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Hybrid Bird Flu about to be released?

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  • 13-04-2009 10:10am
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    Veni Vedi Vici
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    I've stumbled across the following video online that claim the following so far as I understood:
    • The Bird Flu is about to be released on the US public.
    • It is currently being transported by the Dept of Homeland Security using trucks from silos.
    • New York State Police, FBI and Infections Control & Disease have been given a reports by one these Spanish truck drivers.
    • He and his family have been innoculated. He his paid $5000 dollars per load at three loads per day and is paid in cash. He only loads at night (3am). He has since been relocated from his original course.
    • The claimant has stated that the stock is refrigerated and has suggested that these may be antigens or antibodes.
    • The claimant will not reveal who or what her sources are (:rolleyes: ffs).
    • New York State Police can be quoted as refusing to investigate this.
    • Retired State Troopers are escorting these loads and are being paid up to three times their salary.
    • A retired three star African American general in Albany is one of the front men. Bank of America and Eastern Connection are also involved.
    • The general was told that if he was good to the government then they would be good to him and promised to relocate him his family to a safehouse in Sandypoint, Maryland with other goverment officials.
    • A trucker has been directed to subteranean silos in New York delivering 90 boxes of clear liquid onto a C130 (military transport with attachment for spraying chemical and/or frequency weapons). These are specifically refrigerated.
    • Up to 30 miles of track and train carriers (e.g. New York State Thruway) exists in all states of the US.
    • Carriers have been prepositioned on the spare side tracks for dead bodies.
    • A Pakistani Diplomat has left the Albany area, took his kid out school half way through the year, has now left the US and has alledgedly told the claimant that "the US is no more".
    I'm not too sure what to make of all this. Fear mongering or warranted concern? Here's the video:



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    Mahatma coat
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    how does this tie in with the 'accident' in europe a few months ago?


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    Mahatma coat
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    dont suppose any of our posters live in Albany NY??

    would be interesting to actualy prove/disprove shennanigans in 'secret' military bases


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    Diogenes
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    Veni Vedi Vici wrote: »
    I've stumbled across the following video online that claim the following so far as I understood:
    • The Bird Flu is about to be released on the US public.
    • It is currently being transported by the Dept of Homeland Security using trucks from silos.
    • New York State Police, FBI and Infections Control & Disease have been given a reports by one these Spanish truck drivers.
    • He and his family have been innoculated. He his paid $5000 dollars per load at three loads per day and is paid in cash. He only loads at night (3am). He has since been relocated from his original course.
    • The claimant has stated that the stock is refrigerated and has suggested that these may be antigens or antibodes.
    • The claimant will not reveal who or what her sources are (:rolleyes: ffs).
    • New York State Police can be quoted as refusing to investigate this.
    • Retired State Troopers are escorting these loads and are being paid up to three times their salary.
    • A retired three star African American general in Albany is one of the front men. Bank of America and Eastern Connection are also involved.
    • The general was told that if he was good to the government then they would be good to him and promised to relocate him his family to a safehouse in Sandypoint, Maryland with other goverment officials.
    • A trucker has been directed to subteranean silos in New York delivering 90 boxes of clear liquid onto a C130 (military transport with attachment for spraying chemical and/or frequency weapons). These are specifically refrigerated.
    • Up to 30 miles of track and train carriers (e.g. New York State Thruway) exists in all states of the US.
    • Carriers have been prepositioned on the spare side tracks for dead bodies.
    • A Pakistani Diplomat has left the Albany area, took his kid out school half way through the year, has now left the US and has alledgedly told the claimant that "the US is no more".
    I'm not too sure what to make of all this. Fear mongering or warranted concern? Here's the video:



    I'll give you a clue, if people aren't dying within the next four months, its probably bull****.


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    bonkey
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    Hmm.

    A google on the terms "hybrid bird flu" gave this page as result 4. Result 1 was also a bbs linking to this video. Result 2 was a video-site, linking to this video.

    I'll go with it being a candidate for BlueLagoon's "conspiracy of conspiracies" for now.


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    GhostInTheRuins
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    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    how does this tie in with the 'accident' in europe a few months ago?

    What accident?


