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deceit · 29-10-2014 9:55pm

Has anyone put a gtx 670 itx block and backplate on a gtx 970 card? I'm thinking of replacing my 670 with a gtx 970 and would be handy if the block I already have fits it.
I can see the block fits the pny version but not sure about the backplate.

Lu Tze · 30-10-2014 12:46pm

4K monitors just went IPS!

Genghiz Cohen · 30-10-2014 1:15pm

Lu Tze wrote: »

4K monitors just went IPS!

Finally

Genghiz Cohen · 30-10-2014 1:39pm

I've a pair of GTX670s in SLI. How much (ballpark) am I looking at to put them under water.

The temps get up to 70-80 under load and they get fairly loud. When it was just one is was lovely and quiet.

Gumbi · 30-10-2014 1:52pm

Too much. I would honestly sell the pair of then and get a 970. It would cost minimun of 100 euroes to get water cooling going (fans, radiator, tubing, pump etc.).

ED E · 30-10-2014 2:05pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I've a pair of GTX670s in SLI. How much (ballpark) am I looking at to put them under water.

The temps get up to 70-80 under load and they get fairly loud. When it was just one is was lovely and quiet.

Sounds like case temps or air flow is your issue there, maybe start with a bit more positive pressure first?

Gumbi · 30-10-2014 2:16pm

By the way, 70-80 under load is fine in terms of temps, but I understand you might find it a bit loud. Could you find a happy medium between heat and sound with a custom fan profile?

As above, no harm checking out your overall airflow situation.

ShadowHearth · 30-10-2014 3:11pm

70-80 in SLI under load ( keeping in mind that both cards scraping arses and dont get great airflow ) sounds reasonable.

Genghiz Cohen · 30-10-2014 4:12pm

Yeah, it was kinda pie-in-the-sky territory anyway.

Anyone looking for a pair of 670s?

Gbear · 31-10-2014 12:20pm

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-to-reveal-geforce-gtx-970980-with-8gb-of-memory-in-november-of-december/

Rumours about 8GB versions of the 970, 980 and a 290X with 8GB as well.

That'd be swell.

glynf · 31-10-2014 5:14pm

So 8GB of GRAM and 970/980s in SLI would be the be the best option with 4K, expensive hobby..

Any new rumours re. a 980 ti ?

rolexeagle1 · 01-11-2014 11:42am

Where would I find some of this in Dublin?

glynf · 01-11-2014 12:21pm

srumball wrote: »

Where would I find some of this in Dublin?

Radionics have similar, they're in Crumlin.

Lu Tze · 01-11-2014 4:49pm

Any body got an idea of what the Oculus Rift DK2 is going for these days second hand?

Have had mine about 6 weeks, but other than the week i got it, i havent had time play with it at all. Thats not likely to change either due to other commitments.

Nolars · 02-11-2014 1:21am

Whats the power consumption like on the 970 lads? To much for a 450 Bronze amazon psu? With a i5-3550

Ninjah Tigah · 02-11-2014 1:33am

450watt wouldn't cut it sadly.

Bare minimum for the card is 500watt.

Gumbi · 02-11-2014 1:49am

Ninjah Tigah wrote: »

450watt wouldn't cut it sadly.

Bare minimum for the card is 500watt.

Wrong, a quality 450w unit is more than enough for the card.

Ninjah Tigah · 02-11-2014 1:52am

Gumbi wrote: »

Wrong, a quality 450w unit is more than enough for the card.

Where did you get that from?

I know they sip but still, anyone have any links for that?

Edit: Sorry about that Nolars. Didn't do my research well enough. Yet another surprise by way of the 970, I knew it sipped power but wtf. Thanks for correcting me Gumbi. I'll forgo giving any such advice until I've read up enough on the topic from now on.

Serephucus · 02-11-2014 1:52am

Agreed. You'll be fine.

twinsen · 02-11-2014 3:27am

With my I 5 2500k overclocked to 4.4 and 3 hardrives, my asus 970 never go over 320 w. I have power meter, also my psu shows usage, it never went over 330.

Ninjah Tigah · 02-11-2014 3:50am

Well damn... :P

ShadowHearth · 02-11-2014 10:06am

970 is one damn sexy beast indeed. I am a bit torn on what to do. Get myself 970 and 2560x1080 monitor or get xbox one as xmas present... First world problems eh?

TerrorFirmer · 02-11-2014 11:31am

500w is enough for almost any card. I've run 7850 Crossfire and r9 290 on the same 500w psu, no problems.

One of the biggest mistakes people make when they're buying a new self build is convincing themselves they need a 750w-800w PSU. You try and tell them that it's totally unnecessary and they sort of just want to cling onto it anyway. "I just want to future proof" is what I usually hear.

Even higher end gaming setups these days are anything between 300-400w consumption.

A build like a i5 and GTX750Ti, which performs well at 1080p, is only about 190w!

Ninjah Tigah · 02-11-2014 12:00pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

970 is one damn sexy beast indeed. I am a bit torn on what to do. Get myself 970 and 2560x1080 monitor or get xbox one as xmas present... First world problems eh?

