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SIPTU shutting down the airports next week!

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  • 26-09-2012 8:48pm
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    Halloran springs
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/aer-lingus-industrial-action-to-go-ahead--siptu-568327.html

    F**KERS!! is the only word that comes to mind when I think of Jack O'Connor and his cronies. Punishing thousands upon thousands of innocent passengers who have absolutely nothing to do with this. Screwing up peoples business trips, holidays, honeymoons, visiting relatives, etc.

    This really should be illegal, hopefully the high court case on Friday will prevent it from happening.


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    #2
    mcwinning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭mcwinning


    Scummy move.


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    #3
    Mickey H
    Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Unions should be banned IMO.


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    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Read it again, rolling closures not full closing. Delays may be had, but at least you know about it days in advance.


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    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    SIPTU: GBoL


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    Sir Pompous Righteousness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sir Pompous Righteousness


    In before Nodin and K-9.


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    Halloran springs
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Halloran springs


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Read it again, rolling closures not full closing. Delays may be had, but at least you know about it days in advance.

    'Days in advance' means nothing to people like me who have booked flights 5 months ago. There's no guarantee it will only cause delays, it would most likely result in a flood of cancelled flights. Anyway they are causing a lot of stress and worry to the people who couldn't be furthest from their issue in the world.


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    starbelgrade
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    It's only the big airports that will be effected.


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    df1985
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    It really is horrible. People are going on holidays, business trips, honeymoons and the likes yes. But you also have people rushing to see sick relatives, coming home for funerals etc.

    My dad passed away in San Fran and we had to get him home. Can you imagine an air strike in that situation....


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    HeyThereDeliah
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    It's only the big airports that will be effected.

    Knock is still operating all flights, all ten that is.


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    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    Knock is still operating all flights, all ten that is.

    Ten more than Cork, Dublin & Shannon.


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    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    It's only the big airports that will be effected.

    Lucky nobody flies through big airports then


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    Boombastic
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    SIPTU Sector Organiser, Dermot O’Loughlin, said:


    “Both companies have, for many years, paid significantly low contributions into the pension fund. Now they have abandoned their responsibilities to thousands of our members by refusing to put the required extra monies into the scheme. SIPTU remains committed to any meaningful process that can bring about a fair and reasonable outcome for our members.”



    Anyone whether the company is required by law to pay their pensions?


    Strikes over rosters, pensions etc. They are never far from the news of the talk of Industrial action. I'm sick of hearing about them and their 'poor' conditions.


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    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,082 ✭✭✭✭Random


    this is a load of ****. work out some othe way to solve your dispute. dont piss the general public off because thats not gonna make us give a **** about you.


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    Mickey H
    Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Read it again, rolling closures not full closing. Delays may be had, but at least you know about it days in advance.

    Still not good enough. No closure would be better.


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    TeddyTedson
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    Don't really see what the alternative is. Negotiations are going nowhere...time for action!


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    Boombastic
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    AER LINGUS has warned it will sue trade union Siptu and its officers, officials and members for at least €2 million a day in potential losses if planned industrial action goes ahead from next week.

    In a letter sent to the union yesterday, the airline maintained the row with the union over pensions did not constitute a trade dispute.

    It argued that Siptu, in triggering the planned action, was acting outside the protections set out in industrial relations legislation


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/0926/1224324429488.html


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    Sir Pompous Righteousness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sir Pompous Righteousness


    My favourite scene from my favourite movie:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MVFoiw-dw


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    the_syco
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Anyone whether the company is required by law to pay their pensions?
    I'd find it odd if only Aer Lingus had to (by law) pay their employees pension, as no other company has to.


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    Mickey H
    Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Don't really see what the alternative is. Negotiations are going nowhere...time for action!

    That's typically because SIPTU generally couldn't agree on the colour of sh1te, let alone this issue.


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    Tombi!
    Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    I had to google for what SIPTU is.
    It's a union.
    So is it some sort of strike with the Aer Lingus lads?


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    Elessar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭Elessar


    With the DAA, the only way to get them to sit up and do something about grievances is to threaten strike. They are a horrible company to work for. Don't give a fiddlers about their staff.

    Funny that SIPTU will strike over pensions for older folk but refuse to do so over the abysmal treatment of (newer) T2 staff.

    Still, I fully support this action.


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    Toby Take a Bow
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    Random wrote: »
    this is a load of ****. work out some othe way to solve your dispute. dont piss the general public off because thats not gonna make us give a **** about you.

    The only thing that they have to negotiate with management is the threat of strike. What else do they have to 'persuade' management on the issue?


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    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Taxpayers own the DAA and are being asked by SIPTU to pay for the pensions of these workers. No, pay for your own pension in the same way as I have to pay for mine.


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    Elessar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭Elessar


    hmmm wrote: »
    Taxpayers own the DAA

    Do they now? Explain that one to me.


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    martinLintzgy
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭martinLintzgy


    I have a private pension, and work in the private sector.
    along with thousands of others, my pension is also worth less than i paid into it.
    Unfortunately, I am not in the happy position to be able to hold a gun at the head of my employer. I do not expect the taxpayer to pay my pension.
    Siptu look after their members, and screw everyone else.


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    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,250 ✭✭✭markpb


    Elessar wrote: »
    Do they now? Explain that one to me.

    How does it need explaining? DAA is a semi state company.


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    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    SIPTU along with others should be forced by the courts to disband and close shop. Unions are a load of out dated bollox and they're corrupt to the core.


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    speedboatchase
    Registered Users Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    It's simple to me - we need to ban public service unions from industrial action. Reagan was a bit of a legend for doing the same with air traffic controllers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_%281968%29


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    Slurryface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Slurryface


    Hopefully the DAA will be granted their injuction to-morrow, personally I hope the lazy feckers strike so that Aer Lingus and the DAA can sue them into liquidation.


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    #31
    Shelflife
    Registered Users Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    So they threaten industrial action, what happens now is that potential customers will instantly avoid aer lingus and go to their competitors, thus putting the company in an even worse position, by merely threatening action they hurt the company and therefore by extension themselves.

    madness in this current climate.


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