Wii U Pre-Launch Discussion

CastorTroy · 16-05-2012 4:18pm

For gamecube pricing, just wondering how much are N64 games on the Wii VC? I think the NES games are a fiver? If the gamecube games are about a tenner, that'd be great.
Think I read the Wii U will have Cloud storage. I'm assuming this will be in the same vein as PS Plus and just give the option to store online.
As we hear about the Nintendo Network, do you think it'll be completely free, if they'll charge or if they'll do a Plus type offer?

This time 3 weeks we should be all the more wiser to it all.

nitromaster · 16-05-2012 4:27pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

For gamecube pricing, just wondering how much are N64 games on the Wii VC? I think the NES games are a fiver? If the gamecube games are about a tenner, that'd be great.
Think I read the Wii U will have Cloud storage. I'm assuming this will be in the same vein as PS Plus and just give the option to store online.
As we hear about the Nintendo Network, do you think it'll be completely free, if they'll charge or if they'll do a Plus type offer?

This time 3 weeks we should be all the more wiser to it all.

SNES games are 800 wii points (€8ish), N64 titles being 1000/10 euro..I'd say Gamecube titles will hit 15 or 20.

Can't complain, missed out so many good titles tbh :P

readyletsgo · 16-05-2012 4:34pm

smokingman wrote: »

20 is far too much considering you can pick them up for a fiver in stores.
Realistically, I see maybe a tenner for them though.

It is Nintendo, you just have to look at the prices for gameboy/colour games on the eshop, they will charge as much as they can for old games.

Sure they will release the sh!ty Gamecube games for €5 or €10.
All the Mario, Zelda's, Metroid etc will be on the estore for min €20 at least. I'll still buy them all!!! :rolleyes:

Fysh · 16-05-2012 5:09pm

readyletsgo wrote: »

It is Nintendo, you just have to look at the prices for gameboy/colour games on the eshop, they will charge as much as they can for old games.

Sure they will release the sh!ty Gamecube games for €5 or €10.
All the Mario, Zelda's, Metroid etc will be on the estore for min €20 at least. I'll still buy them all!!! :rolleyes:

Look at how much they charged for the GBA ports of SNES games, the cheeky gits.

That said, I'm delighted with the VC functionality on the Wii, I happily spent a bunch of money on games that I'd been running in emulators for years before that. Hitting a reasonable price point is the key.

readyletsgo · 16-05-2012 5:13pm

Yeah tbh, if we see GC games on the estore I shall buy them all at any price.

Roll on E3!

CastorTroy · 16-05-2012 5:26pm

Amazon.com now have a few games(Tekken, Ninja Gaiden 3 and Dirt) listed as $49.99

Myrddin · 16-05-2012 6:06pm

readyletsgo wrote: »

Yeah tbh, if we see GC games on the estore I shall buy them all at any price.

Roll on E3!

Seriously? A Gamecube is all of €30 & the games are dirt cheap.

This pay big for old games & smile while doing it approach will have Nintendo rubbing their hands with glee.

Nollog · 16-05-2012 7:07pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Amazon.com now have a few games(Tekken, Ninja Gaiden 3 and Dirt) listed as $49.99

As they have been since e3 2011.

Wii U will probably use the eShop, cash cards not wii points, and transfer stuff from wii somehow.
If they're planning to sell Wii U games as direct download from launch, then they probably will be selling gamecube games too.

Azure_sky · 17-05-2012 9:04am

Depends on the price and many other things. I'll wait six months at least. I see no benefits in being an early adopter. I got burned too many times.

Josey Wales · 17-05-2012 9:21am

The 3DS is the first console I've bought at release. Every other one I've waited at least a year. Sadly I view the 3DS as a big mistake so I will take my time to decide on the WiiU.

As for launch games I'm sure NSMBWiiU will be excellent. I haven't seen or heard of anything else that has me interested.