Aw man, how is that even a choice? 970 + monitor all the way... =P

Rebel Rebel · 02-11-2014 1:31pm

when is the 960 out?

Ninjah Tigah · 02-11-2014 2:10pm

Well:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-postpones-release-of-geforce-gtx-960-graphics-card/

Q1 2015 according to that.

deceit · 03-11-2014 12:11am

Does this make amd cards compelling again?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2838939/amds-flagship-radeon-r9-290x-graphics-card-prices-cut-to-an-insanely-compelling-300.html?adbid=730514623687694&adbpl=fb&adbpr=165710583501437&cmpid=social34821777
I'm not so sure. I'm loving the idea of a cool running electricity sipping gtx 970 card at the moment.

twinsen · 03-11-2014 12:20am

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

500w is enough for almost any card. I've run 7850 Crossfire and r9 290 on the same 500w psu, no problems.

One of the biggest mistakes people make when they're buying a new self build is convincing themselves they need a 750w-800w PSU. You try and tell them that it's totally unnecessary and they sort of just want to cling onto it anyway. "I just want to future proof" is what I usually hear.

Even higher end gaming setups these days are anything between 300-400w consumption.

A build like a i5 and GTX750Ti, which performs well at 1080p, is only about 190w!

In my case it was not really about future proof but noise. Especially fan noise.
The reason I bought my corsair ax860i is that as long as power usage is less than 40% the fan will not spin. So now if I will play any game psu fan won't start.
Another thing, my asus 970 STRIX fans will not spin as long as the game is not demanding, or limited to vsync. So noise of 3 fans is gone at least.
On top of this I have noctua fan on processor(overclocked to 4.4), so pc is fairly quiet. If only I could possibly make it quiter I would, but I don't think I can.
I remember back in 2001 i made a bet with my mate and I said that in 2015 computers will make no noise, couldn't be any more wrong.

Baked.noodle · 03-11-2014 12:28am

I think the PowerColor Radeon R9 290 for €257.80 with the Geizhals discount on Hardwareversand sound like good value to me. Most of the performance and cheap enough.

Gumbi · 03-11-2014 12:55am

Baked.noodle wrote: »

I think the PowerColor Radeon R9 290 for €257.80 with the Geizhals discount on Hardwareversand sound like good value to me. Most of the performance and cheap enough.

All the other models have come down in price too (as they needed, the 970 forced the price down), and that model is a cheaper aftermarket one.

I'd recommend the Trix model, or the Powercolor PCS, only a few quid more and far superior cooling.
http://geizhals.de/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-tri-x-oc-11227-00-40g-a1048411.html
http://geizhals.de/powercolor-radeon-r9-290-pcs-axr9-290-4gbd5-ppdhe-a1059569.html

Rebel Rebel · 03-11-2014 5:30pm

deceit wrote: »

Does this make amd cards compelling again?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2838939/amds-flagship-radeon-r9-290x-graphics-card-prices-cut-to-an-insanely-compelling-300.html?adbid=730514623687694&adbpl=fb&adbpr=165710583501437&cmpid=social34821777
I'm not so sure. I'm loving the idea of a cool running electricity sipping gtx 970 card at the moment.

What cpu would be good to pair with a 970 for a good economical power consumption to performance ratio?

deceit · 03-11-2014 6:16pm

Gumbi wrote: »

All the other models have come down in price too (as they needed, the 970 forced the price down), and that model is a cheaper aftermarket one.

I'd recommend the Trix model, or the Powercolor PCS, only a few quid more and far superior cooling.
http://geizhals.de/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-tri-x-oc-11227-00-40g-a1048411.html
http://geizhals.de/powercolor-radeon-r9-290-pcs-axr9-290-4gbd5-ppdhe-a1059569.html

What about 289 for the 290x
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4096MB-PowerColor-Radeon-R9-290X-TurboDuo-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_967533.html
or 239 sterling for another

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-164-PC
At these prices if I find a reference msi one I will have to pick it up as will be handy to have for future eyefinity games.
Now I just have to get a gtx 970 for my itx rig first before I can start looking how to spend more cash

Monotype · 03-11-2014 6:46pm

Rebel Rebel wrote: »

What cpu would be good to pair with a 970 for a good economical power consumption to performance ratio?

Modern CPUs will downclock themselves to save power when idle. Most Intel CPUs nowadays are pretty efficient and are all much the same basically with differences in speed, cores and graphics. There's not really a whole lot of point in going for a lower clocked one to save power since it just means that it'll take longer to do a piece of work and consume the power anyway.

Ultra low voltage CPUs can save power but are generally low speeds too, so not an ideal match for games. You could get a decent board and lower the voltage yourself with a faster CPU. Or even try overclocking with keeping to voltage as low as possible.

You wouldn't be saving very much in the long run though.

