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Guide to Premiership Football on satellite

  • 17-01-2006 10:27am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Premiership Football is available worldwide on TV.
    I recently watched it on network TV in Canada.
    The Premier League website lists the channels that have the rights.
    Many of these channels broadcast on satellite.
    It's a bit long winded, but essentially pick the country you want.
    Premier League TV channels

    To see listings of specific games you should use LJ's website.
    it really is the best.
    L.J.'s Football on satellite
    Go straight to UK/Irish section.

    many people want to get more Premiership football at home.
    Here's an overview to how.
    FAQS

    Q: What Premiership Football channels can I get on my SKY box ?
    A: Sky Sports , Premiership Plus, Setanta Ireland , RTE


    Q: So what was that channel they had in the pub showing the match last Saturday ?
    A: Most likely ART but possible something else


    Q: Can I get ART on my Sky Digibox ?
    A: No. The Sky dish is pointed at a different satellite. It also uses a diferent encryption system.


    Q: What's the Norwegian and Greek channels that used be in my pub showing the match ?
    A: Canal+ Scandinavia and NOVA. Both unlikely to be there now as ART is much cheaper.


    Q: Is ART the cheapest?
    A: No. The Albanian channel Digit Alb seems to be.


    Q: How many football channels on the ART card?
    A: 4


    Q: Do these channels, in particular ART, have English commentary?
    A: Normally yes but occasionally when they don't the rumours abound that Sky are forcing them to broadcast in their own language for one reason or another.


    Q: What equipment do I need ?
    A: An 80cm dish (slightly bigger than a Sky dish at 60cm) pointed at the Hotbird satellite at 13 degrees east.
    A satellite receiver.
    A viewing card.


    Q: can I use my cheap LIDL satellite kit?
    A: No. The dish is too small at 57cm and the receiver cannot take a viewing card.


    Q: How much does it cost?
    A: basic equipment should run about €250.
    card subscriptions in or about €20 per month.


    Q: How does the card subscription work?
    A: You buy it off-the-shelf in a 3, 6 or 12 month format. It counts down to expiry once you insert it in your receiver.


    Q: My mate gets free Premiership football. How does he do it?
    A: Read the rules. We don't discuss hacking here.


    Q: Does any channel show free to air Premiership football ?
    A: Yes. Channel 8 Turkey sometimes. It broadcasts on the Turksat satellite at 42 degrees east. get a motorised dish if you want this one. you could also try looking for a 'feed'. These are signals used by broadcasters to send matches to each other. Eutelsat at 16 degrees east usually has the most football feeds.


    Q: What channel shows Celtic home SPL games?
    A: Polsat Sport on the Hotbird satellite. it's an expensive card to buy. do a google. Sky Italy have recently started showing some too.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    new 12 month ART sport blue cards can be had for 99 pound which as far as I can tell is the cheapest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Good FAQ. A copy in the ICDGopedia?

    Also 15W telstar sometimes has match feeds.

    Non-football sport such as USA PGA, NHL and NFL feeds are on some satellites, often on a Sunday evening.

    An 80cm dish will work for feeds, but often they are 7/8 FEC or lower power meaning a 1.1m dish is a lot better. Especially if it rains.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    watty wrote:
    Good FAQ. A copy in the ICDGopedia?

    yes. why not. thanks for the kind remark.

    my post on the soccer forum in the same vein is a bit more comprehensive
    if you want to use that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭johnnyboy4711


    looking for a complete system from scratch,so i can watch footie and possibly
    super 14 rugby plus movies!
    The locating of the card seems to be the problem for me!
    thanx
    johnnboy4711


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    do a google for ART Viewing Card or check the adverts in What Satellite magazine.

    there's tons of places selling them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭j4vier


    does art show live serie a matches?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    j4vier wrote:
    does art show live serie a matches?
    NO Serie A

    on another note,
    interestingly they showed a Celtic home SPL game last night.
    good news for Celtic fans as the other channel Polsat is prohibitively hard to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    I have an 80cm dish, using it to get fta+ftv with sky box atm.

    So if I purchase an ART 12 month card for 99pounds, and a new receiver, can i reuse the lnb i was using to get the fta for ART Sports?