There is one thing that would make me buy it day one - Super Mario World Wii U. A true sequel to SMW. I know Yoshi's Island is the official sequel but it doesn't feel like it to me.

smokingman · 17-05-2012 4:21pm

Amazon description is up; looks like I was right on the external hard drive option:

Technical Specifications

Console Size – Approximately 1.8-inches tall, 6.8-inches wide and 10.5-inches long.
New Controller – The new controller incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 touch screen and traditional button controls, including two analog circle pads. This combination removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV by creating a second window into the video game world. The rechargeable controller includes a power button, home button, +control pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons and ZL/ZR buttons. It includes a built-in accelerometer and gyroscope, rumble feature, camera, a microphone, stereo speakers, a sensor strip and a stylus.
Other Controls – Up to four Wii Remote (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers can be connected at once. The new console supports all Wii controllers and input devices, including the Nunchuk controller, Classic Controller, Classic Controller Pro and Wii Balance Board.
Media – A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs.
Video Output – Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI, component, S-video and composite.
Audio Output – Uses AV Multi Out connector. Six-channel PCM linear output through HDMI.
Storage – The console will have internal flash memory, as well as the option to expand its memory using either an SD memory card or an external USB hard disk drive.
CPU – IBM Power-based multi-core microprocessor.
GPU – AMD Radeon-based High Definition GPU.
Other – Four USB 2.0 connector slots are included. The new console is backward compatible with Wii games and Wii accessories.

readyletsgo · 17-05-2012 4:40pm

Isnt that Amazon discription what we already know? Flash memory, that can only go up to 64gbs am I right in thinking?

Nollog · 18-05-2012 1:52am

smokingman wrote: »

Amazon description is up; looks like I was right on the external hard drive option:

Technical Specifications

Console Size – Approximately 1.8-inches tall, 6.8-inches wide and 10.5-inches long.
New Controller – The new controller incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 touch screen and traditional button controls, including two analog circle pads. This combination removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV by creating a second window into the video game world. The rechargeable controller includes a power button, home button, +control pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons and ZL/ZR buttons. It includes a built-in accelerometer and gyroscope, rumble feature, camera, a microphone, stereo speakers, a sensor strip and a stylus.
Other Controls – Up to four Wii Remote (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers can be connected at once. The new console supports all Wii controllers and input devices, including the Nunchuk controller, Classic Controller, Classic Controller Pro and Wii Balance Board.
Media – A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs.
Video Output – Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI, component, S-video and composite.
Audio Output – Uses AV Multi Out connector. Six-channel PCM linear output through HDMI.
Storage – The console will have internal flash memory, as well as the option to expand its memory using either an SD memory card or an external USB hard disk drive.
CPU – IBM Power-based multi-core microprocessor.
GPU – AMD Radeon-based High Definition GPU.
Other – Four USB 2.0 connector slots are included. The new console is backward compatible with Wii games and Wii accessories.

All from http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/about

smokingman · 18-05-2012 10:43am

/\/ollog wrote: »

All from http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/about

Maybe I should pay more attention to the first announcement...
After spending time since the last E3 with no real buzz about the WiiU, I'm beginning to ramp up now though.

iceferg · 19-05-2012 9:55pm

I mentioned in an earlier post that id probobly get the wii u on launch if there was a starfox or metroid game . this isnt exactly what i meant

.
its just a rumour for the moment.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2012/05/19/rumor-star-fox-and-metroid-teaming-up-on-wii-u

CastorTroy · 19-05-2012 10:00pm

Saw that. Clearly they wanted you to buy one, iceferg. Since you weren't sure which one, they played it safe and combined the 2.

Nollog · 19-05-2012 10:31pm

http://nollog.net/WiiU/controller.jpg
A QA guy from TT posted this on twitcher.

(Lego city stories tester)

CastorTroy · 19-05-2012 10:42pm

He's gonna have an interesting day next time he's in work.