ShadowHearth · 03-11-2014 9:07pm

deceit wrote: »

Does this make amd cards compelling again?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2838939/amds-flagship-radeon-r9-290x-graphics-card-prices-cut-to-an-insanely-compelling-300.html?adbid=730514623687694&adbpl=fb&adbpr=165710583501437&cmpid=social34821777
I'm not so sure. I'm loving the idea of a cool running electricity sipping gtx 970 card at the moment.

I love the smell of price war in the morning!!! Who knows, maybe nvidia will budge as well. Then again nothing wrong with 290X.

EoinHef · 03-11-2014 11:27pm

All going well have a buyer for my 7950's tomorrow,the price drop on AMD cards and the rise on Nvidia cards has me second guessing getting a 970.

Ill probably look to crossfire/sli down the line so im feeling the 970 would be the better choice as i wont have to replace current PSU. Bit annoying the way the 970 has gone up in price though. Gigabyte G1 gaming is now €360 on HWVS and about €380 on OCUK and Scan not including delivery. There over €400 on amazon. Thats a lot higher than they were launched at which is disappointing

Headshot · 04-11-2014 12:22pm

Im thinking is there any other big games coming out between now and Christmas

Dragon age and Far Cry 4.

Anything else?

EoinHef · 04-11-2014 6:30pm

Headshot wrote: »

Im thinking is there any other big games coming out between now and Christmas

Dragon age and Far Cry 4.

Anything else?

GTA V and Elite:Dangerous are another two that ill be having a look at

McSasquatch II · 04-11-2014 7:14pm

GTA V isn't out this year though.

EoinHef · 04-11-2014 9:56pm

Oak76 wrote: »

GTA V isn't out this year though.

Yeah forgot it was delayed:(

February i think it was moved too. Was announced today that it will support 4K and will also have a first person mode. Be interesting to see how a GTA game plays in first person.

Wossack · 05-11-2014 12:49am

first person to tie in with rift support Im guessing? could be very interesting

EoinHef · 05-11-2014 1:50am

That was my first thought as well,rift support. The article i read though says its in all next gen versions of the game though which would include PS4 and Xbox 1. That makes me think it might not be just for rift support on PC but hopefully rift support is a by product of adding it to the game.

Link to the article i was reading:
www.pcgamer.com/gta-5-pc-gets-4k-support-and-first-person-mode/

Gbear · 05-11-2014 6:03pm

I had heard about the rumoured release of 8gb 290Xs but I wasn't aware they were already out..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-353-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

deceit · 05-11-2014 6:16pm

Gbear wrote: »

I had heard about the rumoured release of 8gb 290Xs but I wasn't aware they were already out..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-353-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

Too be honest unless its the same price or not much dearer its not really worth it. It only adds 1-2 fps in games so far over a standard 290x.
A gtx 970/980 would be a better deal that one of them.

Ninjah Tigah · 05-11-2014 6:21pm

The gtx 970 and 980 8gb is meant to come out this month or early next month.

Headshot · 05-11-2014 6:39pm

Gbear wrote: »

I had heard about the rumoured release of 8gb 290Xs but I wasn't aware they were already out..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-353-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

I had 2 of those bad boys. Only have one now. Regret selling the other thou

Gumbi · 05-11-2014 6:40pm

Ninjah Tigah wrote: »

The gtx 970 and 980 8gb is meant to come out this month or early next month.

I'm pretty sure those are grossly unsubstantiated rumours. They are pushed to their limits producing 4GB models as it is.

Ninjah Tigah · 05-11-2014 6:55pm

Gumbi wrote: »

I'm pretty sure those are grossly unsubstantiated rumours. They are pushed to their limits producing 4GB models as it is.

Well only time will tell, it may be just a rumour but still posting about it incase it isn't and people haven't heard about it. I'll leave it to the individuals to take from it as they please with their google searches.

EoinHef · 05-11-2014 11:43pm

Finding it hard to locate a gigabyte g1 970 at a reasonable price,anywhere that has it for circa €360 is out of stock:(

Have my heart set on the G1 because of the binning,backplate and any reviews ive seen have said it has some of the best cooling of any of the 970's. Especially the VRM's,as i going to playing at 1440p i really want the VRM's to be nice an cool.

If this keeps up i may just go with the MSI model with the new twin frozr cooler. No backplate though and VRM cooling is not as good as the G1:(

First world problems and all.....

EDIT: Anybody have feedback on mimdfactory on geizhals.de? I know a few here have used them just wondering was there any issues

challengemaster · 06-11-2014 2:23am

Not sure if this is old news or not... Zalman gone bust

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/40961/zalman-goes-bankrupt-in-an-epic-3-billion-fraud-conspiracy/index.html
http://techreport.com/news/27317/cooling-firm-zalman-has-filed-for-bankruptcy

Tij da feen · 07-11-2014 2:51pm

Hardwareversand are much more on the ball with getting deliveries out these days. Transferred the money Monday morning and my PC arrived today, great turnaround. Guess it has to do a bit with them using UPS as well so that it's not sitting in Portlaoise for a day.

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