Launch of new Cork Public Bikes Scheme

Sephiroth_dude · 17-10-2014 9:57pm

Typical

Lemag · 29-10-2014 10:54am

The pdf files from the following link details the locations of the docking stations - https://sites.google.com/site/cccdrawings/public-bike-scheme

KCAccidental · 29-10-2014 2:25pm

Lemag wrote: »

The pdf files from the following link details the locations of the docking stations - https://sites.google.com/site/cccdrawings/public-bike-scheme

they are really missing a trick by not having any stations at victoria/dennehys cross. I imagine use would be very heavy there.

deRanged · 29-10-2014 2:31pm

Having the farthest out station at Gaol Cross seems a bit short alright - you'd think they'd want to serve the student market out to the student accommodation at Victoria Cross.

Bacchus · 29-10-2014 2:58pm

deRanged wrote: »

Having the farthest out station at Gaol Cross seems a bit short alright - you'd think they'd want to serve the student market out to the student accommodation at Victoria Cross.

I imagine that they need to keep the stations relatively closely packed so if one station is full, a person can cycle to the nearest one and leave the bike there without winding up ages away from their destination. In time, assuming this scheme is successful, new stations will be added to destinations further out.

KCAccidental · 29-10-2014 4:55pm

Bacchus wrote: »

I imagine that they need to keep the stations relatively closely packed so if one station is full, a person can cycle to the nearest one and leave the bike there without winding up ages away from their destination. In time, assuming this scheme is successful, new stations will be added to destinations further out.

seems bizarre to me that they would ignore an area where nearly a thousand students live. One station at gaol cross, one at victoria cross, one at dennehys cross and one by the mardyke arena would cover it sufficently.

seems like they are missing out on core customers.

By they way, the areas where the stations will be have been fenced off, so work is pretty imminent, I assume.

Mushy · 29-10-2014 6:51pm

The station at college of comm has been started anyway!

Adrian J Lynch · 29-10-2014 6:56pm

I also use my bike to commute to work when its not raining. Its great to see incentives like this occurring especially for the younger generation.

Bacchus · 29-10-2014 8:24pm

KCAccidental wrote: »

seems bizarre to me that they would ignore an area where nearly a thousand students live. One station at gaol cross, one at victoria cross, one at dennehys cross and one by the mardyke arena would cover it sufficently.

seems like they are missing out on core customers.

By they way, the areas where the stations will be have been fenced off, so work is pretty imminent, I assume.

I'd say with whatever budget they had, they figured they could get X number of stations & bikes. The need to get the service right at the heart of the city first and then move outward. Safety I'm sure is a factor too. A lot of work has been put in to getting cycle lanes around the city center, I assume (hope) they were planned in conjunction with the bike station plans.

cgcsb · 29-10-2014 8:34pm

Exactly like the rollout in Dublin where Connolly and Heuston stations were completely left out of the initial phase. However now that Dublin is just finished its third phase of expansion those issues have been addressed and the number of bikes is set to increase 5 fold in aa many years

evilivor · 12-11-2014 12:38pm

Cork’s bike scheme will launch on December 18.

Customers who pre-register for the scheme on www.bikeshare.ie will get a 50% discount, receiving a special offer of a €5 annual subscription per city. When a customer registers for an annual subscription, they will receive a welcome pack containing details of the scheme and a subscription card.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bikeshare-scheme-preparations-go-up-a-gear-as-launch-nears-297390.html

Bacchus · 12-11-2014 3:14pm

Great news it's coming soon, nice early bird deal too. The map on that site is the first good look at the docking station locations.

As well as heading out towards CIT in the future, it'd be great to see some stations put along the way out to Blackrock.

So disappointed that this is sponsored by Coca-Cola though. I get that sponsorship money is needed but this is another case of the poison slapping it's name on the remedy.... so to speak. "Cycle, be healthy and have a Coke while you're at it" :rolleyes:

evilivor · 12-11-2014 3:19pm

Bacchus wrote: »

Great news it's coming soon, nice early bird deal too. The map on that site is the first good look at the docking station locations.

It's perfect timing too -

"Now son, I know you wanted a bike for Christmas, well this is a special bike. So special you have to share it…"

PrzemoF · 12-11-2014 3:31pm

What's the story with the deposit? Is it locked when you take a bike or it's locked for as long as you're part of the scheme?

okedoke · 12-11-2014 4:43pm

Looks like they put a hold on your card, like hotels sometimes do and then debit it if you damage/steal etc. bike.

From Terms..

"In the case of an Annual Account, this security deposit comprises the pre-authorisation by you for the debit of your payment card by an amount of up to €150 in respect of loss, theft or damage to any bike hired by you and/or associated equipment. In the case of a 3-Day Account, the security deposit is debited from your payment card as part of the Account establishment process.
If a bike is not returned within 24 hours of the commencement of the hire it is considered to be missing. In the case of an Annual Account, the payment card associated with the Account will be debited by the penalty fee of €150. In the case of a 3-Day Account where the Customer has not returned a bike within 24 hours of the commencement of the hire, the security deposit will be retained by the Authority and will not be returned to the Customer. "

Lyaiera · 12-11-2014 6:08pm

With the €150 hold, does that actually take the money out of the account if you use a debit card? (Visa debit.)

