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Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭1man3letters


    deathrider wrote: »
    Does Ed Boon know that MK characters have escaped into KI?

    yea as soon as i seen that video i thought mileena/skarlet.

    they also nicked the in game frame data on pause menu idea from injustice also.
    NRS setting the standard ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    they also nicked the in game frame data on pause menu idea from injustice also.
    NRS setting the standard ;)

    They gave shout outs to NRS at the Evo 2013 panel for putting frame data in IGAU. This should definitely be the new standard for FGs, I hope Capcom will also follow NRS's example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    I've been saying the same thing side Injustice announced the pause menu frame days. It should be as standard across the boards for all fighting games from now on. I reckon in a few years time people will be saying "Remember back in the stone age when people had to go online to access frame data?"

    Well played, Netherrealm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Hopefully they don't also just hardcode all the values in the frame data menu so that it gets horribly out of date....


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Jaysis lads, it's not like NR are perfect- that HUD they use is atrocious for spectators and correct me if I am wrong but someone can change someone elses button config because they use the same presets? :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Jaysis lads, it's not like NR are perfect- that HUD they use is atrocious for spectators and correct me if I am wrong but someone can change someone elses button config because they use the same presets? :o

    Nope, they ain't perfect, but the frame craic is a good move and a step in the right direction. It's something other fighting games should also use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    IJ Hud is bollocks

    Never know if I got reversal or not, also announcer is just poor.

    Have John J'onzz announce my games plz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    After a month since the last reveal, we finally have the chance to see the new character in action. I'm also happy to see that they removed her veil to make her look more like her own character rather than a Mileena copy. also the next reveal teased at the end being Orchid is also cool to see.

    Ken Lobb will be showing off the newest build on the Microsoft Studios stream for those who might be interested. it hasnt started yet but i think it will start within a half hour (of me posting this post)

    http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Is it just me or does Sadira look like she was designed by Todd McFarlane?

    Also I like how Orchid looks, design wise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Was skeptical but actually really liking her design and the whole spider motif.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Sadrina's proper new, yeah? I haven't just missed her from KI2 or she's not a secret character from an older have or anything?

    Out was only a matter of time before we saw Orchid. Having the glowing feline as a pet is a cool idea too. Also, nice to see that her tits aren't the size of canon balls any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    Youtube link of the Microsoft Studio's stream on KI (low quality)
    As mentioned in the stream, they are still balancing Sadira (in terms of her damage... since in this build its mental!) and you can see she isn't 100% polished yet but you can get an idea of what her play style is in this vid.

    her mobility looks crazy and can imagine that it will be a pain to fight against if one doesn't know the match up but i can already see how a character like Glacius could handle her (hold the ice ball/air M.k and air H.k).

    Also some notes from Eventhubs...
    Sadira character notes

    • Sadira has crazy air mobility. Looks like she came straight out of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, in my opinion.

    • Has a bit of a keep away game, but is mainly played as a rushdown character.

    • Not very well equipped on the ground (i.e. Her normals aren't the best).

    • Has the ability to double jump. She is the only character in the game with said jumping capabilities.

    • Can wall jump (like Vega or Guy in SF4), and has special moves that also bounce her off the wall.

    • Her jumping Medium Kick hits twice.

    • She also has multiple great cross up set ups.

    • Retains a dive kick that travels vertically down.

    • Back throw leads into a juggle combo. Launches opponent up, and she can follow up in the air.

    • Sadira has an air projectile. If it hits the opponent, can lead into a full ground combo.

    • Can perform instant air projectiles using the Tiger Knee technique.

    • Sadira also has air Shadow moves.

    • Seemingly endless air combo possibilities at the moment.

    • Has a command normal launcher that is performed by hitting forward + Heavy Kick.

    • Also has two Combo Enders that launch. Each Ender launches in a different direction.

    • Has a spinning special move that works as a traditional KI opener. Fairly unsafe on block.

    • Another one of her special moves is a flip kick with a bit of start up invincibility. Works well as anti-air.

    • Instinct Mode gives her the ability to summon “Web Balls” that stay on screen. When they connect, they keep the opponent in place and open to an attack. Can only have one on screen at a time, but can drop them at any time.

    • Web ball placement after a knockdown, coupled with air mobility lead to some devastating mix ups.

    Alternate costume and Shadow Jago info

    • Shadow Jago will come with the Day 1 Xbox Live Gold subscription. He will not be one of the 8 roster characters.

    • Each costume will have their own accessories. Instead of just a full swap, each accessory can be mixed and matched for a more unique look.

    • Original characters will get classic costumes and new fighters, like Sadira, will have interesting new alts.

    and to finish off, for you SF4 fans.... your Evo 2013 champ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    Sadira Gameplay Preview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios/b/465214000

    Latest stream featuring new colours for each character, fonts and Ultra cancels.

