The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [ NO SPOILERS PLEASE ]

Overheal · 13-02-2012 3:23pm

paddy kerins wrote: »

Hasn't been much news about this lately, bar confirmation of Liam Neesons return

And see, that suit is bitchin. Way more agile looking. Yes I'm aware usually batman has been portrayed as a big hulking figure (typical of the American style of comics) but I really prefer the direction it's gone in, it just seems more sensible to me for a guy who gets into hands on fights and is rappelling around rooftops. And yes he just looked 'roided up and unrealistic. Like they pointed out rather pointedly at the start of TDK the BB suit lent itself to being fairly rigid and unworkable. The suit just looks more cemented in reality: replace the bat trimmings with black ops equipment and you're looking at body armor you'd expect soldiers to be wearing in 10 years time on a daily basis.

As far as the cartoons and comics went, batman beyond took that a step further (making him look almost feral at times) and the newest cartoon by the looks of this, takes a more balanced approach.

senordingdong · 13-02-2012 7:39pm

I just think they look to chunky and heavy.

WoollyRedHat · 13-02-2012 8:26pm

Oldman cries because of Caine

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/gary-oldman-talks-emotional-the-dark-knight-rises/259819

pixelburp · 13-02-2012 8:45pm

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Oldman cries because of Caine

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/gary-oldman-talks-emotional-the-dark-knight-rises/259819

Going to go ahead and presume this scene Oldman speaks of involves the snippet from the trailer where we see/hear Alfred talking of how he'd failed Bruce's parents. That seemed quite a tearful emotional scene right there...

ricero · 14-02-2012 12:45am

i would not be surprised if Alfred was to fluff it in the new film, would add some emotional impact to bruce wayne if he dies at the hands of bane

constantg · 14-02-2012 3:46pm

ricero wrote: »

i would not be surprised if Alfred was to fluff it in the new film, would add some emotional impact to bruce wayne if he dies at the hands of bane

Would that be canon? I mean what happens to alfred in the comiccs?

Mr Freeze · 14-02-2012 4:02pm

constantg wrote: »

Would that be canon? I mean what happens to alfred in the comiccs?

He survived Bruce Wayne, and went on to lead/assemble a team of super heroes call The Outsiders.

Oh and how could I forget, he also help Dick Grayson when he became batman.

So Killing Alfred would not be canon, but who cares, flip all is canon in the films, they can do what they want.

Sad Professor · 14-02-2012 4:10pm

I don't think Alfred will die. That would just feel like a repeat of TDK with Bruce losing yet another loved one. I think it's more likely that Batman/Bruce himself will die, leaving Alfred behind to grieve him. Nolan is wrapping up the Batman mythos in this film, and given that he has tried to depict Batman as an existential hero, it would make sense for the final film to end with his death.

Mr Freeze · 14-02-2012 4:25pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I think it's more likely that Batman/Bruce himself will die

I thought that was gonna happen in TDK when Batman and Harvey fell, and when it showed them lying there, for a second, I thought they are both dead. I thought that would have been a great end, and leave it at 2 films, Warner wouldn't like that though.

allanb49 · 14-02-2012 4:27pm

The studio wouldn't let batman die,

They want the happy ending of the hero saving the day, redeeming himself and riding off into the sunset knowing he's made a difference,

I would love it to happen but it would be too much a bold move for them to conceivably pull off.

It will go

1) Bane breaks the Bat
2) Montage inter cut with Bane taking control of Gotham/Batman coming back
3) Batman defeating Bane/League of Shadows closing the chapter and him going off with Selena Kyle

All movies follow the same formula.

Sad Professor · 14-02-2012 4:47pm

Nolan's last two films made almost 2 billion dollars worldwide. He pretty much has a blank cheque from Warner Bros, who announced their intention to reboot the franchise before TDKR even started shooting. They wouldn't have done this if they thought there was any hope of getting Nolan and Bale to return for another one. Make no mistake about it, if Nolan wants to kill Batman, the studio will let him.

And the hero can save the day, redeem himself and still die. For an example from Nolan's own filmography, see Insomnia.

