Batman - Arkham Knight

Zero-Cool · 06-02-2014 8:54pm #1

http://www.thegamingliberty.com/2014/02/rocksteady-reportedly-showing-new-game-to-press-behind-closed-doors-reveal-incoming/

Could this be the next gen sequel to Arkham City we've been waiting for??? I wonder if it's gonna be the Silver Age one they were talking about before or a proper sequel to Arkham City. Lot's of potential in a City sequel, can't wait for a reveal!

Edit: Looking into it more, rumours say the game will officially be revealed next month by a Cover of Game Informer.

Temptamperu · 06-02-2014 9:31pm

Yeah ima totally buy another rockstar game.

sarumite · 06-02-2014 9:41pm

I havent played origins, but loved both asylum and city. Its good to see Rocksteady back at the helm.

Kirby · 06-02-2014 10:03pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

Yeah ima totally buy another rockstar game.

I would too. But seeing as they have nothing to do with Batman, is that really relevant? :P

calex71 · 06-02-2014 11:47pm

I'm not excited at the Prospect of another Arkham game, especially after Origins.... good story and bosses but too much filler I know they had nothing to do with it, but even if they had it doubt it would have been much different. If rocksteady came out with a game not batman that was as good as asylum and city then id jump at it , but don't want another batman ....... unless..... the 60's called and they said it was cool to make a batman game like that with Adam West reprising his role :pac:

Joke will be on all of us when it turns out they resurrect Urban Chaos and not Batman!!!!!!!!

Zero-Cool · 06-02-2014 11:57pm

Urban chaos was class!

Professey Chin · 07-02-2014 12:02am

I remember being all excited at the rumors Rocksteady had gotten the TMNT license to work on! Then it turned out Activision has bought it. The horror

Looking forward to seeing what they have though

Zero-Cool · 23-02-2014 10:06pm

Does anyone know when game informer gets released? Just wondering when in march we will be getting news.

Wossack · 24-02-2014 11:00am

I dont think I finished the last batman.. which is saying something, as I loved the previous two. It was a fair buggy mess tbh (on pc anyway), which ultimately made me stop playing.

The city felt a bit rehashed too - almost like it was a series of dlc for arkham city..

It wont be a day one purchase from me anyway

super_furry · 24-02-2014 11:09am

Think they need to change up the formula for this one. Two great and one poorly made game that all followed the same template within such a short time of each other were enough. Make another that's not different enough and the franchise could begin to lose people's interest.

Mr Freeze · 24-02-2014 11:15am

Moving to the open city setting was a bit of misstep.

A more tightly focused game like the first one would be better. The City had too much junk/distractions shoed in.

maximoose · 24-02-2014 11:18am

I only had minor bug issues with Origins, and while I enjoyed it (story was possibly best of the three, but other issues let it down) I'm looking forward to this a lot more.

Zero-Cool · 24-02-2014 11:31am

Well the main thing is that the next game is back to Rocksteady who made the first two. Origins was good and I didn't come across many bugs on ps3 but I think it was just a filler while Rocksteady worked the the next gen batman. High hopes for the next one!

humanji · 24-02-2014 3:06pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Moving to the open city setting was a bit of misstep.

A more tightly focused game like the first one would be better. The City had too much junk/distractions shoed in.

The city, if done well, can be great. You could see a few elements in the last two games with investigating crime scenes and figuring out where the likes of Deadshot fired from etc. I think the "detective" part "The Dark Knight Detective" was missing from the first game and a more open area to play in would give developers a good opening for making players use their brains to solve crimes. But, again, that requires it to be done well. Arkham City had too much random things happening and it came across as very unfocused, while Origins had very little happening. If they can make more of a living, breathing style city then they may not need to put riddler puzzles all over it to make it interesting.

Mr Freeze · 24-02-2014 3:10pm

humanji wrote: »

If they can make more of a living, breathing style city then they may not need to put riddler puzzles all over it to make it interesting.

That, I'd have no objection too, I'd like to see that.

Have riddles about the place alrite, but have them as crime scenes. The silly riddler puzzles on every rooftop and alley was ridiculous.

McSasquatch · 24-02-2014 3:23pm

Much preferred the open city setting of AC to AA meself. The side quests only distract if you let them, though personally I liked most of them. As said above, tone down the literal trophy hunting, and improve the detective work and I'd be very happy (I'd also like the stealth element to be revamped but that's just me).

Sarky · 24-02-2014 4:35pm

Even jazzing up the "crimes in progress" thing from Origins would have been great. As it was, it was just "go here, beat up those thugs". Remember Spider-Man 2 on the PS2? Having to catch up with stolen cars, leap onto them and dodge gunfire from the passengers? That'd be freaking awesome fun as the Dark Knight, and it'd put a bit more life into Gotham.

humanji · 24-02-2014 4:52pm

Sarky wrote: »

Even jazzing up the "crimes in progress" thing from Origins would have been great. As it was, it was just "go here, beat up those thugs". Remember Spider-Man 2 on the PS2? Having to catch up with stolen cars, leap onto them and dodge gunfire from the passengers? That'd be freaking awesome fun as the Dark Knight, and it'd put a bit more life into Gotham.

