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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Well Ray are we continuing with the taciturn approach or are you just been modest! What time did you do?

    TbL

    He didn't even tell his family!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    spent yesterday morning in a scouse wig dishing out water and powerade, so it was the evening before I got out for 55 minutes around Tymon. Not really in the mood for this but it had to be done.
    tempo Tuesday again, better this week - 3.50 pace for the first 20 minutes, 3.57 for the second 20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    75 minutes around UCD and home. Weird spasms? jolts? in the first few minutes, like I was getting little electric shocks right in the middle of my leg, but they passed quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Slow slow 50 minutes in to work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Another slow run this morning. Not intentional, just didn't get going properly. Straight from bed to run as well, first time in a while, and my feet and ankles were very stiff. Just under an hour in the end


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Well done on your National medal masters debut yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Another short and easy run on Saturday, about 6k

    Sunday, down to Tullamore for the Masters Track and Field Nationals ;)

    I'd decided ages ago that I'd do more track races next year, so I thought I might as well get some practice this year and give this a go. And rather than go all the way down to Tullamore for one race, I'd do a field event too :eek::cool::confused:

    High jump? :pac:
    Pole vault? :pac::pac::pac: (not on in the Masters anyway)
    Long/Triple Jump? mmm, no, too much risk of injury
    Throws then
    Weight for distance? More injury potential
    Discus? argh, no, can't get the hang of releasing the thing
    Shot? hmmm, maybe, but I really don't look like a shot putter
    Javelin? Javelin it is. Javelin throwers look almost normal, and it looks cooler ;)
    (But also - I'm coaching under 11s and under 12s. They throw the turbo javelin, and start the real thing at under 13, so learning how to throw myself would be very useful. I might have to start the shot putt too for the same reasons...)

    So for the last few weeks I've been getting some practice in. My technique has gone from 100% ****e to about 96% ****e and 4% extremely poor - go me! When I started, every time I threw more than a couple of metres the javelin would flop on to the ground. Now my throw is perfect - run up, side step, lovely point-first landing - but is all in slow motion. Jog up, shuffle sideways, wave my arm lazily forward and see the javelin fall out of my hand. Old age and distance running have killed whatever fast twitch fibres I may once have had, so I'd be perfectly suited for a competition where you had an hour to throw as often as you like and the distances were summed, but putting everything in to four throws? Not happening.

    Anyway, arrived down in Tullamore yesterday with kid A in tow to cheerlead and a long javelin wedged in to my small car. Lovely sunny day and we sat out on the open stand with some clubmates for a while (true to club form, the four men competing that day won two medals between them, the two women won two medals each) until it was time to get the javelin weighed and measured and do some warming up. Naturally, the sun went in as soon as I arrived on the infield. Then the first raindrops started landing. Then the heavy rain started. The officials asked if we wanted to continue, we shrugged our shoulders and said yeah, but five minutes later we were in the middle of a downpour and had to be taken off the field because of the risk of lightning.

    After about ten minutes we could get under way. There were about 20 guys throwing, M35-49, and they divided into some obvious categories - a guy from Sli Culainn was throwing about 10m, me at about 15, another guy at 20 - all of us chancers :) Some guys in the 25-35 range, who looked like throwers but not javelin throwers. And then the real competition started in the 40s. Anyway, all my throws were much of a muchness - 14.58, 13.07 (lost my balance on release), 16.47, 16.07 - and then I ran off to get ready for the 5000m. I'll be back!

