Irish Navy ... any info

incorrect · 14-05-2010 2:32pm #1

so with the current recruitment, I was thinking of sending an application over....

but what does day to day for an enlisted member entail ?

are you at sea much ?
are things interesting day to day ?
what is initial/ follow up training like ?

know of a few in the army, but no one in the navy, and from what I've heard from the army side of things I don't know if i'd want to join...

I also have an ordinary degree in IT, and would love to move into the technical side of things, but would I be waiting for months (slash years) for courses to come up in the tech divisions ?

food for thought I reckon, anyone else any other questions, throw them in

superref · 14-05-2010 7:17pm

sign up like everyone else and you'll find out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

incorrect · 15-05-2010 5:17am

great help ...

superref · 15-05-2010 12:59pm

you did ask............
i was just telling !!!!

DustyMan · 15-05-2010 1:14pm

Probally best to go to military.ie but i'm sure you probally know that

http://www.military.ie/naval/

anyway othere suggestions could be;

You could also look up the Australian Navy recruiting page (I was once a candidate for Australian Army Officer but withdrew my application) you can get a lot of info about general entry into the Navy there and what its like at sea etc.

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/navy/

Also navy recruiting for the US armed forces have Q & A sections that will give you an idea about navy life.

http://www.navy.com/navy/

Of course there are MAJOR differances regarding delpoyments and funding etc ect but if its general info about navy life well then you may find it on those sites.

Good luck!

concussion · 15-05-2010 1:20pm

Application form at the bottom of the page.

http://www.military.ie/careers/enlisted/recruits/navy/navy.htm

incorrect · 15-05-2010 10:15pm

superref wrote: »

you did ask............
i was just telling !!!!

no you didn't tell anything, trolling more like it

DustyMan wrote: »

Probally best to go to military.ie but i'm sure you probally know that

http://www.military.ie/naval/

anyway othere suggestions could be;

You could also look up the Australian Navy recruiting page (I was once a candidate for Australian Army Officer but withdrew my application) you can get a lot of info about general entry into the Navy there and what its like at sea etc.

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/navy/

Also navy recruiting for the US armed forces have Q & A sections that will give you an idea about navy life.

http://www.navy.com/navy/

Of course there are MAJOR differances regarding delpoyments and funding etc ect but if its general info about navy life well then you may find it on those sites.

Good luck!

cheers man i'll hav a gander through them

Dr.Sanchez · 18-05-2010 8:40pm

Spend ALOT of time at sea... three of every five weeks I think!

gizmo555 · 18-05-2010 9:54pm

00Blaine00 wrote: »

Spend ALOT of time at sea... three of every five weeks I think!

Changed a lot since Ronnie Drew's time so . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II5tqdp-JUk

John Mason · 18-05-2010 10:12pm

my bro was in the navy for a few years and then transferred to the army. he couldnt take the boredom of 3 weeks at sea.

he loved the training part, up at 5am ten mile runs back for breakfast :eek: he was name best recruit.

there was too much hanging around not doing anything for him

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 12:24pm

irishbird wrote: »

my bro was in the navy for a few years and then transferred to the army. he couldnt take the boredom of 3 weeks at sea.

he loved the training part, up at 5am ten mile runs back for breakfast :eek: he was name best recruit.

there was too much hanging around not doing anything for him

There's a lot of hanging around and doing nothing in the army too, even more now that they've withdrawn from chad.

Faith+1 · 19-05-2010 1:10pm

Join the Irish Navy? Lol:D

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 1:25pm

Faith+1 wrote: »

Join the Irish Navy? Lol:D

Don't see anything wrong with someone wanting to join, at the end of the day it pays a decent wage with good time off... They should have named it the Irish coast guard instead of the navy though, the job they do is pretty similar to the us coast guard.

concussion · 19-05-2010 2:27pm

They're not called the Navy either.

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 3:03pm

concussion wrote: »

They're not called the Navy either.

Naval service is Navy.

concussion · 19-05-2010 3:28pm

It's a Naval Service not a Navy, just as we have an Air Corps and not an Air Force.

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 3:36pm

concussion wrote: »

It's a Naval Service not a Navy, just as we have an Air Corps and not an Air Force.

