Ireland u20 6 Nations & World Cup 2012

ormond lad · 17-10-2011 6:02pm #1

I saw on twitter that the irish u20 team are having trial sessions this week to help decide a squad for the 2012 6 nations and junior world cup.
http://twitter.com/#!/Galwegians_RFC
Best of luck to Wegians U20s Paul Griffen, Tadhg Leader and Calum O'Connell who are attending Ireland U20s trials this week

Will munster have many players near the irish squad this season? Will their representation be higher than last season when it was quite poor?

Connacht should have the most in the squad after winning all 3 of their games this season.

profitius · 17-10-2011 6:44pm

ormond lad wrote: »

Will munster have many players near the irish squad this season? Will their representation be higher than last season when it was quite poor?

It might come down to the performances of the players during the interpros. It could be even between all the provinces although you'd expect Leinster to have the most again.

profitius · 27-10-2011 7:49pm

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/24559.php

Now that the U19 and U18 youth and club squads have been announced, any word on the U20s?

ormond lad · 01-11-2011 11:41pm

Any word on when 20s squad will be announced?

ormond lad · 07-11-2011 7:36pm

ormond lad wrote: »

Any word on when 20s squad will be announced?

Any update on a squad being picked???

ormond lad · 26-11-2011 3:15am

Any word on a squad being announced???
U18 squads been announced for several weeks now and nothing on the 20s...

ff9999 · 26-11-2011 3:29am

ormond lad wrote: »

Any word on when 20s squad will be announced?

ormond lad wrote: »

Any update on a squad being picked???

ormond lad wrote: »

Any word on a squad being announced???
U18 squads been announced for several weeks now and nothing on the 20s...

Eager Beaver

porterbelly · 26-11-2011 11:14am

There were 10 Connacht trialists afaik

This may or may not have included the lads who were at the world cup last year who are under again this year, Aaron Conneely, Danny Qualter, Kieran Marmion

Hagz · 26-11-2011 1:29pm

ormond lad wrote: »

Any word on a squad being announced???
U18 squads been announced for several weeks now and nothing on the 20s...

Who's on the u-18 squad.

ormond lad · 26-11-2011 2:11pm

Hagz wrote: »

Who's on the u-18 squad.

Theres been 2 squads with some players added for the 2nd one as the exiles didnt come to ireland for the 2nd one and played a game v the welsh exiles in england

Ireland U-18 Clubs Training Squad
Caolin Blade (Monivea)
Russell Blair (Ballymoney)
Adam Byrne (Naas)
Ben Carty (Buccaneers)
Fergal Cleary (Navan)
Brian Cunningham (Navan)
Graeme Currie (Portadown)
Peter Dooley (Birr)
Adrian Enright (Abbeyfeale)
Scott Flannagan (Buccaneers)
Jonathan Hayes (Nenagh Ormond)
Seamus Keating (Dungarvan)
Stephen Keelan (Navan)
John Madigan (Charleville)
Leon Martin (Tullamore)
Sean Moran (Kilkenny)
Paul O'Donnell (Galwegians)
Jack O'Donohue (Waterpark)
Killian O'Keeffee (Crosshaven)
Josh O'Rourke (DLSP)
Reuben Pepperhobbs (Wesport)
Conor Simpson (Coleraine)
Killian Sweeney (Malahide)
Jacob Walsh (Ballinasloe)
Jim White (Enniscorthy)

