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14-04-2012, 08:53   #31
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What a troll.
Look up the history. Oliver Cromwell tried to over throw the Monarchy and many people should like him for that in Ireland. The problem comes with what he did during Drogheda. That is the main problem.

But if he hadn't done that, he would probably be admired in some quarters.
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I like the english except for when I'm playing CoD. Then they're a bunch of camping ba$tards. Yeah, sit in the corner with your barrat you camping fcuking ba$tard. You're good at camping aren't you. Come over here on a visit and stay for 800 FCUKING YEARS. YER ALL CAMPING BA$TARDS!!!

Until some french guy starts whinging and we both start insulting him. CoD really brings out the inherent racism in everyone.

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I'm not British in the slightest, but I and my family and neighbours are all so devastatingly attractive to Britain that they keep offering us citizenship. It must be rough for them, getting knocked back by us all the time, a bit like being the fat burd at a disco.
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Look up the history. Oliver Cromwell tried to over throw the Monarchy and many people should like him for that in Ireland. The problem comes with what he did during Drogheda. That is the main problem.

But if he hadn't done that, he would probably be admired in some quarters.
Something like a third of the UK's population died in the civil war. As much as irish ppl hate cromwell, he was far, far worse to his own ppl.
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Look up the history. Oliver Cromwell tried to over throw the Monarchy and many people should like him for that in Ireland. The problem comes with what he did during Drogheda. That is the main problem.

But if he hadn't done that, he would probably be admired in some quarters.
The 11 year siege of Galway wasn't very popular here at the time............
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Something like a third of the UK's population died in the civil war. As much as irish ppl hate cromwell, he was far, far worse to his own ppl.
Yep. That is true. He was hated in many quarters but some people in Ireland would like him if he didn't do what he did in Ireland at the time.
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Look up the history. Oliver Cromwell tried to over throw the Monarchy and many people should like him for that in Ireland. The problem comes with what he did during Drogheda. That is the main problem.

But if he hadn't done that, he would probably be admired in some quarters.
I have 'look up the history'. He is the Gaelics mans worst enemy thoughtout history. He is our Hitler. No northern Protestant from boards.ie will change that
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I have 'look up the history'. He is the Gaelics mans worst enemy thoughtout history. He is our Hitler. No northern Protestant from boards.ie will change that
Ah, you can't be taking Keith seriously. That's going about things the wrong way entirely. He's a bit like a Morrissey album. Full of hilarity once you get the joke.
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I would regard myself as west British and proud. I like the British people their traditions, history, culture, music, comedy, sport. But I am secure enough been Irish to say something like that.

Like it or lump it they had a huge influence on us and our identity and still do. But largely now they are very good neighbours. What more could a country ask for.
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I would regard myself as west British and proud. I like the British people their traditions, history, culture, music, comedy, sport. But I am secure enough been Irish to say something like that.

Like it or lump it they had a huge influence on us and our identity and still do. But largely now they are very good neighbours. What more could a country ask for.
Would you vote to re join the Union?
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Would you vote to re join the Union?
No I think it is advantageous for Ireland to remain independent as in economically, influence, keeping our own Atlantic resources oil included, also been small keeps us out of stupid wars which Britain always end up in.

I am happy to be out of the Union, but I am also happy with the recent state of Anglo/Irish relations. I actually enjoyed the Royal visit last year as did most Irish.
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I have 'look up the history'. He is the Gaelics mans worst enemy thoughtout history. He is our Hitler.
Godwin this early? To be fair to Keith he has something of a point. Cromwell gave quarter more than average for a general of his time. He certainly gave more in Ireland than in England. That was an unbelievably vicious civil war. Atrocities a go go. Tens of thousands dead in single battles and 100's of thousands dead from disease in the trail of it.

In all but one of the towns that negotiated a surrender with Cromwell he gave safe passage to the civilians. The exception being Wexford, though his troops went batshít on that occasion. He issued orders when he arrived that no civilian was to be harmed or robbed of property and actually hanged a few of his own men(inc officers) for breaking this order.

Was Cromwell a cúnt? Yes, but no more than most Puritan Religious nutbags at the time, especially if moving about in a Catholic country. Was he "Irelands Hitler"? The people left in command after him were way worse. It was they who kicked off the mass killings, theft and enslavement of us.
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Oliver Cromwell is misunderstood in history. He should really be liked in Ireland. If he didn't do what he did with the killing at Drogheda, people would admire him much more than they do.

You just have to look at it from a historical point of view and understand these things happened back then. Cromwell actually give orders for his soldiers to not harm the country folk.
Yeah just like Hitler, if he hadn't done the concentration camps and the gassings and the wars etc etc. But these things happened back then.

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