That's exactly what I was expecting when I first heard about the crimes in progress thingy in Origins. Given how enthusiastically the developers were talking about it, you'd think they were talking about something completely different to what ended up there.

What possibly ended up weighing down Origins, and City to an extent, is also that they were set over one night. If they stretched it out over many days and nights the side missions and villains wouldn't seem so weak, story-wise. It would have made sense for Origins if you have this open city with people going about their business and only a rumour of some sort of man-bat. Then as you go from day to day/night to night, the mythology around you grows and then you'd have the likes of Black Mask wanted to kill you and Joker wanting to find out who this other madman is.

Sarky · 24-02-2014 5:50pm

Ooh, or some sort of open-world predator/intimidation minigame where you scare a thug into running from you, then zoom ahead with your bag o' tricks to appear ahead of him so he turns left at an alley here, right at an alley there, and so on until he blunders into a dead end or snare you'd set earlier for him. A lot more could be done to play to Batman's strengths.

humanji · 24-02-2014 5:54pm

Sarky wrote: »

Ooh, or some sort of open-world predator/intimidation minigame where you scare a thug into running from you, then zoom ahead with your bag o' tricks to appear ahead of him so he turns left at an alley here, right at an alley there, and so on until he blunders into a trap you'd set earlier for him. A lot more could be done to play to Batman's strengths.

Essentially being able to do what Batman does in the comics, really. None of this waiting for a bad guy to charge, side-stepping, hitting them for a bit and then waiting for them to charge again.

Sarky · 24-02-2014 5:59pm

Exactly. Batman isn't supposed to be that kind of hero. He's supposed to be this terrifying nightmare criminal-hunter, who has no qualms about fighting dirty. The invisible predator sections went a long way towards getting the feel right, as you watched thugs get increasingly scared and erratic. There's no reason it couldn't be expanded to cover areas bigger than a room with a few conveniently placed gargoyles.

Temptamperu · 24-02-2014 7:43pm

Im replaying Arkham city. The hole on catwoman!

richymcdermott · 28-02-2014 4:01pm

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/02/28/new-batman-game-coming-gamestop-apparently-receives-posters-for-display-in-march/

batman_poster_leaked.png?w=474&h=628

It might be safe to assume Batman back :pac:

NotorietyH · 04-03-2014 4:00pm

Batman: Arkham Knight revealed.

Open world, driveable Batmobile, PS4/XOne/PC only it seems.

humanji · 04-03-2014 4:08pm

That sounds awesome, but also a little disheartening that they've already got the DLC sorted for pre-orders. I knew there was always going to be DLC, and yet I still feel slightly sad.

Radiosonde · 04-03-2014 4:10pm

Slightly surprised that what's being touted as the conclusion to the Arkham series is skipping the old gen machines, but cross gen is winding down already I guess.

Look forward to the batmobile, I just hope for a larger game world or else there won't be much room for it to breathe!

humanji · 04-03-2014 4:12pm

Radiosonde wrote: »

Slightly surprised that what's being touted as the conclusion to the Arkham series is skipping the old gen machines, but cross gen is winding down already I guess.

Look forward to the batmobile, I just hope for a larger game world or else there won't be much room for it to breathe!

I'm sure the world will be pretty big, I'm just worried about how full of life it'll be.

Mr Freeze · 04-03-2014 4:13pm

I don't mind what they do for this to be honest, as long as its a change from City and Origins.

GTA: Gotham is what I am picturing at the moment.

Scarecrow as the main baddie? Well that could go the way of Black Mask and Deathstroke, and mean nothing, as least it won't be the Joker again, or will it.

NotorietyH · 04-03-2014 4:14pm

Yeah it's been confirmed somewhere can't find the link that it's Gotham.

Wossack · 04-03-2014 4:15pm

humanji wrote: »

I'm sure the world will be pretty big, I'm just worried about how full of life it'll be.

aye, wonder how they're going to explain away zero civilian population this time :pac:

Mr Freeze · 04-03-2014 4:18pm

Wossack wrote: »

aye, wonder how they're going to explain away zero civilian population this time :pac:

Hopefully the next gen can handle civilian NPCs. :pac:

Sure they could always add a loading screen every few metres.

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 4:18pm

Wow, sounds brilliant except for the car. The Nolan one was my least favourite batmobile.

humanji · 04-03-2014 4:24pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

I don't mind what they do for this to be honest, as long as its a change from City and Origins.

GTA: Gotham is what I am picturing at the moment.

Scarecrow as the main baddie? Well that could go the way of Black Mask and Deathstroke, and mean nothing, as least it won't be the Joker again, or will it.

It having Scarecrow could be a good way to have the Joker in it, in some sort of hallucination. I'd hope that Joker's death would have some sort of effect on Batman that plays into this ones plot.

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Hopefully the next gen can handle civilian NPCs. :pac:

Sure they could always add a loading screen every few metres.