Ireland Under-18 Clubs Squad
Cillian Ansbro - Youghal
Joe Bercis - Exiles
Caolin Blade - Monivea
Russell Blair - Ballymoney
Adam Byrne - Naas
Cian Byrne - Tullamore
Fergal Cleary - Navan
Darren Coady - Waterpark
Luke Connolly - Exiles
Brian Cunningham - Navan
Stephen Dalton - Exiles
James Deehan - Exiles
Adam Doherty - Banbridge
Peter Dooley - Birr
Eddie Earls - Gorey
Adrian Enright - Abbeyfeale
Mark Healy - Kanturk
Nathan Higgins - Exiles
Seamus Keating - Dungarvan
Stephen Keelan - Navan
Adam King - Exiles
John Madigan - Charleville
Kalani Moore - Waterpark
Paul O'Donnell - Galwegians
Jack O'Donoghue - Waterpark
Killian O'Keeffe - Crosshaven
Niall O'Neill - Waterpark
Josh O'Rourke - De La Salle Palmerston
James O'Sullivan - Exiles
Conor Simpson - Coleraine
Killian Sweeney - Malahide
Francis Taggart - Exiles
Tom Hilton-Stevens - Exiles
Jacob Walsh - Ballinasloe
Alex Webb - Exiles
Jim White - Enniscorthy

ormond lad · 28-11-2011 1:54pm

London Wasps to host England U20s

London Wasps will host the final England U20s Six Nations fixture in 2012 at Adams Park, where the home side will play Ireland on Friday, March 16th.

London Wasps CEO Chris Thomas said: “We are delighted to bring international rugby to Adams Park. A number of the best young players at London Wasps have come through the England side in recent seasons and are now starring in our first team. We have four players currently involved in the England U20s for next season and we hope we’ll see them in action for their country on their home ground next March.”
England, the reigning Six Nations champions, play two home games in next year’s tournament.
London Wasps centre Elliot Daly is one of four players at the club who will be hoping to represent England at Adams Park with Alec Hepburn, Billy Vunipola and Nathan Morris also currently in the national U20s squad.
Daly was involved in last year’s Grand Slam winning squad and helped the side reach the final of the Junior World Championship.
He said: “It is great for me to have a chance to play a game for the England U20s at Adams Park. I have had a bit of first team game time this year, but playing out on that pitch is something I have always aspired to when coming through the ranks at Wasps. To bring my club and international games together with a U20s game at Adams Park, if I am picked, will be a great experience for me. If we do as well as we did last year, it could be the setting for a memorable night.”
Tickets are now on sale for the game through the Adams Park ticket office. Tickets are offered at a discounted price for all London Wasps Platinum Members.
There are also some fantastic discounted hospitality options available for this game.
To book a place call the London Wasps ticket hotline on 0844 225 2990 or by booking online here.

SeatingPlatinum Member SeatingStandingPlatinum Member StandingAdults£15£10£10£7OAPs£10£7£7£5Juniors£7£5£5£

http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/wasps32744.ink

ormond lad · 12-12-2011 4:52pm

Pools Announced For 2012 Junior World Championship

12 December 2011, 2:03 pm
By Editor

The Ireland Under-20s have been drawn in a pool with hosts South Africa and Six Nations rivals England and Italy for the 2012 IRB Junior World Championship.

The International Rugby Board has announced the dates, pools and venues for the 2012 IRB Junior World Championship in South Africa.