    (Incidentally, the top 5 finishing order was M3 48m, M3 46m M2 46m M3 42m M1 42m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    The 5000 was starting just a few minutes after my last throw in the javelin so no real warmup, but I jogged around a bit and loosened up. There were two races, first race M1 to M4, second race M5 to M10, 30 of us in the first race so a split start.
    Anyway... I was happy with how I ran BUT I didn't count the laps as I went round and when the guy on the finish line said 2 (and I got the bell on the 'last' lap) I took his word for it (not his fault, my responsibility) and I ended up finishing a lap early. There was no finish line clock, and though I had a watch I didn't look at it during the race or at the finish, only when I was walking off the track afterwards, and then I didn't know how long the race was over :( I didn't hang around after the race, but the official results just went up and I didn't run 16.56 :( so I've mailed in to have it changed to a DNF :(:(:( Next time I'll run with a set of fecking rosary beads :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Are you sure you didn't get hit by lightening before the 5000 :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    I went into it expecting to run low 18, but hadn't a clue where between 18.00 and 18.30 I'd end up. I expected there to be a clock on the finish line, and there wasn't, but someone was calling the 400m laps, and I was ahead of where I expected. Rough plan was 88/lap, first lap was just under 80 and though I stopped chasing the guy in front when I heard that, each lap seemed to be under that limit. If I'd been given a time of 17.56 I'd have believed it, the run felt easy but fast, but sub 17? :rolleyes::(
    (and to make matters worse, they had me down for bronze in my age group, so I had to contact AAI and the actual medallist this morning to let them know of the mistake)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    When I started reading I thought you'd be telling us that you somehow miraculously won a medal in the javelin!

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    only 10m short :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    That 5000 sounds mad!
    Did all the others finish the full race?

    What's the 5000 standard like at those events?Fair play on the jav!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    I can only assume I was the only eejit :o

    There were M1 to M4 running together. M1 was 14.56, 15.20, 16.00, a few more 16s, a 17.xx, and an 18.xx. M2 was two 16.xx, two 17.xxs, and an 18.xx (and me) M3 was three 16s, three 17s, an 18 and a 19, M4 was three 16s, three 17s, a 19 and a 20.
    So you'd want a sub 16 to get an M1 medal, and a sub 17 to get a medal in M2 3 or 4.

    From what I could tell of the events, it was very dependent on who turned up. In every event and every age there are some people who are very good at that event (like dna_leri), some people who are pretty good, and some people who are doing it as a second event, for fun, for the day out with clubmates, whatever. Depending on how many of the grade 1 people show up, the medals will sometimes go to grade 2 people, and sometimes even grade 3s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    tempo Tuesday again, 3.49 on the first 20, 3.54 on the second. 10/11 in the session tonight, good crowd

    (platelet donation Monday, no run)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    about 75 minutes around UCD and home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    easy 45 minutes in to work. Slow but not super slow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    just under an hour around Tymon. Usual slow start, but today for a change I took the bridge over to the other side of Tymon- don't know if it was the adrenaline boost from walking on the wild side or fumes from the meth labs, but I kept accelerating all the way, so I was running at 4.2x when I crossed back inside the M50:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Physio last night so I was feeling battered and bruisedwhen I got up this morning, but still able to walk so better than last time! Decided to stick with the planned session, 16k at marathon pace, because postponing to tomorrow would not leave recovery time before Tuesday. Easy jog up to tymon, about 2k. Really had to force myself to get going on the faster bit. The usual 4k laps around the park, most of the park run route. And speaking of Park run, they were all out - claralara bossing people around, digger on another easy pacing gig, marthastew, ministew and nordystew on a family day out ... :-)
    Pace was a bit slower than planned, 4.13 instead of 4.10, but I'm happy enough with that as a starting point, will go again in a few weeks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Repeat of Fridays run, with an extra loop around the pond to bring it closer to the hour


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    I downloaded the results while I was away and thought fair fooks and I need to get the finger out :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Just over 50 minutes home yesterday, and just over 40 slow minutes back in again this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Tempo Tuesday again, but just the one this week for the bunch of us racing Saturday. So naturally it was faster :pac: 3.48 pace for me. Then a 'cooldown' run with theboyblunder and his young apprentice, tbb visibly reining himself in :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    about 75 minutes home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭dukeraoul


    RayCun wrote: »
    tbb visibly reining himself in :pac:

    He'd wanna rest up for Saturday thats for sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    45 minutes in to work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    just a short and easy one, about 35 minutes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Got a lift in this morning from theboyblunder with some clubmates in the Sistersmobile. (We played Allanis Morrissette, talked about our feelings and had a bit of a cry and a hug.) (Actually it was a white-knuckle ride of daredevil driving - ending with tears of shock and hugs to reassure ourselves we were still alive) We needed to get over the journey, but luckily we had plenty of time during the walk from the car to settle down.
    Met up with some more clubmates for a while then went off for a warmup. Well, I did half a warmup and got lazy, went into the (completely empty) pen to get a good spot before any of the Tallaght athletes arrived. Sure enough, just as I was getting comfy, DrRaoulMills showed up :rolleyes: We did consider boxing him in for the race but the poor guy was all on his lonesome so we let him go.
    Off we went eventually. A little too fast at the start, 3.48, 3.49, but slowed down as we passed the zoo. I had AuldManKing just in front as my personal pacer anyway :). Everyone got over the first mad rush on North Road, so I had to start moving forward and pass AK, though I could hear from the MSB shouts he wasn't far behind. The wind was a bit of a pain on the exposed section of North Road. I put in a burst to catch up with a group in front but they weren't much shelter, so I resigned myself to dropping some time here but determined to use the wind at my back on Chesterfield. That was a nice stretch, between the slight downhill, the wind, and the surface, so I was back on track at the halfway mark (exactly 31?)
    Kept working the rest of the way down, got into a mini-race with a guy from Raheny from the embassy all the way out the gate, which kept us both honest. Slightly ahead of pace here, but that was the plan.
    Didn't expect the wind on the road outside, that was a pain in the arse, so I was working more than I'd like on that stretch, and that was before the Hill of Doom :eek:
    Luckily I had a couple of people ahead of me on the hill, a clubmate and a guy from Sportsworld. The hill itself isn't so bad (but still 4.06 and 4.07 for that stretch, by far my slowest), but in the 5 mile I felt I had nothing left after it. Today I had a couple of targets and I was able to pick up the pace again off the top and go past people. Turned onto Furze Road just as a spectator was telling her friend that it was a killer because it seems to go on for ever :rolleyes: but was ale to keep pushing and picked up a few more places in a 'sprint' at the end.

    62.30 gun time, 62.25 chip (183/184) 24th M40 3.53/km pace overall
    (and the team ended up with an average of 60.0x I think, so not bad)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Well done Ray, nicely run.

    Must try some of those "35 mins into work" sessions, they seem to be paying off :)

    TbL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Nice going Ray, well run. No shortage of testosterone there. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Really well done, ray. Great racing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Nicely done Ray, that's a great result. Good to see you getting back into shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    easy 10k around Tymon this morning - very slow to start, took about 20 minutes to warmup. Then 30 minutes break before heading out again to help with the kids XC training, another 3 or 4k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Just under an hour home from work. Nice weather for ducks :) but also running. Might have been a problem on a long run, but for an hour it was nice and cool and fresh. dripping with rainwater rather than sweat when I got home :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    just a 40 minute jog into work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    no time for updates...

    Tempo Tuesday I was late getting out to the group - foisting off my kids on other coaches so I could run :) Missed the start of the first tempo, so it was just under 5k, 3.51 pace. Second run I was feeling the effects of the weekend, and set off way too fast at first so I was fading badly, but another guy caught up and we pushed ourselves on, 3.53 for the second tempo was better than it should have been.
    Wednesday I was out for a work dinner so couldn't do my medium run, just two laps of UCD. The dragon that attacked AMK had migrated south, took a lump out of my leg on the second lap, but I managed to limp to safety...
    Thursday a very easy jog in to work, and some running with the kids in the evening
    Friday, my last Friday off of the summer :( Tymoned a while as usual
    Was feeling quite tired yesterday, and was out for a few drinks last night, so this morning I just rolled over and got some more sleep :eek:
    Will pay for it tomorrow when I have to do XC training with the kids soon after a long run....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Just over two hours for the long run -up to Phoenix park, in Islandbridge, up Military and across to the glen, then switched to the trails for a while. Grand run, but I'd rather have recovered by putting my feet up for a while rather than going out for a run with the kids :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Month|2010|2011|2012|2013|2014
    January|38.8|105.61|187.46|257.13|202.59
    February|35.5|106.68|191.79|212.8|217.1
    March|53.2|121.83|214|45.93|249.45
    April|72|106.33|201.18|51|150.36
    May|75.9|107.13|175.21|41.9|123.51
    June|90.2|64.85|150.09|89.72|150?
    July|118.1|126.92|242.21|147.92|200?
    August|124.4|168|240.27|173.96|227.51
    September|154|171.75|203.69|178.55|
    October|108.7|191.2|229|196.88|
    November|58.4|128.9|283.87|208.34|
    December|83|166.58|285|233.23|
    Total|1012.2|1578.1|2604|1837.3|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    bloody hell, haven't updated in ages...
    Monday just a 50 minutes run home from work
    Tuesday, recovery run in the morning, tempo in the evening, 3.49 and 3.54, but I felt knackered
    Wednesday, lap of UCD and home, 16k total
    Thursday, 50 minutes in to work again, then a few k running with the kids in the evening
    Friday, up at 6am :( for 10k around Tymon
    and today, Tymon again, this time for an MP run. 4 laps of Tymon - 16k - at 4.06 average pace. That's 2/3 seconds faster than I expect to be able to hold next month, but close enough. Plan is long run next week, then Dublin half, another long run,and then a longer PMP run in early October (since Captain Meany won't let me run the Novices:() before tapering down.
    Supposed to spend the day sitting on the couch, with just a quick trip to Dundrum so the kid could get Di Maria on his top. Elverys machine was broken. No problem, Lifestyle have a machine too. And yes, it works! But they have no As left. But Elverys can sell us a letter so up we go again! But guess what - no As left there either. So then we gave up and got ice-cream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    It's all Falcao's fault.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    grrrr, very irritating week

