's Rosslare Jack French

    Saturday 2nd May 2015
    Competition Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee
    PSHCGRPA Round 1 2 00 PM Cushinstown Rathnure --- --- St Anne's Rathangan TBC
    PSHCGRPB Round 1 2 00 PM Oylgate Ferns St Aidans --- --- Faythe Harriers TBC
    TCFIHCGRPA Round 1 2 00 PM Monageer Askamore (Hurling) --- --- Crossabeg-Ballymurn TBC
    TOIAHGRPB Round 1 2 00 PM St. Patrick's Park St Mogue's Fethard --- --- Liam Mellows TBC
    TCFIHCGRPB Round 1 3 30 PM Monageer Naomh Éanna --- --- St Abban's Adamstown TBC
    TOIAHGRPB Round 1 3 30 PM Cushinstown Rathnure --- --- Geraldine O`Hanrahans TBC
    EEWJHCGRPB Round 1 3 30 PM Oylgate Ferns St Aidans --- --- Horeswood G.A.A.Club TBC
    EEWJHCGRPB Round 1 3 30 PM St. Patrick's Park Bannow-Ballymitty --- --- Tara Rocks TBC
    PSHCGRPA Round 1 4 30 PM Bree Glynn-Barntown --- --- Cloughbawn TBC
    PSHCGRPB Round 1 5 00 PM Bellefield Oulart-The Ballagh --- --- Shelmaliers TBC
    PSHCGRPB Round 1 6 00 PM Ferns Shamrocks GAA Club --- --- Buffers Alley TBC
    TCFIHCGRPB Round 1 6 00 PM Bree Fr O`Regans Craanford --- --- Rathgarogue-Cushinstown TBC
    TCFIHCGRPA Round 1 6 30 PM Bellefield Oulart-The Ballagh --- --- Oylegate-Glenbrien TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 7 00 PM Castleboro Cloughbawn --- --- Rathnure TBC
    TOIAHGRPB Round 1 7 30 PM Ferns Buffers Alley --- --- CLG Naomh Pádraig TBC

    Sunday 3rd May 2015
    Competition Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee
    PSHCGRPA Round 1 2 00 PM Monamolin St Martin's GAA Club --- --- Rapparees(Hurling) TBC
    TCFIHCGRPB Round 1 2 00 PM Camolin St Brigid's Blackwater --- --- HWH Bunclody/Tig Leath Slí Bun Clóidí TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 3 00 PM St. Patrick's Park Shelmaliers --- --- Taghmon-Camross TBC
    TCFIHCGRPA Round 1 3 30 PM Camolin Ballygarrett (Hurling) --- --- Duffry Rovers/Feannaire na Dubh Tíre TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 3 30 PM Monamolin Rapparees(Hurling) --- --- Naomh Éanna TBC
    TOIAHGRPA Round 1 4 30 PM St. Patrick's Park Ballyfad --- --- Marshalstown-Castledockrell TBC
    TOIAHGRPA Round 1 5 00 PM Blackwater Our Lady's Island --- --- Monageer-Boolavogue TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 6 30 PM Blackwater Monageer-Boolavogue --- --- Faythe Harriers TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 6 30 PM Oulart Oulart-The Ballagh --- --- Glynn-Barntown TBC
    EEWJHCGRPA Round 1 6 30 PM Ballymore St Fintan's --- --- HWH Bunclody/Tig Leath Slí Bun Clóidí TBC
    EEWJHACGRP Round 1 6 30 PM Pairc Charman Wygram Gaels --- --- Ballyhogue TBC
    EEWJHACGRP Round 1 6 30 PM Piercestown St Martin's GAA Club --- --- Kilmore TBC
    EEWJHACGRP Round 1 7 00 PM Monamolin Buffers Alley --- --- Davidstown Courtnacuddy GAA TBC


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Wexford Hurling Club championship about to get under way tomorrow with one game played tonight in Inter A where county senior Captain Matthew O Hanlon St James beat Clongeen 4-17 to 2--09

    Senior
    Clash of the round is the meeting of champions Shelmaliers and Oulart

    The word is oulart with a reduced number in the county squad and a huge investment money wise in their management team are very determined to regain their title and a good start to that would be to beat the champions Shelmaliers. The Shels themselves are as a group younger than Oulart but still quite experienced and will be more than able to deal with what Oulart will throw at them.