Cape Town and Stellenbosch will host the world's premier age-grade tournament between June 4 and 22, which will feature the world's top 12 ranked Under-20 teams.
In a move from recent Championships, the 2012 event will feature just two venues with triple-headers being played across five matchdays to maximise crowds and create a festival format within what is a large rugby heartland.
Two venues with strong rugby heritage have been selected with the University of Western Cape Stadium in Cape Town sharing the matches with the Danie Craven Stadium, which will host the final on June 22.
Coached by Mike Ruddock, this is the third year running that the Ireland Under-20s will share a pool with England, while they played South Africa twice in the pool stages and play-offs of the 2011 Championship.
2012 IRB JUNIOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP POOLS:
POOL A - New Zealand (2011 champions), Fiji, Wales, Samoa
POOL B - England, South Africa, IRELAND, Italy
POOL C - Australia, France, Argentina, Scotland
IRB Chairman Bernard Lapasset said: "The IRB Junior World Championship has grown to become one of the most eagerly anticipated events on the global rugby calendar, delivering a competitive development pathway for our Unions as well as a fantastic competitive product which has proven a hit with fans and broadcasters.
"So far, 111 players have made the step up from the tournament to win full Test caps, including 49 players who made their mark at the recent Rugby World Cup in New Zealand.
"We look forward to another memorable tournament in 2012 and the opportunity to embrace the rich rugby heritage of the region with the dynamic and free-flowing rugby provided by the next generation of international Test stars."
The South Africa Rugby Union (SARU) is committed to delivering a tournament to further the growth of rugby within the country, while building on the record-breaking 2011 edition staged in the Veneto region of Italy which was screened live by 19 broadcasters to 142 territories.
IRB Tournament Director Philippe Bourdarias, speaking in South Africa for the announcement, commented; "The IRB Junior World Championship is strategically important both for the IRB and participating Unions as it provides a competitive international arena to test and develop some of the best up-and-coming players and referees in the world.
"South Africa has a proven record in hosting wonderful rugby events and I am sure the teams and players will enjoy a unique experience here next year."
SARU President Oregan Hoskins added: "We are delighted to host the 2012 IRB Junior World Championship in our rugby-mad country and we look forward to welcoming the teams here in June."
The South African pair of Patrick Lambie and Francois Hougaard join an illustrious list of graduates which includes New Zealand's 2011 World Cup winners Aaron Cruden, Zac Guildford and Sam Whitelock, Ireland's Rhys Ruddock, Australian duo David Pocock and Will Genia, England's Courtney Lawes and Ben Youngs and Wales' youngest ever World Cup captain Sam Warburton.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/25014.php

Any news on when the squad for the 6 nations will be picked or when/if a training squad will be announced?

wixfjord · 12-12-2011 4:55pm

Jesus that's probably the worst group we could get is it?
Generally tend to struggle against the more powerful English and Saffers.

western · 13-12-2011 9:31pm

its going to be a mad one

ormond lad · 21-12-2011 6:42pm

Three Munster Players Named In Ireland U20 Squad
21 December 2011, 4:53 pm
By The Editor

The Ireland Under 20 team to take on a Leinster development side tomorrow, 22nd December at 2.00pm in Donnybrook has been named.

Two Munster players will feature on the first XV with James Rael, Garryowen F.C., named in the hooker position and fellow club player Shane Buckley starting in the back row. Dolphin’s Niall Scannell has been named in the replacements.

The now traditional training game against Leinster is part of their preparations for the 2012 Under 20 Six Nations Championship, which begins against Wales in Dubarry Park, Athlone of Friday, 3rd February.
Ireland U20:
Shane Layden (Buccaneers/Connacht)
14 - Conor Finn (Buccaneers/Connacht)
13 - Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
12 - Tadgh Leader (Galwegians/Connacht)
11 - Callum Boland (Buccaneers/Connacht)
10 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University/Leinster)
9 - Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster)
1 - Des Merrey (CLontarf/Leinster)
2 - James Rael (Garryowen/Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
4 - Conor Kindregan (UL Bohemians/Connacht)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers/Connacht)
6 - Shane Buckley (Garryowen/Munster)
7 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD/Leinster) Captain
8 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians/Connacht)
Replacements:
16 - Stephen Macaulley (Exiles)
17 - Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
18 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
19 - Paddy Lavelle (Dublin University/Leinster)
20 - Sam Coghlan Murray (UCD/Leinster)
21 - Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht)
22 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)
23 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
24 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)
25 - Diarmuid Higgins (Buccaneers/Connacht)
26 - Alan O’Connor (UCD/Leinster)
27 - Jack Conan (old Belvedere/Leinster)
28 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD/Leinster)
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/9871.php

vinny chase · 21-12-2011 7:07pm

There really is a lot of Connacht players in that side; great to see!

