Occupy Galway, fresh start thread

crusher000 · 16-05-2012 12:58pm

kippy wrote: »

Ah right, thats about the 3rd reason (on this post alone) I have seen for their protesting.
So what was their alternative? Camping in public squares?

If you want to know for sure go down and ask them. Oh that's right, you can't,they were moved away democratically by our local elected represntatives. Ah well we may never know now. I'll get back in line and walk of the cliff edge with thr rest of ye whom want the whole world to comply. Over one million Greeks on ration books so I'll wait until we get the same treatment and I can lie back with my one potatoe in my hand with a wry smirk and say didn't we tell you all. Oh it won't happen here cause the Greeks never saw it coming either.

kippy · 16-05-2012 1:03pm

crusher000 wrote: »

If you want to know for sure go down and ask them. Oh that's right, you can't,they were moved away democratically by our local elected represntatives. Ah well we may never know now. I'll get back in line and walk of the cliff edge with thr rest of ye whom want the whole world to comply. Over one million Greeks on ration books so I'll wait until we get the same treatment and I can lie back with my one potatoe in my hand with a wry smirk and say didn't we tell you all. Oh it won't happen here cause the Greeks never saw it coming either.

I have read the literature that they and those in Dublin had, as well as interacted with them on this type of forum. I never got a sense of what they stood for or what their alternatives were to be honest.

You told us what, we are going the way of the Greeks. Lots of people are telling us that tbh, including some leading economists.

squonk · 16-05-2012 1:05pm

Back in September/October we were facing new taxes for water and households. Our public purse was in a terrible state and huge cutbacks were coming. The Euro was looking shaky and bankers responsible for the crisis here were walking around like they owned the place without a fear in the world of legal action or jail time. Then Occupy Galway happened.

Now in May we are having new taxes for water and households levied. Our public purse is in a terrible state and huge cutbacks are already made and more are coming. The Euro is looking shaky and bankers responsible for the crisis here are walking around like they owned the place without a fear in the world of legal action or jail time.

So, after 215 days, what have OG done? If something isn't working you stop it. That's what the council and the gardai have done. Galway is a tourist city and the the town and it's hinterland benefits greatly from the influx of tourists. Rightly or wrongly having a scruffy looking camp in the main square is not presenting the city in the best light. The fact that the people running the camp were achieving nothing at this stage is more of a case for shutting it down.

ben.schlomo · 16-05-2012 1:09pm

Irishgoatman wrote: »

I certainly agree with a lot of what you're saying, but did it really alienate the general public?.
I'm not sure that it did. I never heard of people protesting in the square against the camp, did you?:).

Dont think an anti protest movement is a realistic showing of their lack of support now do you? The fact that they seemingly werent open before 10am for me alienated and annoyed any working person going about there business. Plus the lack of coherent arguments in favour of whatever they stood for certainly didnt add to the numbers joining their ranks.

Robbo · 16-05-2012 1:11pm

biko wrote: »

I wonder what excuse they used so then can remove the OG. Only 2 months ago the Garda said there was no legal ground for removing them.

Back OT, the Garda interviewed on Morning Ireland mentioned the Public Order Act (which Act and provision was left unsaid). The person arrested was Section 19, so obstructing an officer. They were later released, unclear as to whether this is on a charge sheet or not.

To my mind, maybe Housing (Misc Provisions) Act of 2002 was invoked, namely Section 24 which amends the Public Order Act (1994) and is broad enough to cover the actions of the Occupy Camp.

ben.schlomo · 16-05-2012 1:12pm

crusher000 wrote: »

If you want to know for sure go down and ask them. Oh that's right, you can't,they were moved away democratically by our local elected represntatives. Ah well we may never know now. I'll get back in line and walk of the cliff edge with thr rest of ye whom want the whole world to comply. Over one million Greeks on ration books so I'll wait until we get the same treatment and I can lie back with my one potatoe in my hand with a wry smirk and say didn't we tell you all. Oh it won't happen here cause the Greeks never saw it coming either.

I dare say if they were camped there another 215 days we still would be none the wiser regarding their aims.

