Kingsman: The Secret Service

Otacon · 23-09-2014 2:10pm #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8F-8tR8to

A new trailer has been posted for Matthew Vaughn's latest movie. To be honest, I will give anything he is involved in the time of day as I love his work.

Anyone else excited?

23-09-2014 2:18pm

I really like Vaughn, the cast is great and the trailer is good fun but I despise Mark Millar and find his work to be the lowest common denominator crap you're likely to come across. Hopefully this will follow the trend of taking Millar's work and deviating hugely from the source material.

bnt · 11-12-2014 12:29am

New "red band" (18 cert) trailer is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D-dkRWBaco

Nothing like a bit of the ol' ultraviolence, isn't there? :cool:

whomitconcerns · 15-01-2015 10:03am

saw it last night in VUE. Good film, some very funny and some very violent scenes. But overall good craic and worth seeing!

cloud493 · 19-01-2015 5:21pm

I'll give it a chance, but I can see it being terrible.

MisterAnarchy · 19-01-2015 7:48pm

I like Vaughns work but I think this will tank at the box office

JP Liz V1 · 19-01-2015 9:01pm

The lead young actor Taron Egerton reminds me of Jack O'Connell whom he beat out for the role

19-01-2015 9:06pm

It's another in the unending line of action films cut for a lower UK rating. Much like A Walk Among the Tombstones and The Equaliser, this is one ill be waiting till it hits VOD in the US as for some reason many of these cuts remain for the home release.

Turtyturd · 20-01-2015 12:22am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I really like Vaughn, the cast is great and the trailer is good fun but I despise Mark Millar and find his work to be the lowest common denominator crap you're likely to come across. Hopefully this will follow the trend of taking Millar's work and deviating hugely from the source material.

Millar to me is the other extreme to Grant Morrison. Morrison writes over complex stories which make sense to only him, whereas Millar writes blockbuster fluff. He has good ideas (Red Son, Kick-Ass, Ultimates) but too often his inner teenager fills in the rest of the story.

However sometimes the deviating from the source material turns out worse and you end up with Wanted.

20-01-2015 2:20am

Turtyturd wrote: »

Millar to me is the other extreme to Grant Morrison. Morrison writes over complex stories which make sense to only him, whereas Millar writes blockbuster fluff. He has good ideas (Red Son, Kick-Ass, Ultimates) but too often his inner teenager fills in the rest of the story.

However sometimes the deviating from the source material turns out worse and you end up with Wanted.

Wanted as a film is much better than the piece of crap comic. Millar is a terrible writer, no doubt he has good ideas but the execution is generally woeful and panders to the lowest common denominator. That many of his comics best ideas are suggested by other writers says it all.

Otacon · 20-01-2015 3:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's another in the unending line of action films cut for a lower UK rating.

Do you have a link to this? I didn't see any stories about it being cut here.

cloud493 · 20-01-2015 3:42pm

According to some people that have already seen the UK version, its plenty violent.

20-01-2015 7:23pm

Otacon wrote: »

Do you have a link to this? I didn't see any stories about it being cut here.

This is the BBFC statement on it:

UK: Passed 15 for strong bloody violence, strong language after BBFC advised pre-cuts for:
2014 cinema release
The BBFC commented:
This film was originally seen for advice in an unfinished version. The company was informed the film was likely to be classified 18, but that their requested 15 could be achieved by making some reductions in scenes of violence. When the finished version was submitted for formal classification, reductions had been made and the film was passed 15.

ps3lover · 23-01-2015 2:41pm

**** sake! I'm sick and tired of them censoring stuff to gain lower ratings. Then they wonder why no one wants to go to the cinema any more.

OldeCinemaSoz · 24-01-2015 11:08pm

Looking forward next weekend to what MARV can DISH UP as opposed to MAR-VEL.

nix · 27-01-2015 8:31pm

Seen the unlimited screening of this last night, loved it from start to finish, highly entertaining, some great comedic characters in it and some top drawer OTT action sequences throughout..

cloud493 · 29-01-2015 4:13pm

I'd like to say better than expected but then I'd be damning with faint praise. Absolutely top film, superior to either kick-ass movie far as I'm concerned.

Bacchus · 29-01-2015 4:59pm

The Red Band trailer has me very interested. Love the crazy OTT action & violence

Lamper.sffc · 30-01-2015 1:55am

Seen it today. Loved it. Great action and very funny. The last 10 mins had me in stitches

This is not the movie I expected when I first seen the trailer.

bri007 · 30-01-2015 1:58am

Good film well worth seeing it

TheNap · 30-01-2015 10:30am

Went to it yesterday.

Loved every minute of it

humanji · 30-01-2015 11:20am

It's utter nonsense and I loved it. It's funny that it was edited to stop it getting a higher cert. In the 80's or 90's it would have been an 18's film as it is and none the worse for it. The pacing is great, the action sequences are brilliantly over the top and insanely violent. Even though it's chock full of cliches, I didn't mind at all, as it was just a fun ride from start to finish.

