Tallaght not as bad as you think

iPlop · 14-01-2011 1:41am

-Leelo- wrote: »

Admittedly I don't live there anymore, I'm in Saggart now and love it here but if it came to it and I had to move back to Jobstown it wouldn't bother me. I keep to myself anyway. I can understand people saying it's a kip, because it is dirty, anyone can see that. It's when people make personal judgements that it bothers me, being raised in Dublin 24 does not make you any less of a person raised in Dublin 4. It's a shame a few knackers gave the place a bad name really.

Yeah where I live now the cop shop closes at 11pm.If it ever opens after that I'll know theres trouble in the area:pac: BTW saggart is grand and only spitting distance from tallaght ,handy!

I-Shot-Jr · 14-01-2011 1:51am

I go to college there and haven't had any major trouble ever. Granted there's an above average level of knacks hanging around they're for the most part harmless. I've drank in the metro plenty and have always enjoyed my time there!

Although I did have a few sketchy moments walking through tymon park with a crate of booze though. I was a fresher and only in college two weeks, I didn't know any better. Luckily enough the youths following me pissed off when I threatened to "bleedin blade 'em"

orangehat · 14-01-2011 1:51am

Does anybody know banana from tallaght

Sprouts · 14-01-2011 2:00am

orangehat wrote: »

Does anybody know banana from tallaght

Does he hang around with Rasher Skinner and Basher?

iPlop · 14-01-2011 2:00am

orangehat wrote: »

Does anybody know banana from tallaght

Who me?

pikachucheeks · 14-01-2011 2:05am

I-Shot-Jr wrote: »

I go to college there and haven't had any major trouble ever. Granted there's an above average level of knacks hanging around they're for the most part harmless.

+ 1, pretty much.

Some areas in Tallaght are pretty decent, other parts are fairly dodgy ...Essentially the same as every other town in Dublin.

I feel sorry for the many decent people who live in Tallaght who are faced with generalisations about where they live and what sort of people they are on a regular basis. A lot of the time, it's based on fear mongering in the press.

orangehat · 14-01-2011 2:26am

Sprouts wrote: »

Does he hang around with Rasher Skinner and Basher?

not sure who he hangs around with, spent some time in the joy with him, gas man he was

iPlop · 14-01-2011 2:30am

orangehat wrote: »

not sure who he hangs around with, spent some time in the joy with him, gas man he was

Wasn't me so!

The_B_Man · 14-01-2011 2:31am

pikachucheeks wrote: »

+ 1, pretty much.

Some areas in Tallaght are pretty decent, other parts are fairly dodgy ...Essentially the same as every other town in Dublin.

I feel sorry for the many decent people who live in Tallaght who are faced with generalisations about where they live and what sort of people they are on a regular basis. A lot of the time, it's based on fear mongering in the press.

haha, im not tryin to slag ya, but i noticed you're from D6W. When I was living there I found out all about why it was changed from D6W instead of D24!

Just think, you could be living in Tallaghts area code now if it wasnt for that!!:D

ArtSmart · 14-01-2011 2:31am

well, I think pretty dirty...so....

KungPao · 14-01-2011 2:34am

To say Tallaght is a kip is ridiculous. To say some parts of it are well dodgy is understandable.

Most of west Tallaght and Tymon North are iffy. East and south Tallaght into Firhouse (which is part of Tallaght but lets not open that can of worms) is generally quite nice.

To sum up; 77 bad, 77A good.

orangehat · 14-01-2011 2:37am

My brothers car was stolen recently, he lives in a nice area in Dublin, guards found the car abandoned in a field , it appears the driver got stuck in the mud post thaw, was very surprised to find after taking prints the guards came to the conclusion it was a young lad from Tallaght who had stolen it, very surprised indeed !

hinault · 14-01-2011 2:51am

Old enough to remember when Tallaght was basically a village surrounded by fields stretching from the Dominican Priory down to Walkinstown roundabout and to the cemetery at Spawell.
This was in the early 1970's.

Tallaght is a huge amalgam of different areas now with the likes of the original village, Old Bawn, Jobstown, Feathercairn, Killinardin.......etc all categorised today as "Tallaght".

