The Sunday Game Thread

Amprodude wrote: »

Eamonn o Hara speaks the most on the Panel and acts as if hes the real expect. What did he win again playing football? Hes all talk but didnt do much in his playing career.

And then you have Pat Spillane who won everything and talks Shi'ite.

You don't have to win to know more.

Amprodude wrote: »

Eamonn o Hara speaks the most on the Panel and acts as if hes the real expect. What did he win again playing football? Hes all talk but didnt do much in his playing career.

Are you being serious? He was one of the best midfielders in the country for over a decade. It's hardly his fault he's from Sligo. He even managed to drag them to a Connaught title.

By the 'what have you won' logic not many people would be allowed have an opinion.

Say Your Number wrote: »

He's from a weaker county, do you expect him to win an All-Ireland all by himself? Whelan and Early have the same amount of All-Irelands

Whelan and Early were far superior players.

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

What have you won? you're never short of an opinion anyway so you must have a few all Irelands in both codes.

Its a free website. Im not paid to give an opinion. You arent short of an opinion yourself.

Neeson wrote: »

It takes a team of good players to win. But Eamon didn't have many around him. Pat did.

Pat was also a better player than O Hara and so good that all the other Kerry forwards gelled together in perfect harmony.

tenbob1 wrote: »

and he was a pretty good football player.

Define a good football player to me?
If you ask me I say Gooch, Canavan,DOS, JOD, Maurice Fitz, Trevor Giles, Kieran McDonald, Michael Murphy, P.Joyce. B Brogan, D Connolly. Colm o Neill to name a few past and present.. O Hara isnt in that catergory.

Loads of snobs around tonight.

There are plenty of former players with loads of Celtic crosses in their back pockets, who talk utter rubbish and are brutal on the telly/radio or in print. Being good on the pitch does not mean that you will be a good pundit off it. They regularly get shown up as bluffers by players who won little as they played for a weak county & by journalists who never played the games at all & won eff all.

It is snobbery plain and simple to dismiss someones opinion, just because he doesn't have a bellyful of AI medals. How many All Ireland medals did Micheal O'Muircheartaigh win? I'd love to see some one march up to him & tell him to shut up because he never won anything. :rolleyes:

SeanJ09 wrote: »

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I wonder how many times people questioning his playing ability actually saw him play?

I suppose a lot of those would not consider the likes of Gary Brennan, Emelyn Mulligan, Brendan Murphy or Paddy Keenan great players either because they have never got the chance to win things?

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

They were better than him though. It's not wrong at all.

That's your opinion. I've seen him play several times on TV, live, and I've played against him. I'm not saying he's the best player ever, but in terms of individual talent and leadership of a team, he is a great player, and should be lauded in equal fashion as the other players named.

If you had seen him play as regular as you have seen the others play, then I think you would agree. If you have seen him play regularly, and you still don't think he is as good as the others, then of course you're entitled to your opinion on it.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

NFL game won't happen given that London is holding three of them - the NFL have made it their base at the moment, and its going well. If Ireland can get regular college football, they will be doing well I think

Not having Rooney as the ambassador doesn't help either.

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Winning loads and being a good pundit don't necessarily go hand in hand. Just because someone is capable on the field, doesn't mean that they're going to be particularly good at explaining how it all works and breaking it down for the viewer. Punditry requires a level of articulation that not every great player is going to have.

Then, of course, you have your journalists who have won sweet fcuk all giving their opinions on GAA day in day out in national and local newspapers. What about Marty Morrissey or Darragh Maloney? I suppose their opinions are null and void too.

And you were doing oh so well, up until then....:eek:

Ah no, I agree. I said pretty much the same thing a page or two ago. I just used Micheal O'Muircheartaigh as my example, instead of the bould Marty.

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Aye I'm taking the pish there but it's probably fair to say not all of these lads will make the NFL? Also hear it isn't selling well at the moment?

I'm not surprised the tickets aren't selling well. I made the mistake of staying up to watch the Superbowl a few years back. The last ten minutes took about an hour to play. Mind-numbingly boring shyte. To think that the GAA have jettisoned our native game to host that rubbish truly beggars belief.

At this particular moment, the words of the great prophetess and sage, Jessie J, come to mind......

It seems like everybody's got a price
I wonder how they sleep at night
When the sale comes first and the truth comes
second
Just stop for a minute and smile.........

ProudDUB wrote: »

That is a wee bit reactionary & close minded, no? Lots of Americans think that soccer is about as interesting as watching paint dry, as pretty much eff all happens for 90 minutes. Each to his own and all that. If the GAA can make a few bob out of renting out Croke Park to "foreign" games, then fair play to them. That money will trickle down to players and clubs eventually & that is what matters imo.

So what if the native Irish aren't going to go the Croke Park Classic? We are not their target market. The thousands of Yanks who are coming from the US are. As long as the All Ireland series is not overly impacted by "foreign" games that are played in Croke Park, I couldn't care less what goes on there. But once it does, its time to have a serious rethink. That is why I was very glad to see Liam O'Neill declare today that no more American football games will be played there in July or August. By all means, bring them back next year, but do it Oct-December when nothing else is going on at Croker.

The fact that the GAA were prepared to host this rubbish during the most important time of the Championship year says plenty about their money grabbing philosophy.
It should not be forgotten that the GAA received millions from the Irish taxpayer towards the structural development of Croke Park, to promote Gaelic games; not to promote American Football and not to promote Gareth Brukes either.

ProudDUB wrote: »

But once it does, its time to have a serious rethink. That is why I was very glad to see Liam O'Neill declare today that no more American football games will be played there in July or August. By all means, bring them back next year, but do it Oct-December when nothing else is going on at Croker.

Really? because in today's Irish Times, Keith Duggan says that there is already a game scheduled for August 2017 and the plan is to have one every other year.

There is no competitive American Football played at College or Pro level in July, so we're safe enough. But, from the same piece linked to above, it seems that only the first game of the College season can be played overseas and so that will be late August or early September.

I think it's crazy to schedule anything in Croke Park over a weekend in August or September other than a GAA match. The Irish economy would benefit just as much if American Football was played in the Avivia in August/September - I would be very surprised if the attendance will be more than that which attended Notre Dame v Navy in the Aviva back in 2012, and that had was part of 'The Gathering'.

The last time a College game was played in Croke Park was 1996 and that involved Notre Dame. The attendance was less than 40,000. Penn State are currently under sanctions for some pretty serious issues. The game is starting at 8.30am East Coast time in the US. I really wonder how much exposure Croke Park/the GAA will get from this.

You can of course argue that hosting this game in Croke Park has a financial benefit for the GAA. But so would selling the naming rights of Croke Park. Or any other number of commerical ventures you could care to name. Given that Croke Park has a full time commercial director nothing that happens in the future would surprise me.