I've only read the first issue of the comic, and the film seems to differ in quite a few ways. One difference that I thought was very funny/clever is:

in the film, the professor who is kidnapped is played by Mark Hamill and in the comic it's actually Mark Hamill himself who is kidnapped

. I don't know why, but I found that to be a really funny idea.

gazzer · 30-01-2015 4:51pm

Bacchus wrote: »

The Red Band trailer has me very interested. Love the crazy OTT action & violence

Just watched the Red Band trailer. Its looks insane

brevity · 30-01-2015 10:36pm

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Great fun.

EoinMcLovin · 30-01-2015 10:39pm

great film with over the top action scenes especially the church scene. The scene during the credits was good too

Pierce_1991 · 31-01-2015 1:10am

Absolutely bonkers but great fun. I liked that it wasn't afraid to be a bit violent or throw a few f-bombs around. I think this is a slightly cut down version to achieve the 16 rating, would have loved to have seen it 18s and go all out, more movies need to do this! That said, this could easily have been cut further to make it 12s so I was happy with it.

Taron Egerton in the lead was excellent I thought and Firth, Strong, Jackson and Caine in support were all great too. I'd love to see this get a sequel.

Sobko · 31-01-2015 2:56am

Looking forward to seeing this on Monday.

candy-gal1 · 01-02-2015 12:47am

Fcuking amazingly good movie imho, would go and see it again

Looper007 · 01-02-2015 9:10am

candy-gal1 wrote: »

Fcuking amazingly good movie imho, would go and see it again

Agreed I'm a big fan of Mark Kermode after seen his review and him been sniffy about it, I was a little worried about it. But Mark was off form here, although I agree with him on the ending

Eggsy gets to get anal of the Princess of Sweden was a little low brow

. But that's the only thing I could complain about, its just a great all out action comedy in which Matthew Vaughan does as better then anyone.

Colin Firth is excellent as Harry Hart, he's clearly got his influence from his Co star Michael Caine's classic Harry Palmer trilogy in the 60's with his look. When his

Death scene comes along its actually out of the blue and very shocking a bit like Nic Cage in Kick Ass

. Taron Egerton as Eggsy is very Jack O'Connell like (he was passed on for the role for Egerton) but he's excellent and very rootable hero. Mark Strong almost steals the movie as a Q if he was also a kickass solider and Michael Caine is a great dislikeable snob spy

Although After finding out he's working for Valentine, at his death scene seen that his character was from the same background as Eggsy was a great touch

.

Samuel l Jackson was a great villain and his blade leg wielding henchwoman Gazelle played brilliantly by Sofia Boutella was another standout. Loved the cameo from Mark Hamill and his English accent is top notch

In the comic book they actually are out to save Mark Hamiil

. The scene in the Church is as brutal as anything you see, even I was wincing at some of the deaths.

I hope it does brilliantly and that we get a sequel. 9/10

candy-gal1 · 01-02-2015 10:11am

The Church scene, yes, incredable!

Sudden Valley · 01-02-2015 2:12pm

Watched it last night. V enjoyable film. It references old Bond movies in the film itself and that's what it was like (albeit the violence was much more visceral). Screening did not seem very full so perhaps it is not doing well? That would be a pity, I could see myself going to a sequel.

Yamanoto · 02-02-2015 1:11am

Went to see it this evening & wasn't expecting a whole lot tbh.

Found it a hugely enjoyable romp though & thought the editing & direction of the fight sequences in particular were superb. I'd usually avoid action pics, as I find how most film-makers handle the violence is invariably dull & predictable, whereas the carnage that unfolded in the pub & the church were terrifically realised visual treats, which really drew you right into the scenes.

I think word of mouth will see this endeavour do very well at the box office & deservedly so.

errlloyd · 02-02-2015 1:15am

Wow, trailer didn't impress me, film blew my mind. I've been watching lots of Oscar bait recently, after 2 and a half hours of boyhood, that was an adventure.

nix · 02-02-2015 4:51am

Yamanoto wrote: »

Went to see it this evening & wasn't expecting a whole lot tbh.

Found it a hugely enjoyable romp though & thought the editing & direction of the fight sequences in particular were superb. I'd usually avoid action pics, as I find how most film-makers handle the violence is invariably dull & predictable, whereas the carnage that unfolded in the pub & the church were terrifically realised visual treats, which really drew you right into the scenes.

I think word of mouth will see this endeavour do very well at the box office & deservedly so.

I agree, if i recall, Kickass didnt start off too well either and word of mouth with high praises done it justice in the end. I can see this doing just as well, heck all I'm seeing is praise for the movie.

Agent Coulson · 02-02-2015 9:22pm

Just out from seeing I was expecting some PG mini Bond type film.

Well it really was a fun 2 hours with some great fight scenes were awesome I didn't think I would see anything top The John Wick fight scenes this year but this did.

Colin Firth could take over from Liam Neeson as the go to guy for the older action star if he wanted after.

Ridiculously entertaining with gratuitous violence and I loved it.

errlloyd · 02-02-2015 9:24pm

That scene in the church was one of the most amazing things in cinema.