Also very interested to see how guys like Cathal Marsh, Luke McGrath and Conor Gilsenan do.

gally74 · 21-12-2011 8:31pm

Future bright for Connacht, follow on from the numbers last year

CIARAN_BOYLE · 21-12-2011 9:04pm

ormond lad wrote: »

Three Munster Players Named In Ireland U20 Squad
21 December 2011, 4:53 pm
By The Editor

The Ireland Under 20 team to take on a Leinster development side tomorrow, 22nd December at 2.00pm in Donnybrook has been named.

Two Munster players will feature on the first XV with James Rael, Garryowen F.C., named in the hooker position and fellow club player Shane Buckley starting in the back row. Dolphin’s Niall Scannell has been named in the replacements.

The now traditional training game against Leinster is part of their preparations for the 2012 Under 20 Six Nations Championship, which begins against Wales in Dubarry Park, Athlone of Friday, 3rd February.
Ireland U20:
Shane Layden (Buccaneers/Connacht)
14 - Conor Finn (Buccaneers/Connacht)
13 - Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
12 - Tadgh Leader (Galwegians/Connacht)
11 - Callum Boland (Buccaneers/Connacht)
10 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University/Leinster)
9 - Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster)
1 - Des Merrey (CLontarf/Leinster)
2 - James Rael (Garryowen/Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
4 - Conor Kindregan (UL Bohemians/Connacht)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers/Connacht)
6 - Shane Buckley (Garryowen/Munster)
7 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD/Leinster) Captain
8 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians/Connacht)
Replacements:
16 - Stephen Macaulley (Exiles)
17 - Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
18 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
19 - Paddy Lavelle (Dublin University/Leinster)
20 - Sam Coghlan Murray (UCD/Leinster)
21 - Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht)
22 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)
23 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
24 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)
25 - Diarmuid Higgins (Buccaneers/Connacht)
26 - Alan O’Connor (UCD/Leinster)
27 - Jack Conan (old Belvedere/Leinster)
28 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD/Leinster)
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/9871.php

Leinster side, I believe a few of them are still eligible for the U20s and would be there if they weren't on provincial duty.

15: Darren Hudson (St. Mary’s College)
14: Mark Corballis (Old Belvedere)
13: Alex Kelly (UCD)
12: Collie O’Shea (Clontarf)
11: Andrew Boyle (UCD)
10: Noel Reid (Clontarf)
9: Patrick O’Driscoll (Lansdowne)

1: Jack O’Connell (Lansdowne)
2: Tom Sexton (Lansdowne)
3: Martin Moore (Lansdowne)
4: Neilus Keogh (Lansdowne)
5: Jerry Sexton (St. Mary’s College)
6: Ciaran Ruddock (St. Mary’s College) CAPTAIN
7: Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne)
8: Eoghan Masterson (Clontarf)

REPLACEMENTS:

16: David Doyle (UCD)
17: Adam Clarkin (UCD)
18: James Tracy (UCD)
19: Conor Owende (Old Belvedere)
20: Michael Oyuga (Old Belvedere)
21: Brian du Toit (Dublin University)
22: Aaron Sheehan (Old Belvedere)
23: Craig Ronaldson (Lansdowne)
24: Stephen Murphy (UCD)
25: Daniel Ruddock (Seapoint)

GerM · 21-12-2011 10:07pm

Delighted to see Gilsenan get the nod and handed the captaincy especially with 4 or 5 lads in the side that are on their second year with the U20 team. Can't rate him highly enough for someone that only recently turned 19. Awesome engine on him and should make his debut for the full Leinster side at some point in the next year I would hope if he can stay fit. McGrath is the other obvious one from a Leinster perspective. I'm equally surprised and pleased to see such a crop of Connacht players involved.

With that said, there are players like Tadhg Furlong, Michael Sherlock, Paddy Jackson and JJ Hanrahan who aren't there that will almost certainly be involved in the starting side so I expect significant change come the 6N.

Hagz · 21-12-2011 10:33pm

GerM wrote: »

With that said, there are players like Tadhg Furlong, Michael Sherlock, Paddy Jackson and JJ Hanrahan who aren't there that will almost certainly be involved in the starting side so I expect significant change come the 6N.