Mr Freeze · 14-02-2012 4:50pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

And the hero can save the day, redeem himself and still die. For an example from Nolan's own filmography, see Insomnia.

/Strikes Insomnia off my To Watch Backlog :P

duiggers · 14-02-2012 5:04pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Nolan's last two films made almost 2 billion dollars worldwide. He pretty much has a blank cheque from Warner Bros, who announced their intention to reboot the franchise before TDKR even started shooting. They wouldn't have done this if they thought there was any hope of getting Nolan and Bale to return for another one. Make no mistake about it, if Nolan wants to kill Batman, the studio will let him.

And the hero can save the day, redeem himself and still die. For an example from Nolan's own filmography, see Insomnia.

Thats right, Nolan has as much control as is possible for a director to have and it would work out well for the studio because killing Bale off as Batman would mean a fresh start for the next franchise

Paleface · 19-02-2012 9:37pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM

corcaigh07 · 19-02-2012 11:12pm

Paleface wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM

hey, ive actually come him at yonge/dundas. To make money, i saw him standing as a human statue just outside Eaton Centre, costume is pretty good

dublinman1990 · 19-02-2012 11:23pm

Paleface wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM

Well, that was intreresting. How did he actually do the accents so well to frighten off certain people as well as feeling sorry for the little girl near the end.

seraphimvc · 20-02-2012 2:00am

Paleface wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM

rofl. can you open this for me XD

by the way, any other new pictures/leaks?

Boo Radley · 22-02-2012 7:21pm

Fans demand Joker cameo

allanb49 · 23-02-2012 8:20am

Didn't even click it's from the onion.

Mickeroo · 23-02-2012 11:44am

allanb49 wrote: »

Didn't even click it's from the onion.

its funny though....

al28283 · 23-02-2012 11:45am

Mickeroo wrote: »

its funny though....

nope, it's from the onion

Mickeroo · 23-02-2012 2:42pm

al28283 wrote: »

nope, it's from the onion

paddy kerins · 21-03-2012 12:03am

Apparently the first cut is around 4 hours long http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=56703

Duggy747 · 21-03-2012 12:51am

paddy kerins wrote: »

Apparently the first cut is around 4 hours long http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=56703

It'll be dwindled down to 2 and half hours like the other 2 films. Majority of that stuff that hits the cutting room floor will be fluff, never to see the light of day since Nolan's movies never have any deleted scenes.

I think The Punisher with Tom Jane had a original cut of over 5 hours. :pac:

Handsome Bob · 21-03-2012 7:48am

TBH, with the amount of stuff this film is covering, it should be at least 3 hours long.

Mickeroo · 21-03-2012 11:58am

If this is anywhere near the quality of TDK then I'll happily sit through 8 hours much less 4!

stevenmu · 21-03-2012 12:14pm

+1, despite how long it was TDK flew by, and at the end I was a little sad that it was over.

FlashD · 21-03-2012 12:29pm

Maybe there is someone thinking right now.....

4 hours = 2 films = 2 paydays. :pac:

syklops · 21-03-2012 1:04pm

FlashD wrote: »

Maybe there is someone thinking right now.....

4 hours = 2 films = 2 paydays. :pac:

I hope not. They did that with Harry Potter and it ruined the film.

If this is anywhere near the quality of TDK then I'll happily sit through 8 hours much less 4!

Me too!

Sad Professor · 21-03-2012 1:16pm

It depends how rough this "rough cut" is, but given how tightly edited Nolan's other films are, 4 hours sounds about right to me. I'd say TDK was easily the same length in rough cut form. Most of what ends up on Nolan's cutting room floor is dead air between dialogue and characters entering and leaving a room. He rarely seems to cut whole scenes.

paddy kerins · 21-03-2012 2:39pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

It depends how rough this "rough cut" is, but given how tightly edited Nolan's other films are, 4 hours sounds about right to me. I'd say TDK was easily the same length in rough cut form. Most of what ends up on Nolan's cutting room floor is dead air between dialogue and characters entering and leaving a room. He rarely seems to cut whole scenes.