I really appreciate any excuse to put a highly trained agent on a rampage in the middle of the "I can't believe it's not the Westboro Baptist Church"

- I really want that remix of Freebird, but looks like it'll be a little longer before the soundtrack comes out.

Pierce_1991 · 02-02-2015 11:09pm

errlloyd wrote: »

That scene in the church was one of the most amazing things in cinema.
I really appreciate any excuse to put a highly trained agent on a rampage in the middle of the "I can't believe it's not the Westboro Baptist Church"
- I really want that remix of Freebird, but looks like it'll be a little longer before the soundtrack comes out.

I agree, awesome scene. One little moan about it though was

I didn't really know what was going on at first. I think if we had have had the plan explained in the build up it would have made it a little bit more enjoyable.

errlloyd · 02-02-2015 11:21pm

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

I agree, awesome scene. One little moan about it though was
I didn't really know what was going on at first. I think if we had have had the plan explained in the build up it would have made it a little bit more enjoyable.

Yeah, I completely agree with that. Like they had explained kind of what had happened in Uganda and the other place, but yeah, still weird.

Sobko · 03-02-2015 1:29am

Fantastic trip to the cinema.

nix · 03-02-2015 3:54am

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

I agree, awesome scene. One little moan about it though was
I didn't really know what was going on at first. I think if we had have had the plan explained in the build up it would have made it a little bit more enjoyable.

I think they purposely kept it secret so we would be surprised/taken back by the whole scene,

what made the church scene so good is that it was out of nowhere and unexpected.

Pierce_1991 · 03-02-2015 10:58am

nix wrote: »

I think they purposely kept it secret so we would be surprised/taken back by the whole scene,
what made the church scene so good is that it was out of nowhere and unexpected.

Yeah I agree to an extent, just think that

it may have been a bit better if seconds before Colin Firth shoots that woman we get to see Sam Jackson briefly explain the plan in that room he's in. I was just a little confused as to why a good guy had suddenly decided to kill about 200 people. That said, still a great scene, brilliantly shot.

Ciaran_B · 03-02-2015 11:06am

My only problem with the church scene and the film in general

was the lack of blood. With the amount of stabbing, punching, shooting and dismembering that was on screen the place should have been soaked in blood. But there was barely a drop. I suppose that was necessary to get a 15 cert though

. Really good film though – the two leads were excellent.

Pierce_1991 · 03-02-2015 11:15am

Ciaran_B wrote: »

My only problem with the church scene and the film in general
was the lack of blood. With the amount of stabbing, punching, shooting and dismembering that was on screen the place should have been soaked in blood. But there was barely a drop. I suppose that was necessary to get a 15 cert though
. Really good film though – the two leads were excellent.

I'd agree with you on that one. Too many films editing and chopping nowadays for a younger certificate. Thats one of the reasons I loved Gone Girl last year. It's an adult film with adult themes and as such has adult content and was given the 18 certificate. Whether you like that film or not, at least you know it was made in the way the filmmakers intended. Fincher and Tarantino are the only two directors that seem to be willing to force the issue on that these days (in terms of big, general release films).

nix · 04-02-2015 2:06am

Ciaran_B wrote: »

My only problem with the church scene and the film in general
was the lack of blood. With the amount of stabbing, punching, shooting and dismembering that was on screen the place should have been soaked in blood. But there was barely a drop. I suppose that was necessary to get a 15 cert though
. Really good film though – the two leads were excellent.

Yeah ive heard they made cuts to the movie to get a lower cert, although annoying they still got alot in considering. I hope they release the full version when going to dvd/blu ray.

I have a feeling the

church scene was edited alot and the heads exploding at the end was edited also, it kinda just wreaked of censorship to me with the way the heads exploded.

Skerries · 04-02-2015 10:25am

I wonder how much Diageo paid for that Pub scene with all the references to Guinness in it

Otacon · 04-02-2015 4:44pm

Skerries wrote: »

I wonder how much Diageo paid for that Pub scene with all the references to Guinness in it

Was there more than one?

cloud493 · 04-02-2015 5:00pm

No its only the one I recall.

errlloyd · 04-02-2015 5:12pm

Otacon wrote: »

Was there more than one?

Well apart from him talking about his great pint of Guinness, there were ads all over the place for it.

Otacon · 04-02-2015 5:32pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Well apart from him talking about his great pint of Guinness, there were ads all over the place for it.

I am probably desensitised to it then. I worked in a pub for years.

Tefral · 04-02-2015 5:44pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Well apart from him talking about his great pint of Guinness, there were ads all over the place for it.

After credit scene too back at the pub

constitutionus · 04-02-2015 8:43pm

i thought it was great craic.

not the best , but very very solid. i can see teenagers lining up in droves for this sort of thing as its right up their ally. despite being incredibly violent i can honestly say its done with such style that it somehow manages not to come off as gratuitious which is some feat.

and its got a lovey heart to it at its core.

as it kept referencing itself its a wonderful mix of 60s bond and modern superhero fare.

8/10.

good honest popcorn entertainment who's action scenes gets the heart pumping.

Kingsman: The Secret Service

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