I wonder will Jackson be involved much. He's getting a lot of game-time for the senior side so it would kind of be a step backwards wouldn't it?

porterbelly · 21-12-2011 10:46pm

Hagz wrote: »

I wonder will Jackson be involved much. He's getting a lot of game-time for the senior side so it would kind of be a step backwards wouldn't it?

Is he though?

On the bench a good bit but very little gametime. I'd say Ulster will want him covering the bench though so he mightn't be involved

irishbucsfan · 21-12-2011 10:53pm

It's very much a trial U20s team. Don't think the starting team in Feb will look much like that.

Hagz · 21-12-2011 10:54pm

porterbelly wrote: »

Is he though?

Well....a lot for a 19yr old.

vinny chase · 21-12-2011 10:57pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's very much a trial U20s team. Don't think the starting team in Feb will look much like that.

Are you involved with Buccaneers as your username would suggest?

Do you know much about all their young players in the side?

They have the entire back three, and another smattering of players throughout the remainder of the squad.

Been really impressed with the little bits I've seen of Shane Layden.

porterbelly · 21-12-2011 11:03pm

vinny chase wrote: »

Are you involved with Buccaneers as your username would suggest?

Do you know much about all their young players in the side?

They have the entire back three, and another smattering of players throughout the remainder of the squad.

Been really impressed with the little bits I've seen of Shane Layden.

He's supposed to be a great prospect, came on for the seniors in the RDS a couple of months ago.

Boland, Layden, Qualter, Kindregan, Conneely, Marmion and Carty are all regulars at AIL level

Finn is only back after 8 weeks out so not sure about him

irishbucsfan · 21-12-2011 11:04pm

Not involved with Buccaeers I'm afraid. Living in England at the moment, so possibly the worst qualified person to comment on these chaps. But I know some of the Connacht fans on here have definitely spoken about Layden, Leader and the lads playing lovely rugby with them this season.

irishbucsfan · 21-12-2011 11:04pm

Is Coneely regularly an 8?

porterbelly · 21-12-2011 11:08pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Is Coneely regularly an 8?

Mainly a 7, but played 6 for Connacht during the interpros

He's a big lad, 6'2 over 100kg so I'd say his future lies at 6 or 8

irishbucsfan · 21-12-2011 11:40pm

porterbelly wrote: »

Mainly a 7, but played 6 for Connacht during the interpros

He's a big lad, 6'2 over 100kg so I'd say his future lies at 6 or 8

I was very impressed with him as a 7 which is why I asked. I know there is another brother so I thought I might be getting confused. I suppose having Gilsenan means Conneely and himself will be fighting for that 7 jersey tooth and nail.

Darn us Irish and our absolute boatload of natural opensides!

I think a backrow of Connely, Gilsenan, Butler could potentially control possession in the 6 Nations. Qualter is a class act (Is Kearney overage? What about McKeon?) and will bring great energy to the row. Not sure about the front rowers at all this year, I was quite clued in there last year. Losing guys like Annett and Tracy will be tough. Don't know if we have many good young props at this age level... we'll have to avoid the scrum I guess! Tadgh Furlong will hold up the tighthead side at least, top prospect that he is.

McGrath has a lot of hype to live up to. If he does and Jackson comes in alongside him then we'll have two top half backs. Outside them we could see Hanrahan and someone like Coughlan-Murray or Alex Kelly. Not as good as in the recent past but still quite good IMO.

I don't know if this team will be as good as it has been in recent years. Heres to hoping there are a few surprise packages waiting in the wings of the Irish provincial system.

Hype710 · 21-12-2011 11:54pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I was very impressed with him as a 7 which is why I asked. I know there is another brother so I thought I might be getting confused. I suppose having Gilsenan means Conneely and himself will be fighting for that 7 jersey tooth and nail.

Darn us Irish and our absolute boatload of natural opensides!