    The Martins following last years Minor and U21 success are another team who will be looking to make an impact and by all accounts are putting in a huge effort and are a club who don't lack confidence at the best of times . Dathi Waters is now a full time hurler and Mossy Waters has recovered from Injury to add to a squad full of young players.

    The above clubs are my top three and I would fancy one other from between Glynn or Ferns to Join the top four.

    Newly promoted Shamrocks will struggle to avoid relegation as their Intermediate win last year came a few years to late for this gutsy squad to make an impact at senior.



    Intermediate

    The hardest grade to forecast at the best of times

    Putting in big a effort this year are Oulart's second team on the back of their senior set up , but they will be praying that first team injurys do not eat into their playing resources will fancy themselves to reach semi finals at least under their manage Paul Dempsey.

    Another club who are experienced and have some emerging younger players are Oylegate and are a potential semi final team. with Podge Doran , Marty Kelly (Former Monageer) Jamie Reck and Minors Seamus Casey /Damien Reck .

    Askamore are another with recent senior experience and with Shane Tompkins and PJ Nolan in great form should reach the last four despite their tendency to have internal squabbling as background music.

    Another top four will come from Naomh Eanna with a strong defencive unit lead by Benny Travers , Eoin Conroy and an Attack lead by Conor Mc Donald.
    or
    Ballygarrett who are going well and have a few young players joining the experienced Redmond brothers .

    Intermediate A

    Ballyfad may have the focus on a return to senior ranks in football and if that does not damage their hurling effort they are capable of the semifinals especially given how they lost out to eventual champions Crossabeg in last years semi final at the death.

    Can beaten finalist of the last two years Monageer come again for a third time especially following a heavy final defeat . If the mental scares are not too deep they have the hurling to do so.

    Fethard disappointed last year but have the potential to make the last four with a young squad who are gathering valuable experience each year

    St James first year in Intermediate A ranks might make the last four with outside bets from Our Ladies Island or maybe Geraldines relegated from intermediate last year.

    Junior

    An emerging Taghmon team look to be favourites to win this grade .


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    I was going to give my tuppence worth on the first hurling champion matches

    But Shag it

    looking at the posts I am posting to myself

    and that they say is the first sign of madness

    and speaking of madness going to some of the matches in that weather on saturday required such a touch of - - - - - - -


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    I was going to give my tuppence worth on the first hurling champion matches

    But Shag it

    looking at the posts I am posting to myself

    and that they say is the first sign of madness

    and speaking of madness going to some of the matches in that weather on saturday required such a touch of - - - - - - -

    dont worry, it's still being read! it probably just needs a few more to start coming on board too. I didnt get to any of the senior games this week, weather was just too mental to be out in to go watch as a neutral.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Int A Hurl Round 2 6 00 PM Bellefield Rathnure --- --- Liam Mellows Paul (Jigger) Browne
    Jun Hurl Round 2 6 00 PM Taghmon Faythe Harriers --- --- Rapparees(Hurling) Lar Doyle
    Jun Hurl Round 2 6 00 PM St. Patrick's Park Shelmaliers --- --- Naomh Éanna Anthony Tobin
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 00 PM Killurin Glynn-Barntown --- --- Cloughbawn Fintan Whyte Snr
    Sen Hurl Grp B Round 2 7 30 PM Bellefield Buffers Alley --- --- Ferns St Aidans Gearoid Mc Grath
    Int Hurl Round 2 7 30 PM St. Patrick's Park HWH Bunclody/Tig Leath Slí Bun Clóidí --- --- Fr O`Regans Craanford Padraig Byrne
    Jun Hurl Round 2 7 30 PM Taghmon St Mary's Rosslare --- --- Bannow-Ballymitty Eric Molloy
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 30 PM Boolabawn Davidstown Courtnacuddy GAA --- --- Wygram Gaels Seamus Whelan