    27_ultracancel01.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    Part 2


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Played this at the weekend at Eurogamer. Really enjoyed it in the 15 minutes I had with it. Once you get a feel for the combo system (H>M>L) you'll be pulling off crazy combos in no time.

    I wouldn't hold your breath for a stick adaptor for the current gen sticks though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    Will this be at Play Expo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Apparently there's an Xbox One World Tour going on, and it's hitting Dublin on nov 17th (i think). KI should be present at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    deathrider wrote: »
    Apparently there's an Xbox One World Tour going on, and it's hitting Dublin on nov 17th (i think). KI should be present at it.

    from the 14th - 17th. just looked it up and found this

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-30-xbox-one-headed-to-london-dubin-in-75-city-world-tour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    2gen wrote: »

    I think that's the sane link I saw. Didn't notice the dates at the bottom though, as I only had a quick scan through it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    Ryan Hart talks about KI3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    A lot of info today. MS just had their "Killer Instinct Thursday" stream.



    also Max uploaded a sick video going over Killer Instinct's "Dojo Mode". i highly recommend you all to watch this video.



    and finally, the DH team accidently showed Orchid for a split second on the character select screen... long enough for people to get still frames of her.

    7XwmOxs.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    Fulgore plz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭Jun_DP101


    Hope tj combo makes the release


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Orchid looking a bit like a cyber Xena: Warrior Princess there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭kellxor.1337


    Fulgore and an ultra combo, satisfied, would love if was on 360 but deposit is down for Xbox one, so Xmas will be so nice:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Jun_DP101 wrote: »
    Hope tj combo makes the release
    They said a while back that it's launching with six characters: Orchid, Sadira, Thunder, Saberwulf, Glacius and Jago round out that number. 'Season 1' will be expanded with 2 more characters with DLC which are bundled in with the complete package price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Sairus wrote: »
    They said a while back that it's launching with six characters: Orchid, Sadira, Thunder, Saberwulf, Glacius and Jago round out that number. 'Season 1' will be expanded with 2 more characters with DLC which are bundled in with the complete package price.
    They're launching with fewer characters than Skullgirls Street Fighter II? :confused: :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    They're launching with fewer characters than Skullgirls Street Fighter II? :confused: :pac:

    The 7th and 8th character will be available by january and march.
    After that they plan on releasing 8 characters per season (they have already started work on the 2nd season)

    A bit of a bummer that it will take a little more time for a bigger roster but I do appreciate the fact each character will be very different and evenly balanced.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    2gen wrote: »
    The 7th and 8th character will be available by january and march.
    After that they plan on releasing 8 characters per season (they have already started work on the 2nd season)

    A bit of a bummer that it will take a little more time for a bigger roster but I do appreciate the fact each character will be very different and evenly balanced.

    In any fg, I'd rather a small, well done roster than a massive one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    from todays stream (10/10/13)





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    image-jpg.17357jar.png

    Fulgore and Spinal confirmed to be the last 2 characters?? this is a some what pre order collector's edition of the game. the images that are displayed on the cover art symbolize each character and show up on the VS screen of the game behind the character models as seen in the picture below

    CijJ48V_zps036716df.jpg

    since these 2 icons haven't been seen before in game it is safe to assume that they belong to the final two characters. also DHGs apparently removed this image from where it was originally hosted suggesting it was something they didn't want the public to see yet.

    971076-spinal2.jpg Spinal

    Fulgore1.jpg Fulgore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    So there'll be a boxed edition after all then?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    deathrider wrote: »
    So there'll be a boxed edition after all then?

    It says "Full download, no disc" on the box...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    Ah, poo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    from SRK

    " a collector’s edition of Double Helix Games’ upcoming Killer Instinct reboot was announced through the Microsoft Store. Dubbed the Pin Ultimate Edition, this digital bundle will package everything included in the $40 version with a limited run of pins designed by Penny Arcade. In addition, those who purchase it will be allowed early access to all of the first season’s content. "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen



    some unedited match videos

    0:56 Jago vs Sabrewulf
    3:58 Glacius vs Sadira


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    2gen wrote: »
    from SRK

    " a collector’s edition of Double Helix Games’ upcoming Killer Instinct reboot was announced through the Microsoft Store. Dubbed the Pin Ultimate Edition, this digital bundle will package everything included in the $40 version with a limited run of pins designed by Penny Arcade. In addition, those who purchase it will be allowed early access to all of the first season’s content. "

    I'm highly confused Ted!