KCAccidental · 12-11-2014 6:11pm

It doesn't as far as I know.

I'm joined gocar and they have a similar thing in their T&C's but the hold is 1000 euro. I think it only comes into play once you report something or it goes missing. It wont affect your balance day to day.

Mushy · 12-11-2014 11:22pm

As far as I'm aware, a hold on the card can affect the ability to use the card. In the sense that, it may show up as €150 balance, but if a hold was on it for €70, and you wanted to buy something for €85, it won't go through. Hopefully I'm wrong, otherwise I won't be able to use this scheme.

Looking at the map, the locations of the stations are slightly wrong. The College of Comm one is outside the front door on the corner, not the opposite side of the river. And one at Merchants Quay looks slightly off too.

KCAccidental · 13-11-2014 12:57am

Mushy wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, a hold on the card can affect the ability to use the card. In the sense that, it may show up as €150 balance, but if a hold was on it for €70, and you wanted to buy something for €85, it won't go through. Hopefully I'm wrong, otherwise I won't be able to use this scheme.

I don't think the bike scheme could expect anyone to accept not being able to use 150 quid of their own money in their account. As I said with gocar, If you fail to bring the car back or damage it, then they will put a hold on the money in your account. They wont keep it day to day just in case. That would be insane and hardly anyone would sign up.

deRanged · 13-11-2014 9:35am

I was half way through signing up till I saw the deposit. I won't be signing up till I'm sure they won't be taking money or blocking my card.

Mushy · 13-11-2014 9:40am

KCAccidental wrote: »

I don't think the bike scheme could expect anyone to accept not being able to use 150 quid of their own money in their account. As I said with gocar, If you fail to bring the car back or damage it, then they will put a hold on the money in your account. They wont keep it day to day just in case. That would be insane and hardly anyone would sign up.

Oh right that's what I was hoping. Cheers for that, because I really don't want to be down an awful lot of money, or seemingly so. It is a great incentive, even though most of my journeys will be short should I wish to use them.

Pitcairn · 13-11-2014 10:21am

I signed up using my Visa Debit card and they took the €5 but not €150.
I haven't been able to check if I will be allowed to go below €150 on my balance though.

devondudley · 13-11-2014 10:26am

the 150 will be frozen in your account till you bring back the bike, on the off chance someone steals a bike they have to be sure you have the funds to cover such lose, exactly the same as car hire, money stays in your account but you cant access it till bike is returned safe.

Mushy · 13-11-2014 12:08pm

devondudley wrote: »

the 150 will be frozen in your account till you bring back the bike, on the off chance someone steals a bike they have to be sure you have the funds to cover such lose, exactly the same as car hire, money stays in your account but you cant access it till bike is returned safe.

So would I be right in saying that the hold starts as soon as you take a bike, but is then returned when bike is put back? So may only have a hold of 20 minutes at times?

zulutango · 13-11-2014 12:40pm

Mushy wrote: »

So would I be right in saying that the hold starts as soon as you take a bike, but is then returned when bike is put back? So may only have a hold of 20 minutes at times?

I think the hold lasts as long as you are subscribed to the service, not just when you've a bike taken out.

devondudley · 13-11-2014 1:02pm

no the hold lasts the day, takes the bank a day or two to release the funds then after that,

zulutango · 13-11-2014 1:18pm

devondudley wrote: »

no the hold lasts the day, takes the bank a day or two to release the funds then after that,

It doesn't last for the full year, i.e. as long as you are registered?

Mushy · 13-11-2014 1:20pm

devondudley wrote: »

no the hold lasts the day, takes the bank a day or two to release the funds then after that,

So you need the money in the account to take the bike out of the stand then! Cos towards the end of the pay month I wouldn't have €150 in the account, or would use it twice in a day so would need €300.

Bit stupid!

devondudley · 13-11-2014 1:40pm

Mushy wrote: »

So you need the money in the account to take the bike out of the stand then! Cos towards the end of the pay month I wouldn't have €150 in the account, or would use it twice in a day so would need €300.

Bit stupid!

its also a bit stupid of a company to give you a bike for a fiver and hope you bring it back with no guarantee ? tesco make you pay a euro deposit for a trolley and if they didnt they would end up everywhere

zulutango · 13-11-2014 1:50pm

Guys, ye do know that this is a very successful scheme in many cities in the world don't ye? I don't see why it won't be in Cork.

Mushy, you don't need that much money in your account. As far as I know you sign up for a year and in doing do you agree to a clause that the operators can take 150 euro from you if they don't get their bike back from you. You're free to use the bike throughout the year. The 150 euro isn't taken unless the bike goes missing.

cgcsb · 13-11-2014 2:26pm

the money will not be taken from your account and will not be frozen in your account. They can charge your account if the bike goes missing, but it won't affect your bank balance otherwise.