    Can someone recommend a decent cheap receiver that would do the job?

    thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    I heard Art might be moving off Hotbird and will only be available on Nilesat, which is impossible to pick up unless you have a very large dish! Thats what puts me off getting the art card

    Snake ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    ah **** :mad:

    how big a dish are we talking here?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I heard Art might be moving off Hotbird and will only be available on Nilesat, which is impossible to pick up unless you have a very large dish! Thats what puts me off getting the art card

    Snake ;)

    This rumour pops up around this time every year. I would not take much notice of it to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    **** it im buying the gear right now


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    ShevY wrote:
    Can someone recommend a decent cheap receiver that would do the job?

    thanks.

    Wont go wrong with a Technomate 1500ci super. Has a cam slot and also a built in card reader, which takes an art card no bother.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECHNOMATE-SATELLITE-RECEIVER-TM-1500-1500CI-PATCHED_W0QQitemZ9709231328QQcategoryZ96970QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭mayto


    are you sure the technomate 1500ci has built in cam?,does not mention viacess cam on that ebay link.this german site is a way cheaper http://www.digi-sat-online.de/product_info.php?cPath=49_60&products_id=34 ,you can get reciever like that technomate which you can add hard disk to.viacess cam for 41 euro http://www.digi-sat-online.de/product_info.php?products_id=336.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Yes I am sure. It has a built in cam which can also be patched. I have this receiver and I have been using it for Art since the beginning of the season. Previous to this model I was using a technomate 5500 with a viaccess cam.

    Check out this forum for more information. You will need to register first and then go to the technomate section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    anyone know anywhere cheap to get the ART SPORT + AL JAZEERA SPORT in1 cards?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    ShevY wrote:
    anyone know anywhere cheap to get the ART SPORT + AL JAZEERA SPORT in1 cards?

    Your probably better off waiting until after the season ends at this stage.

    This link seems good value though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭mayto


    not a bad reciever then Aquos76 for that money.the art /al-jazeera sports card can be got here off ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-Year-ART-SPORT-AL-JAZEERA-SPORT-arabesque-card_W0QQitemZ9707519436QQcategoryZ60837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    for 206 euro incl. del.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Yeah its an excellent receiver. Also if you do purchase it make sure you also buy a null modem cable. This will allow you to patch it yourself.

    The link you referred to was the one I was trying to link to in my previous post. I didnt realise it was a link to microsoft. I have since fixed it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Aquos76 wrote:
    Your probably better off waiting until after the season ends at this stage.

    This link seems good value though

    very impressive lineup of football there :) looks like the perfect replacement for Sky Sports


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭johnnyboy4711


    has it all but my german is non-existant!:( :(:(
    can i do anything?
    any other sites in Ireland(doubt it!)and England???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    any other sites in Ireland(doubt it!)and England???

    In Ireland

    www.satellite.ie

    www.zintek.tv

    LJs live footy site sells the cards too


    tons of UK sites. do a google


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 icameisawiconqu


    free footie on the net, great stuff!

    has flash user guides too, worth a look

    <snip>Naughty link<snip>
    The rights to the channels are sold by Satellite Companies and other corporations to Asian countries, these are then streamed directly over the internet meaning no copying is involved, you are simply viewing a gateway. The programs are all peer to peer, programs such as Limewire, Kazaa etc work in a similar way.

    The streams obviously were not intended for public viewing so are outside the remit of this Forum.

    Banned. Hagar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    The ART CARTE now shows 6 ART Football channels and 2 Al-Jazeera Sports channels.

    European football comprehensively covered live by this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Free football on Hotbird 13e and Astra 19e

    Duna TV - Hungarian League
    TV Bulgaria - Bulgarian League
    SportItalia - Italian Serie B
    DSF - English FA Cup and Coca Cola Cup
    RTR Sport Planeta - Russian League
    TVRi - Romanian League

    expect more as the season commences and it becomes clearer what is available for free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    2M Maroc will show live Premiership this weekend.

    they start with Charlton v Villa.
    http://www.2m.tv/sports/premier_ligue.asp?cat=516


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭mjsmyth


    Is that the 2M that is FTA on Hotbird?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    2M is FTA (=Free) on Hotbird


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  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I think this is the one refereed too.

    2M from Morocco

    12.5W 12583H 2635 2/3

    Coming Up

    Sat 23 Sept - Aston Villa Vs Charlton

    Sat 30 Sept - Charlton Vs Arsenal

    Sat 14 Oct - Liverpool Vs Blackburn

    Sun 22 Oct - Manchester Utd Vs Liverpool

    Sat 28 Oct - Arsenal Vs Everton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    TV8 on turksat showed the man utd versus liverpool match yesterday FTA. I know they show some matches fta but I hadnt checked that station in ages. Have they shown many premiership matches live and FTA this season?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    The Man U v Liverpool was also free to air on LiderTV on 13e. This is not the first time this channel has shown a Man U game this season. They also showed Man U two homes games with Newcastle and Arsenal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    I notice newcomer to Prem football broadcasts Sportsmax at 53w is showing Everton game this weekend FTA.