The majority of Talllaght is fine, populated with ordinary decent people.

iPlop · 14-01-2011 2:57am

hinault wrote: »

Old enough to remember when Tallaght was basically a village surrounded by fields stretching from the Dominican Priory down to Walkinstown roundabout and to the cemetery at Spawell.
This was in the early 1970's.

Tallaght is a huge amalgam of different areas now with the likes of the original village, Old Bawn, Jobstown, Feathercairn, Killinardin.......etc all categorised today as "Tallaght".

The majority of Talllaght is fine, populated with ordinary decent people.

Kilnamanagh and belgard are fine places to live and houses are not cheap there either.My mate bought a house in Kilnamanagh for 65k back in the day and we all slagged him about it "200 quid a month in mortgage payments ,you're off your head" funny how things turn out:D

orangehat · 14-01-2011 2:57am

hinault wrote: »

ordinary decent

criminals

hinault · 14-01-2011 3:13am

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Kilnamanagh and belgard are fine places to live and houses are not cheap there either.My mate bought a house in Kilnamanagh for 65k back in the day and we all slagged him about it "200 quid a month in mortgage payments ,you're off your head" funny how things turn out:D

Kilnamanagh and Belgard are grand - as are places like Old Bawn.
They're mature areas with a good mix of people from different backgrounds etc.

psycho-hope · 14-01-2011 3:21am

meh most places in dublin have had a bad name at one stage or another, i think part of the problem with tallaght is when it was originally built there was nothing but fields out there so the teenagers had sod all to do, i know thats not the case now but lets be honest Irish people have memories like bloody elephants.

I used to date a guy from tallaght and never had any trouble, tho i did notice the pj's as day wear brigade seem to have infested the square.

psycho-hope · 14-01-2011 3:25am

El Horseboxo wrote: »

It's the same as Finglas. I've lived here most of my life except for a good few years in the US and i've never had any problems. And i lived in the south for a lot of the years i lived here before moving to another part. Yeah a lot of shít has happened here but people outside the place make it seem like they're gonna catch a bullet as soon as they cross over the line.

My bf moved from jobstown to finglas 13years ago gives me hours of entertainment winding him up:D having said that id feel safer walking from the bus stop to his house at night on my own then i would waiting for a bus at the dart station in bray in the dark

Randy Shafter · 14-01-2011 10:39am

Tallaght is ok i think. I agree with those who say its like anywhere else in Ireland: It has its good and bad points. And personally, I dont think that just because an area has higher house prices etc, means your not going to be living in a trouble free area or that its any better than less affluent areas. I think trouble in those so-called affluent places its just not reported in the media as much as it is in places like Tallaght.

sensibleken · 14-01-2011 11:25am

KungPao wrote: »

To

To sum up; 77 bad, 77A good.

77A goes through tymon north doesnt it? Its been years since i was on that bus but i always prefered getting the 77 to the square because it wouldnt go past it, usually because of people throwing stuff at it, so no one bothered getting it. 77A was a nightmare and you could forget about sitting upstairs on the nitelink

KungPao · 14-01-2011 11:36am

sensibleken wrote: »

77A goes through tymon north doesnt it? Its been years since i was on that bus but i always prefered getting the 77 to the square because it wouldnt go past it, usually because of people throwing stuff at it, so no one bothered getting it. 77A was a nightmare and you could forget about sitting upstairs on the nitelink

It depends where you are coming from/going to. For you're going to the Square from Walkinstown for example, it makes sense to jump on the 77, more direct. The problem is the 77 continues after the Square deep into west Tallaght, so it can have a fair few head the balls on it.

The 77A does pass through Tymon North but then goes through Seskin view/Old Bawn road (quite nice areas) and it terminates at the Square.

It's a fairly safe trip...but I wouldn't get the nitelink!

Lorrs33 · 14-01-2011 12:43pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

I have my doubts the the OP is from tallaght...he didn't even call it tallafornia.

You just stereotyped me, I'm a girl.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Tallaght reminds me of Slough.

OP, have you ever neen to Jobstown?

I lived in Jobstown for seven years. It was a great place to live, I knew everybody and I had the biggest garden on my road

To add more cool stuff about Tallaght: we have the second largest housing estate in Europe (Kilnamanagh) and we have the busiest Domino's Pizza in the world.

And no, I don't stereotype people from where they are from because I'm sick of people doing it to me. Don't do unto others...

cyrusdvirus · 14-01-2011 12:45pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

Don't do unto others...

