[facemelter]

Originally Posted by The Scientician

The officers involved were charged. I'm not sure what the point is in releasing the footage.

only two have been charged , afaik

[KamiKazeKitten]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Which would be absolutely super if cops are just supposed to hold people down all day. Except they are'nt, hence the little problem of non compliance

Call for backup if they need to, put him in a cell if they need.

Cops aren't supposed to beat people bloody, hence their little problem of a trial hanging over their heads.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by KamiKazeKitten

Call for backup if they need to, put him in a cell if they need.

Cops aren't supposed to beat people bloody, hence their little problem of a trial hanging over their heads.

You mean call for the backup that already had been called for and had arrived? That backup? Presumably the idea of locking him in a cell had occurred to them and would explain why they were trying to handcuff the nutter before they could transport him to said cell?

Cops are supposed to beat people bloody, they're even supposed to shoot people dead, so long as that's the appropriate level of force that circumstances dictate.

[vetinari]

I think Bambi is just trolling tbh.

I live in Boston and definitely notice a difference in the police over here. I hope that these thugs were just outliers in the police force. However, in general, you notice far more immediate attitude from police officers over here. A lot would shout at you as soon as talk to you (lads doing traffic duty for instance).

All the police officers in this video should have been charged.

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Which would be absolutely super if cops are just supposed to hold people down all day. Except they are'nt, hence the little problem of non compliance

Yep. Thats why closed mental wards and secure hospitals have people dying every day of the week - they just can't deal with non-compliance without beatin a fella to pulp.

[Buttonftw]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Or his face got smacked off the concrete or he got tazed in the face, or or or..

Interesting logic though, he got beaten up and died therefore the coppers must be in the wrong because omg omg omg look at the video.

Yeah, let's not look at the video. Let's ignore the bit when the cop said he was going to **** him up.

[MagicSean]

Originally Posted by Nodin

Yep. Thats why closed mental wards and secure hospitals have people dying every day of the week - they just can't deal with non-compliance without beatin a fella to pulp.

i presume you are excluding suicides from your calculations?

[Nodin]

Originally Posted by MagicSean

i presume you are excluding suicides from your calculations?

......why would I include suicides in a discussion on the level of force and methods used to move a mentally ill person by a number of security personnel?

And why would you even mention it...?

[MagicSean]

Originally Posted by Nodin

......why would I include suicides in a discussion on the level of force and methods used to move a mentally ill person by a number of security personnel?

And why would you even mention it...?

You brought up deaths in mental health wards. Do you actually know anything about them?

[Dead Man Walking]

Sick to my stomach after watching that, actually turned it off shortly after the second two cops arrived on the scene.

****ing humans

[RichieC]

Originally Posted by Bambi

You mean call for the backup that already had been called for and had arrived? That backup? Presumably the idea of locking him in a cell had occurred to them and would explain why they were trying to handcuff the nutter before they could transport him to said cell?

Cops are supposed to beat people bloody, they're even supposed to shoot people dead, so long as that's the appropriate level of force that circumstances dictate.

You should probably get your facts straight before you decide to make a complete arsehole out of yourself.

[token101]

Jesus. I'd normally be for defending cops, but f***ing hell. Guy twirling his baton, then both swinging at him as he's running. I hope they get convicted. As cops, a lifetime in segregation, tantamount to solitary confinement, awaits. They'll wish they'd killed themselves.

[WindSock]

How was the sound recorded?

[Parsley]

Originally Posted by WindSock

How was the sound recorded?

the cops' digital recorders i think.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by vetinari

I think Bambi is just trolling tbh.

Not really, I just find it funny that people think their oh-the-humanity-that's-so-waffles response to seeing a guy being beaten is in anyway as valid as an understanding of the relevant laws or use of force matrix that the cops were operating under.

Am I defending the coppers? Nope, I'm just having a go at this lot posting here. Cos I cant tell see whats going on in most of that video and what I can see would be in compliance with most use of force policies. If it turns out that they tazed the guy in the face repeatedly or smashed his skull in with a torch then they'll go down. If you can see where that happens in the video post the timings up. Third time of asking and no takers for that, odd