Zoom in, what does it say in big bold letters on the front of his jacket?

http://www.indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/jun2009/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_shell_irish_navy.jpg

MRLAZY · 19-05-2010 3:41pm

hi all.

I am currently thinking of applying for the Irish Navy. But the problem is I have a young daughter and a girlfriend of five years. Im not sure if it would be a bad decision if i enlisted. But it is a career that is really appealing to me.

Any 1 here currently enlisted and has any advise for me? is there much time off, and what is the money like.

thanks all

concussion · 19-05-2010 4:13pm

Where does it say Navy in any of these documents?

Department of Defence http://www.defence.ie/website.nsf/document+id/E38A23D784C47BCC802570B5005E8B65

Defence Forces website http://www.military.ie/naval/

Defence Act Restatement from the Attorney General http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/slru/Restatement_Defence_Acts_1954_to_1998_and_Courts-Martial_Appeals_Act_1983.pdf

Defence Forces Annual Report 08 http://www.defence.ie/WebSite.nsf/fba727373c93a4f080256c53004d976e/79dbfa99ee3515e58025766a00365447/$FILE/Annual%20Report%202008%20(English%20version).pdf

OS119 · 19-05-2010 4:46pm

pedant alert.

Navy/Naval Service - who cares?

it has grey ships with big guns on them, that makes it a Navy.

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 5:03pm

concussion wrote: »

Where does it say Navy in any of these documents?

Department of Defence http://www.defence.ie/website.nsf/document+id/E38A23D784C47BCC802570B5005E8B65

Defence Forces website http://www.military.ie/naval/

Defence Act Restatement from the Attorney General http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/slru/Restatement_Defence_Acts_1954_to_1998_and_Courts-Martial_Appeals_Act_1983.pdf

Defence Forces Annual Report 08 http://www.defence.ie/WebSite.nsf/fba727373c93a4f080256c53004d976e/79dbfa99ee3515e58025766a00365447/$FILE/Annual%20Report%202008%20(English%20version).pdf

Of course it's not going to say navy because the correct term is naval.

NAVY and NAVAL are the SAME thing!

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2. of or pertaining to ships of all kinds: naval architecture; naval engineer.
3. belonging to, pertaining to, or connected with a navy: naval affairs.
4. possessing a navy: the great naval powers.
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concussion · 19-05-2010 5:08pm

That can equally apply to Naval Service, which is the stated name of the DF's naval component. I don't like being an absolute pedant like this, but you did ask why it's called a navy and not a coastguard due to its role(s).

pete_cork · 19-05-2010 9:09pm

00Blaine00 wrote: »

Zoom in, what does it say in big bold letters on the front of his jacket?

http://www.indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/jun2009/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_shell_irish_navy.jpg

The guy in the front is about to get his head blown off by his colleeague behind him - look closely!!!!! haha!!!

mikeym · 19-05-2010 10:16pm

MRLAZY wrote: »

hi all.

I am currently thinking of applying for the Irish Navy. But the problem is I have a young daughter and a girlfriend of five years. Im not sure if it would be a bad decision if i enlisted. But it is a career that is really appealing to me.

Any 1 here currently enlisted and has any advise for me? is there much time off, and what is the money like.

thanks all

Recruit training lasts for 4 months and most patrols at sea are 4 weeks long.
Many civvies think that when you finish a patrol your off for 2 weeks which is not the case your still working onboard the ship and doing duties.
If you get seasick don't join!!!!

Dr.Sanchez · 19-05-2010 10:30pm

mikeym wrote: »

Recruit training lasts for 4 months and most patrols at sea are 4 weeks long.
Many civvies think that when you finish a patrol your off for 2 weeks which is not the case your still working onboard the ship and doing duties.
If you get seasick don't join!!!!

How doest it work with pay Mikey? I know its the same pay scale as the army but what about patrols and the likes?

wandatowell · 19-05-2010 10:46pm

Generally you have recruit training. (4 months)

You then start your line/branch training. (varies from a few weeks to 4 months, depending on which branch you are put into)

Then once you complete your line/branch training you will be posted to a ship for 2 years. During this period you will be going to sea for 2 - 4 weeks at a time with a week or two back at the Naval Base between each patrol. (Patrol lasting 2 - 4 weeks as I mentioned)

After two years at sea you will then be posted back to the base for two years.

