The Voice Of Ireland

Elmo · 03-05-2012 4:54pm

I have high cultural standards.

Well your not going to get them on a TV talent show. :rolleyes:

Well then don't watch these types of shows, they will just cause you mental anguish. There is plenty of mediocrity in the music world.

unreggd · 04-05-2012 12:55am

People forget that before anything about musical standards or artistry, its a family entertainment TV SHOW done to make money

I don't think the mode of transport to a career matters, its what the person does for themselves

dublinman1990 · 06-05-2012 9:11pm

Kian and Jim were sore losers after coming up in preparation for the final IMO. It would be more easier for people in the North to enter the UK version to have their single on iTunes there. For Jim's download not to have gone through is deeply regrettable on RTE's part not to address it.

One does ask though about the iTunes downloads; How do RTE make up a contract with iTunes Ireland to put the singles and then get some money off them? As Pat having a recording contract now under his belt; he should be able to make some money out of all the downloads he amassed in the days leading up to the final.

Also; Would the BBC do something similar in the future at some point after they have their final? It seems unlikely to do that IMO as the voting numbers will be much higher over there in the UK.

LizT · 06-05-2012 9:33pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Kian and Jim were sore losers after coming up in preparation for the final IMO. It would be more easier for people in the North to enter the UK version to have their single on iTunes there. For Jim's download not to have gone through is deeply regrettable on RTE's part not to address it.

One does ask though about the iTunes downloads; How do RTE make up a contract with iTunes Ireland to put the singles and then get some money off them? As Pat having a recording contract now under his belt; he should be able to make some money out of all the downloads he amassed in the days leading up to the final.

Also; Would the BBC do something similar in the future at some point after they have their final? It seems unlikely to do that IMO as the voting numbers will be much higher over there in the UK.

Maybe they came off that way in the lead up but I actually felt they were very graceful in defeat.

eternal · 07-05-2012 2:50am

I think when he said 'sore losers' he means they did not have it fair and I agree, I liked Jim.
Anyone else think that Pat came across as a moron othe Late Late? I like him and all but he just acted like a fool. Richie was much more articulate. I mean you need to put on a kind of act on these shows, you do not go on about shifting and teenage drivel.
Then watching Terry Prattchet who had such an extensive vocabulary. Pat did say he was in Maynooth so he is educated. Acting the gom on national tv is not agreeable in my view.

eternal · 07-05-2012 2:51am

I think when he said 'sore losers' he means they did not have it fair and I agree, I liked Jim.
Anyone else think that Pat came across as a moron othe Late Late? I like him and all but he just acted like a fool. Richie was much more articulate. I mean you need to put on a kind of act on these shows, you do not go on about shifting and teenage drivel.
Then watching Terry Prattchet who had such an extensive vocabulary. Pat did say he was in Maynooth so he is educated. Acting the gom on national tv is not agreeable in my view.

Galwayguy35 · 07-05-2012 3:22am

Does anyone who wins these shows go on to have any real success? There have been various shows over the years and the winners have all but disappeared. Lucinda Evans won one of them a few years ago and got nowhere despite having a great voice, 10 times more talent than the guy who won this show IMO.

eternal · 07-05-2012 4:47am

To be fair I agree with thw sentiment of the question. It seems these tv shows ate generated without the ideal of the individual being acknowledged. The winner flies hifh on a three second wave of achievement and then the general persona of reality tv kicks in and sees them adrift and barren.
Tis a stramge old rock n roll world.

Elmo · 07-05-2012 11:26am

Lucinda Evans has been knocking about since You're a Star every now and then you hear about her on the radio.

Galwayguy35 · 07-05-2012 11:45am

Elmo wrote: »

Lucinda Evans has been knocking about since You're a Star every now and then you hear about her on the radio.

Yeah she had an ad on the Galway Advertiser giving singing lessons. Hardly the success she hoped for. The point I am making is that very few of the people who win Irish talant shows have real success compared with Britain. And even over there has anyone heard of Little Mix since they won X Factor?

Elmo · 07-05-2012 12:05pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah she had an ad on the Galway Advertiser giving singing lessons. Hardly the success she hoped for. The point I am making is that very few of the people who win Irish talant shows have real success compared with Britain. And even over there has anyone heard of Little Mix since they won X Factor?

I would give Little Mix a chances.

We don't get behind our acts at all (regardless of talent). We continue to have an inferiority complex, Irish Radio stations just won't play Irish acts, this is not just from Talent competitions but in general.

couch_dweller · 07-05-2012 12:33pm

Elmo wrote: »

I would give Little Mix a chances.

