Motors Chat - Round 9

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 7:17pm

Autosport wrote: »

I have the V 40 and it's great on fuel, full tank I get 2 weeks driving out of it

How much mileage?

Special Circumstances · 30-08-2015 7:20pm

Autosport wrote: »

What kind of mileage do you do??

Sometimes I go the new road....
Other times I go by southern yemen... ;-)

Autosport · 30-08-2015 7:21pm

Have it 4 weeks and have just over 2500kms on it.

Crumbs868 · 30-08-2015 7:22pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'm getting married after Christmas, I have no idea what I'll do for wedding cars tbh

Surprisingly wedding cars are like wedding bands in that they book out very early!

If you want something nice but reasonable motor park do good rates on self drive(transfer your insurance over). They usually offer something like a 5series. Very reasonable to deal with

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 7:26pm

Autosport wrote: »

Have it 4 weeks and have just over 2500kms on it.

That's some good fuel economy so!

I've averaged by first fill in the Focus at about 7.6 litres / 100 km. Booting it around the place probably doesn't help :pac:

Autosport · 30-08-2015 7:33pm

Pov06 wrote: »

That's some good fuel economy so!

I've averaged by first fill in the Focus at about 7.6 litres / 100 km. Booting it around the place probably doesn't help :pac:

When I had the petrol I wouldn't get a week out of a full tank that's why I changed to diesel and I kinda get sick of the anti diesel people here

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 7:37pm

Autosport wrote: »

When I had the petrol I wouldn't get a week out of a full tank that's why I changed to diesel and I kinda get sick of the anti diesel people here

I've a 1.8 diesel but I think I need to change my driving if I want decent mileage :P

bear1 · 30-08-2015 7:42pm

I read that Volvo were claiming something like 60mpg but people were getting closer to 40.
Wouldn't put me off anyway as that's what the accord is giving me.
Boot wise it seemed smaller than the Honda.

micks_address · 30-08-2015 8:10pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As far as I'm lead to believe (and I'm open to correction, of course, as I'm most likely wrong), doing a diesel remap will give better results than a petrol engine in terms of extra torque for taking off or overtaking, and better mpg.

Its also apparently better for making the car a tad more comfortable and refined to drive in the lower gears.

How true this is, I don't know. People say better mpg but no one seems to give any thing more accurate or precise than that. So I'd presume mpg figures are barely noticeably better, but if keeping a car for a few years and racking up a fair bit of mileage, the mpg difference might not actually save you any money ultimately, but it Will make your car a happier place to be.

Again, could be a million miles off bit that's what I am lead to believe (apologies if someone has already addressed this, using the phone and haven't caught up on the whole thread yet).

For me to remap a car, though, would require an established and reputable business to do it for me, who will stand over their work and who I can feel confident did a decent job.

I wouldn't like to DIY it.

I'm toying with the idea of getting my 1.6 diesel civic remapped... Apparently they can get 156bhp up from the standard 118 bhp.. Celtic tuning in UK offering the service... What would be the main concern? I'm probably too conservative to get it done.. Car only a year old..
Cheers
Mick

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 8:14pm

micks_address wrote: »

I'm toying with the idea of getting my 1.6 diesel civic remapped... Apparently they can get 156bhp up from the standard 118 bhp.. Celtic tuning in UK offering the service... What would be the main concern? I'm probably too conservative to get it done.. Car only a year old..
Cheers
Mick

More wear on the clutch and DMF would be my main concern. These parts were designed to handle 118 bhp or whatever your stock power is and by remapping you could speed up wear drastically, especially on the DMF.

MuppetCheck · 30-08-2015 9:02pm

Also bye bye warranty if they spot it.

dr.fuzzenstein · 30-08-2015 9:26pm

Pov06 wrote: »

More wear on the clutch and DMF would be my main concern. These parts were designed to handle 118 bhp or whatever your stock power is and by remapping you could speed up wear drastically, especially on the DMF.

My guess is that most wear on the clutch is on driving off and maybe a bit changing gear. Most people who have their car remapped don't do so to win the traffic light grand prix, but to have a bit more oomph for accelerating and overtaking. So unless you leave rubber at every traffic light, I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

dr.fuzzenstein · 30-08-2015 9:30pm

Pov06 wrote: »

I've a 1.8 diesel but I think I need to change my driving if I want decent mileage :P

Something not right. I've a 1.8 TDCI Cmax (2006) and I don't drive exactly slow. I get around 48 MPG, 5.9 l/100 km.
What year is it?