    So from what I hear, it's a physical box that comes with a DLC code for the Ultimate edition, 2 KI pins (from a set that will rise to 16 KI pins given away for achieving monthly game-related goals) and a pin folder.

    However, it's also a Microsoft Store Exclusive. So it cannot be bought in stores.

    Odd move.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    Everything about this is half baked and rushed. par for the xbox one course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    However, it's also a Microsoft Store Exclusive. So it cannot be bought in stores.

    Odd move.
    That is very odd. When I heard of the Pin Edition I assumed it was so they could get one of their arguably killer apps on store shelves for launch and not locked away on XBLA. Limiting it to the MS Store seems very bizarre.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Sairus wrote: »
    That is very odd. When I heard of the Pin Edition I assumed it was so they could get one of their arguably killer apps on store shelves for launch and not locked away on XBLA. Limiting it to the MS Store seems very bizarre.

    It's also very cheap. They don't have to manufacture it, they don't have to deal with retailers and don't have to risk printing a million copies and none of them selling or printing too few and having nobody be able to buy it. Digital download removes all that hoopla.

    And if you'll recall, before they backpedalled earlier this year, Microsoft was all about the digital download future with the xbox one. Not being able to find this on shelves heavily jives with their original ethos for the console.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Kirby wrote: »
    It's also very cheap. They don't have to manufacture it, they don't have to deal with retailers and don't have to risk printing a million copies and none of them selling or printing too few and having nobody be able to buy it. Digital download removes all that hoopla.

    And if you'll recall, before they backpedalled earlier this year, Microsoft was all about the digital download future with the xbox one. Not being able to find this on shelves heavily jives with their original ethos for the console.
    Aye, I understand the benefits of digital, but the fact that they're doing such a heavily limited 'physical' release at all is what confuses me.
    If they were going to have a 'boxed' copy, I figure they'd want it in actual shops and not the very few MS Stores out there.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Sairus wrote: »
    Aye, I understand the benefits of digital, but the fact that they're doing such a heavily limited 'physical' release at all is what confuses me.
    If they were going to have a 'boxed' copy, I figure they'd want it in actual shops and not the very few MS Stores out there.

    And if they think for a second that I'm going to wait a week to get this shipped for the sake of a pin or two, they can think again.

    The more I think about it, it's another example of MS bias towards the USA...as if the Americans aren't getting enough preferential treatment on launch :rolleyes: .

    It's one of the games I'm actually most excited about on Xbox One. My only problem is the lack of fight stick compatibility :( I think I'll just be a pad player.

    Apart from SF, KI is the only fighting game that loved.Never liked Tekken, VF etc. From playing it at Eurogamer and reading what they are doing with the mechanics, I do think that it will be a great game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen






    from the 17/10/13 stream. some footage of training mode then matches for the second half.



    killerinstinctone-versionbreakdown.jpg
    this picture details the different offers for the game.

    they will finally reveal Orchid fully next week so thats something to look forward to... but until then you can get a good look at her yellow alt at 26:30 on the second vid (Buktooth once again accidentally putting her on stream).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    LOL

    ibsfgAPwgic1oT.gif

    *edit*

    Actually this got me curious, so I looked at the stream archive Ben linked.

    You're telling me that they just HAPPENED to pick random for the last match, and it just HAPPENED to land on Orchid? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    What am I missing in the picture above? All I'm seeing is Sabrewulf and an empty spot for Spider-Woman...

    Also, I agree with the idea of all these "accidental" slips bring done accidentally on purpose to drip-feed info and keep people talking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    deathrider wrote: »
    What am I missing in the picture above? All I'm seeing is Sabrewulf and an empty spot for Spider-Woman...

    Its a gif of what happened at the end of 2nd video that I just posted


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Yeah I'd be pretty sure wonder wom- Orchid was shown on purpose there.

    Us SF players are used to it with trollono.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Yeah I'd be pretty sure wonder wom- Orchid was shown on purpose there.

    Us SF players are used to it with trollono.

    100% set up imo.

    Looking at that pricing, I think MS are shooting themselves in the foot there. 8 characters (ie full game is far too cheap). Is early access and a few costumes worth an extra 20 euro? Two pins and folder worth another 20 euro on top of it?

    I can see alot of people just paying the 20 tbh. I'll be getting the Ultra Edition but only because I love my KI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    2gen wrote: »
    Its a gif of what happened at the end of 2nd video that I just posted

    Ah, I see. It's just coming up as a pic on my phone. Again, about these leaks; Doom says SF players are used to it. MK heads also are. Boon's boys are infamous for trolling. I'm sure we all remember looking for "Kano transformations" even though they didn't exist.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a fun way of mixing it up, and I'd imagine the KI lads think that they're evil geniuses, but nobody is actually falling for it.


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