I think a backrow of Connely, Gilsenan, Butler could potentially control possession in the 6 Nations. Qualter is a class act (Is Kearney overage? What about McKeon?) and will bring great energy to the row. Not sure about the front rowers at all this year, I was quite clued in there last year. Losing guys like Annett and Tracy will be tough. Don't know if we have many good young props at this age level... we'll have to avoid the scrum I guess! Tadgh Furlong will hold up the tighthead side at least, top prospect that he is.

McGrath has a lot of hype to live up to. If he does and Jackson comes in alongside him then we'll have two top half backs. Outside them we could see Hanrahan and someone like Coughlan-Murray or Alex Kelly. Not as good as in the recent past but still quite good IMO.

I don't know if this team will be as good as it has been in recent years. Heres to hoping there are a few surprise packages waiting in the wings of the Irish provincial system.

Butler, Kelly, Kearney and McKeown all overage. I would imagine we will see Ulster's Henderson, Nelson and Farrell come into the mix come Six Nations. So maybe a side of:

15 Nelson
14 Layden
13 Farrell
12 Hanrahan
11 Coughlan Murray
10 Jackson/Marsh
9 McGrath
8 Conneely
7 Gilsenan
6 Buckley
5 Henderson
4 Qualter
3 Furlong
2 Rael
1 Merrey

boynesider · 22-12-2011 12:40am

I thought Jordan Coughlan was supposed to be a top prospect as well but none of you seem to have him in your teams? Have heard a lot about him but maybe he's still a bit young yet

Overall I think we should have a pretty good side this year. Might even challenge for the title

CIARAN_BOYLE · 22-12-2011 12:48am

boynesider wrote: »

I thought Jordan Coughlan was supposed to be a top prospect as well but none of you seem to have him in your teams? Have heard a lot about him but maybe he's still a bit young yet

Second best backrower at his school last year. Probably shouldn't have made the leinster academy this year imo (should have gone subacademy) but made the academy cause Leinster wanted to keep him away from pro cricket

GerM · 22-12-2011 9:06am

boynesider wrote: »

I thought Jordan Coughlan was supposed to be a top prospect as well but none of you seem to have him in your teams? Have heard a lot about him but maybe he's still a bit young yet

He's a great prospect. This side is very much an experimental one. Conneely is in his second year with the side so is a year further down the line with respect to physical development which is massive in comparison to someone who is only out of school. Coughlan's time will come. His main competition is in the form of Jack Conan who is another quality No. 8.

My main wish for rugby is that Conan one day plays for the Barbarians simply for pun.

Quint2010 · 22-12-2011 9:58am

GerM wrote: »

He's a great prospect. This side is very much an experimental one. Conneely is in his second year with the side so is a year further down the line with respect to physical development which is massive in comparison to someone who is only out of school. Coughlan's time will come. His main competition is in the form of Jack Conan who is another quality No. 8.

My main wish for rugby is that Conan one day plays for the Barbarians simply for pun.

Pretty sure Coughlan turned 19 last autumn sometime so he is fairly old for his first year out of school and not sure he would be too far behind in the physical development stakes.

bamboozle · 22-12-2011 11:15am

Michael Sherlock broke a finger playing for clontarf against shannon a few weeks back, Tadhg Furlong has been out since the summer, not sure when he's due back. Watched Des Merry propping for Clontarf against Cork Con who had Archer and Dev prop John Ryan, he held his own for about 50 mins then tired, great future ahead for him, big unit.

Great to see the number of Connacht players in the squad.

ed7890 · 22-12-2011 11:39am

ormond lad wrote: »

Three Munster Players Named In Ireland U20 Squad
21 December 2011, 4:53 pm
By The Editor

The Ireland Under 20 team to take on a Leinster development side tomorrow, 22nd December at 2.00pm in Donnybrook has been named.

Two Munster players will feature on the first XV with James Rael, Garryowen F.C., named in the hooker position and fellow club player Shane Buckley starting in the back row. Dolphin’s Niall Scannell has been named in the replacements.