If only the rest of tallaght lived by that creed there'd be a lot less crime!!

gsxr1 · 14-01-2011 12:48pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

You just stereotyped me, I'm a girl.

I lived in Jobstown for seven years. It was a great place to live, I knew everybody and I had the biggest garden on my road

To add more cool stuff about Tallaght: we have the second largest housing estate in Europe (Kilnamanagh) and we have the busiest Domino's Pizza in the world.

And no, I don't stereotype people from where they are from because I'm sick of people doing it to me. Don't do unto others...

I have to agree in part. I know a few great lads from Tallagh. But I also know a few very shift characters as well.

ceadaoin. · 14-01-2011 12:53pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

You just stereotyped me, I'm a girl.

I lived in Jobstown for seven years. It was a great place to live, I knew everybody and I had the biggest garden on my road

To add more cool stuff about Tallaght: we have the second largest housing estate in Europe (Kilnamanagh) and we have the busiest Domino's Pizza in the world.

And no, I don't stereotype people from where they are from because I'm sick of people doing it to me. Don't do unto others...

Why is that cool? It's huge housing estates with minimal facilties that cause a lot of the social problems associated with parts of Tallaght!

I'm also from Tallaght and have experienced the 'look' you get from some people when they find out where you're from. Doesn't bother me TBH, some parts of Tallaght are pretty rough in fairness. Unfortunately it's these areas that get all the publicity so I don't blame people for having misconceptions about it

NothingMan · 14-01-2011 12:56pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is that cool? It's huge housing estates with minimal facilties that cause a lot of the social problems associated with parts of Tallaght!

I would say Kilnamanagh has decent facilities and is not one of the areas associated with the social problems of Tallaght. There is a large community centre there and well supervised kids Disco. Lots of green areas for football etc... The fact that it's one of the biggest in Europe and it's mostly council housing (I think) and it's a nice place to live is cool.

Lorrs33 · 14-01-2011 12:56pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is that cool? It's huge housing estates with minimal facilties that cause a lot of the social problems associated with parts of Tallaght!

I'm also from Tallaght and have experienced the 'look' you get from some people when they find out where you're from. Doesn't bother me TBH, some parts of Tallaght are pretty rough in fairness. Unfortunately it's these areas that get all the publicity so I don't blame people for having misconceptions about it

It has a shopping centre, dentist, doctor surgery, elderly facilities, etc. Is that not enough for you?

iPlop · 14-01-2011 1:00pm

NothingMan wrote: »

I would say Kilnamanagh has decent facilities and is not one of the areas associated with the social problems of Tallaght. There is a large community centre there and well supervised kids Disco. Lots of green areas for football etc... The fact that it's one of the biggest in Europe and it's mostly council housing (I think) and it's a nice place to live is cool.

I wasn't aware of that and no one I know that lives there would be aware of that either ,I don't think there are any council houses in Kilnamanagh tbh

ceadaoin. · 14-01-2011 1:03pm

NothingMan wrote: »

I would say Kilnamanagh has decent facilities and is not one of the areas associated with the social problems of Tallaght. There is a large community centre there and well supervised kids Disco. Lots of green areas for football etc... The fact that it's one of the biggest in Europe and it's mostly council housing (I think) and it's a nice place to live is cool.

Yeah Kilnamanagh is one of the better areas I would say (I thought it was mostly private housing, not sure though). I just meant in general that large housing estates seem to breed these kind of problems, so having one the largest in Europe in your area isn't really cool.

Edit: According to Wikipedia, its the largest private housing estate in Europe. Although there isn't a citation for that, so might not be true

The_B_Man · 14-01-2011 1:06pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

It has a shopping centre, dentist, doctor surgery, elderly facilities, etc. Is that not enough for you?

dont forget the primary school, and the creche, as well as the astro park pitch, and the soccer pitches and the GAA pitches. then theres the Pub (with late bar, off licence, bookies) and then theres the Tallaght Youth Theatre beside it as well.

Its also right beside the LUAS, and 3 bus routes (4 if u count the 56A), not to mention being right beside Tymon Park which is a really nice place, with its own Gaeltacht school.

Lorrs33 · 14-01-2011 1:51pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah Kilnamanagh is one of the better areas I would say (I thought it was mostly private housing, not sure though). I just meant in general that large housing estates seem to breed these kind of problems, so having one the largest in Europe in your area isn't really cool.