    Monday was a scheduled day off, platelet donation. Platelet levels well down on usual, BP up to 130/70 instead of normal 120/60. Hmmmm
    Tuesday - stomach bug, felt like complete ****
    Wednesday - still wiped out
    Yesterday - running home, within a couple of steps my right thigh was sore (and again when training the kids that evening)
    This morning - jog into work, still sore :(:mad:

    Don't think its an injury as such - I haven't had a chance to get injured - more a reaction to the couple of days without food/being run down. Pain in the arse though because I had planned to go for a long run tomorrow and that's not going to happen now, and Sunday I have the kids XC in the morning so if I can fit in a long run it will be afternoon/evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    no run yesterday, gave it a rest
    kids XC this morning, bus over to Balbriggan and back, so it was 3 o'clock :eek: before I got out for my run. And it isn't even the last Sunday in January!
    Got intoa rhythm sooner than I expected, and the kms ticked by - same as last time, up to the park, through the hilly southern section, onto the trails by farmleigh, around the zoo, back up chesterfield, back through the hills and home. Weird running through the park at that time. There was a gang of families having barbecues by the knockmaroon gate, and loads of people around farmleigh and chesterfield. Watch battery crapped out on the way through the memorial gardens, but total run was close to 2.5 hours. The last few miles were tough, and I'm wrecked now, but that makes me more glad I got it done - I don't have enough long runs under my belt and I really felt that today. It was weird actually, after about 1.40 or 1.50 I was really feeling the distance, before realising wtf, sure I've only run a half marathon, that's not even long :confused::o Anyway, ticked off now, no persistent pain in my thigh, just the usual "oh, now my thigh is sore.... mow its my knees.... now my achilles.... now my feet... now I'm just ****ing tired..." :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    50 minutes home from work yesterday, tired at the start and thought it would be a tough one but relaxed into it after a couple of k
    slow jog into work this morning. Still feeling my thigh a bit, but should be ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    tempo Tuesday, step up yesterday to 25+20 minutes, didn't bother me because I was only doing one :) 3.51 pace for the 25 minutes. If I can manage that on Saturday I'll be laughing, sure its only an extra hour :pac:
    80 minutes round UCD and home again today
    Thigh/groin still a bit sore on and off. Don't think its slowing me down, but I could be wrong, and it could be a different story after an hour at race pace. Couple of very easy days now, will see how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    easy 45 back in to work yesterday, and up early for a very easy 30 minute loosener this morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭theboyblunder


    Good luck tomorrow ray.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Have fun Ray!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    :)

    Fair play man great running today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    fecking technology, and me for being a slave to it :rolleyes:
    garmin didn't get a signal until almost two miles in, and it was another mile before it gave me real readings, so I spent the first half of the race wondering how fast I was going. Second half I knew I was in more or less the right group and the right pace, but 30 seconds up or down? No idea. :rolleyes:
    things worked out okay anyway, 1.23.04 chip time, that'll do on that course, think I'd take a good 30 seconds off on something flatter, or if had pacing information:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    I spotted you as you were about to turn onto chesterfield ave at mile 7.5. You were running strong at that stage. Well done on the finish time!


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