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Group 1

14.01 Woodenbridge 4(1) Driuds Heath 2(1)
22.01 Kilcoole 4.5(2) Woodenbridge 1.5
27.01 Arklow 4(2) Druids Heath(1) 2
04.02 Kilcoole 4(1) Arklow 2
12.02 Woodenbridge 3.5 (1) Wicklow 2.5 (0.5)
18.02 Kilcoole 4(2) Wicklow 2(1)
25.02 Wicklow 5(2) Druids Heath 1(0)
25.02 Woodenbridge 3(1) Arklow 3(1)

Group 2
11.02 Tulfarris 3(0) South County 3(0)
11.02 Blessington Lakes 5(2) Killerig 1(0)
18.02 Blessington Lakes 4.5(1.5) South County 1.5(0)
18.02 Tulfarris 4(1) Killerig 2(0)
25.02 Tulfarris 5(2) Blessington Lakes 1(0)
25.02 South County 3(1) Coollattin 3(1)

Group 1
Kilcoole pld 3 - pts 12.5 - away wins 5
Woodenbridge pld 3 - pts 12 - away wins 4
Wicklow pld 3 - pts 9.5 - away wins 3.5
Arklow pld 3 - pts 9 - away wins 3
Druids Heath pld 3 - pts 5 - away wins 2


Group 2
Tulfarris pld 3 - pts 12 - away wins 3
B Lakes pld 3 - pts 10.5 - away wins 3.5
South County pld 3 - pts 7.5 - away wins 1
Killerig pld 2 - pts 3 - away wins 0
Coollatin pld 1 - pts 3 - aways wins 1

[BGPKAV]

Originally Posted by sodbuster77

Saturday's match between South County and Killerig has been postponed until 3 March

thats off

[Redzah]

Good win for Druids Heath yesterday against Kilcoole. 3.5 (1.5 away) to 2.5 giving a bit of confidence going into the Barton. Will take a few years to develop the team but looking forward to causing an upset or two.

Group 1
Kilcoole pld 4 - pts 15 - away wins 6
Woodenbridge pld 4 - pts 12 - away wins 4
Wicklow pld 3 - pts 9.5 - away wins 3.5
Arklow pld 3 - pts 9 - away wins 3
Druids Heath pld 4 - pts 8.5 - away wins 3.5

Only a 6-0 for Wicklow against Arklow will do it for them, or a 6-0 for Arklow will tie them with Kilcoole on points and away wins. What happens then?

Group 2
Tulfarris pld 3 - pts 12 - away wins 3
B Lakes pld 3 - pts 10.5 - away wins 3.5
South County pld 3 - pts 7.5 - away wins 1
Killerig pld 2 - pts 3 - away wins 0
Coollatin pld 1 - pts 3 - aways wins 1

[Mr. Larson]

Well done - that's got to be classified as an 'upset' based on previous matches. Were you playing? Seems like Kilcoole (15pts) can only be overtaken by Woodenbridge. Wicklow & Arklow face each other on Saturday and I imagine that's going to be a pretty even contest so unlikely that either side is going to overtake Kilcoole - Wicklow will need to whitewash Arklow which isn't likely. Anyone know who Woodenbridge have up next and when?

[Redzah]

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky

Well done - that's got to be classified as an 'upset' based on previous matches. Were you playing? Seems like Kilcoole (15pts) can only be overtaken by Woodenbridge. Wicklow & Arklow face each other on Saturday and I imagine that's going to be a pretty even contest so unlikely that either side is going to overtake Kilcoole - Wicklow will need to whitewash Arklow which isn't likely. Anyone know who Woodenbridge have up next and when?

Ya def an upset but first time we had one of our strongest teams out. Before that the combinations were a bit out and we had combined handicaps of 18-20 in places which is a disadvantage straight away.

Yep, i was playing, won my match on 17, didn't play my best but enough to win a topsy turvey match. I don't imagine a whitewash either way between wicklow or arklow so Kilcoole look good to progress. Woodenbridge are done by my reckoning as it looks like they have played all 4 and airguitar mistakenly put in played 3 instead of 4.

[Mr. Larson]

Originally Posted by Redzah

Ya def an upset but first time we had one of our strongest teams out. Before that the combinations were a bit out and we had combined handicaps of 18-20 in places which is a disadvantage straight away.

Yep, i was playing, won my match on 17, didn't play my best but enough to win a topsy turvey match. I don't imagine a whitewash either way between wicklow or arklow so Kilcoole look good to progress. Woodenbridge are done by my reckoning as it looks like they have played all 4 and airguitar mistakenly put in played 3 instead of 4.

