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Automatic or manual!?

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    #32
    JumpShivers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭JumpShivers


    Automatic would be best for city centre driving, where it's always stop and start.
    Manual is fine for motorways, where it's constant crusing.


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    #33
    Voodoomelon
    Registered Users Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Funny how far we've come in a way; people looked at you like you had two heads if you said you drove an automatic in Ireland ten years ago.

    It's hard to find a mid-executive car now that isn't automatic.


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    #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Automatic all the way in cars that make Automatic correctly i.e. Audi/Volkswagen/BMW which I've driven but wouldn't be rushing to put an Automatic gear system in a Smart car any time soon as can't imagine the technology being great...loads of lag etc


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    #35
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Automatic all the way in cars that make Automatic correctly i.e. Audi/Volkswagen/BMW which I've driven but wouldn't be rushing to put an Automatic gear system in a Smart car any time soon as can't imagine the technology being great...loads of lag etc

    This the thing, even Smart cars, Twingos now have dual-clutch gearboxes.


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    #36
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    Funny how far we've some in a way; people looked at you like you had two heads if you said you drove an automatic in Ireland ten years ago.

    It's hard to find a mid-executive car now that isn't automatic.

    Ive always noticed , even 7 years ago when I bought my first car (an automatic) the only people who ever scoffed at it were people who had never driven one.

    I can understand wanting a manual for something track day worthy or a classic as its less hassle maintaining them , but for your daily , especially if you do city driving , a manual is a complete waste of your time.


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    #37
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,150 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    Funny how far we've some in a way; people looked at you like you had two heads if you said you drove an automatic in Ireland ten years ago.

    It's hard to find a mid-executive car now that isn't automatic.

    Go onto carzone, the majority of Audi A6s for sale are manual. BMW 5 Series and Merc E Class are the opposite.


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    #38
    Voodoomelon
    Registered Users Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Odd, what's the reason for that do you reckon?


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    #39
    Brasso
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Brasso


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    Odd, what's the reason for that do you reckon?

    Could it be a bad rep inherited from the multitronic CVT gearbox? I presumed they had stopped using it at this stage though.


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    #40
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,150 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Probably the same reason the majority of A6s are fwd too, owners don't care about either much.

    To be fair multitronic box doesn't have a great reputation for reliability and S-tronic (DSG) only became widely available when the current model was facelifted last year afaik.


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    #41
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Voodoomelon wrote: »
    Odd, what's the reason for that do you reckon?

    a6 list price is 45 , to get an auto is 47 , the 520d is 47k the 2k in reality is nothing but yet again we're in a country where people pay 45k to avoid 200 quid in motor tax.

    Id say its purely down to it being standard, you'd have to specifically order a manual 520d , whereas the a6 is on the forecourt in manual . if they made auto a no cost option and had a bunch of them sitting on the forecourt people would change . But as it is "2 grand so i don't have to change gears, shtop your nonsense"


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    #42
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,150 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'd say it's more down to the customer. They probably think of an auto A6 in the same light as a rwd or quattro A6, majority of owners don't want or don't care about either.


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    #43
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Manual for me :) I feel in control and concentrate more when having to change gears. it's manly :P


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    #44
    Superwofy
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Superwofy


    So far nobody has mentioned that modern manual boxes are cheaper, more reliable, easier to service, rebuild and replace.

    So there, I said it.


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    #45
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Superwofy wrote: »
    So far nobody has mentioned that modern manual boxes are cheaper, more reliable, easier to service, rebuild and replace.

    So there, I said it.

    Seems this thread is full of auto drivers


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    #46
    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Ye auto driver here too. For many years actually.
    While I really like cars and engines and all that stuff driving itself was never a sport or a passion of mine. I don't need the control or whatever else the manual enthusiasts will tell you they need their manual for. My gf thinks I drive too fast (not really) but its more impatience than anything else. If i want some good clean motor fun I'll bring my enduro for a spin.


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    #47
    crabbypaddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭crabbypaddy


    While I've loved our automatics when they go wrong you can end up bending over at the dealers or rebuilders and there are very few to be found in scrapyards. Traditional automatics can be much less economical too, (some of that can be offset by the price of clutch and dual mass flywheel replacement)


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    #48
    kay 9
    Registered Users Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭kay 9


    I've switched to auto and the wife drives an auto too. Don't see myself changing tbh but I do want to get a nice Sunday car like an Evo or Smth.

    No dmf trouble with auto boxes either if they're maintained, that's an instant saving of 2-3k every 80-100kmiles. I've a 4x4 and find out much better for towing and off road. Constant traction is another advantage


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    #49
    Autosport
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    carzony wrote: »
    Manual for me :) I feel in control and concentrate more when having to change gears. it's manly :P

    And Womanly ;)


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    #50
    fancy pigeon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    I like both. I hate when they're applied in the wrong places.

    Anyone here ever drive a car with a sequential box and straight cut gears :D:D:D


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    #51
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    fancy pigeon wrote: »
    I like both. I hate when they're applied in the wrong places.

    Anyone here ever drive a car with a sequential box and straight cut gears :D:D:D

    Yes, but it had a non-standard complement of wheels and wasn't in fact a car, strictly speaking. :D


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    #52
    Summer wind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    I'm driving for 17 years and until 4 months ago I always drove a manual. I've a problem with my left knee dislocating. The Dr showed me how to put it back in myself and then after a few months I had to have to have an op where they broke my knee and tightened tendons on one side and lengthened them on the other. This made using a clutch painful on a long drive. City driving wasn't much fun either especially at traffic lights. Bought an Audi A6 with S-tronic auto a few months ago and it's been great.
    The driving experience isn't as involving as in a manual but the gear changes are flawless. Can't see myself ever going back to manual as my knee is so happy now.


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    #53
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,475 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    while autos are more comfortable for city driving etc they're also moronically stupid about picking gears, especially when cold, and for that reason alone I want to go back to manual.


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    #54
    Zoo4m8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    fancy pigeon wrote: »
    I like both. I hate when they're applied in the wrong places.

    Anyone here ever drive a car with a sequential box and straight cut gears :D:D:D

    Yeah..with straight cut and helical cut gears, but not in the same car..;)

    Love auto, I'm old and lazy..the work car/van is manual so get enough of that during the week , the 'family' car is auto and if I ever feel the need (which I don't) to do it for myself I can use the paddles, :D


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    #55
    Crumbs868
    Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭Crumbs868


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    while autos are more comfortable for city driving etc they're also moronically stupid about picking gears, especially when cold, and for that reason alone I want to go back to manual.

    As a matter of interest what car was that? If it's a modern dual clutch then sounds like something wrong with it.

    Modern dual clutch boxes are years ahead of the old tip tronic boxes


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    #56
    v240gltse
    Registered Users Posts: 642 ✭✭✭v240gltse


    auto every time particularly city driving


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    #57
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    I think that's why most taxi drivers have them. I have driven the MILs auto and it's very nippy and pleasure to drive. Would think about an auto if i ever get a new car


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    #58
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    while autos are more comfortable for city driving etc they're also moronically stupid about picking gears, especially when cold, and for that reason alone I want to go back to manual.

    Which cars are you referring to?


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    #59
    Kalel
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭Kalel


    Depends on the Auto really.. Some auto boxes are slow and jumpy while others are quick and smooth.. I'd have a good Auto box over a manual any day for everyday driving..


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    #60
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    6 speed manual with a crisp short shift. Hard to beat in my current chariot.


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    #61
    Alanstrainor
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    In an ideal world I'd have two cars, one fire breathing monster for driving fun which would be manual. And then something small/tiny for city driving, a fast smart car would do. This could be auto.


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