Main change is the nubs have been replaced by sticks

Star Lord · 19-05-2012 11:08pm

iceferg wrote: »

I mentioned in an earlier post that id probobly get the wii u on launch if there was a starfox or metroid game . this isnt exactly what i meant .
its just a rumour for the moment.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2012/05/19/rumor-star-fox-and-metroid-teaming-up-on-wii-u

I really, really hope it's not true...

CastorTroy wrote: »

Main change is the nubs have been replaced by sticks

Looks like the nunchuck sticks, which is a good thing!

richymcdermott · 20-05-2012 1:35pm

I will be picking it up on launch day but curious id the controller be good for fighting games , ninty has the best dpad out of the 3 but just the yxba buttons seems small , would prefer if the buttons were bit bigger , other than that im happy from what i am seening

Just Like Heaven · 20-05-2012 6:04pm

Will it have Streetpass? :pac:

I'll buy it at launch if it has Streetpass.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 20-05-2012 7:06pm

Not sure if I'll buy it on day one yet. Depends on the launch line-up. I queued up for the Wii when it was released but there was no resisting Twilight Princess that time!

E3 will be interesting.

CastorTroy · 20-05-2012 10:39pm

Was just thinking, what is it about the name that people dislike? I mean if you're getting a game for it you get the game or you ask for it on Wii U. I don't see the problem over saying 360 or PS3. And there's even less syllables in Wii U.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 20-05-2012 10:43pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Was just thinking, what is it about the name that people dislike? I mean if you're getting a game for it you get the game or you ask for it on Wii U. I don't see the problem over saying 360 or PS3. And there's even less syllables in Wii U.

The gaming press HATED the name Wii when it was announced but it still went on to be a top seller. It's a proven brand name now, especially with the casual gaming crowd!

Nollog · 21-05-2012 12:45am

The "core" dislike the name because it contains "Wii", which is seen as an enemy for allowing other people to have fun with the system along with themselves.

BTW, Shane from Invisible Walls on GameTrailers done re-iterated the "you will be pleasantly surprised with the launch line-up" on the Bonus Round Pre-e3-talk-a-thon today.
http://www.gametrailers.com/show/bonusround

readyletsgo · 21-05-2012 12:55pm

Saw the revision or the Umote this morning, must say I like it more with the Sticks instead of the slide pads. Cant wait to play Super Mario bro's 3 and World on the little screen lol.

Wolverine359 · 21-05-2012 8:56pm

readyletsgo wrote: »

Saw the revision or the Umote this morning, must say I like it more with the Sticks instead of the slide pads. Cant wait to play Super Mario bro's 3 and World on the little screen lol.

Yeah, much happier that they included sticks instead of pads. Here's a shot of the redesign:

readyletsgo · 21-05-2012 8:59pm

Here's a slightly smaller one:D

Wolverine359 · 21-05-2012 9:22pm

^sorry!

just assumed that it would be re-sized to fit the forum.

Nollog · 22-05-2012 12:18am

Lazy, you couldn't just click the link I left could you? :P

The thing wrecking my face about the discussions about that controller is the square under the d-pad.
That is 100% an NFC send/receiver.
Not a button!

There is however, a square button next to the power button.
That is a curious addition, imo.

readyletsgo · 22-05-2012 9:25am

/\/ollog wrote: »

Lazy, you couldn't just click the link I left could you? :P

The thing wrecking my face about the discussions about that controller is the square under the d-pad.
That is 100% an NFC send/receiver.
Not a button!

There is however, a square button next to the power button.
That is a curious addition, imo.

Yeah, some people seem to be thinking that little square button next to the power button might be used to switch full game play from your tv to the controller so your family can watch the Baseball or some such type thing.

Makes sense, thats what I'd say it is anyway.

Want to see the back of the controller, whats the grips like??? Hope they are better than the circle pad pro for the 3ds, that thing hurts my hands after a few hours use.