Edit: According to Wikipedia, its the largest private housing estate in Europe. Although there isn't a citation for that, so might not be true

It would be kind of difficult to get rid of housing estates, tbh, seeing as they're everywhere so that would mean the "problem" isn't just with Tallaght, is it?

LuckyLloyd · 14-01-2011 1:56pm

I've lived in Tallaght for the majority of my life. I was raised there and by the time I was a teenager stuff like the Square, Tallaght Hospital and decent Dublin Bus services were up and running along with other amenities and services. As such, I have no problem with it. I'm used to it and it's home.

But I'd be mad if I tried to claim that it is as good as any other part of Dublin, or claimed that the "character" of people make up the difference. No, Tallaght is not a slum in the sense of what you'll see when you do a bit of travelling outside Ireland. But it's all relative and, while you can live happily in any part of Tallaght really, you have more things to be aware of than you would in other places.

Anecdotal evidence: I was back living in my parents house a couple of years ago and a friend of mine (from Mount Merrion) dropped by to pick me up on the way to something or another. I needed to drop into my local shop across the road, so we drove over, parked the car and went in and out to get what we needed. Nothing out of the ordinary that I could see. About 20 minutes down the road on our way my mate turned to me and said "hmm, your local shop is pretty grim".

Now, you may say 'oh that says as much about him as it does Tallaght or you (us)' and you are of course correct. But that someone would even think that speaks of something.

As to the original post on this topic - I would be of the opinion that it's a bad thing to live in the very same place your whole life regardless of whether it is a nice area or not!

super_furry · 14-01-2011 2:06pm

Tallaght is bleedin rapih and youse are all muppehs!

evercloserunion · 14-01-2011 2:08pm

super_furry wrote: »

Tallaght is bleedin rapih and youse are all muppehs!

*ahem* it's "rapeh"

ceadaoin. · 14-01-2011 2:08pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

It would be kind of difficult to get rid of housing estates, tbh, seeing as they're everywhere so that would mean the "problem" isn't just with Tallaght, is it?

Where did I say it's just Tallaght? All I was saying that IMO having one the largest estates in Europe is hardly a reason to be proud of your area. There's cooler things about Tallaght than a big housing estate.

iPlop · 14-01-2011 2:09pm

super_furry wrote: »

Tallaght is bleedin rapih and youse are all muppehs!

I wonder is that where the word "trun" came from as in throw.I remember some bird saying she was going to "trun" a rock at me

super_furry · 14-01-2011 2:10pm

Sink The Banana wrote: »

I wonder is that where the word "trun" came from as in throw.I remember some bird saying she was going to "trun" a rock at me

Trun is past tense. As in: "Who trun da bleedin bottle?"

Lorrs33 · 14-01-2011 2:14pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is that cool? It's huge housing estates with minimal facilties that cause a lot of the social problems associated with parts of Tallaght!
I'm also from Tallaght and have experienced the 'look' you get from some people when they find out where you're from. Doesn't bother me TBH, some parts of Tallaght are pretty rough in fairness. Unfortunately it's these areas that get all the publicity so I don't blame people for having misconceptions about it

There ya go!

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I've lived in Tallaght for the majority of my life. I was raised there and by the time I was a teenager stuff like the Square, Tallaght Hospital and decent Dublin Bus services were up and running along with other amenities and services. As such, I have no problem with it. I'm used to it and it's home.

But I'd be mad if I tried to claim that it is as good as any other part of Dublin, or claimed that the "character" of people make up the difference. No, Tallaght is not a slum in the sense of what you'll see when you do a bit of travelling outside Ireland. But it's all relative and, while you can live happily in any part of Tallaght really, you have more things to be aware of than you would in other places.

Anecdotal evidence: I was back living in my parents house a couple of years ago and a friend of mine (from Mount Merrion) dropped by to pick me up on the way to something or another. I needed to drop into my local shop across the road, so we drove over, parked the car and went in and out to get what we needed. Nothing out of the ordinary that I could see. About 20 minutes down the road on our way my mate turned to me and said "hmm, your local shop is pretty grim".

Now, you may say 'oh that says as much about him as it does Tallaght or you (us)' and you are of course correct. But that someone would even think that speaks of something.

