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[2011-2012] What really happened to Madeleine McCann?

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  • #252
    deelite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    tuom wrote: »
    There is something about this case that has from the very start given me a gut feeling , I am not a nutcase or a Mc Cann hater but I cannot pinpoint what is so wrong in this case.
    Ok they left the kids alone that is a big no no but nothing seems to fit ! how has this become so big , why is it that it is being investigated the way the McCanns want it ? I am probably giving it too much time but I would be interested in getting some more up to date opinions on this .... TY

    I distinctly remember watching GMTV and a Scottish lady (Gerrys sister) being on the phone talking about her niece who was missing - that was the first time I heard of the case. I never liked the way Gerry handled himself and Kate has my full sympathy I get this Gut feeling that Kate is under Gerry's control. I think he pulls all the strings. I just wonder is there any CCTV footage at all from their holiday.


  • #253
    tuom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭tuom


    deelite wrote: »
    I distinctly remember watching GMTV and a Scottish lady (Gerrys sister) being on the phone talking about her niece who was missing - that was the first time I heard of the case. I never liked the way Gerry handled himself and Kate has my full sympathy I get this Gut feeling that Kate is under Gerry's control. I think he pulls all the strings. I just wonder is there any CCTV footage at all from their holiday.

    There is some footage of the MC and their friends at the Tapas bar and a lot of the information are online see MCCann Case Files , it is a lot of reading but very intersting also a lot of stuff on utube,


  • #254
    [Jackass]
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    For my money, this is a pretty open and shut case.

    A Paedophile goes to a family resort to look at kids on the beach and basically be sub-human scum, and either did or did not go with the intention of abducting a child, I think it was a tourist, and I think he (I think it was a man) saw an oppertunity and acted upon it. I don't know if it was pre-planned or not, but I think the child was taken from the home when it became clear that it had got to a certain stage, and I think the person was staying local, probably in the same village / area, and I reckon she was killed and disposed of within 24 hours of her going missing, and she's burried in the vast surrounding countryside somewhere and will be found some time in the next 20 years I reckon, probably by coincidence.

    Terribly sad, but I think it all happened and ended over the space of a few hours.


  • #255
    [Jackass]
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    Also, I wouldn't rule out the parents being the killers as a completely seperate theroy to the above, but I think it is far far less likely, and there's no motive and it would have been very difficult to make her disappear and stay hidden, i.e. to hide a body so well in such a short space of time and not leave any clues linking you to it and not make any mistakes trying to cover it it. It's possible, but I think it's far more likely that it was a paedo.


  • #256
    Mistyeyes321
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭Mistyeyes321


    Just seen ths link, Can anyone here understand what the connection is ?!
    http://www.anorak.co.uk/320148/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-the-etan-patz-connection.html/


  • #257
    Motorist
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    I see there was a photo fit on the news of what this poor child would look like now.

    Sadly, this is probably more accurate.


  • #258
    goat2
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    i am delighted for the family and just hope that who ever has her, will give her back, please god this will happen asap


  • #259
    Motorist
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    goat2 wrote: »
    i am delighted for the family and just hope that who ever has her, will give her back, please god this will happen asap

    You do realise that she is almost certainly dead.


  • #260
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    I think that its very likely that the parents did it.
    I read a theory a while back complete with pictures about a gypsy couple. The photos showed them performing sexual acts on a sofa when a child was in the room. The child was white and looked very similar to Madeline. There was more to the story but can't remember it now.


  • #261
    goat2
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    Motorist wrote: »
    You do realise that she is almost certainly dead.
    i dont think she is dead, i do think that some couple who could not have a child of their own had her taken for them, also at her age it would be easy to brainwash and forget what happened in time.


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  • #262
    Tom Cruise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭Tom Cruise


    She would be old enough to ask for her parents back though.
    And how will she go to a school.You can get a baby from certain places in the world for very little money.Why rob 1 and face jail if caught.I think we all know what happened her.
    I would never leave kids in a apartment on holidays while i get drunk.


  • #263
    deelite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    Tom Cruise wrote: »
    She would be old enough to ask for her parents back though.
    And how will she go to a school.You can get a baby from certain places in the world for very little money.Why rob 1 and face jail if caught.I think we all know what happened her.
    I would never leave kids in a apartment on holidays while i get drunk.

    That's the other thing I find strange about this case if it was a couple who wanted a child why did they not take one of the twins or both of them. On the other hand somebody could have seen a beautiful little girl on holidays with her parents, who seemed to spend more time in the creche or on her own in the apartment rather than with her mum and dad. Maybe they thought they were going to give her a more loving environment in their eyes.