Also, see at the bottom of the controller, under the home button... there is a connection there, just like on the Xbox controller, to connect a head set, for voice chat/online game(crap)...:D

CastorTroy · 22-05-2012 11:05am

Yeah the 2 new squares. One seems to be fixed so probably the NFT thing like was said. the other looks more buttony. I think what puzzles everyone is the fact it's not actually labelled, like every other button.

This day fortnight is when we hopefully find out everything we need to know, bar release date and price. And see it in action. Hope it goes better than the Skyward Sword demo

Kinski · 22-05-2012 1:07pm

Looking forward to seeing this at E3 now; despite never buying anything at launch, I love seeing new hardware! Still sceptical (Kid Icarus: Uprising was a useful reminder that Nintendo themselves can still produce games with utterly retarded controls) but I'm open to persuasion.

readyletsgo · 22-05-2012 1:20pm

Kinski wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing this at E3 now; despite never buying anything at launch, I love seeing new hardware! Still sceptical (Kid Icarus: Uprising was a useful reminder that Nintendo themselves can still produce games with utterly retarded controls) but I'm open to persuasion.

Totally agree with this! I got the game when it came out, yes its pretty, its a great game indeed, but if the controls are terrible, the game is not fun!

I still dont understand why they didnt include CPP control options, just left handed controls. RE:R is still the only game that uses it and its A-MAZ-ING with it!

What were they thinking!

When they make the next Kid Ic game for the 3DS/WiiU they will not let this happen again.

CastorTroy · 22-05-2012 2:05pm

I'm sure there's a better site out there about this but from work I'm limited
http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-wii-u

readyletsgo · 22-05-2012 2:19pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

I'm sure there's a better site out there about this but from work I'm limited
http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-wii-u

Cool! Heard about this, dont know if its true tho, it picks up the 3ds as well.

Lol it looks like a pokemon ball thingy!:pac:

EDIT: Ugh, why wont it like me link the pic!

Myrddin · 22-05-2012 3:19pm

The fact there's so much attention on the controller, & not what the machine can/can't do worries me slightly. I know we were given a tech demo, but the amount of controller hype is borderline ridiculous.

readyletsgo · 22-05-2012 3:34pm

EnterNow wrote: »

The fact there's so much attention on the controller, & not what the machine can/can't do worries me slightly. I know we were given a tech demo, but the amount of controller hype is borderline ridiculous.

I think its just becasue the controller is new and so different from the wiimote.

We all know the WiiU will be as strong (hopefully stronger;)) than xbox/ps.
E3 is only 2 weeks away anyway, ninty will announce all the spec's then.

edit: and sure isnt the build up to E3 each year the most exciting part, with all the crazy rumours flyin around.

CastorTroy · 22-05-2012 3:45pm

readyletsgo wrote: »

Cool! Heard about this, dont know if its true tho, it picks up the 3ds as well.

Lol it looks like a pokemon ball thingy!:pac:

EDIT: Ugh, why wont it like me link the pic!

I'd say it was a mockup done using the pokeball one.

But yeah I like all the crazy rumours flying around. Now if only can get confirmation on the tea making rumour.

Nollog · 22-05-2012 7:00pm

readyletsgo wrote: »

Yeah, some people seem to be thinking that little square button next to the power button might be used to switch full game play from your tv to the controller so your family can watch the Baseball or some such type thing.

Makes sense, thats what I'd say it is anyway.

I agree.

readyletsgo wrote: »

Want to see the back of the controller, whats the grips like??? Hope they are better than the circle pad pro for the 3ds, that thing hurts my hands after a few hours use.

Also, see at the bottom of the controller, under the home button... there is a connection there, just like on the Xbox controller, to connect a head set, for voice chat/online game(crap)...:D

Eh? CPP is moulded perfectly to my hands.
I love holding it. I hate taking it off.

The connection on the bottom is like the wii mote connection, if unchanged from e3 2011.

readyletsgo · 22-05-2012 11:02pm

/\/ollog wrote: »

I agree.