Munster's contribution is a hooker and a lock/6. It seems like these are the only positions we produce these days. Well, scrumhalf as well.

shuffol · 22-12-2011 12:45pm

Peter Nelson from Ulster has been scoring regularly in the B&I cup of late, meant to be a great prospect too, talk of him maybe getting a run for the full side over christmas. Looking forward to seeing the half back pairing, could be the first time in years we've had a half decent scrumhalf.

Promademad · 22-12-2011 1:03pm

As far as I know both furlong and Sherlock will miss the 6n!!! Sherlock under went surgery on his finger and furlong got shoulder surgery after the world cup last year!!! Apparently he played the full world cup with a goosed shoulder and had to take pain killers threw out !!! Fairly impressive seeing as he was one of Irelands best players over in Italy!!! Jackson got stretched off during ulsters last game with what looked to be a serious injury and Ian Henderson picked up a serious leg injury against Leinster a at the start of the year!!! It will be tough missing such experienced players during the 6n especially furlong as it seems to be a real lack of front row players in this squad!!'

Hagz · 22-12-2011 1:12pm

yeh, what he said!!!

shuffol · 22-12-2011 2:39pm

Promademad wrote: »

As far as I know both furlong and Sherlock will miss the 6n!!! Sherlock under went surgery on his finger and furlong got shoulder surgery after the world cup last year!!! Apparently he played the full world cup with a goosed shoulder and had to take pain killers threw out !!! Fairly impressive seeing as he was one of Irelands best players over in Italy!!! Jackson got stretched off during ulsters last game with what looked to be a serious injury and Ian Henderson picked up a serious leg injury against Leinster a at the start of the year!!! It will be tough missing such experienced players during the 6n especially furlong as it seems to be a real lack of front row players in this squad!!'

Apparently Jacksons injury isnt as bad as first feared and he still hasnt been ruled out of Ulsters game with Leinster on the 26th.

porterbelly · 22-12-2011 3:44pm

shuffol wrote: »

Peter Nelson from Ulster has been scoring regularly in the B&I cup of late, meant to be a great prospect too, talk of him maybe getting a run for the full side over christmas. Looking forward to seeing the half back pairing, could be the first time in years we've had a half decent scrumhalf.

Pity they signed Terblanche, he may have got a run at some stage otherwise

amtw · 22-12-2011 5:18pm

Anybody got a score from the match today. KO 2.00pm how did it go.

Hagz · 22-12-2011 5:21pm

amtw wrote: »

Anybody got a score from the match today. KO 2.00pm how did it go.

40 - 15 to u-20s

Ireland captain Conor Gilsenan started off proceedings with a 2nd minute try, converted by the impressive Cathal Marsh, to get proceedings underway before Marsh then converted his own try nine minutes later to assert an early spell of pressure by Ireland.
Leading 14-0 Mike Ruddock’s side looked potent but gradually Leinster clawed their way back into the game and were rewarded with a Jack O’Connell try on 25 minutes.

But as the half wore on Ireland began to threaten once more and their centre Barry Daly took a wonderfully weighted Marsh pass to race clear to score into the Bective end of the ground, with out-half Marsh converting, to make it 21-5 at the interval.

A raft of substitutions on both sides at half time gave opportunities to virtually two new teams and the break had the desired effect for Leinster with first hooker David Doyle (45 mins) and then Darren Hudson (50) – who did superbly well to keep the ball alive firstly and then capitalise on a kick and chase – to make it 21-15.

But the recovery was short-lived and Ireland scored tries late on from Jack Carty (64), an intercept Jack Conan effort – both converted by sub Carty – and finally the electric Kieran Marmion to round off a fine win.

amtw · 22-12-2011 5:27pm

GerM · 22-12-2011 5:45pm

Gilsenan taken off injured after 10 minutes. Gah. All action openside with great leadership; I really hope he doesn't go the way of Paul Ryan and David Pollock.

d-gal · 22-12-2011 5:48pm

Great to see the amount of Connacht lads included.
I'm saying it now - Layden to be star of the team, unbelievable prospect

shuffol · 22-12-2011 6:02pm

GerM wrote: »

Gilsenan taken off injured after 10 minutes. Gah. All action openside with great leadership; I really hope he doesn't go the way of Paul Ryan and David Pollock.