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 9:30pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

My guess is that most wear on the clutch is on driving off and maybe a bit changing gear. Most people who have their car remapped don't do so to win the traffic light grand prix, but to have a bit more oomph for accelerating and overtaking. So unless you leave rubber at every traffic light, I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

Well driving sharply in general would do it.

E.g changing gear sharply and dumping the clutch (not letting the clutch pedal out slowly) and planting your foot could cause more wear due to increased power/torque output.

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Something not right. I've a 1.8 TDCI Cmax (2006) and I don't drive exactly slow. I get around 48 MPG, 5.9 l/100 km.
What year is it?

2008. I have done about 420 miles so far after a full tank refill and the fuel light is currently on.

Supergurrier · 30-08-2015 9:32pm

Shurre just drive in reverse for afew days to repair the clutch hai

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 9:35pm

Supergurrier wrote: »

Shurre just drive in reverse for afew days to repair the clutch hai

Welded diff? Fcuk that.

Welded clutch all the way. She never shtops :pac:

dr.fuzzenstein · 30-08-2015 9:36pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Well driving sharply in general would do it.

E.g changing gear sharply and dumping the clutch (not letting the clutch pedal out slowly) and planting your foot could cause more wear due to increased power/torque output.

2008.

Well, yes, it all depends on driving style. :cool:

The Focus, definitely not right. Mine had that kind of consumption at some stage. A hose going from the intercooler to the inlet manifold had burst, that's the only time I managed to use more than 7 liters per 100 km. It also had unholy smoke on acceleration and showed an engine management fault.
On the way to work I drive mostly motorway, going around 130-140 and on the way back I drive backroad and it's usually spirited driving. I have found it near impossible (and by that I mean I never managed it) to get it to use more than 6 liters and the Cmax is a heavy thing.

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 9:39pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Well, yes, it all depends on driving style. :cool:

The Focus, definitely not right. Mine had that kind of consumption at some stage. A hose going from the intercooler to the inlet manifold had burst, that's the only time I managed to use more than 7 liters per 100 km. It also had unholy smoke on acceleration and showed an engine management fault.
On the way to work I drive mostly motorway, going around 130-140 and on the way back I drive backroad and it's usually spirited driving. I have found it near impossible (and by that I mean I never managed it) to get it to use more than 6 liters and the Cmax is a heavy thing.

Yeah mine doesn't smoke at all and pulls like a train so I don't think it's a burst hose.

I will try and change the fuel filter. The only thing that's putting me off is that there is no manual priming pump and I need to buy a hand-operated vacuum pump to pull the air out of the fuel system.

Apparently people have succeeded in just filling the filter housing with diesel but at the same time there are people who had problems getting the car running again after changing the filter.

YbFocus · 30-08-2015 9:52pm

Its just the new car thing, you'll settle in after having fun for a while

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 9:53pm

YbFocus wrote: »

Its just the new car thing, you'll settle in after having fun for a while

Too Focused on making her boo and coo :pac:

dr.fuzzenstein · 30-08-2015 10:42pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Yeah mine doesn't smoke at all and pulls like a train so I don't think it's a burst hose.

I will try and change the fuel filter. The only thing that's putting me off is that there is no manual priming pump and I need to buy a hand-operated vacuum pump to pull the air out of the fuel system.

Apparently people have succeeded in just filling the filter housing with diesel but at the same time there are people who had problems getting the car running again after changing the filter.

Vacuum pump all the way. Its a hoor of a job getting it going otherwise.
Its a good investment, I always found it handy to have.

fancy pigeon · 30-08-2015 10:45pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Welded diff? Fcuk that.

Welded clutch all the way. She never shtops :pac:

I've seen some numpties welding the springs up on a pressure plate, to make a terrible attempt at a race clutch... With fun consequences!

Also, ya no nothing about coooooos and boooooooos

oh goodness the sound of the veh-icle after its jiggery pokery earlier

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 11:08pm

What are your thoughts of Wix fuel filters? They are about half the price of a MANN or MAHLE filter.

fancy pigeon · 30-08-2015 11:16pm

Pov06 wrote: »

What are your thoughts of Wix fuel filters? They are about half the price of a MANN or MAHLE filter.

No problems to report, have used them on the panzer wagons in the past without any issues

GvidoR · 30-08-2015 11:21pm

What's up with people turning on high beams before they have passed you? It seems to happen quite often and it's very annoying.

Illustration below, excuse the quality. :P

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 11:23pm

GvidoR wrote: »

What's up with people turning on high beams before they have passed you? It seems to happen quite often and it's very annoying.

Illustration below, excuse the quality. :P

Stupidity I guess. Haven't noticed it myself.