Two years at sea followed by two years on base and so on and so forth.

But be warned its a common for lads to spend well over the two years at sea and as for getting your full two years in the base thats also rare. Its to do with the operational requirements of the service.

Hope I've made things easy to understand.

Local-womanizer · 20-05-2010 12:03am

wandatowell wrote: »

Generally you have recruit training. (4 months)

You then start your line/branch training. (varies from a few weeks to 4 months, depending on which branch you are put into)

Then once you complete your line/branch training you will be posted to a ship for 2 years. During this period you will be going to sea for 2 - 4 weeks at a time with a week or two back at the Naval Base between each patrol. (Patrol lasting 2 - 4 weeks as I mentioned)

After two years at sea you will then be posted back to the base for two years.

Two years at sea followed by two years on base and so on and so forth.

But be warned its a common for lads to spend well over the two years at sea and as for getting your full two years in the base thats also rare. Its to do with the operational requirements of the service.

Hope I've made things easy to understand.

Cheers for that,never actually knew the routine for the Navy,was a difficult thing to find!

Another question while your here if you know! Whats the story with the 2 in the picture? I know they most be boarding party,but how is one able to get to the stage they are at?

wandatowell · 20-05-2010 12:12am

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Another question while your here if you know! Whats the story with the 2 in the picture? I know they most be boarding party,but how is one able to get to the stage they are at?

No bothers man,

Each ship has its own armed boarding team. So when you get posted to a ship im pretty sure it simply a matter as saying you want to be on it and hey presto you'll get trained up. No interest in being on one myself. You dont get paid any extra for it and I'll be damned if im gonna put myself in harms way for zero pay off. Each to their own though. If its your thing by all means go for it.

MRLAZY · 20-05-2010 1:51pm

but do you get extra pay when your on patrol? Does anyone know how many roughly the navy are recruiting?

there doesnt really seem to be a big interest on this site, if the army, guards were recruiting there would be a **** load of threads and post about it.

Is there many on here after sending in an application?

Dr.Sanchez · 20-05-2010 4:50pm

MRLAZY wrote: »

but do you get extra pay when your on patrol? Does anyone know how many roughly the navy are recruiting?

there doesnt really seem to be a big interest on this site, if the army, guards were recruiting there would be a **** load of threads and post about it.

Is there many on here after sending in an application?

I'd say the competition will be huge, especially with alot of Cork people as its right on their doorstep.

If your thinking of applying, get out and start running now. They'll probably take on the fastest first!

mikeym · 21-05-2010 7:52pm

00Blaine00 wrote: »

How doest it work with pay Mikey? I know its the same pay scale as the army but what about patrols and the likes?

Recruit money doesn't pay very well but the pay goes up when training is completed.
If anyone is serious about getting in follow 00Blaine00's advice and make sure your fitness is up to scratch because with so many applying the navy can afford to be picky.

Dannyboy1987 · 22-05-2010 10:42am

What are the chances of being based in dublin ?

Comordha · 03-06-2010 11:59am

Is there any way of getting around the 25 upper age limit? Do the NAVY run a seperate cadetship competition to the army?

concussion · 03-06-2010 12:35pm

The upper age limit for the NS is under 27 (ie 26) for general service and under 28 (ie 27) for Cadetships. NS, AC and Army Cadeships must be applied for separately but only one Competition is run per year (so far).

Comordha · 03-06-2010 2:31pm

How come the General Service Booklet states 25?

http://www.military.ie/careers/booklets/genservice-eng.pdf

DylanJM · 03-06-2010 2:36pm

It says 27 in that booklet, maybe you were looking at the army section.

concussion · 03-06-2010 4:08pm

Bingo.

tommyhaas · 03-06-2010 4:19pm

Pretty sure its still €57 per day allowance on top of your basic pay while at sea

concussion · 03-06-2010 5:50pm

Looks like it tommyhaas - a document I have states €56.14 per day WEF 01/09/08. The pay rate listed in this document hasn't changed since then, though it's possible that the duty has.