Dan_Solo · 16-05-2012 1:12pm

squonk wrote: »

So, after 215 days, what have OG done? If something isn't working you stop it. That's what the council and the gardai have done. Galway is a tourist city and the the town and it's hinterland benefits greatly from the influx of tourists. Rightly or wrongly having a scruffy looking camp in the main square is not presenting the city in the best light. The fact that the people running the camp were achieving nothing at this stage is more of a case for shutting it down.

Scatty and all as they were, you can't really blame OG for not breaking the FF/FG/Lab stranglehold on calamatous Irish economic policy surely? You complain about their crappy little camp being their at all while at the same time expecting they should have done what, buy in some AKMs and RPGs from Mali and start picking off politicians?:rolleyes:

Dan_Solo · 16-05-2012 1:14pm

Robbo wrote: »

Back OT, the Garda interviewed on Morning Ireland mentioned the Public Order Act (which Act and provision was left unsaid). The person arrested was Section 19, so obstructing an officer. They were later released, unclear as to whether this is on a charge sheet or not.

To my mind, maybe Housing (Misc Provisions) Act of 2002 was invoked, namely Section 24 which amends the Public Order Act (1994) and is broad enough to cover the actions of the Occupy Camp.

No problem with any of this. But can anyone find out since when Galway Council decides when and which laws are enforced?

Mrs OBumble · 16-05-2012 1:31pm

kippy wrote: »

There's a lot of stuff out there that we never paid for before, but we have to now.

Name some ....

crusher000 · 16-05-2012 1:33pm

In fairness if the camp is an eyesore the city council have been turning a blind eye to alot more eyesores around the city. Could this be their campaign to make Galway Tidy that's unless they're the landlords of some of the citys eyesores.

kippy · 16-05-2012 1:38pm

JustMary wrote: »

Name some ....

Houses, Land, Food, Water, etc etc

squonk · 16-05-2012 1:46pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Scatty and all as they were, you can't really blame OG for not breaking the FF/FG/Lab stranglehold on calamatous Irish economic policy surely? You complain about their crappy little camp being their at all while at the same time expecting they should have done what, buy in some AKMs and RPGs from Mali and start picking off politicians?:rolleyes:

What would you suggest they do? Continue to squat? I don't know what you're rolling your eyes for because they were doing nothing and were going nowhere. They had no readily definable protest points and seemingly no definable plan of action other than sitting in their tents.

Here's what I suggest they should have done. Create one or, at most two definable protest points to the exclusion of ALL other grievances of the collected members.

e.g.

1. Prompt and verifiable action to bring those responsible for the current financial crisis to prosecution and imprisonment if found guilty
2. Demand the government take a harder line on EU bailout negotiations

Those are two examples. If they'd done that they might have enjoyed more popular support and might even be a lot of the way towards becoming a strong political movement. They didn't however and now they're gone.

So, Dan, given that you're attacking my stance on berating those who've done nothing but sit in tents for seven months, I'm sure you'll be able to list off in rapid order the verifiable goals they did have and their successes in achieving those goals. Once we all see that no doubt we'll all change out tune and lament the fact they've gone.

mallachyrivers · 16-05-2012 2:04pm

MadYaker wrote: »

Im honestly not bothered by their presence in the square and I have no desire to see them removed. From the beginning I said their protest or occupation or whatever you want to call it was pointless and would achieve nothing, I think this has been shown to be true.

Can anyone knowledgeable in law please clarify for us if setting up a camp like that in a place like eyre square is illegal or not? I've heard equal numbers of people saying it is and it isn't.

Well it is and it isn't!

specialops · 16-05-2012 2:09pm

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Things that should never have been free in the first place such as water you mean. Every other developed nation charges for water, so should we.

As for O.G, glad they are gone, they served no real purpose and were never going to achieve anything meaningful, if you applied the product life cycle to them id have said they reached decline long before Xmas.By all means protest but in a more realistic fashion, sitting in a large compound doing nothing all day is simply going to bring criticism ,such as they get here, onto themselves.

On another point, i see the GA facebook put a link up to pdineens pics from the camp taken on Tuesday, good god it looked manky inside, and they were cooking in these conditions.