Eh? CPP is moulded perfectly to my hands.
I love holding it. I hate taking it off.

The connection on the bottom is like the wii mote connection, if unchanged from e3 2011.

Oh no it fits brilliantly in the hands dont get me wrong!
Just in my hands for prolonged use my little finger and finger beside that one

go realy numb. But thats prob cause I am now in the Abyss Raid mode, playing for like 4hrs straight and panicking a lot lol.

Nollog · 22-05-2012 11:31pm

Oh my pinky goes numb holding every controller.

http://e3.nintendo.com they updated the site.
They're live-streaming the main conference, a conference dedicated to showing off the software, and a developer roundtable with the hardware manager for the wii u.
Excite!
(wanted to post more on-topic stuff)

CastorTroy · 23-05-2012 12:51am

So that's Tuesday 5th @ 5pm for the E3 Presentation
Thursday 7th @ 2am for the Software Showcase
and Wednesday 6th @ 7:30am for Hardware producer. Guessing if that's live, it's from Japan.

So looks like I'll only be watching the E3 conference live.

Nollog · 23-05-2012 2:56pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

So that's Tuesday 5th @ 5pm for the E3 Presentation
Thursday 7th @ 2am for the Software Showcase
and Wednesday 6th @ 7:30am for Hardware producer. Guessing if that's live, it's from Japan.

So looks like I'll only be watching the E3 conference live.

That's right.

http://e3.nintendo.com

Nintendo E3 Presentation
Tuesday, June 5 @ 9 a.m. PDT

Software Showcase
Wednesday, June 6 @ 6 p.m. PDT

Developer discussion with Wii U hardware producer Katsuya Eguchi(The Animal Crossing guy, if that's important.)
Tuesday, June 5 @ 11:30 p.m. PDT

Time conversion links!

CastorTroy · 23-05-2012 6:11pm

Only an hour? Thought we usually get 90 mins at least. Though maybe this is scheduled time with expectation of overrun.

Nollog · 23-05-2012 7:40pm

I'm not sure it's an hour.
I just chose an hour.

The important thing is the time it starts, imo.

Last years was 70 minutes.

iceferg · 23-05-2012 8:16pm

Does anyone know a good way to watch the press confercence later in the evening , spoiler free .
Last year i didnt get in from work until about 6.30 and watever website i went on had the wii u tablet all over the site . watching the press conference was spoilt a bit knowing what was comming.

CastorTroy · 23-05-2012 9:04pm

/\/ollog wrote: »

I'm not sure it's an hour.
I just chose an hour.

The important thing is the time it starts, imo.

Last years was 70 minutes.

Ah sorry, misread the site. Didn't realise was timeanddate. Just saw Nintendo E3 conference and the blue and assumed was a Ninty site.

As for finding a spoiler free site, you'd be doing well, since I'm sure if the site is showing the conference, they're also going to be giving the news.
Best bet is to bookmark a direct link and stay offline until about 8 or 9 when the replay should be up.

Nollog · 23-05-2012 11:24pm

iceferg wrote: »

Does anyone know a good way to watch the press confercence later in the evening , spoiler free .
Last year i didnt get in from work until about 6.30 and watever website i went on had the wii u tablet all over the site . watching the press conference was spoilt a bit knowing what was comming.

Best bet is to go to youtube.com/e3 with a browser add-on
https://addons.mozil...ema/?src=search
Here's one I used when I still used firefox.
All it does is put a black screen over everything on the page but the video.
It probably works with e3.nintendo.com too though, if you want.

If you use Chrome or Chromium, I use Youtube Options, it does the same thing and other stuff to youtube.

CiDeRmAn · 24-05-2012 9:09pm

I'd say I'll be a day one boy here.
Wondering what Ninty are going to pull out of the hat for the launch, hopefully they'll have learned from the lean times enjoyed by jaded 3DS owners that we have to have games worth owning on day one and a system at a price point that isn't going to be decimated in 6 months time.

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