MRLAZY · 03-06-2010 5:59pm

did all ye lads apply??, does any 1 know how soon fitness tests, medicals and interviews are? I say there will be lot of ppl applying so competion will be tough.

MRLAZY · 03-06-2010 6:00pm

is the fitness testy the same as the army??

concussion · 03-06-2010 6:22pm

MRLAZY wrote: »

is the fitness testy the same as the army??

Yes.

It would be helpful for all those applying for General Service in the DF to read through the General Service handbook found on the Careers page of the DF website. One discrepancy, the last Cadet Competition required a time of 11.40/13.10 mins for males/females so this may apply to the latest recruits aswell.

Comordha wrote: »

How come the General Service Booklet states 25?

http://www.military.ie/careers/booklets/genservice-eng.pdf

In terms of Patrol Duty Pay, the latest Cadet booklet states Cadets are paid €56.14, which would imply this is the correct rate for enlisted personnel.

MRLAZY · 04-06-2010 1:06am

HEY I JUST READ THE RECRUITMENT IMFORMATION HAND BOOK THING. ITS SAYS PERSONS INELIGIBLE FOR ENLISTMENT, AND BEING AN APRENTICESHIP IS ONE REASON???????????, WHYS THIS, I WAS DOING A PLASTERING APPRENTICESHIP BUT CONSTRUCTION WENT DOWN HILL, SO HAD TO PACK IT IN CAUSE HAD NO WORK, I WAS A FEW MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING QULIFIED. WILL THIS AFFECT ME?/

gunnerfitzy · 04-06-2010 8:34am

MRLAZY wrote: »

HEY I JUST READ THE RECRUITMENT IMFORMATION HAND BOOK THING. ITS SAYS PERSONS INELIGIBLE FOR ENLISTMENT, AND BEING AN APRENTICESHIP IS ONE REASON???????????, WHYS THIS, I WAS DOING A PLASTERING APPRENTICESHIP BUT CONSTRUCTION WENT DOWN HILL, SO HAD TO PACK IT IN CAUSE HAD NO WORK, I WAS A FEW MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING QULIFIED. WILL THIS AFFECT ME?/

The reason for the ineligibility of apprentices is that apprentices are in a legal contract with their employer for a fixed period that may conflict with your enlistment in the DF. You mention you are no longer an apprentice therefore this particular ineligibility criterion does not apply. However you must be able to prove that you are no longer an apprentice.

You should call the Recruitment Office in the Naval Service to clarify your situation.

Also, please go easy on the CAPS. There is a reason no one else does it!

Comordha · 04-06-2010 10:26am

Threw in an application. Considering packing in a career in Financial Services to serve my country out at sea. The pay is bad in the NAVY but it's a lifestyle choice and I think if you find something you are happy with money is not an issue. Besides I'm sure it's just about enough to live off. If you need more just borrow against your public sector pension :-)

Dr.Sanchez · 11-06-2010 2:13pm

Considering the age limit is 27 instead of 25 like the army, do you reckon they'll aim for more mature people rather than lads fresh out of school?...

John Mason · 12-06-2010 5:34pm

00Blaine00 wrote: »

There's a lot of hanging around and doing nothing in the army too, even more now that they've withdrawn from chad.

yip, which is why is has taken a sabbatical from the army and is heading off to a 3 year paramedic course in london

MRLAZY · 14-06-2010 5:40pm

hey, anyone else get the email bout the physcometic test upin croke park??

Dr.Sanchez · 14-06-2010 5:42pm

MRLAZY wrote: »

hey, anyone else get the email bout the physcometic test upin croke park??

Yeah, everyone got them as long as they met the minimum age/height requirements.

elius · 17-06-2010 12:57am

Yup got the email myself and will attend croker for the test.

Would have loved to have joined the army but was to late in life deciding what i wanted to do.

Is it possible to transfer to the army from the navy?

Dr.Sanchez · 17-06-2010 1:43am

elius wrote: »

Yup got the email myself and will attend croker for the test.

Would have loved to have joined the army but was to late in life deciding what i wanted to do.

Is it possible to transfer to the army from the navy?

Its possible after a number of years, but if thats the only reason you want to join the Navy then I'd suggest not to bother turning up for the test!

Irish Navy ... any info

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