Myself and a friend called in, curious and with an open mind, last month, yeah it was manky, not to mention only two of them there who didnt' have a clue what they were on about.
We were asked by an english woman (moaning about Ireland we asked why was she living here) did we want a cuppa, she was spouting pure nonsense and kept contradicting herself, dear god we valued our health too much and legged it

Tym · 16-05-2012 2:25pm

Houses, Land, Food, Water, etc etc

Oh the glory days, of free food and housing...not to mention the free contaminated water.

scholar007 · 16-05-2012 2:25pm

crusher000 wrote: »

If you want to know for sure go down and ask them. Oh that's right, you can't,they were moved away democratically by our local elected represntatives. Ah well we may never know now. I'll get back in line and walk of the cliff edge with thr rest of ye whom want the whole world to comply. Over one million Greeks on ration books so I'll wait until we get the same treatment and I can lie back with my one potatoe in my hand with a wry smirk and say didn't we tell you all. Oh it won't happen here cause the Greeks never saw it coming either.

At least the Greeks have sunshine, I think I could handle being poor in the sunshine. No money but at least you could still go to the beach and the vino is really cheap over there. It wouldn't be too bad. I don't know why the Greeks are in the streets protesting, they should all head off to the beach.

Tym · 16-05-2012 2:27pm

Oh btw I noticed someone mentioned pictures on a GA Facebook? What does that stand for?

kippy · 16-05-2012 2:30pm

Tym wrote: »

Oh btw I noticed someone mentioned pictures on a GA Facebook? What does that stand for?

Galway Advertiser.

kippy · 16-05-2012 2:30pm

Tym wrote: »

Oh the glory days, of free food and housing...not to mention the free contaminated water.

We got all those for "free" at some point in time.

16-05-2012 2:33pm

They were referring to the Galway Advertiser Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/GalwayAdvertiser

Robbo · 16-05-2012 2:43pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

No problem with any of this. But can anyone find out since when Galway Council decides when and which laws are enforced?

Speculation on my part, but the Council would most likely have title to the land Occupy were on. They are then free to make a complaint to the Gardai which the Gardai may act upon.

scholar007 · 16-05-2012 3:12pm

All messing and joking aside (well for 5 minutes anyway)

So now they are gone, how did it actually work?
Were the same people there all the time?
Were they transient? i.e. Did they move from one protest to another around the country like a rent a mob?
Did they operate a shift system?
What did they do if they needed the jacks at say 5am in the morning and everywhere was shut?
Did they really have between 300 and 400 pallets on the site?
What exactly did they do all day?
Was their real purpose to form a social grouping of societal outcasts whose raison d'etre and common bond is to rebel against society? Did they really feel like they "belonged" for the first time in their lives and if so what will happen to them now?

biko · 16-05-2012 3:49pm

scholar007 wrote: »

Was their real purpose to form a social grouping of societal outcasts whose raison d'etre and common bond is to rebel against society? Did they really feel like they "belonged" for the first time in their lives and if so what will happen to them now?

For someone who doesn't know them it seems to me you have a pretty clear presumption of them.
Or is this how you picture anyone who takes part in protest movements?

specialops · 16-05-2012 3:52pm

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

I'm wondering why the thread was re-opened at all.

Seems a bit pointless like the 'protest'

It seems obvious from reading through this thread that the modding is biased in favour of the now defunct camp.

why is this?

scholar007 · 16-05-2012 3:54pm

biko wrote: »

For someone who doesn't know them it seems to me you have a pretty clear presumption of them.
Or is this how you picture anyone who takes part in protest movements?

No I did a bit of protesting in my student days as you do. But at the end of the day you need to get a life and move on and get a job - Fairly normal things. I suppose what Im trying to get a handle on is were they "full-time protestors" so to speak and will they just move on to the next cause? Seriously it is a bit sad to be sitting in a shack in Eyre square for the last 7 months.

Robbo · 16-05-2012 3:59pm

I passed by at lunchtime when their assembly was on. Sure enough, Conneely rocked up and couldn't have made a better pantomime villain if he was wearing a cape, top hat and twirling his moustache.

biko · 16-05-2012 4:03pm

scholar007 wrote: »

No I did a bit of protesting in my student days as you do. But at the end of the day you need to get a life and move on and get a job - Fairly normal things. I suppose what Im trying to get a handle on is were they "full-time protestors" so to speak and will they just move on to the next cause? Seriously it is a bit sad to be sitting in a shack in Eyre square for the last 7 months.