    And finally do you know what really intrigues me why has no psychics solved the case the only mention I ever heard was years ago when Gerry Ryan had Derek Anacord?? on his show and when Gerry asked him about the case all he said was " there was 2 nasty people involved"


  • #264
    goat2
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    deelite wrote: »
    That's the other thing I find strange about this case if it was a couple who wanted a child why did they not take one of the twins or both of them. On the other hand somebody could have seen a beautiful little girl on holidays with her parents, who seemed to spend more time in the creche or on her own in the apartment rather than with her mum and dad. Maybe they thought they were going to give her a more loving environment in their eyes.

    And finally do you know what really intrigues me why has no psychics solved the case the only mention I ever heard was years ago when Gerry Ryan had Derek Anacord?? on his show and when Gerry asked him about the case all he said was " there was 2 nasty people involved"
    i would say there are far more accurate physics out there, i have wondered also why they did not go to a proven physic, there is a programme on sky some nights it is called physic detective, they help police to piece together evidence in cases, and the police are surprsed by how accurate the physcics are, down to the point of pinpointing on maps the whereabouts of people dead and alive, it would be brilliant if it were tried, nothing to lose trying anyway


  • #265
    LordSutch
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    I just keep coming back to the restaurant scenario. Across the holiday complex on the far side of the swimming pool, two babies & a toddler on their own in a room with an unlocked window out of view (I think)? Phew, thinking baout it makes me ask why oh why would you leave the young children in the room on their own??? So maybe everybody did that in that complex, maybe it was the norm? (I don't know) but as a father of little ones I don't think I would leave them alone in a room while on Holiday, but maybe if the room as within sight, and the safety record was 100% then we might . . . Actually No, I still can't imaging leaving them alone.

    Its a real mystery if ever there was, that's for sure.


  • #266
    goat2
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    like you, i would never have left my children unattended for even five minuits in my home, there is not a hope i would leave them unsupervised (sleeping or not) in another country while i would step out even for a moment, but that does not take from the fact, that it was wrong for someone to take anothers child


  • #267
    Ashbourne hoop
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    I don't think the parents were involved in the disappearance. I don't see how they could have got away with it to be honest. My own opinion is that the child is dead, she has to be the most recognised child in the world at this stage so surely someone would have come forward at this stage. Also the parents were wrong to leave the kids by themselves and they are paying the worst price possible for that mistake.


  • #268
    OldNotWIse
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    I'm going to be very anti-boards now and post this without reading other posts first.

    I predict...a massive "they shouldn't have left her alone" rant.....


  • #269
    OldNotWIse
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    Mistyeyes321 wrote: »
    What stand's out to me is if someone took Maddie because they wanted a child so badly to love & nurture. Then why a nearly four year old child?!
    It would make far more sense if the Mccann's we're being watched for this reason to take the twin's who would likely forget about their own parent's very quickly! & they would also be far easier to teach a new Language etc etc etc!
    Other's think the Mccann's was being watched by a paedophile ring, Again why not take all three kids?! If they was prepared to take the risk then why not?. It's like being robbed & just taking the Copper's & leaving the silver & gold! It doesn't even bare thinking about really turn's my stomach the thought of people like these having this Child! I don't think we can ignore it though!
    Another way this child could have disappeared was by the Parent's being involed...I just can't believe it tbh maybe that's because as a Mother I just couldn't carry on without one of my babies! I know I couldn't just dump their little body as if they we're a piece of rubbish!
    The only other way would be if one of the Friend's we're involved & the Mccann's genuinly aren't involved & do believe Maddie was abducted!
    +1


  • #270
    OldNotWIse
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    I often wondered if she left the room herself looking for her parents and ended up falling into the sea or a drain or something?


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  • #271
    maximoose
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    Ashbourne hoop wrote: »
    Also the parents were wrong to leave the kids by themselves and they are paying the worst price possible for that mistake.

    Are they really though? They looked pretty cosy in their box at Wembley the other day watching the football when if they weren't upper class doctors they'd probably (and rightly so) be in jail for negliglence.

    Terrible thing to happen to the child, if it was an abduction (which the joint investigation by the portuguese and british police found zero evidence for) she's more than likely dead as she's far too high profile to be kept alive. There's always struck me as being much more to the case though.


  • #272
    Ashbourne hoop
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    maximoose wrote: »
    Are they really though? They looked pretty cosy in their box at Wembley the other day watching the football when if they weren't upper class doctors they'd probably (and rightly so) be in jail for negliglence.