Actually Nolan only cut about 15 - 20 minutes of footage from TDK. Or at least a very small amount. It's unlikely to happen with this though. Although I wouldn't mind sitting in the cinema for 4 hours considering it's the end of a cultural phenomenon

Corholio · 21-03-2012 4:40pm

Seems they've given away a little spoiler on one of the new prints.

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/n/new-plot-synopsis-for-the-dark-knight-rises-98517-01-470-75.jpg

Gordon poster

MJ23 · 21-03-2012 5:27pm

calm down Doctor, now's not the time for fear, that comes later.

Mickeroo · 21-03-2012 6:04pm

Corholio wrote: »

Seems they've given away a little spoiler on one of the new prints.

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/n/new-plot-synopsis-for-the-dark-knight-rises-98517-01-470-75.jpg
Gordon poster

Those posters have a very soviet propoganda feel to them.

ricero · 21-03-2012 7:01pm

nice little spoiler put in to the poster i like it. i just cant wait to see this film would you say many cinemas will be doing midnight screenings ? cant wait to hear the music zimmer creates aswell

Oafley Jones · 21-03-2012 7:05pm

paddy kerins wrote: »

Actually Nolan only cut about 15 - 20 minutes of footage from TDK. Or at least a very small amount. It's unlikely to happen with this though. Although I wouldn't mind sitting in the cinema for 4 hours considering it's the end of a cultural phenomenon

There's absolutely no need for TDKR to be anywhere near a four hour movie. I'd be hugely surprised if it's over three hours, unless Nolan has completely lost the run of himself (doubtful) and is producing the cinematic equivalent of a double album.

Sad Professor · 21-03-2012 10:58pm

MTV have withdrawn their suggestion that the rough cut is four hours long. It was a joke apparently.

al28283 · 21-03-2012 11:01pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

MTV have withdrawn their suggestion that the rough cut is four hours long. It was a joke apparently.

I don't get it

Sad Professor · 21-03-2012 11:03pm

I don't think anyone did.

Zero-Cool · 22-03-2012 1:01pm

Corholio wrote: »

Seems they've given away a little spoiler on one of the new prints.

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/n/new-plot-synopsis-for-the-dark-knight-rises-98517-01-470-75.jpg
Gordon poster

I like that line "I have your back". gonna be an epic scene.

paddy kerins · 22-03-2012 2:34pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

I like that line "I have your back". gonna be an epic scene.

Maybe they team up :eek:

:P

Boo Radley · 25-03-2012 10:30pm

Oh Gary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17507640

Sad Professor · 01-04-2012 8:11pm

Despite Nolan bashing 3D on numerous occasions, Warners has announced they will be post-converting the film to 3D.

http://batman-news.com/2012/04/01/the-dark-knight-rises-to-be-post-converted-to-3d/

pixelburp · 01-04-2012 8:17pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Despite Nolan bashing 3D on numerous occasions, Warners has announced they will be post-converting the film to 3D.

http://batman-news.com/2012/04/01/the-dark-knight-rises-to-be-post-converted-to-3d/

April Fool's right? I mean parts of the US are only starting April 1st given the time difference, so I'm hoping that it's just a trick published to mark the occasion stateside.

If not, that sucks. DKR will make money regardless of what format it's released in, but studios will doubtless use its likely success as proof the market's still there for 3D...

Edit: why yes, when you read the article it is quite obvious

Sad Professor · 01-04-2012 8:59pm

Aw, crap! I think you're right.

Handsome Bob · 01-04-2012 9:05pm

Lirpa Sloof

Hmmm.

Sad Professor · 01-04-2012 9:09pm

lol. I can't believe I fell for that.

pixelburp · 01-04-2012 9:19pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

lol. I can't believe I fell for that.

Happens to the best of us

dublinman1990 · 01-04-2012 11:45pm

Here is one video that is not an april fool.

No surprise that this is made out of Lego.

syklops · 07-04-2012 2:34pm

That was awesome. I'm so excited now!

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