Goats

Jimy1971 · 20-10-2014 12:23am #1

Met 2 wild goats this morning whole we were out doing a fox best with the club. They were huge. My question is, do you need a special licence to shoot them?

Jonty · 20-10-2014 2:54am

No permit required. But they are hardy boyos, so the side by side and no. 7 shot is out of the question. .223 as a minimum. Just make sure they are truly wild and the landowner has no problem with it.

And a clothes peg for your nose when you meet a puc.

dodderangler · 20-10-2014 10:15am

The smell off goat is enough for me to not bother shooting em.
And the meat tastes like it smells.

realdanbreen · 20-10-2014 10:17am

Jimy1971 wrote: »

Met 2 wild goats this morning whole we were out doing a fox best with the club. They were huge. My question is, do you need a special licence to shoot them?

What possible satisfaction could you get by picking up a gun and shooting them?

Cass · 20-10-2014 10:34am

It is a necessity.

They can destroy forestry, farm land, and effect livestock & other fauna in the area. They may be feral which is a result of purposeful release, careless management and/or ignorance. In which case they need culled.

If they are loose livestock then as hunters we know better than to shoot without checking first so if the land owner/farmer owns them, and wants them returned we inform him of their location and he can retrieve them.

I can sense by the "tone" of your post that you may not agree with hunting/shooting in general and while you are welcome to take part in the forum please be aware that this is the hunting forum and as such it is for hunters so some topics and pictures may upset or disturb you. If so i would recommend you refrain from viewing the forum.

Birdnuts · 20-10-2014 12:22pm

dodderangler wrote: »

The smell off goat is enough for me to not bother shooting em.
And the meat tastes like it smells.

The youngsters and females aren't too bad. I shot several for a local landowner many moons ago and the meat was devine. Especcially in stews or using receipes I got out of an old turkish cook book my other half got on holidays. They go very well as part of a kebab:D. Your right though about the Males. Even the dogs couldn't stomach that stuff. Theres a herd on Blessginton Game Club land at the moment with several males courting the females. You can tell where the herd is easily by the smell which can be got up to 500m away I discovered recently!!

transit260 · 20-10-2014 1:37pm

heres a good reason to cull them Realdenbreen,i shoot them regularly,they reproduce at a fair rate if left to their own devices,keeping them at a managable number is good for the farmers aand the goats,

and heres the benefits of shooting them,plenty of grub for all the family.

realdanbreen · 22-10-2014 9:17am

Fair enugh transit.

Grizzly 45 · 23-10-2014 6:50pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

ThYour right though about the Males. Even the dogs couldn't stomach that stuff. Theres a herd on Blessginton Game Club land at the moment with several males courting the females. You can tell where the herd is easily by the smell which can be got up to 500m away I discovered recently!!

If thats not bad enough...Try prepping one of the heads for a mount!:eek:
Did a skull mount for mine.Boiling the rancid head was one of the most stomach retching jobs I've had to do in a while,as you need to seperate the horns from the quick on the skull.Unlike deer ,goats horns are live growths with blood vessels under the horn.You have to get those off and clean them out thoroughly before putting them back on the skull .
Even in death goats are stubborn and stink.:eek:

hiddenmongoose · 23-10-2014 7:35pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Even in death goats are stubborn and stink.:eek:

Aka billys revenge !!

westwicklow · 04-11-2014 1:34am

Birdnuts wrote: »

........Theres a herd on Blessginton Game Club land at the moment with several males courting the females. You can tell where the herd is easily by the smell which can be got up to 500m away I discovered recently!!

Numbers in one herd in the Blessington area have greatly diminished in the past ten years much to the dismay of the "non-agricultural-use" landowner.

Varmint Shooter · 09-11-2014 12:58am

A friend of mine shoots a few every so often for landowners & gives the meat to a Nigerian couple in the area. They love goat meat.

cerastes · 09-11-2014 1:13am

Not really likely to be on the cards, but I wouldnt mind getting into something like this.
That picture looks from fairly close, are they generally wary? Id thought they would have been, especially if one was shot, would you ever get near the rest? what range do they have to be taken from? ie if they are big but flighty.
Are 30 30 in any way common here or likely for this? if .223 is the minimum, whats the most suitable?
for some reason I was expecting they'd be on much rougher, hilly ground.
Still, doesnt sound like good eatin.

meathstevie · 09-11-2014 1:48am

cerastes wrote: »

Not really likely to be on the cards, but I wouldnt mind getting into something like this.
That picture looks from fairly close, are they generally wary? Id thought they would have been, especially if one was shot, would you ever get near the rest? what range do they have to be taken from? ie if they are big but flighty.
Are 30 30 in any way common here or likely for this? if .223 is the minimum, whats the most suitable?
for some reason I was expecting they'd be on much rougher, hilly ground.
Still, doesnt sound like good eatin.

They wouldn't be real wild goats, they're more than likely the offspring of farm escapees and would hang around their original release area provided that there's sufficient food, cover and tranquillity.

As far as I'm aware any well placed .22 center fire and up will do the job and so will the heavy large pellet shotgun loads within reasonable range.

Birdnuts · 09-11-2014 3:36am

Varmint Shooter wrote: »

A friend of mine shoots a few every so often for landowners & gives the meat to a Nigerian couple in the area. They love goat meat.

Goat meat stew is very popular in most of Africa. Had it in Kenya on a trip back in 09' and I have to say it went down very well with the local "Tusker" beer.

cerastes · 09-11-2014 3:58am

Im suprised to hear goat meat is so bad, Im sure it is if its reported as such.
I must have had kid or young female goat, or I thought it was, maybe it was sheep. I couldnt tell, it was like a casserole in a tagine dish, sick of tagines after that trip, not sick from them, just eating them all the bloody time, tasted nice at first.

Are all carcasses removed or how are they dealt with, ie the males? if they stink and are big, that seems like a bit of a job getting it off a hillside.

German pointer · 09-11-2014 6:26am

Goat meat espically kid is very tasty and as said above the puck tends to smell quite bad i feed the pucks to the dogs and eat the kids myself.

How easy it is to get close to them depends on how often the heard is shot at. I've had to stalk them like deer sometimes and other times I've litterly had to chase them off the road and into the field so as to get a safe shot.l

cerastes · 09-11-2014 11:59am

If anyone plans to go shooting goats and thinks they would be out and want some help or just to pass on a bit of experience,I'd like to go along,I'm in Dublin,so WWicklow is near to me,maybe pick up some goat pick up some goat ,see what it tastes like home cooked?

Brian Larkin · 11-11-2014 2:15am

Jonty wrote: »

No permit required. But they are hardy boyos, so the side by side and no. 7 shot is out of the question. .223 as a minimum. Just make sure they are truly wild and the landowner has no problem with it.

And a clothes peg for your nose when you meet a puc.

we have goats,when its time to despatch one for a curry I use a B+P 3" 56g #0.

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