    Sunday 10th May 2015
    Competition Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee
    Jun Hurl Round 2 11 30 AM O Kennedy Park Horeswood G.A.A.Club --- --- Gusserane-O`Rahilly's John Tobin
    Inter Hurl Round 2 12 00 PM Blackwater Ballygarrett (Hurling) --- --- Crossabeg-Ballymurn Damien Donovan
    Inter A Hurl Round 2 12 00 PM St. Patrick's Park Clongeen --- --- Ballyfad Joe Kelly
    Jun Hurl Round 2 12 00 PM Pairc Charman Taghmon-Camross --- --- Monageer-Boolavogue Kevin Kehoe
    Inter A Hurl Round 2 12 30 PM Bree Geraldine O`Hanrahans --- --- Buffers Alley Aidan O Brien
    Senior Hurl Grp A Round 2 1 00 PM O Kennedy Park Rathnure --- --- Cloughbawn Sean Whelan
    Int Hurl Round 2 1 30 PM Bellefield Duffry Rovers --- --- Oulart-The Ballagh Eddie O Sullivan
    Int Hurl Round 2 1 30 PM Blackwater Oylegate-Glenbrien --- --- Askamore (Hurling) Dan Crosby
    Int A Hurl Round 2 1 30 PM Pairc Charman Monageer-Boolavogue --- --- St James' Billy Dodd
    Int A Hurl Round 2 1 30 PM St. Patrick's Park CLG Naomh Pádraig --- --- St Mogue's Fethard Bob Treacy
    Int Hurl Round 2 2 00 PM Bree Naomh Éanna --- --- Rathgarogue-Cushinstown Nicholas Kehoe
    Sen Hurl GrpB Round 2 3 00 PM Bellefield Oulart-The Ballagh --- --- Faythe Harriers John Carton
    Inter Hurl Round 2 3 00 PM Killurin St Abban's Adamstown --- --- St Brigid's Blackwater Derek Murphy
    Sen Hurl GrpA Round 2 4 30 PM Killurin St Anne's Rathangan --- --- St Martin's GAA Club Brian O Leary
    Sen Hurl GrpB Round 2 6 00 PM Oylgate Shelmaliers --- --- Shamrocks GAA Club David O Leary
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 00 PM Rathnure Rathnure --- --- St Fintan's TBC
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 00 PM Bunclody HWH Bunclody --- --- Oulart-The Ballagh Sean O Brien
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 00 PM Bree Ballyhogue --- --- St Martin's GAA Club Henry Sinnott
    Jun A Hurl Round 2 7 00 PM Kilmore Kilmore --- --- Buffers Alley Noel Whelan
    Sen Hurl Grp A Round 2 7 30 PM Oylgate Rapparees(Hurling) --- --- Glynn-Barntown Barry Redmond

    Tuesday 12th May 2015
    Competition Round Time Venue Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Referee
    Int A Hurl Round 2 7 30 PM St. Patrick's Park- Our Lady's Island --- --- Marshalstown-Castledockrell David Owens

    Senior Hurling
    After the first weeks action it is looking like the leading senior clubs will be Oulart, Shels and St Martins
    The only club looking like they will not be in contention are Shamrocks,
    I dont expect there will be much between the other eight clubs before the season ends.

    Intermediate Hurling

    The most impressive club from the first round are HWH Bunclody

    Intermediate A

    Early days yet here but strong starts from St James, Monageer, Fethard


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    Westmeath were full value for their win and well done

    They had their home work done on wexford

    By swamping the wexford halfback line and mid field using their big strong men
    to win the high ball and much more determination on the dirty ground ball

    Westmeath forwards are physically strong and the Doyle brothers might lack pace but are excellent stick men.

    The referee a Kilkenny man by the way was fussy and card happy and alot of the frees were lost on most observers and it was a miracle of the eight or so yellows issued that no one picked up a second booking.

    A disappointing result for Wexford from a group that had show potential on the way up . The most disappointed will be the players themselves.

    No great evidence of any great coaching from management on the line. and that will not come as a surprise to many in Wexford.

    A failure at leadership level in Wexford to get the right appointment for this important grade two years ago has now come to pass on the field.
    The Slobs is online now Report Post


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »

    A failure at leadership level in Wexford to get the right appointment for this important grade two years ago has now come to pass on the field

    You might expand a bit on your own thoughts on it slobs. My own opinion was that the initial appointment should never have happened, and at least letting heffo go was best done when it came about. It did lead to issues down the line alright and I thought there would have been another change this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭68deville


    V similar to the 2006 Carlow defeat, apparently we got our house in order,
    Got past players involved,etc,etc,etc, and poured time and resources into
    Underage teams and back ta square one,1985 since Leinster title in minor hurling so what now??