I do understand you but on the other hand they aren't causing any other trouble than being an eyesore for certain [middle class] people that want Eyre Square void of protesters.
And in my view, they show the council and the bankers that some people aren't just writing angry posts on the internet.
Some people are willing to put up with rain and cold for months to show their dismay at how the current and past establishment have ****ed us over. They should be lauded, not denigrated.

snubbleste · 16-05-2012 4:04pm

Conneely's going to be crowing about his 'victory' for decades to come.

scholar007 · 16-05-2012 4:06pm

biko wrote: »

I do understand you but on the other hand they aren't causing any other trouble than being an eyesore for certain [middle class] people that want Eyre Square void of protesters.
And in my view, they show the council and the bankers that some people aren't just writing angry posts on the internet.
Some people are willing to put up with rain and cold for months to show their dismay at how the current and past establishment have ****ed us over. They should be lauded, not denigrated.

Praise where its due of course but what exactly have they achieved if anything at all?

biko · 16-05-2012 4:08pm

I don't think they achieved much at all, at least that I know of - see my previous post on how they were too scattered and all encompassing to achieve anything.

But a risk with ejecting them is that it polarises the debate, forcing the sides wider apart instead of letting them engage in peaceful debate. The local politicians are not doing themselves any favours and tbh a lot of them are already held in very low regard.

WallyGUFC · 16-05-2012 4:14pm

biko wrote: »

I do understand you but on the other hand they aren't causing any other trouble than being an eyesore for certain [middle class] people that want Eyre Square void of protesters.
And in my view, they show the council and the bankers that some people aren't just writing angry posts on the internet.
Some people are willing to put up with rain and cold for months to show their dismay at how the current and past establishment have ****ed us over. They should be lauded, not denigrated.

Lauded? You cannot be serious. What is so great about sitting in the square for 7 months, in tents, some of them claiming dole and not actively seeking work? They wern't protesting, they were literally just camping there. How much space in Eyre Square did they take up? This was space that the general public couldn't use for a whole 7 months. The fact that only 6/7 were there when the Gardaí rightly dismantled it shows how much of a farce and a joke it had become. Would travellers be allowed keep caravans there for 7 months? Would I be allowed camp there for 7 months on my own? Job well done by the council and the Gardaí, better late than never.

Dan_Solo · 16-05-2012 4:22pm

squonk wrote: »

So, Dan, given that you're attacking my stance on berating those who've done nothing but sit in tents for seven months, I'm sure you'll be able to list off in rapid order the verifiable goals they did have and their successes in achieving those goals. Once we all see that no doubt we'll all change out tune and lament the fact they've gone.

I'm equally sure you'll be able to rattle off a list of things they could have done instead of camping in Eyre Square that'd stop our government borrowing €100 billion to pay off collapsed private sector banks and developers.
They might have just sat around being an eyesore with a load of homemade placards, but I'm pretty sure that's 100 times more than you've done.

Wompa1 · 16-05-2012 4:24pm

biko wrote: »

I do understand you but on the other hand they aren't causing any other trouble than being an eyesore for certain [middle class] people that want Eyre Square void of protesters.
And in my view, they show the council and the bankers that some people aren't just writing angry posts on the internet.
Some people are willing to put up with rain and cold for months to show their dismay at how the current and past establishment have ****ed us over. They should be lauded, not denigrated.

I faced the cold, wind and rain for years on my way to work. Nobody lauds over me

Also I just left Ireland and could have claimed all of my tax back for the last few months I was there and didn't because I thought I could do without it and the country needed it more than I did. No need to laud over me, I'm no hero...I just do what I do :rolleyes:

Dan_Solo · 16-05-2012 4:25pm

Robbo wrote: »

Speculation on my part, but the Council would most likely have title to the land Occupy were on. They are then free to make a complaint to the Gardai which the Gardai may act upon.

Fair enough, maybe that's what happened.
Is that what the council actually voted on, and if so why didn't they do this months ago? They've been moaning about OG all that time and couldn't be bothered to move them until the Volvo turns up?

Wompa1 · 16-05-2012 4:27pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Fair enough, maybe that's what happened.
Is that what the council actually voted on, and if so why didn't they do this months ago? They've been moaning about OG all that time and couldn't be bothered to move them until the Volvo turns up?

I could be wrong here but I thought the reason they were willing to act now was because the business owners in Eyre Square had requested the camp be moved before the VOR?