One thing worse is when you're on a back road with full beams and there's a car right behind you and they are also using full beams :mad:

GvidoR · 30-08-2015 11:25pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Stupidity I guess. Haven't noticed it myself.

One thing worse is when you're on a back road with full beams and there's a car right behind you and they are also using full beams :mad:

"Hey look, that guy in front is using high beams so I will too." :pac:

Skylinehead · 30-08-2015 11:30pm

Sure if we're talking lighting..

"Why is that guy in front of me braking, he's nearly stopped at this point"

Only then, does an indicator appear. Might as well not bother now that you're there.

CIP4 · 30-08-2015 11:31pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Yeah mine doesn't smoke at all and pulls like a train so I don't think it's a burst hose.

I will try and change the fuel filter. The only thing that's putting me off is that there is no manual priming pump and I need to buy a hand-operated vacuum pump to pull the air out of the fuel system.

Apparently people have succeeded in just filling the filter housing with diesel but at the same time there are people who had problems getting the car running again after changing the filter.

Probably no harm to through an air filter into it as well. A clean air filter works wonders runs better and improves mpg manufactures are so busy upping the intervals for them they are hardly ever changed. I think renaults interval for my Meganes air filter is 90k km where the fcuk would you be going with 90k km 30k km is more than long enough to leave it in it.

In other news I had great plans to get a really early night as I'm wrecked 5 minutes before I was going to bed got a call to go to new Ross so only back from there. One thing I noticed was some amount of cars with all blown lights on one side as well as ones with blown dips on one side. I suppose people are so use to the brightness of the summer not that that's an excuse.

Noccy_Mondy · 30-08-2015 11:33pm

Half dead after today. Poor heart was nearly gone. Anyway, today's transport, complete with the essential flag!

GvidoR · 30-08-2015 11:35pm

^^ You don't want people to see the reg plate doesn't say MO?

Pov06 · 30-08-2015 11:43pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

Sure if we're talking lighting..

"Why is that guy in front of me braking, he's nearly stopped at this point"

Only then, does an indicator appear. Might as well not bother now that you're there.

THIS. I dunno why they even bother indicating at that point. By the time they flick it on you already figure out what they will do next.

They should really indicate a few seconds before braking so you know to let off the accelerator.

Noccy_Mondy · 30-08-2015 11:50pm

GvidoR wrote:

^^ You don't want people to see the reg plate doesn't say MO?

It's not MO actually :P

Can't be having free advertisement around here, the county reg on the bus would surely give away the company! Hah

GvidoR · 30-08-2015 11:54pm

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

It's not MO actually :P

That's kinda what I said.

Noccy_Mondy · 31-08-2015 12:01am

GvidoR wrote:

That's kinda what I said.

Oh ya, sorry, misread what ya said.

fryup · 31-08-2015 9:43am

This MX 5 ad

he says "Car is like brand new" .....but whats with the final photo showing the front missing

Pov06 · 31-08-2015 10:14am

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Vacuum pump all the way. Its a hoor of a job getting it going otherwise.
Its a good investment, I always found it handy to have.

Ordered a vacuum primer pump in the end. Hopefully it goes well

Alanstrainor · 31-08-2015 10:21am

fryup wrote: »

This MX 5 ad

he says "Car is like brand new" .....but whats with the final photo showing the front missing

It's showing no crash damage to the front. The chassis is straight and no creases are visible in the crumple zone. But it is a silly picture...

fryup · 31-08-2015 10:32am

^^^^^^^^

nice example of an MX 5 all the same

fryup · 31-08-2015 10:46am

^^^^^^^^^^^^

wha?

MetzgerMeister · 31-08-2015 11:01am

Alanstrainor wrote: »

It's showing no crash damage to the front. The chassis is straight and no creases are visible in the crumple zone. But it is a silly picture...

I'd say it's an owners forum type thing. The way E46 M3 owners show the rear sub frame, MX5 owners show the front.

Alanstrainor · 31-08-2015 11:03am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I'd say it's an owners forum type thing. The way E46 M3 owners show the rear sub frame, MX5 owners show the front.

True true!

Those MX5's really go for small money. Must keep an eye out...

GvidoR · 31-08-2015 11:14am

Alanstrainor wrote: »

True true!

Those MX5's really go for small money. Must keep an eye out...

I'd prefer the 1st gen one, with pop up headlights.

Headlights go up... headlights go down...

(I know this is not MX5)

Alanstrainor · 31-08-2015 11:30am

Yeah they're lovely. But realistically finding a good one that you can insure is the problem.