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭The Slobs


    bruschi wrote: »
    You might expand a bit on your own thoughts on it slobs. My own opinion was that the initial appointment should never have happened, and at least letting heffo go was best done when it came about. It did lead to issues down the line alright and I thought there would have been another change this year.

    THE Hurling Review Committee headed by Griffin had Paul Carley recommended for the position ( He was in charge of the county schools team for last two years)

    The Coiste chairperson wanted Mickey Laffan ( a case of three Glynn Men)

    The county senior chair appointed Heffo as a compromise

    Heffo was undermined (lead up the garden patch) did nothing different regarding training than the Minor football manager

    The Coiste chair then lead a second committee and appointed for two years the current manager and the rest is history


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    The Slobs wrote: »
    THE Hurling Review Committee headed by Griffin had Paul Carley recommended for the position ( He was in charge of the county schools team for last two years)

    The Coiste chairperson wanted Mickey Laffan ( a case of three Glynn Men)

    The county senior chair appointed Heffo as a compromise

    Heffo was undermined (lead up the garden patch) did nothing different regarding training than the Minor football manager

    The Coiste chair then lead a second committee and appointed for two years the current manager and the rest is history

    Your first point is factually correct. The other 4 are all incorrect in some way. Here probably isn't the place to go into the details, but can assure you of what I said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I was in patricks park last night for gorey vs shels in junior. Shels walked it they looked very strong while Gorey, after being promoted two years running looked out of their depth at this level.
    The second game was a real championship affair. Craanford made all the early running until two quick fire goals from Aidan Nolan left Bunclody up by four at half time. Craanford did well to lead by one with five left. Bunclody pulled two clear again by injury time. Padraig Byrne, who overall had an excellent game, found almost five minutes of injury time and Craanford equalised through two frees. This group looks wide open now. Work commitments prevented me getting to any other games this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 cromwells mate


    The Slobs wrote: »
    THE Hurling Review Committee headed by Griffin had Paul Carley recommended for the position ( He was in charge of the county schools team for last two years)

    The Coiste chairperson wanted Mickey Laffan ( a case of three Glynn Men)

    The county senior chair appointed Heffo as a compromise

    Heffo was undermined (lead up the garden patch) did nothing different regarding training than the Minor football manager

    The Coiste chair then lead a second committee and appointed for two years the current manager and the rest is history

    Not going to start all this again save to say that a lot of people with a lot of power decided to use that power for purposes that ultimately brought no benefit to Wexford hurling.

    The compromise candidate was dead in the water from day one and whether knowingly or unwittingly truly played the role and in the end fell down.

    The next process was essentially between two men. One got it, the other should have in a process that was flawed from the start. Again, the strings were humming with activity.

    Dysfunction was and remains at the heart of this. The CB, under current man, has done incredible work to save the county from absolute financial ruin after decades of nothing less than fools being elected for top posts. Average club men electing their fellow average club men to positions where they became like property developers. The boat is now floating financially at least.

    Add in staffing issues, poor quality club coaching standards, with some great exceptions and the county found itself turning on itself and what we saw on Saturday was the chicken coming home to roost. Now, to clarify Westmeath absolutely deserved to win. But the minor management have no clue, none whatsoever, as to how to coach, motivate, improve lads, organise or implement a system. Losing to Kilkenny, in some circles, was seen as progress and almost as a vindication but that Kilkenny team are a poor comparison to last years team- forwards are ordinary so far and they do not have a killer scorer like John Walsh as they had last year.

    Yes, things were changed, people came and people went and put in good work but and BUT: it is akin to banging your head against the ball wall of the Peters Alley when the politics and egos and machinations are the controlling influences.

    Two of the main men involved in underage hurling, including primary and secondary schools, are now coaching outside the county. Apart from flippant answers to the question when as asked, this small thing says more about the truth than anything else.

    This is no county for old men. Not chronologically old but old in ideas, attitudes, approaches. But old men rule the roost. Nods and winks and backs will most certainly be scratched.

    A model county maybe but that was years ago. One senior club hurling in the main town while there are 4/5 football clubs. Facts, facts and more facts that have all been said before.

    Well done to the Westmeath players and mentors and the clubs and the coaches who coach them in a county where football is the major player. A credit to what can be done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 billy111


    Anyone at any senior matches over weekend


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