That's what the Garden Trophy is all about - trying some new combinations etc. Sometimes the pairing bang on 14 aren't always the strongest so it's worth giving a few different combo's a lash (mind you, a 9 and a 12 are definitely going to find it tough! )

[matt-dublin]

Originally Posted by Redzah

Ya def an upset but first time we had one of our strongest teams out. Before that the combinations were a bit out and we had combined handicaps of 18-20 in places which is a disadvantage straight away.

Yep, i was playing, won my match on 17, didn't play my best but enough to win a topsy turvey match. I don't imagine a whitewash either way between wicklow or arklow so Kilcoole look good to progress. Woodenbridge are done by my reckoning as it looks like they have played all 4 and airguitar mistakenly put in played 3 instead of 4.

Saw you guys ahead of us yesterday Red, kilcoole looked like they were struggling a little especially around 15?

[Redzah]

Originally Posted by matt-dublin

Saw you guys ahead of us yesterday Red, kilcoole looked like they were struggling a little especially around 15?

Believe it or not they halved the 15th. Guy hits his 3rd what looked like O.B. and i hit mine to 10 feet. They get up to the green and the made it past the OB fence and pitched to 15 feet from heavy rough and canned the putt. My partner rolls the 10 footer 1.5 feet passed and they tight sods ask me to putt the 1.5 footer for the half (which of course i made). You'd have think that they would be happy to walk off the hole with a half.

Anyways what goes around comes around so here's what happened on 17, unbelieveable stuff;

We were 1 up and on the green in 2 and 30 feet short of the pin and the others were 12 feet from the pin in 2. I hit a terrible putt short and came back down the slope. Our putt again and my partner hits it 5 feet past. Their guy putts down to a foot. For the craic i said nothing and knocked in the 5 footer. Their guy looks at me and again i said nothing. He goes up to knock it in to go level and lips out from 1 foot and the ball goes 25 feet down the slope and the miss the 25 footer to lose the hole and the match.

Anyways it was a crazy match Matt(eson?) which included an eagle 2 at the 1st for us. I hit one of those 300 yarders over the path and my partner knocks it in from 80 yards

[matt-dublin]

Originally Posted by Redzah

Believe it or not they halved the 15th. Guy hits his 3rd what looked like O.B. and i hit mine to 10 feet. They get up to the green and the made it past the OB fence and pitched to 15 feet from heavy rough and canned the putt. My partner rolls the 10 footer 1.5 feet passed and they tight sods ask me to putt the 1.5 footer for the half (which of course i made). You'd have think that they would be happy to walk off the hole with a half.

Anyways what goes around comes around so here's what happened on 17, unbelieveable stuff;

We were 1 up and on the green in 2 and 30 feet short of the pin and the others were 12 feet from the pin in 2. I hit a terrible putt short and came back down the slope. Our putt again and my partner hits it 5 feet past. Their guy putts down to a foot. For the craic i said nothing and knocked in the 5 footer. Their guy looks at me and again i said nothing. He goes up to knock it in to go level and lips out from 1 foot and the ball goes 25 feet down the slope and the miss the 25 footer to lose the hole and the match.

Anyways it was a crazy match Matt(eson?) which included an eagle 2 at the 1st for us. I hit one of those 300 yarders over the path and my partner knocks it in from 80 yards

Sounds interesting alright, we were out for pierce purcell training which was interesting, we had 35 points for it with about 6-7 one pointers.

PS for the 2nd i had a 7 iron in on sat , pitched to the bank on the front and bouced back into the water, gutted! 348 yards GPs point to point mesurement

you're not too far off on the above Red(mond?)

[Redzah]

Originally Posted by matt-dublin

Sounds interesting alright, we were out for pierce purcell training which was interesting, we had 35 points for it with about 6-7 one pointers.

PS for the 2nd i had a 7 iron in on sat , pitched to the bank on the front and bouced back into the water, gutted! 348 yards GPs point to point mesurement

you're not too far off on the above Red(mond?)

Two big hits there matt, not gonna add fuel to the 300 yard fire again but u know my stance and i know yours. Either way a drive and 7 to the 2nd are good strikes.

Hows ur pierce purcell team looking? One thing which I see a little on our Garden County team/panel is a bit of an attitude of 'sure we're only new to this and they are strong so we'll do our best'. While the above is true to a certain extent i think we should set our sights much higher and every player should expect to win their match. I'd love to get the squad together to emphasise this and the importance of coming out of the blocks quickly. I've played enough senior cup and barton shield matches to realise that its hard to claw ur way back if u start poorly.