As to the original post on this topic - I would be of the opinion that it's a bad thing to live in the very same place your whole life regardless of whether it is a nice area or not!

No it pretty much shows what a lame and pointless remark that was. I forgot how vibrant and cheerful every shop in Mount Merrion looks.

And how old do you think I am?

ricero · 14-01-2011 2:17pm

What's the roughest estate in tallaght ? Is it springfield ?

Calibos · 14-01-2011 2:22pm

psycho-hope wrote: »

My bf moved from jobstown to finglas 13years ago gives me hours of entertainment winding him up:D having said that id feel safer walking from the bus stop to his house at night on my own then i would waiting for a bus at the dart station in bray in the dark when Shamrock Rovers fans are heading home after a match with Wanderers or the gangs of Dublin lads head home from their knacker drinking and arson sessions on Bray head of a Summer weekend.

FYP

I live around the corner from the station and I hear of more trouble at Shankill station than Bray tbh.

Bray may be an example of local government incompetance, of wasted potential and the whole place could do with some demolitions and a few coats of paint etc

but I wouldn't live anywhere else. I think for the 4th largest town/city in Ireland with a population of over 33,000 we have less scumbag problems than would normally be expected for a town our size. Do you see a lot of the trackie wearing demographic about the place? Yes indeed, but ours seem to be better behaved than a lot of towns.

MagicMarker · 14-01-2011 2:25pm

ricero wrote: »

What's the roughest estate in tallaght ? Is it springfield ?

Rossfield imo.

seamus · 14-01-2011 2:26pm

ricero wrote: »

What's the roughest estate in tallaght ? Is it springfield ?

Fortunestown/Kiltalown part of Jobstown.

ceadaoin. · 14-01-2011 2:27pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I just meant in general that large housing estates seem to breed these kind of problems, so having one the largest in Europe in your area isn't really cool.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is that cool? It's huge housing estates with minimal facilties that cause a lot of the social problems associated with parts of Tallaght!

Lorrs33 wrote: »

There ya go!

I still don't see where I said it was only in Tallaght that these problems happen. Parts of Tallaght are lovely, but there are some parts that aren't, same as many other areas in the country. I don't get a chip on my shoulder about people thinking the worst, why wouldn't they when probably the only time they see Tallaght in the news is in relation to a negative news story.

sensibleken · 14-01-2011 2:35pm

Its irelands biggest lengerie section housing estate i understand

flash1080 · 14-01-2011 2:36pm

Tallaght is a complete ****hole.

Orando Broom · 14-01-2011 2:47pm

Tallaght is a festering cesspool of lazy, dole scroungers unmarried mothers fleecing the soical welfare system, fatherless, feral scumbags who have an air of entitlement and exist in a consequence free environment. Tallaght is a hotbed of innate criminality.

If the people of Tallaght had any regard for the place (they don't) they wouldn't let the hordes of young thugs wander round in their tracksuits like it was an olympic village. The people of Tallaght don't live they exist.

ntlbell · 14-01-2011 2:50pm

Lorrs33 wrote: »

There ya go!

What facilities are missing?

super_furry · 14-01-2011 3:04pm

Orando Broom wrote: »

Tallaght is a festering cesspool of lazy, dole scroungers unmarried mothers fleecing the soical welfare system, fatherless, feral scumbags who have an air of entitlement and exist in a consequence free environment. Tallaght is a hotbed of innate criminality.

If the people of Tallaght had any regard for the place (they don't) they wouldn't let the hordes of young thugs wander round in their tracksuits like it was an olympic village. The people of Tallaght don't live they exist.

Needs more foreigner bashing.

af_thefragile · 14-01-2011 3:07pm

I did my driving test twice and Tallaght and failed both times.
All I can say is its an awful place to do your driving test.

I did it in Rathgar after that and passed! So if you wanna do your driving test in Dublin, do it in Rathgar!

ntlbell · 14-01-2011 3:13pm

af_thefragile wrote: »

I did my driving test twice and Tallaght and failed both times.
All I can say is its an awful place to do your driving test.

I did it in Rathgar after that and passed! So if you wanna do your driving test in Dublin, do it in Rathgar!

there's no shame in having to make 3 attempts at a driving test.

the roads are full of bad drivers.

Tallaght not as bad as you think

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