Chris_Heilong · 31-08-2015 1:04pm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Yeah they're lovely. But realistically finding a good one that you can insure is the problem.

And one that is not rusted like an old barge. Since I wont be importing due to the weak euro I might look at getting an MX5 as a 2nd car. I would have that one that was posted if I was ready to buy, If it was a 1st gen then it would have to be blue, like Cian_Ryan's one.

Pov06 · 31-08-2015 1:31pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Something not right. I've a 1.8 TDCI Cmax (2006) and I don't drive exactly slow. I get around 48 MPG, 5.9 l/100 km.
What year is it?

Doh! When I calculated fuel consumption in my head I used the price I paid for the tank (55 euro) as the amount of litres used so it threw my calculations off.

Just filled up. The average is 6.8 l / 100 km with a heavy foot on mostly back road driving

R.O.R · 31-08-2015 1:38pm

bear1 wrote: »

Lads, opinions. Took a look at a 11 V70 drive diesel today. Really liked it and had lovely spec - heated front and rear seats, fantastic leather seats, sunroof etc just missing the sat nav.
Now I had absolutely no intention of another Volvo but this one really got me thinking about one.
Does anyone have one and what is their opinions on them? I read the fuel economy isn't great though.

Don't think the D3 was ever designated as a DriveE engine. It's the 5 cylinder 2.0 engine, which is pretty reliable up to 200,000km ish. It's much better to drive than the older 2.0 140ps (Ford/PSA) diesel, but still lacking a little bit. If there's a polestar upgrade available, that takes it up to 205ps and would make it much nicer to drive (as well as being a factory approved remap).

Wouldn't be concerned about the lack of Nav, as it's not a great system anyway. I'm waiting on a new E-Class coming in to replace a 2011 D3 Auto that I've driven a good few times and it's a great motor, just lacking that little bit of extra power.

dr.fuzzenstein · 31-08-2015 2:02pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Ordered a vacuum primer pump in the end. Hopefully it goes well

Let me know how you get on, maybe PM me (I promise nothing!

) if you get stuck.
The last time I did it I undid the return fuel line from the high pressure pump, (I'll post a pic when I have time), hooked up the pump, gave it a few good pumps and you could hear the fuel sloshing through the system. It does help if you fill up the filter anyway. She started after 2-3 goes. Some fuel spillage from return line possible.
If I remember correctly I once had a mid 80's diesel Escort with the granddaddy of this engine in it. When it ran out, it just started again, I have no idea why Ford decided to make it so much more difficult. An early 80's Merc I had had a manual pump which did the job. But all in all this is not a big fault in an otherwise very reliable car. Just don't run out of fuel in the middle of nowhere.

;)

It is also possible to just change the filter and noodle it back into life, but that could take half an hour and run your battery down twice. :rolleyes:

Pov06 · 31-08-2015 2:05pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Let me know how you get on, maybe PM me (I promise nothing! ) if you get stuck.
The last time I did it I undid the return fuel line from the high pressure pump, (I'll post a pic when I have time), hooked up the pump, gave it a few good pumps and you could hear the fuel sloshing through the system. It does help if you fill up the filter anyway. She started after 2-3 goes. Some fuel spillage from return line possible.
If I remember correctly I once had a mid 80's diesel Escort with the granddaddy of this engine in it. When it ran out, it just started again, I have no idea why Ford decided to make it so much more difficult. An early 80's Merc I had had a manual pump which did the job. But all in all this is not a big fault in an otherwise very reliable car. Just don't run out of fuel in the middle of nowhere. ;)

It is also possible to just change the filter and noodle it back into life, but that could take half an hour and run your battery down twice. :rolleyes:

I bought the Haynes manual for this car and it just says to disconnect the return (out) line from the fuel filter housing and pump it until clear diesel squirts out.

Should be fine with a vacuum pump. I was hoping to it without a vacuum pump but I don't want to end up having to run the battery flat and have to jump it whilst trying to get the air out

dr.fuzzenstein · 31-08-2015 2:14pm

Pov06 wrote: »

I bought the Haynes manual for this car and it just says to disconnect the return (out) line from the fuel filter housing and pump it until clear diesel squirts out.

Should be fine with a vacuum pump. I was hoping to it without a vacuum pump but I don't want to end up having to run the battery flat and have to jump it whilst trying to get the air out

Almost. I saw the guys at Ford do it, they actually undo the fuel return pipe from the high pressure pump back to the tank, not from the fuel filter. They also used an electric pump, but that's not strictly necessary.
That way fuel gets drawn through the entire system.

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