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Murder rate gone up by 33%.

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    #62
    Little CuChulainn
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    Ralf and Florian wrote: »
    I wonder what the detection rate for murder is these days?When you consider that the vast majority of gangland killings go without any convictions I' d say it must be pretty low.

    When you say the vast majority go without convictions are you basing that on any evidence?


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    #63
    P.Walnuts
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    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    When you say the vast majority go without convictions are you basing that on any evidence?

    The wiki page for the Crumlin/Drimnagh feud said that there was only successful prosecution in 3 out of the 16 murders. I'd say that's fairly typical of gangland crimes, particularly in dublin.


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    #64
    Ralf and Florian
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    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    When you say the vast majority go without convictions are you basing that on any evidence?

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/unsolved-gang-killings-top-100-in-two-divisions-30201392.html


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    #65
    Little CuChulainn
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    I would have thought the solve rate was higher, particularly recently.


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    #66
    Robbo
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    Tragically, I fear that the OP may have been murdered since this thread began.


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    #67
    Little CuChulainn
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    Robbo wrote: »
    Tragically, I fear that the OP may have been murdered since this thread began.

    Statistically, it seems he'll probably get away with it


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    #68
    Beano
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    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Statistically, it seems he'll probably get away with it

    Do you think he murdered himself? Guaranteed to get away with it so.


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    #69
    Ralf and Florian
    Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    I would have thought the solve rate was higher, particularly recently.


    There seems to be a good record for detections in the case of Limerick gangland killings but the opposite is the case in Dublin.


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    #70
    Clark2014
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    darkdubh wrote: »
    So the official crime rates for this country have been released and murder is up in the last year by over 30%.Theres also big increases for kidnapping and other violent crime.So despite what the Guards and government keep telling us Irish society seems to getting more violent.


    That unreal. Yet they will claim "crime is going down".


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    #71
    tayto lover
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    Holsten wrote: »
    In realilty the rate is much higher due to the huge amount of unreporting that goes on, mostly down to Garda negligence.
    :pac::pac:

    Ha hba How many murders exactly went unreported?


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    #72
    Clark2014
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    :pac::pac:

    Ha hba How many murders exactly went unreported?

    He has a point a lot of small crimes go unreported.


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    #73
    Nodin
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    Clark2014 wrote: »
    He has a point a lot of small crimes go unreported.


    So there's a lot of small people murdered and its never reported?


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    #74
    copey
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    Burglaries up by 25% in winter


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    #75
    Beano
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    copey wrote: »
    Burglaries up by 25% in winter

    They're just trying to get in out of the cold.


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    #76
    darkdubh
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    Beano wrote: »
    They're just trying to get in out of the cold.


    Youre making a great contribution to this thread I must say.Keep up the trolling.


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    #77
    Beano
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    darkdubh wrote: »
    Youre making a great contribution to this thread I must say.Keep up the trolling.

    its called humour. look it up.


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    #78
    bb1234567
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    Holsten wrote: »
    In realilty the rate is much higher due to the huge amount of unreporting that goes on, mostly down to Garda negligence.

    Not much higher...maybe the odd criminal death goes unrecorded but otherwise the stats are accurate. Do you think many murders of normal innocent people go unreported? They dont


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    #79
    bb1234567
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    Ralf and Florian wrote: »
    A few reasons for the increases seem to be a big increase in people getting killed in drunken assaults/stabbings at house parties.Maybe the easy avilability of cheap booze should be looked at and off licenses more heavily regulated.There seems to be more and more gangland killings certainly and people being killed for more trivial reasons.Being in a fight with some scummer in a pub and being shot a few days later,petty rows etc.

    I dont think we need any booze regulations just because some lunatics stabbed eachother when they had a bit too much.


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    #80
    mikeyjames9
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    Riskymove wrote: »
    Murders are not reported?

    some get mistaken for homicides


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    #81
    darkdubh
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    Beano wrote: »
    its called humour. look it up.

    Humour?Don't flatter yourself.For that you need to be funny.


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    #82
    Beano
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    darkdubh wrote: »
    Humour?Don't flatter yourself.For that you need to be funny.

    humour is subjective. And this is AH after all.


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    #83
    Sofa King Great
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    Wouldn't part of the reason that detection rates are so low in these gangland feuds be down to the fact that they are killing one person as he killed someone else? Mortality rate in the gangland business would be pretty high.

    Pretty hard to build enough evidence to charge someone if, in the intervening period they are killed.


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    #84
    Beano
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    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    Wouldn't part of the reason that detection rates are so low in these gangland feuds be down to the fact that they are killing one person as he killed someone else? Mortality rate in the gangland business would be pretty high.

    Pretty hard to build enough evidence to charge someone if, in the intervening period they are killed.

    I think its more a case of a lack of witnesses. Or a lack of witnesses willing to testify anyway.


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