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Snobby Artist sues love/hate!

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    #32
    Nemeses
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    dar100 wrote: »

    I have them in a cellar, would you care to come see them, it's a dark cellar:D

    Sounds like a date.

    PM sent.


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    #33
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    yeah think so,he also had a hard on for gentle john gilligan too.....


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    #34
    dar100
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    Nemeses wrote: »
    Sounds like a date.

    PM sent.

    Your so romantic:D


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    #35
    Nemeses
    Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    dar100 wrote: »
    Your so romantic:D


    You've no idea what you've let yourself in for :pac:


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    #36
    dar100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Nemeses wrote: »
    You've no idea what you've let yourself in for :pac:

    I like surprises, they excite me, much:D


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    #37
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Rachiee wrote: »
    I remember when utv were filming in my house before for the irish come dine with me auditions they had to take a list of all the art work on the wall so that if the clip was used it could be cleared for copywrite so there obviously is something in his claim. Dont think its reasonable for him to have a problem with it though. Hes one of the countries most popular artists. I cant see rich people stopping buying his work just because they seen it on love hate.

    That's because you could have copyright prints on your walls. An original artwork is different. I could see people not buying his art due to the connection.

    Although I am not sure how copyright works for original art work you own. Not sure if you own an art work you have all copyright protection to put it on merchandise. The artist must retain some rights for use of their name etc... Especially if you consider many artists use a theme that can often create very similar works.


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    #38
    MonstaMash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    kylith wrote: »
    Or is it that he doesn't want his pictures associated with drug taking?

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Garda+probe+Sharkey+dope+smoking+allegations.-a0107732481 :eek: ;):p


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    #39
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Gatling wrote: »
    But taxpayers in ballymum are subsidising his tax breaks

    ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.


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    #40
    Gummy Panda
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    Maybe he has a point. If his paintings get associated with the gangster art, he might not be able to sell them to his intended audience. Also "the lads in ballymun" probably wouldn't buy them anyway.

    Its kind of like those Scarface prints in a frame. At one stage (many years ago) that was a cool film buff thing to do. Now its every scumbag who wants to be gangster or a rapper has one hanging in his bedroom.


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    #41
    ThisRegard
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    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    The guy wants a few quid - whats the issue ? He should get paid, same as any band or artist that gets used on the soundtrack.

    He was surely paid when the picture was purchased ? If I buy one of his paintings and hang it in my home or office, do I need to to take note of the number of people who view it and send a cheque to him based on this every year ?

    And why has it taken him so long to decide to sue, surely the popularity of the show has nothing to do with it.


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    #42
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Celly Smunt wrote: »
    ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.

    Are you implying there all unemployed bums
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    #43
    Zillah
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    Lot of people misunderstanding basic copyright here. The artist (be it a photographer, musician or painter) owns the right to make copies of their work or exploit it commercially, no one else has that right. If RTE bought a painting they bought a physical object, they don't automatically inherit the right to make copies of that work or use it commercially. Using the painting in a TV show is exploiting it for commercial purposes. You can't use a song on the soundtrack just because you bought the CD, either.
    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    TBH this smacks of the same sort of Mé Fein stuff that wedding photographers do where they hang on to the copyright so the can fleece the guests as well. :mad:

    You mean when they exercise their legal right to gain income from copies of their photography, which is how they pay their bills and recoup the immense cost of their equipment? What a load of ingrates! Idiots should know that you have the right to their photographs just because you attended the wedding.


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    #44
    wilkie2006
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    Of course he's entitled to be pi$$ed off. Sharkey's a brand, aiming to appeal to a particular demographic.
    “Having my work portrayed as liked by a dangerous killer and drug addict is the problem. It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”

    By associating his product with a particular lifestyle, viewership and audience, RTE has potentially damaged his saleability among those who had traditionally bought his pieces.


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    #45
    dar100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Celly Smunt wrote: »
    ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.