With the likes of GTA and Watchdogs etc having large cities with plenty of NPC's I'd be amazed if they took a cheap way out of it.

I'm desperately trying not to get over excited and imagine lots of outlandish hopes for this game that'll end up not being possible, but I just can't help it!

Mr Freeze · 04-03-2014 4:27pm

humanji wrote: »

It having Scarecrow could be a good way to have the Joker in it, in some sort of hallucination. I'd hope that Joker's death would have some sort of effect on Batman that plays into this ones plot.

That might be cool actually, as long as its not the main focus of the story. I'm sure Scarecrow isn't the main villain though, I'm sure they have something cool lined up, that we won't expect.

Edit: guessing its one of these, Hush/Ra's al Ghul/Red Hood Jason Todd as main villains.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they had an empty city, or city just with random thugs to beat up.

Nody · 04-03-2014 4:31pm

How about we put in the Riddler and we can spend 15 min beating him up for being a royal pain in the ass in the previous two games?

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 4:35pm

It would be class if Red Hood Jason Todd was the main villain.

PopePalpatine · 04-03-2014 4:40pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

I don't mind what they do for this to be honest, as long as its a change from City and Origins.

GTA: Gotham is what I am picturing at the moment.

Scarecrow as the main baddie? Well that could go the way of Black Mask and Deathstroke, and mean nothing, as least it won't be the Joker again, or will it.

I'm kinda excited about Scarecrow being the main villain. IMO he has the potential to be the most dangerous villain of all, simply because he can get into the deepest recesses of your mind, the places where you feel no-one can harm you.

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 4:40pm

Looks like Hush might be making a return!

Mr Freeze · 04-03-2014 4:44pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'm kinda excited about Scarecrow being the main villain. IMO he has the potential to be the most dangerous villain of all, simply because he can get into the deepest recesses of your mind, the places where you feel no-one can harm you.

ya it would be class, but the main villains always appear to be red herrings.

City, Two Face was advertised as the main baddie, and it ended up being The Joker (and Ra's) again.

Origins, it was heavily advertised as Black Mask and Deathstroke, and both were barely in it, Joker and Bane were the main ones.

So I just expect Scarecrow to be another smoke screen.

maximoose · 04-03-2014 4:44pm

HUSH!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

thomas anderson. · 04-03-2014 4:46pm

I bought an xbox especially to play the first game.

looks like ill have to do it again to play the last.

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 4:57pm

Okay....I kinda take back my Batmobile comment :eek:

Series Finale as well, gonna end with a bang!

tok9 · 04-03-2014 5:01pm

Looks like we should have a trailer soon.

I'd be surprised if it's in game but I've always loved the Batman trailers.

Edit: Here we go

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/03/04/bak-debut-trailer-90348602352.aspx

Edit 2: That's better :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLv8xko2teg

Mr Freeze · 04-03-2014 5:13pm

Great trailer.

Was hoping to hear Batman speak, so we'd know if it was Kevin Conroy or that "rank amateur" that did the voice in Origins.

Radiosonde · 04-03-2014 5:18pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Hopefully the next gen can handle civilian NPCs. :pac:

There probably won't be civilian NPCs on the streets because Batman can't go around callously mowing down civilians...

...Or villains now that I think about it. Actually I don't know how they're going to get around that.

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 5:21pm

Oh My God that was brilliant

Can a kind Mod rename this thread to 'Batman: Arkham Knight' please?

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2014 5:21pm

Ah they cleared up the civilian NPC problem straight away as they all have to abandon the city at the start

humanji · 04-03-2014 5:22pm

Radiosonde wrote:

There probably won't be civilian NPCs on the streets because Batman can't go around callously mowing down civilians...

...Or villains now that I think about it. Actually I don't know how they're going to get around that.

There's plenty of ways to get around it (I think it was Driver that had NPC's all those years ago, and when you drove at them, they all dove out of the way etc). Unfortunately, the Scarecrow's warning at the start of the video makes it fairly clear that the general public won't be in the game.

Mickeroo · 04-03-2014 5:24pm

Radiosonde wrote: »

There probably won't be civilian NPCs on the streets because Batman can't go around callously mowing down civilians...

...Or villains now that I think about it. Actually I don't know how they're going to get around that.

They could just go he assassins creed route and have it be effectively be game over if you run a civ/villain over. Harder to do when there's a car I suppose but all they have to do is have them dive out of the way really, sure it might look silly but I'd take that over not having a living breathing city to play in.

abbir · 04-03-2014 5:28pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Hopefully the next gen can handle civilian NPCs.

tok9 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLv8xko2teg

"Abandon the city"

04-03-2014 5:42pm

That trailer is fantastic, there's an epic feel and sense of scope that the last two games have lacked. Really hope that the finished product is half as good as the trailer, as if it is the Batman fan inside me will be in heaven. I really do hope that this time we get to drive the Batmobile, imagine how much fun it would be to smash around Gotham in what appears to be a street legal tank.

Batman - Arkham Knight

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