    Terrible thing to happen to the child, if it was an abduction (which the joint investigation by the portuguese and british police found zero evidence for) she's more than likely dead as she's far too high profile to be kept alive. There's always struck me as being much more to the case though.

    All the football tickets in world wouldn't console anyone who has lost a child. Just because the police haven't found evidence (as yet) for an abduction doesn't mean it didn't happen.


  • #273
    Tomk1
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    I saw the Mc's on ITV this morning while changing channels. Their words were as you would expect, but the body language was just odd. Like if they had something to do with it, I can't understand why go on TV again? but as I said the body language just didn't seem right, cardboard like.

    I am split down the middle, but still leaning to one/both of the parents knowing the truth.

    The only other angle is that million € house which was rented to a reclusive group, in which photos of children were found on the walls.


  • #274
    maximoose
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    I'm just going to throw this in here too:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72188785&postcount=1124

    Best post I've seen on the subject highlighting the serious inconsistencies in the McCann/Tapas 7 stories, and evidence against the abductor theory.


  • #275
    Dontfadeaway
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    I often wondered if she left the room herself looking for her parents and ended up falling into the sea or a drain or something?

    I don't think she would've been able to open the door, they said the doors were closed and the gate outside too. Also they said the shutters and window was open, there was no way she would've been able to do that.

    I don't like that Gerry compared where they were eating out to being the same as being in your back garden. I've seen the pictures and it looks far enough and from the pictures it doesn't look like they would have a clear view at night, and if they had to go back and listen at the windows to check if any of them was crying then it's too far.

    When Kate noticed she was gone, instead of shouting from the balcony, she ran back to the table of friends to tell them, leaving the twins there. Was she too far away to shout?

    If someone did take her, then they most likely came in the patio door, because i read the front door was locked and only opens with a key, so unless the person had a spare, then they couldn't have left that way.

    I've seen pictures of the window and it's pretty low down and wide enough to climb in and out of, so it is possible they came in or left that way. It depends how much the shutters went up though.

    Jane Tanner said she saw a man with a child walk across the road while she was on her way to check the kids. She would've walked right past the open window on her way to check the kids, how she did not see it open?

    You do have to ask why Madeleine, why not one of the twins? or one of the the kids of the other 7 adults.

    If she had an accident and the parents decided to hide the body, if so where? They had very little time to come up with a plan and get their story straight, and then put on an act like nothing happened. It's sad to think the parents could do such a thing, but i wouldn't rule it out. Alot of things don't add up, like the dogs. If the dogs found nothing in any of the other apartments, then i find it very odd that the one place they do, is in their place.


  • #276
    goat2
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    i am convinced she will be found alive, and also that she will have been well cared for, i would love to see a good psychic brought in on this case and give some positive clues,
    i do hope that she is found shortly, or that who ever has her will just drop her off at a police station or hospital,


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  • #277
    gbee
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    goat2 wrote: »
    i am convinced she will be found alive, and also that she will have been well cared for, i would love to see a good psychic brought in on this case and give some positive clues,
    i do hope that she is found shortly, or that who ever has her will just drop her off at a police station or hospital,

    Precedents have already been set, the vast majority are never found and deathbed confessions often reveal how early on the victim's demise came.

    A small percentage survive into adulthood where they have made stronger bonds with their abductor than their previous family and so seek no reunion.

    A very small percentage survive into adulthood and escape or are discovered as adults.

    Mediums have led a merry dance in this case already, tbh, you'd face more questions yourself as to your own involvement, if you accurately visioned the case.


  • #278
    maximoose
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    goat2 wrote: »
    i am convinced she will be found alive, and also that she will have been well cared for, i would love to see a good psychic brought in on this case and give some positive clues,
    i do hope that she is found shortly, or that who ever has her will just drop her off at a police station or hospital,

    I really hope you are taking the piss.


  • #279
    RoboClam
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    "Good" psychics like Sylvia Browne? She performed wonders in that Shawn Hornbeck case after all.


  • #280
    Dontfadeaway
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    goat2 wrote: »
    i am convinced she will be found alive, and also that she will have been well cared for, i would love to see a good psychic brought in on this case and give some positive clues,
    i do hope that she is found shortly, or that who ever has her will just drop her off at a police station or hospital,

    That ain't going to happen now, it's been too long. If someone did take her then i don't think she is dead either, but unless someone spots her, i don't think she will be found.