    Yes we pay tax on our illegal earnings dumb ass, we get good rates


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    #46
    Christ the Redeemer
    Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    Gatling wrote: »
    Are you implying there all unemployed bums

    This will be a very popular opinion on boards.


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    #47
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Headline: 'Stupid man complains about free advertising'


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    #48
    Christ the Redeemer
    Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    Those paintings having been in love hate will probably be worth an absolute fortune in the third party market. That is probably annoying the **** out of him too.


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    #49
    Conmaicne Mara
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    The IRA will be suing next :rolleyes:


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    #50
    darkdubh
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    Anyone wrote: »
    Avatar are suing after what Fran did to yer one.
    Funny you should mention Avatar.They're all at this sueing lark, those artists.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/01/brit_artist_sues_iavatari_for_50m/


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    #51
    [Deleted User]
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    I cant remember who it was that said a while back that 'Rashers' paintings were like something Quentin Tarantino would buy so im surprised some of his work wasnt bought by the producers for the show.

    Sharkey's lawsuit has a thinly veiled sense of 'I done those in case you didnt know' about it.


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    #52
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    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    The IRA will be suing next :rolleyes:


    Didnt they throw a brick or something through the front of the RTE building in Montrose with a note tied to it stating that the "Irish Republican Army consist of respectable family men who are disgusted with how they are being portrayed...." etc?


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    #53
    Conmaicne Mara
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Didnt they throw a brick or something through the front of the RTE building in Montrose with a note tied to it stating that the "Irish Republican Army consist of respectable family men who are disgusted with how they are being portrayed...." etc?

    Lol, I think it was actually a pipe bomb minus the fuse, a demonstration of their great restraint in the face of adversity :pac:

    Courtcase be come craic though, fella in the balaclava asked by the judge if he represents the IRA "I can neither confirm nor deny that accusation".


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    #54
    Guy:Incognito
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    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    The guy wants a few quid - whats the issue ? He should get paid, same as any band or artist that gets used on the soundtrack.

    Its nothing like the same thing.

    He painted a picture and sold it. Everything to do with the picture should belong to whoever bought it.


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    #55
    [Deleted User]
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    Newsflash: Carrick Swan GAA club in County Tipperary are set to sue over
    Luke battering a Swan to death
    Local rivals Carrick Davins on the other hand wish to try Luke at full forward next game

    :D


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    #56
    razorblunt
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    BadCharlie wrote: »
    Ford will sue now, cause the drug dealers on the show are showing driving in ford cars.
    Next it will be Coke suing

    Interesting to see the new channel 4 drama southcliffe has blocked out car logos on steering wheels etc.


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    #57
    FloatingVoter
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Its nothing like the same thing.

    He painted a picture and sold it. Everything to do with the picture should belong to whoever bought it.

    RTE are entitled to burn it if they wish to. More sensibly, they could also place it in the foyer out in Montrose. They're not entitled to reproduce it electronically or digitally for profit. RTE cocked up and should have used a long dead artist. Rembrandt isn't suing these days and is popular with local crimelords.


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    #58
    anncoates
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    He looks quite different to his days in The Undertones.

    Is it all the hard living?


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    #59
    Sir Oxman
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    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    I would hardly Sharkey snobby OP.
    The remark he supposedly made about Ballymun does make him an a*sehole, and a snob.


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    #60
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    The guy wants a few quid - whats the issue ? He should get paid, same as any band or artist that gets used on the soundtrack.
    I'm assuming he sold them and got paid already?

    Edit:
    I see the explanantion posted above.


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    #61
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    Sharkey has form when it comes to causing a bit of a stir. He makes that quip about Ballymun but asks us for perspective when it comes to judging Katie Price to be the most hated woman in Britain. :rolleyes:

    http://metro.co.uk/2010/02/02/katie-price-transformed-into-hated-moors-murderer-myra-hindley-70067/


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