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    Mahatma coat
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    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.survivalism/2009-03/msg00465.html

    there ya go, jaysus its amazin how quickly people forget about these sorts of things


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    Diogenes
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    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.survivalism/2009-03/msg00465.html

    there ya go, jaysus its amazin how quickly people forget about these sorts of things


    Some quotes for you

    "At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and
    occupational risk is minimal at present," medical officer Roberta
    Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.

    "And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses
    that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech
    Republic."

    Theres a very good book called "the hot zone" an examination of a Ebola outbreak in a monkey house in Washington DC, in this instance both the US Army Veterinarian Lab and the CDC displayed awful judgement and regrettably poor procedural practices (in one instance US army staff after spending the day dealing with dead and dying infected monkeys walked into a local McDonalds without going through disinfection.
    Mahatma coat wrote:
    would be interesting to actualy prove/disprove shennanigans in 'secret' military bases


    how does this tie in with the 'accident' in europe a few months ago?

    MC do you know Hanlon's law?

    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity".

    Calling this an "accident" (adding the quotation marks means, I assume, that you are suspicious that this was an accident) before you are sure it's a genuine accident, is just pure paranoia.


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    uncle_sam_ie
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055505569&page=2

    "I don't believe this was a screwup. These guys operate at Bio Safety Level (BSL) 3 Plus.. Which is in between BSL 3 and 4, with 4 being the highest level of safety required. BSL 3 is for dangers like SARS and Anthrax and BSL 4 is for the infamous Ebola Virus and Lassa Fever.. The influenza virus is dealt with at BSL 2, how on earth did they accidentally take not just one but TWO BSL 3 Plus LIVE VIRUS's, both separately stored and clearly marked out of the secure holding that it would be in, in a BSL 3 Plus lab and put it in a BSL 2 lab not knowing what it was and mix it with a vaccine?"


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    espinolman
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    Veni Vedi Vici wrote: »
    I'm not too sure what to make of all this. Fear mongering or warranted concern? Here's the video:

    Why has this video not being deleted ? If this is for real then why would they let it get out ? I think it is fake . Here is a clue - 24 .
    Although was'nt there a television series that had a programme about a plane being flown into the twin towers in the late nineties ? You just never know !


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    bonkey
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    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055505569&page=2

    "I don't believe this was a screwup. These guys operate at Bio Safety Level (BSL) 3 Plus.. Which is in between BSL 3 and 4, with 4 being the highest level of safety required. BSL 3 is for dangers like SARS and Anthrax and BSL 4 is for the infamous Ebola Virus and Lassa Fever.. The influenza virus is dealt with at BSL 2, how on earth did they accidentally take not just one but TWO BSL 3 Plus LIVE VIRUS's, both separately stored and clearly marked out of the secure holding that it would be in, in a BSL 3 Plus lab and put it in a BSL 2 lab not knowing what it was and mix it with a vaccine?"

    And yet, in teh post immediately prior to yours, Diogenes mentions a book where procedures investigating Ebola were completely and totally c0cked up.

    That's BSL4, by the info you give - the highest rating there is.

    If you can have such a momumental screwup at BSL4, its a bit strange to insist that it can't happen at lower levels, don't you think?


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    Kernel
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    bonkey wrote: »
    Hmm.

    A google on the terms "hybrid bird flu" gave this page as result 4. Result 1 was also a bbs linking to this video. Result 2 was a video-site, linking to this video.

    I'll go with it being a candidate for BlueLagoon's "conspiracy of conspiracies" for now.

    The story is doing the rounds on abovetopsecret.com as well. Which is the most popular conspiracy website there is, you probably wouldn't like it though bonkey.


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    uncle_sam_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    So it begins. http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKN24310608 , http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090423/national/mexico_mystery_illness_2, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/23/AR2009042304116.html
    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/24/health-flu-mexico090424.html http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=a7MNonvi.C5g&refer=home From CIDRAP http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/apr2309swineflu.html and CDC http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/investigation.htm


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    FX Meister
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    Sounds just like a crazy lady calling a radio station. Do you really think if the US were doing something like this they woulg hire some dumbass spanish driver? His pay slip has delivery address on it? And if this wasn't bad enough the last line is an adaptation of a classic urban myth. America is full of conspiracy of nutjobs, why even waste time discussing crap like this? The guy at the end thinks he's gonna get gassed and burned in an oven. Straight up crazy. There's plenty of actual things the governments are doing behind our backs that would be better looked at.