We don't get behind our acts at all (regardless of talent). We continue to have an inferiority complex, Irish Radio stations just won't play Irish acts, this is not just from Talent competitions but in general.

no , its just that the ( talent ) which appeared on irish tv singing competitions was of a pretty mediocre variety

as for the uk shows , they are more contrived than you can imagine , most of the acts who reach the live shows on X factor were known in some shape or form by the industry prior to thier appearance , which is why a huge number of incredibly talented singers never even get near round one on tv , they are rejected at the unrecorded audtions

Elmo · 07-05-2012 3:28pm

couch_dweller wrote: »

no , its just that the ( talent ) which appeared on irish tv singing competitions was of a pretty mediocre variety

Even if you take this as the reason, Radio and TV do not talk up the Irish Talent shows as much as they do Britain's Got Talent or The X-Factor. Irish media (including RTÉ) tend to completely flood the market with English Talent shows.

Ryan O'Shaughnessy will get more time from BGT in the Irish media then he did for The Voice of Ireland.

I will take one other example from TG4. And this feeds in to the previous diatribe by another poster about Country and Western Music. Glor Tíre gets 100,000 viewers each week on TG4. A fairly minority music talent contest on a minority channel, however you would think that country music radio stations and radio programmes would support such a competition for The Country Voice (Glor Tíre). They don't.

DeepBlue · 07-05-2012 3:51pm

Elmo wrote: »

Irish media (including RTÉ) tend to completely flood the market with English Talent shows.

The Late Late Show and The Saturday Night Show seem to always have someone on from these UK "talent" shows. If you don't follow them (and read about them in the tabloids) you've no idea who they are and yet they act as though we should all be completely familiar with them and their private lives. :rolleyes:
I've never understood why RTE feel the need to promote these people. I guess they have their own inferiority complex and have to pander to it.

flyswatter · 07-05-2012 4:36pm

The same as X Factor, these arent about music just entertainment shows. If you want a music show watch Jools or something similar.

Ash.J.Williams · 11-05-2012 4:06pm

Hilarious...yer man from the voice getting booted off and now he's in the final of BGT singing his own material....I thought the voice was supposed to be the the show with credibility!!

A Joke!

JP Liz V1 · 11-05-2012 4:45pm

Elmo wrote: »

I would give Little Mix a chances.

We don't get behind our acts at all (regardless of talent). We continue to have an inferiority complex, Irish Radio stations just won't play Irish acts, this is not just from Talent competitions but in general.

Simon Cowell backs the winner from BGT and Fix Factor and he has loads of cash to put into launching the winner's career whereas in the Irish talent shows there isnt a head honcho or mega cash there to help launch them so while they do relevantly well in Ireland they dont succeed internationally and Bressie isnt know internationally also so he cant help Pat

I am surprised Ryan O'Shaughnessy go on the TVOI as he didnt have a great voice himself he is doing well on BGT but he is quite a talented song writer

I say Sexy Pat needs to get a sex tape linked

Galwayguy35 · 12-05-2012 4:57am

I was thinking back on the various talent shows that have been on and I can't think of anyone who had real success through any of them.
If a person wants to be successful them it makes sense to go on a show across the pond which will lets face it give them a better deal.
Although sometimes people themselves can make the wrong decisions. Nadine Coyle has more singing talent then Cheryl Cole could ever hope for but didn't have the same success.

JP Liz V1 · 08-11-2012 10:09pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsZqp1__y-E

Not too bad imho

Skid · 08-11-2012 10:24pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsZqp1__y-E

Not too bad imho

I walked past Pat in the street yesterday and I kept staring at him thinking 'I know him from somewhere', thinking he would remember me

Decent enough song, I haven't seen it get much coverage on RTE since its release, surprisingly.

not yet · 09-11-2012 10:40am

I had a jam with him about 2 months ago in mullingar, He is such a nice decent guy. Wish him the best with his career.

Elmo · 13-11-2012 12:32am

Skid wrote: »

Decent enough song, I haven't seen it get much coverage on RTE since its release, surprisingly.

Not really Irish Radio does general support Irish singers/bands, except on a few occasion when the over play a song e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AdaZoWW6uc

Skid · 13-11-2012 12:41am

Elmo wrote: »

Not really Irish Radio does general support Irish singers/bands, except on a few occasion when the over play a song

True, but when they have announced another series of The Voice of Ireland, you would think RTE would be trying hard to promote last year's winner.

That's what any other Broadcaster would do, but God knows what goes on in RTE.

Skid · 16-11-2012 2:10pm

Pat Byrne's debut Album 'All or Nothing' is released today

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2012/1112/byrnep.html

And he will be performing on The Late Late Show tonight.

Ash.J.Williams · 19-03-2013 12:59pm

Never watched such vacuous, self serving television in my life. I laugh recalling the launch last year when the judges were describing it as being "about the music man" and "not about the judges", a clear reference to Xfactor. The truth is it's even worse then xfactor. The "music business" is not making cash from real bands anymore so they are actually pushing this crap out to the ignorant masses, who can't tell the difference. The sad thing is they are actually succeeding. The media are treating 1d like the new rolling stones, yet they haven't written a note between them.

Mr E · 19-03-2013 1:03pm

Last years thread. Please post again to this years one.

The Voice Of Ireland

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