Anyways thats just my view and i know with it being a new club many won't have been in this competitive environment before and i think it can be used to an advantage. My partner yesterday wasn't even sure of the format and he played away without a care in the world as he hadn't experienced it before and was just enjoying a competitive scenario. He played some great stuff and hit some crucial shots under pressure including a 5 iron to 8 feet on 14 at a key moment. My point is who cares if we are a new club in this environment, we just need to concentrate on playing good golf which basically means par golf in this competition.

[Mr. Larson]

Sounds fairly defeatist alright, Redzah. Team personnel changes so much from year to year as handicaps change and new people are brought in and new combinations are blooded (due to handicap changes). I don't think you could claim that one club is strong based on history, especially before a stroke is taken.

[matt-dublin]

thats pretty interesting alright Red, i wouldn't be keen on the defeatist atitude either, from a morale point of view we need to walk on the first knowing we can win with the attitude to support.

mixed bag in the peirce purcell, some good players but some woeful. We'd one fella inventing shots on the course that i think a pro wouldn't use whilst trying a trick shot in his spare time!

we haven't got the pairings quite right but my pairing did ok with the 35 points and a bucket of one pointers but again the defeatist atitude is about as well.

Im managing the provincial towns and Ill not entertain any of that rubbish.

At the end of the day the compitition is down to the quality of the golf and players, just because we're new to competitive matches IMO means we should be coming with something new and unexpected which from a mental perspective should give us the edge. Especially when you take into account the difficulty of thr course we play and the level of playing skill we actually have.

[Redzah]

Originally Posted by matt-dublin

thats pretty interesting alright Red, i wouldn't be keen on the defeatist atitude either, from a morale point of view we need to walk on the first knowing we can win with the attitude to support.

mixed bag in the peirce purcell, some good players but some woeful. We'd one fella inventing shots on the course that i think a pro wouldn't use whilst trying a trick shot in his spare time!

we haven't got the pairings quite right but my pairing did ok with the 35 points and a bucket of one pointers but again the defeatist atitude is about as well.

Im managing the provincial towns and Ill not entertain any of that rubbish.

At the end of the day the compitition is down to the quality of the golf and players, just because we're new to competitive matches IMO means we should be coming with something new and unexpected which from a mental perspective should give us the edge. Especially when you take into account the difficulty of thr course we play and the level of playing skill we actually have.

Yes exactly. This attitude comes more to the fore towards the back 9 in my opinion as a more experienced team would fight and dig in if they were down in a match and I just think our guys might be more accepting of the fact that they were losing as that is what was expected and then have an 'ah sure we gave it a go' attitude.

I plan on going far in the barton cup this year and I expect to be unbeaten for the rest of the year, however long that lasts. I've played 2 matches and lost the first one and don't plan on losing anymore. I want to give the team confidence in thinking that I am a point to rely on and that they need to win their match. I just think there is a huge difference between 'giving it your best shot' or expecting to win and it impacts on the golf played, decisions made and mental approach.

By the way, I could misreading this attitude but I just get a sense that this is the way and want a winning mentality installed in the squad.

[matt-dublin]

you should install it, who's your team captain and manager?

if they're not doing it someone should.

One thing i really saw during training during the weekend is pairings not communicating shots, like for my playing partner i asked him where he would like to be playing his next shot from so i could try and get it there rather than playing my game for that shot. same with him. and with putting/chipping we were always asking advice from each other from outside 5 feet thich i think is imperative but didn't see too much of on the other pairings.

I would always ask my teammate regardless who it is on his opinion just in case i see something incorrectly etc.

fancy some foresome on saturday morning off the whites??

[Redzah]

Originally Posted by matt-dublin

you should install it, who's your team captain and manager?

if they're not doing it someone should.

One thing i really saw during training during the weekend is pairings not communicating shots, like for my playing partner i asked him where he would like to be playing his next shot from so i could try and get it there rather than playing my game for that shot. same with him. and with putting/chipping we were always asking advice from each other from outside 5 feet thich i think is imperative but didn't see too much of on the other pairings.

I would always ask my teammate regardless who it is on his opinion just in case i see something incorrectly etc.

fancy some foresome on saturday morning off the whites??

Captain is SM. Nice fella and to be honest i don't think he is aware of this and possibly many others aren't either. I just think a meeting in the next few weeks down at the club to discuss a few things would be beneficial for all.

Ya i agree with your point on feeding off you partner and thinking of where he wants to be for the next shot.

Can't make it saturday but we'll get a game sometime soon, i'm down for the singles on sunday alright so want to get a good card in. Do u know if they have a gross prize now that the singles are 18 holes?