Mushy · 13-11-2014 2:40pm

devondudley wrote: »

its also a bit stupid of a company to give you a bike for a fiver and hope you bring it back with no guarantee ? tesco make you pay a euro deposit for a trolley and if they didnt they would end up everywhere

I know, just my experiences of a hold being put on money is that you then cannot access it for use. I've nothing against the charge if something happens, just my experiences of having a hold on funds.

zulutango wrote: »

Guys, ye do know that this is a very successful scheme in many cities in the world don't ye? I don't see why it won't be in Cork.

Mushy, you don't need that much money in your account. As far as I know you sign up for a year and in doing do you agree to a clause that the operators can take 150 euro from you if they don't get their bike back from you. You're free to use the bike throughout the year. The 150 euro isn't taken unless the bike goes missing.

I hope and think it will be successful. Small enough city, it's perfect.

cgcsb wrote: »

the money will not be taken from your account and will not be frozen in your account. They can charge your account if the bike goes missing, but it won't affect your bank balance otherwise.

That is what I was hoping for. Thanking you!

namloc1980 · 24-11-2014 5:58pm

cgcsb wrote: »

the money will not be taken from your account and will not be frozen in your account. They can charge your account if the bike goes missing, but it won't affect your bank balance otherwise.

My account has a €1 hold on it. This allows them debit the €150 if the bike goes missing or is damaged. Anyone get their welcome pack yet? Signed up on the 12th, no sign of anything yet.

okedoke · 02-12-2014 4:41pm

signed up around the same time - no sign of the welcome pack yet either. I wonder are they still on target?

Pitcairn · 02-12-2014 4:47pm

You can see the docking stations around the place.
Some of them just have the foundations in place while others have the actual bike docks and the control booth.
However I haven't seen any branding in place yet.
Seems ambitious that we will be able to be operational in just over two weeks. (Dec 18th)

I also applied for my welcome pack on day one but haven't received it yet.

Pitcairn · 02-12-2014 4:49pm

https://twitter.com/AlanHealy/status/537912609727848448

okedoke · 02-12-2014 4:54pm

the app is now available for iphone anyway - bikeshare.ie

Poxyshamrock · 02-12-2014 9:10pm

Galway got their cards about a week before their launch.
I registered for limerick and got my card today.

I would say you Cork folk will get your cards the week before the Cork launch.
I don't know what they're holding them back for.

thomil · 03-12-2014 7:43pm

Pitcairn wrote: »

Seems ambitious that we will be able to be operational in just over two weeks. (Dec 18th)

I wouldn't be too worried about that. The Camden Quay station is literally just around the corner from me, and it only took them a couple of days to get that up. Of course, the big question is how many construction crews are working on that project, but that is something that none of us know at this point.

On a different note, it looks like they're getting ready to move the bike racks at Emmet Place again, if i had to guess, i'd say it's being done to make room for the docking station there.

Diziet · 03-12-2014 7:58pm

Has anyone got the welcome pack yet? I did not even manage togfet to the payment stage, I get a server error.

Pitcairn · 09-12-2014 9:34pm

I got my welcome pack today.
A letter with the card on it and two leaflets with the terms and conditions and a guide to the scheme and the charges.
The card itself doesn't seem to have any chip or magnetic strip, just my name and the pin number. I assume that's all I need.

No info on the start date but the Examiner says not all the stations will be operational by December 18th.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bike-stations-not-ready-for-launch-301616.html

opus · 09-12-2014 10:53pm

I saw the €5 on my last credit card bill but no welcome pack as yet

Knasher · 09-12-2014 11:37pm

Pitcairn wrote: »

The card itself doesn't seem to have any chip or magnetic strip, just my name and the pin number. I assume that's all I need.

I'd imagine they have rfid chips in them.

Pitcairn · 10-12-2014 10:06am

Knasher wrote: »

I'd imagine they have rfid chips in them.

I just downloaded a NFC app and touched it off my card and it did detect a NFC tag so I assume we will have to touch the card off the terminal to use the service.

okedoke · 10-12-2014 10:49am

is it a credit card size or key fob - key fob would be great, stick it on your keys and forget about it

Pitcairn · 10-12-2014 11:03am

Credit card. But because it's NFC hopefully they can upgrade it so we can just use our phones.

zulutango · 10-12-2014 11:06am

okedoke wrote: »

is it a credit card size or key fob - key fob would be great, stick it on your keys and forget about it

Credit card size

Milly33 · 10-12-2014 12:00pm

Is it €5 for the year or is it €5 for lets say until the end of 2014?

I would really like to believe they are going to get this up and running but I hear on the radio again there are going to be more delays. I haven't even seen any of the bikes yet

zulutango · 10-12-2014 12:02pm

Milly33 wrote: »

Is it €5 for the year or is it €5 for lets say until the end of 2014?

I would really like to believe they are going to get this up and running but I hear on the radio again there are going to be more delays. I haven't even seen any of the bikes yet

It was pretty much the same situation in Limerick, but in the end it was mostly up and running on time. Work has not been commenced on some stations though and I'd imagine that it will be the same in Cork.

Milly33 · 10-12-2014 12:20pm

mmmm id like to see it happen but I have little to no faith

Launch of new Cork Public Bikes Scheme

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