    Oh to have a motor !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It's on C Band, not Ku, a motor won't be enough
    http://www.lyngsat.com/i707.html

    3.820GHz R circular polarisation

    3m mesh dish, C Band LNBF and specialist receiver. Zaphod knows about all that stuff.

    The coverage map is hard to understand. It might be Americas, or Argentina.

    ... later ...

    I considered further. It is WEST hemi. so not possible here on ANY size dish. Pick by local relays in Trinidad.

    We only get EAST hemi C band from that bird.


    Move along lads. nothing of interest here :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    bloody hell Watty.

    You know your stuff .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Oddly I get paid for knowing all this stuff*.

    But often "knowing stuff" is a recipe for unpopularity, While no-one likes a clever dick, they hate ones that are right.


    Thanks for vote of confidence. Knowing which query to put in Google, though is 90% of the cleverness. Understanding the results is the other 10% :)


    (*But not by Boards. Also the rumours of drungs, fast wimmin, etc are just that.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 dgl


    Hi all,

    Errr, i'm a newbee so apologies if this is an obvious question but.....

    I have set up my satellite system pointing to hotbird and have picked up art sports 1 - 4 with my receiver and viaccess viewing card fine.
    Unfortunately, i cannot seem to find artsports 5 or 6. Are they broadcast on hotbird still?
    If so, is the channel name something other than "Art Sport 5...." ?

    thanks!
    dgl


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    12015 h 27500 is where all the Art channels are located. Yes they should be labelled Art Sport 5 and 6


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 dgl


    thanks for your reply.
    i did a manual channel search on those parameters and it picked up 1 - 4 again fine, but still no 5 or 6.
    could there be a problem with my LNB?
    i notice from websearches that missing channels are sometimes due to that....

    thanks
    dgl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    For those who don't already know.ART Sports have lost the contract for Premiership games from next season.If your thinking of buying a card buy 3 months at most.Unless they buy the rights in a secondary deal from someone else they won't be showing the prem next season.Digitalb is now the best bet although they always showed less matches on saturdays,hopefully this will change.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    superg wrote:
    For those who don't already know.ART Sports have lost the contract for Premiership games from next season.

    The 2007/8 package will be available on Saudi Arabi Showtime which will be a horizontally polarised channel on Nilesat 7w .

    Lets not get into cards. Just the dish.

    A friend in the pub business was warned that he will require a 1.8m or 2m dish for next year . Cost min €1200 for the dish and alignment and stand off above roof pole mount at the back of his pub .

    I thought he was having me on and then I read this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    Apparently, Premiere Sport will have something like 320 of the 380 games next season. They always have english or german audio.

    I don't know if you can just buy a sub card tho or if you need an address in germany to get one..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    To change the audio on Premiere to English.

    Go to your system setup and increase the 4 digit APID number for the channel you are watching by one.

    example change 2316 to 2317

    Works with other broadcasters too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Pal wrote:
    To change the audio on Premiere to English.

    Go to your system setup and increase the 4 digit APID number for the channel you are watching by one.

    example change 2316 to 2317

    Works with other broadcasters too.


    Most (all?) receivers have a button on the remote which allows you to easily switch between the various language streams which are transmitted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    not on sky of course Zaphod :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    They have moved the subtitles & commenrty on/off to the help. The Sky box is very very good user friendly for what Sky want you to be able to do, and usless for anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Zaphod wrote:
    Most (all?) receivers have a button on the remote which allows you to easily switch between the various language streams which are transmitted.

    when the language button does nothing because the braodcaster doesn't provide the choice, you need to change the APID.

    maybe Watty can explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    From my own experience, I don't think I've encountered any channels, including Premiere, where the APIDs had to be changed manually.

    Although I've noticed in one or two recent digital receivers the ability to edit the PIDs manually has been removed. Not good if you're trying to lock SCPC channels with low SRs or incomplete PATs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Spliffy


    i heard that al jazeera will be showing a lot of premiership games this coming season any truth in this ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭fish fingers


    i have technomate 1500 ci+ box, 80 cm dish. Im in Galway. im lookin to replace my art sub. with Digitalalb sub for new season. Do i just purchase card or do i need cam as well?? Alsat seem fairly reliable i reckon.


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