Was Paul Ryan ever any good, never impressed me whenever I've seen him. Pollock unfortunately had limitless potential as a 7. Looking forward to seeing Gilsenan now, does he play AIL?

Thats a pretty impressive victory for the u-20s btw, lot of B&I cup players and ex Irish u-20s in the Leinster side.

GerM · 22-12-2011 6:33pm

shuffol wrote: »

Was Paul Ryan ever any good, never impressed me whenever I've seen him. Pollock unfortunately had limitless potential as a 7. Looking forward to seeing Gilsenan now, does he play AIL?

I thought Ryan was very good as an out and out openside but possibly underpowered for the professional game. He was excellent at underage and marked for big things. Captained Ireland throughout the underage set ups. With that said, due to injury, he never had an opportunity to bulk up over any period. His injury record was abysmal. He seemed to suffer an injury every single time he took to the field as a senior. His career followed a very, very similar path to Pollock except Ryan never even managed to get fit enough to get a run of games under his belt for the Leinster senior side. Both great opensides, both leaders, captains throughout their careers.

Gilsenan is following an identical path thus far. He's with UCD but I'm not sure he has made an appearance for their AIL side. He has been playing a lot with representative sides so wouldn't have been about for many UCD games. Has 3 caps for Leinster's A side, a few appearances for Leinster's U20 side and has been with Irish U20 side now too. Hopefully this injury is very minor and he'll be back 100% ahead of the U20 6N training camps.

thebaz · 22-12-2011 7:18pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's very much a trial U20s team. Don't think the starting team in Feb will look much like that.

is that like a leinster U 21 team ? , some of the subs i would have thought would be starting , if picked on merit ?

ormond lad · 23-12-2011 1:49pm

Ireland U19 Training Squad Named

23 December 2011, 10:56 am
By Editor

Ireland U-19 Coach Colin McEntee has named a 32 man squad for a training camp to take place on December 28th and 29th.

The squad is essentially an U-20 Development squad and the two day camp will bring the players together under McEntee and Assistant Coach Nigel Carolan.

Ireland U-19 Training Squad
Edward Byrne - Clongowes College
Bryan Byrne - Clongowes College
James Connolly - Newbridge
Jamie Dever - Westport Rice College
Barry Digby - Marist
Ultan Dillane - Tralee
Tom Farrell - Castleknock College
Brian Haugh - Young Munster
Robert Henshaw - Marist
Niall Horan - Bohemians
Conor Joyce - Malone
Donagh Lawler - St. Micheals College
Darragh Leader - Galwegians
Eoghan Masterson - Clontarf
Max McFarland - Clongowes College
Harry McNulty - Dublin University
Michael Mellet - Castleknock College
Kenneth Murphy - Pres Bray
Stuart Olding - Belfast Harlequins
Matthew Rea - Ballymena Academy
Mark Roche - Landsdowne
Rory Scholes - Belfast Harlequins
Christopher Taylor - Malone RFC
Gavin Thornbury - Blackrock College
Josh Van Der Flier - UCD
John Andrew - Ballymena
Steven Crosbie - Old Belvedere
David Panter - Corinthians
John Donnan - Ballynahinch
Jerry Sexton - St. Mary's
Ryan Murphy - Dolphin
Jack Fitzpatrick - Gonzaga College

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/25152.php

Aboyfcukugly · 28-12-2011 11:21pm

tadgh leader , conor finn and shane layden are all CCR schools players from last year are they? along with teirnan o halloran aswell that school seems to be making a name for itself!!

Ireland u20 6 Nations & World Cup 2012

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