Red_Wake · 16-05-2012 4:30pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'm equally sure you'll be able to rattle off a list of things they could have done instead of camping in Eyre Square that'd stop our government borrowing €100 billion to pay off collapsed private sector banks and developers.
They might have just sat around being an eyesore with a load of homemade placards, but I'm pretty sure that's 100 times more than you've done.

Paying tax to help country >>>>>>>> camping out in the rain

Lockstep · 16-05-2012 4:36pm

Was passing through Eyre Square at 5am and was turned away as the Gardai were out in force and blocking it to civilians.

Surprising stuff although seeing Conneely's odious mug plastered around didn't help my thoughts on the matter.

I don't consider OG as having achieved anything but they didn't particularly bother me.

c_man · 16-05-2012 4:36pm

biko wrote: »

The local politicians are not doing themselves any favours and tbh a lot of them are already held in very low regard.

More of a mandate than the squatters tbh.

tightropetom · 16-05-2012 4:38pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'm equally sure you'll be able to rattle off a list of things they could have done instead of camping in Eyre Square that'd stop our government borrowing €100 billion to pay off collapsed private sector banks and developers.
They might have just sat around being an eyesore with a load of homemade placards, but I'm pretty sure that's 100 times more than you've done.

He probably paid tax, helping reduce government debt... Just a thought :rolleyes:

mapaco · 16-05-2012 4:42pm

i agree with their sentiment but they werent protesting, they were camping.
an eyesore yes, but they weren't particularly in the way or interfering with the bankers/councillors/whoever they're annoyed about-which is what a protest should be???

theres been alot of protests in the last few years-and rightly so-i'm all for it and have been involved in a few sparsely attended ones BUT the only way they succeed is with numbers-7 people isnt a protest.
the only protest that worked is the medical card OAP one as far as i can see-because of the strength of numbers.

if the VOR or the Races werent on this year-most likely they would have been left in their camp.
a proper protest would have ruffled the right feathers and attempts to remove them would have been numerous.....

squonk · 16-05-2012 4:50pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'm equally sure you'll be able to rattle off a list of things they could have done instead of camping in Eyre Square that'd stop our government borrowing €100 billion to pay off collapsed private sector banks and developers.

I could but I'd rather you address the question I asked you and which you have still not even attempted to answer, namely what were their goals as a protest group and how many of those goals were achieved?

Dan_Solo wrote: »

They might have just sat around being an eyesore with a load of homemade placards, but I'm pretty sure that's 100 times more than you've done.

I think you'll find that the tax I paid as a (luckilly) employed citizen enabled them to 'sit around being an eyesore'. I have my own personal causes that I am hoping to advance and I've done so by engaging with my political representatives when needs be. In any case, you don't know what campaigns I've been involved in or what I've done so you're being a bit presumptuous. Some of us manage to hold down work and do our bit for our country at the same time. In the end I may not have achieved much thus far in any of my campaigns but neither have OG except that in the meantime I've paid tax and public resources were not wasted moving me and cleaning up the mess I've made.

antoobrien · 16-05-2012 5:48pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'm equally sure you'll be able to rattle off a list of things they could have done instead of camping in Eyre Square that'd stop our government borrowing €100 billion to pay off collapsed private sector banks and developers.

This kind of rubbish is what I detest about o.g. and the kind of rather gullible people that fall for their propaganda. It's only a pity that their lies won't die with the camp.

The Irish government have not borrowed or paid out anywhere close to €100 billion to banks or developers .

The money paid by NAMA (€30 bln) was paid to banks to buy loans - developers haven't got a cent of that.

The government have put approx €20 billion (including promissory notes) into the banks.

The government have promised to cover up to €62.5 billion in bad debts, through the stress tests - a figure they won't reach due to BOIs capital raising activities - including the promissory notes to be paid to IBRC.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way.

Galwayguy35 · 16-05-2012 5:54pm

KittyeeTrix wrote: »

I was kinda busy myself working the past 5 years towards a degree for which I completed my last exam Friday gone so I'm not hugely up to date with world finances and all that jazz. But I do know it's ever so difficult to get a job in the midst of financial/economical breakdown.