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    King Mob
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    uncle_sam_ie wrote: »
    So it begins. http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKN24310608 , http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090423/national/mexico_mystery_illness_2, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/23/AR2009042304116.html
    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/24/health-flu-mexico090424.html http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=a7MNonvi.C5g&refer=home From CIDRAP http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/apr2309swineflu.html and CDC http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/investigation.htm
    Except it's not bird flu at all. And there are only 7 cases in the US. And is on the other side of the country than what was "predicted."
    Not exactly a pandemic.

    And if it was the governments intent to let this spread why is the CDC issuing warnings?


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    mysterious
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    Bird flu is just another way create fear, panick and control.

    Shakes head....


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    King Mob
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    mysterious wrote: »
    Bird flu is just another way create fear, panick and control.

    Shakes head....
    Except this isn't bird flu. And no ones panicking.


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    Highsider
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    That's not bird flu


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    Sofa_King Good
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    King Mob wrote: »
    Except it's not bird flu at all. And there are only 7 cases in the US. And is on the other side of the country than what was "predicted."
    Not exactly a pandemic.

    If anyone doesn't know avian basically means bird(s).
    It first looked mostly like a swine virus but closer analysis showed it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_flu;_ylt=Avk32xQXYiB3hKwaKQVeRp4XIr0F;_ylu=X3oDMTI5YW9rZTNlBGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMDkwNDI0L3VzX2ZsdQRjcG9zAzMEcG9zAzMEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNuZXdkZWFkbHlzd2k-


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    King Mob
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    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    If anyone doesn't know avian basically means bird(s).


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_flu;_ylt=Avk32xQXYiB3hKwaKQVeRp4XIr0F;_ylu=X3oDMTI5YW9rZTNlBGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMDkwNDI0L3VzX2ZsdQRjcG9zAzMEcG9zAzMEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNuZXdkZWFkbHlzd2k-

    Yes it's not bird flu.

    It's also spreading through pigs.

    And there's only 7 cases in the US.

    So not an epidemic.

    And if it's the governments intent to lets this spread why is the CDC issuing warnings.


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    Sofa_King Good
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    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes it's not bird flu.

    It's also spreading through pigs.

    And there's only 7 cases in the US.

    So not an epidemic.

    And if it's the governments intent to lets this spread why is the CDC issuing warnings.

    from the same article
    With the swine flu being passed between people, raising fears of a major outbreak in North America,


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    King Mob
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    So then why is the CDC issuing warnings?

    Cause there no possible way this could be naturally occurring.


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    Sofa_King Good
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    Diogenes wrote: »
    I'll give you a clue, if people aren't dying within the next four months, its probably bull****.

    So? how is less than 4 weeks?


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    Sofa_King Good
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    King Mob wrote: »
    So then why is the CDC issuing warnings?

    because maybe they are playing the game.

    Cause there no possible way this could be naturally occurring.

    didn't say that, but

    "it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses."

    perfectly describes a "hybrid bird-flu" right or wrong?


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    King Mob
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    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    So? how is less than 4 weeks?

    How about the other side of the country and not the same virus?


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    King Mob
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    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    didn't say that, but

    "it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses."

    perfectly describes a "hybrid bird-flu" right or wrong?
    I don't know. Is it?
    Define a hybrid virus.


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    King Mob
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    Oh and look.
    The World Health Organization thinks the virus may be behind 60 deaths in Mexico since mid-March.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8016909.stm


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    Sofa_King Good
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    King Mob wrote: »
    Oh and look.



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8016909.stm

    "thinks" & "may" that's not very Mob like now is it?


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    King Mob
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    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    "thinks" & "may" that's not very Mob like now is it?
    So lets see.
    It's not the same virus.
    It wasn't released in the north east.
    And it may have been around for a month before this "prediction."

    So anything to back up the idea that it is released by the government?

    Why is the CDC issuing warning if they want it to spread?


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    Purple Gorilla
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    The flu? Mutating?


    ..because its never done that before


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    King Mob
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    Purple Gorilla wrote: »
    The flu? Mutating?


    ..because its never done that before

    Nope and certainly never killed anyone unless the government releases it either.


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