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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Smart Bug


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If we're descended from apes then how come we don't build our houses in trees? Can someone please just answer that question for me?


    The birds kicked us out. Damn birds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Maybe I am wrong about the species/imagination front, I guess it it hard to tell.
    Don't cod yourself, belief in nonsense drags you further back down towards the animals.

    Codswallop. Believing in nonsense makes the world more interesting. Ever wonder why so many species, especially humans love to trip?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Twin-go wrote: »
    Being superstitious I think involves less imagination. It is looking for the easy answer to things. It takes a lot more to work out how we actually got here by using science than thinking it was all created by a God figure.


    Those type of people who blindly believe things without question, only because it was what they were taught at school and their communities, I agree have no imagination.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If we're descended from apes then how come we don't build our houses in trees? Can someone please just answer that question for me?

    Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it
    The Maniacs! They blew it up! Ah, damn them! God damn them all to hell.

    (slight edit! :D)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,715 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    WindSock wrote: »
    We build them from trees

    Bricks are made from trees now?


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Bricks are made from trees now?

    Yup! conkerete! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭TheTubes


    humanji wrote: »
    It's not fact, it's a theory.
    www.notjustatheory.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If we're descended from apes then how come we don't build our houses in trees? Can someone please just answer that question for me?


    Also... if we're descended from Apes...Why do we still have apes????


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,715 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Also... if we're descended from Apes...Why do we still have apes????

    And another thing; if man came out of the ocean billions of years ago...how come apes don't live in the water?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Smart Bug wrote: »
    ...
    What's your view on life on earth & how it got here...

    That was in the OP. I think its safe to say the thread has strayed somewhat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    TheTubes wrote: »
    That doesn't make it fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Twin-go


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If we're descended from apes then how come we don't build our houses in trees? Can someone please just answer that question for me?


    Not all Apes live in trees.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,059 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Also... if we're descended from Apes...Why do we still have apes????

    We're not descendant from any particular species of ape, the apes of today and humans had one common ancestor


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    humanji wrote: »
    That doesn't make it fact.



    for the second time, google "evolution is both a fact and a theory"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If we're descended from apes then how come we don't build our houses in trees? Can someone please just answer that question for me?


    we're not decended from apes. we share a common ancestor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭cianl1


    I find myself asking, why is this even on AH? This is supposed to be a fun and light-hearted forum, is it not? People are taking this issue way too seriously. In all fairness, we should be making fun of both positions, not trying to prove which is right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,109 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Evolution now means survival of the fattest.

    I went for the Rastafarian option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    bleg wrote: »
    for the second time, google "evolution is both a fact and a theory"

    If you can prove that it's 100% fact then there are a whole load of evolutionary biologists who would like you to explain it to them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    humanji wrote: »
    That doesn't make it fact.

    Animals have been observed to adapt gradually over generations. The best explanation for this observable fact is what we call evolution. There might be some small details of the theory that are not totally accurate, such as how the theory was updated because Darwin's original theory didn't take account of genes, but the fact remains that animals have been observed to adapt over generations and all of the evidence says that they do it by the process of natural selection.

    Why do we need a new flu vaccine every year? That's right, evolution :P

    As has been suggested, google evolution is both a theory and a fact


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,715 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    we're not decended from apes. we share a common ancestor.

    And did he live in the sea?
    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    Why do we need a new flu vaccine every year? That's right, evolution :P

    So you admit it's a bad thing. This is what happens when we listen to scientists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    The poll could have been much much more clear.

    One can believe in Evolution, and Old Age Creationism at the same time. It's dishonest to say that it is Evolution vs the rest. Many of the others incorporate evolution.

    Could have been an honest mistake mind :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    Animals have been observed to adapt gradually over generations. The best explanation for this observable fact is what we call evolution. There might be some small details of the theory that are not totally accurate, such as how the theory was updated because Darwin's original theory didn't take account of genes, but the fact remains that animals have been observed to adapt over generations and all of the evidence says that they do it by the process of natural selection.

    Why do we need a new flu vaccine every year? That's right, evolution :P

    As has been suggested, google evolution is both a theory and a fact
    Don't get my wrong, I believe in evolution. I just know that it hasn't been proven. As you say, there are holes in it. Claiming it's fact simply because scientist use different definitions of the wor "fact" is bullsh*t. It's still the most obvious and likely explanation.

    Twilightning stated that it was fact and that you can't believe in a fact. Well, unless you're an Empiricist, I suppose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Jakkass wrote: »
    The poll could have been much much more clear.

    One can believe in Evolution, and Old Age Creationism at the same time. It's dishonest to say that it is Evolution vs the rest. Many of the others incorporate evolution.

    Could have been an honest mistake mind :)
    I think he was going for a lighthearted joke thread, but it backfired. :D

    Though I am interested to know who voted for "Other" and what that other is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭iregk


    bluto63 wrote: »
    While I believe in Evolution, it doesn't fully explain what we're doing here.

    Who says we're here to do anything?

    Why do people have this definite belief that life must have a meaning or an end goal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭mobius42


    The poll is a trick question as the only theory there is Evolution. A theory is something that explains a set of phenomena. The religious "theories" explain nothing at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    iregk wrote: »
    Who says we're here to do anything?

    Why do people have this definite belief that life must have a meaning or an end goal?

    Why do people have this definite belief that life doesn't have any meaning at all and that we are here for absolutely nothing at all?

    I personally find that much much harder to believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Smart Bug


    keano_afc wrote: »
    That was in the OP. I think its safe to say the thread has strayed somewhat.


    You could say it has evolved.




    Or God made it so, whatever...


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    humanji wrote: »
    Don't get my wrong, I believe in evolution. I just know that it hasn't been proven. As you say, there are holes in it. Claiming it's fact simply because scientist use different definitions of the wor "fact" is bullsh*t. It's still the most obvious and likely explanation.

    Twilightning stated that it was fact and that you can't believe in a fact. Well, unless you're an Empiricist, I suppose.

    When people say that evolution is a fact they mean that adaptation through natural selection is a fact because it has been observed to be true. They know that there is a possibility that some details of the theory are wrong.

    @Jakkass, people who think that evolution is guided by god do not understand evolution. If it's being guided then it's no longer natural selection, it's divine selection


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭iregk


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Why do people have this definite belief that life doesn't have any meaning at all and that we are here for absolutely nothing at all?

    I personally find that much much harder to believe.

    Possibly because there are more signs towards that than there are to the reason for life!


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