These guys were just making a stand and for that I applaud them. I don't have a problem with them being moved on with regards to the aspects of the law but I do have a problem with the attitude of some people towards them.
I've been reading posts here and on FaceBook where people have called them all sorts of names and I cannot stand that sort of thing. By all means, disagree with their stance but do not start shouting about them getting the jobs that aren't there.

Bit off topic here as well but I'm gonna put it out there......43 of us just finished science (microbiology) degrees last week and already we've seen the difficulty in getting these jobs you've mentioned. One of the girls even showed me a job advert for a graduate Micro position needing 1-2 years experience!!! Where are these jobs?? I and many others in Galway would really love to know

You have to take any job that's going in a recession. People can't afford to be choosey these days.
As regards OG I think it's a reasonable question to ask were they working or how could they afford to sit in a tent for 7 months with no job.

Tym · 16-05-2012 6:02pm

It seems obvious from reading through this thread that the modding is biased in favour of the now defunct camp.

Yeah, that's quite apparent.

And since another poster mentioned propaganda, i'm just going to mention the rise in very, very propaganderish posters plastered around Galway. Seems to want people to unite without actually telling them what they're uniting against or under. I just think it's very simple to protest against taxes in the current climate and say they represent the 99%, when in fact they represent a group of the 99%. Which a lot of these middle class people in Ireland are part of the 99%.
Just to clarify, the posters I mentioned are The Socialist Party and the United Left Alliance posters, but they did multiply with the Occupy movement and it starts to dribble down into the occupy movement.

Tym · 16-05-2012 6:03pm

You have to take any job that's going in a recession. People can't afford to be choosey these days.
As regards OG I think it's a reasonable question to ask were they working or how could they afford to sit in a tent for 7 months with no job.

Yeah I'm curious about that as well.

KittyeeTrix · 16-05-2012 6:08pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You have to take any job that's going in a recession. People can't afford to be choosey these days.
As regards OG I think it's a reasonable question to ask were they working or how could they afford to sit in a tent for 7 months with no job.

Not pointing this directly at you Galwayguy35 but feck it...................You've not been the first person to make this comment and excuse me if I might respond!!!!

Did I at any point say in any of my posts here that I expected in the middle of a bloody recession to get the exact job I wanted......

NO, I DID NOT.............:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I did say that it was so disappointing to respond to graduate offers and to be told they now need 1-2 yrs experience:(

I don't think being a little pi$$ed off at that is a bad thing or am I supposed to smile my feckin head off at it??

This was my original post btw..

Bit off topic here as well but I'm gonna put it out there......43 of us just finished science (microbiology) degrees last week and already we've seen the difficulty in getting these jobs you've mentioned. One of the girls even showed me a job advert for a graduate Micro position needing 1-2 years experience!!! Where are these jobs?? I and many others in Galway would really love to know

Galwayguy35 · 16-05-2012 6:14pm

KittyeeTrix wrote: »

Not pointing this directly at you Galwayguy35 but feck it...................You've not been the first person to make this comment and excuse me if I might respond!!!!

Did I at any point say in any of my posts here that I expected in the middle of a bloody recession to get the exact job I wanted......

NO, I DID NOT.............:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I did say that it was so disappointing to respond to graduate offers and to be told they now need 1-2 yrs experience:(

I don't think being a little pi$$ed off at that is a bad thing or am I supposed to smile my feckin head off at it??

Yes it's disappointing but that's the reality I'm afraid. Things will only get worse I think.

KittyeeTrix · 16-05-2012 6:22pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yes it's disappointing but that's the reality I'm afraid. Things will only get worse I think.

I know and forgive me for the rant but it's been a tough few weeks and now at the end of it - it feels like it was all for nothing, ya know!!:(

They probably will get worse unfortunately

gordongekko · 16-05-2012 6:27pm

KittyeeTrix wrote: »

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yes it's disappointing but that's the reality I'm afraid. Things will only get worse I think.

I know and forgive me for the rant but it's been a tough few weeks and now at the end of it - it feels like it was all for nothing, ya know!!:(

what did you hope to achieve?

Lapin · 16-05-2012 6:28pm

Just wondering what exactly was achived by the Occupy Galway campaign over the last 7 months ?

I never had anything against them, but I can't see any results for their efforts, apart from giving Cllr Paraic Conneelly an opportunity the get his mug on the news. Again.

What has changed?

Occupy Galway, fresh start thread

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