  • #281
    maebee
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    http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2012/05/who-killed-madeleine-mccann.html


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  • #282
    goat2
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    im surprised that if this is the truth, that they turned down a polygraph test to prove they are innicent,
    then again we are reading on that link the thoughts of someone who know about as much as us, it is all what we read,

    i remember some time back a little girl who had been kidnapped she had been held in a back garden and had two children with her capotrs,
    yet her stepdad had been blamed for her disappearance and was under some suspicion until she was found alive and well in another state.

    so the experts got it wrong then, and of course they can get it wrong again, and in this case it is my openion that they are wrong,
    kate and gerry mccanne would not be fighting to have this case opened and brought to the forefront if they were guilty of her disappearance, they would not be drawing attention to themselves and let things lie,
    so i do think they are innocent


  • #283
    gbee
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    goat2 wrote: »
    and brought to the forefront if they were guilty of her disappearance,

    They are highly intelligent, educated and skilful people.


  • #284
    Dontfadeaway
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    Did anyone watch the video of Eddie (the dog) finding cuddle cat (madeleine's toy) in the apartment the Mccanns stayed at after Madeleine went missing? In the video he finds the toy and moves it, he doesn't bark. Later the toy is placed in a cupboard, then the dog barks.

    Isn't that abit weird, also when he barks at the cupboard, instead of them opening the cupboard to show it is the toy, they move on to next room and then later came back to show it was the toy. I think the police found this odd aswell as i don't believe they tested the toy for DNA at the time.

    I agree with what Gbee said above, but even so, it would be very hard not to slip up or crack under pressure.


  • #285
    Tigger
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    Tom Cruise wrote: »
    I would never leave kids in a apartment on holidays while i get drunk.

    laid not drunk

    the whole x checked on y is a cover for the fact they were playing swinger games and the kid died cos everybody was busy

    then she got put in a fridge and the rest is history


  • #286
    Sappa
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    Those sniffer dogs got a funny whiff from the mccanns car boot and went beserk,why won't they take a polygraph.
    I followed this case 5 yrs ago and I still firmly believe the parents know what happened to her.


  • #287
    OldNotWIse
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    goat2 wrote: »
    like you, i would never have left my children unattended for even five minuits in my home, there is not a hope i would leave them unsupervised (sleeping or not) in another country while i would step out even for a moment, but that does not take from the fact, that it was wrong for someone to take anothers child

    Good point. I think we all know that it was wrong to leave the children, but it was also wrong to abduct one of them (cue an hysterical onslaught of "if they didn't leave them, she would still be here) - true...but if someone hadn't abducted her she would er...also still be here. The way some people go on, you'd swear that the kidnapper was practically justified in taking her. Just because she was left alone, does not absolve the abductor of his or her crime.


  • #288
    maebee
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Good point. I think we all know that it was wrong to leave the children, but it was also wrong to abduct one of them (cue an hysterical onslaught of "if they didn't leave them, she would still be here) - true...but if someone hadn't abducted her she would er...also still be here. The way some people go on, you'd swear that the kidnapper was practically justified in taking her. Just because she was left alone, does not absolve the abductor of his or her crime.

    The thing is, there is no evidence whatsoever of an abductor or kidnapper. This was the opinion of the Portuguese and British police.


  • #289
    OldNotWIse
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    maebee wrote: »
    The thing is, there is no evidence whatsoever of an abductor or kidnapper. This was the opinion of the Portuguese and British police.
    Can evidence (or lack thereof) really be relied upon when the crime scene was so badly preserved?

    We are all entitled to our opinions and theories of course. I have never believed the conspiracy theories that her parents were involved. I think she was either snatched by a sick predator and was dead within 24 hours of the abduction, or she wandered out looking for parents and drowned.


  • #290
    Tomk1
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    Sappa wrote: »
    Those sniffer dogs got a funny whiff from the mccanns car boot and went beserk,why won't they take a polygraph.
    I followed this case 5 yrs ago and I still firmly believe the parents know what happened to her.
    Just read 'The Truth of the Lie' this is an absolute must read.

    Wasn't just a funny whiff, one dog Eddie specifically for detecting human cadaver odour detected it inside the car boot, the other dog Keela trained to detect Human blood, indicated blood on the floor of the boot and on the key, blood samples were taken. This basically says there was a dead Human body was in the boot of the car, this car was rented by the Mc's from the 27th of May, 3 weeks after Maddie 'disapeared' ?

    A substantial amount of hair found in the boot at the time couldn't be tested, but today the Lab-technology can, if tested and found to be Maddies, the mystery ends.

    The bedroom abduction? window was cleaned by staff on the 2nd of May, and the only prints & palmprint found on the window belong to Kate, no sign of gloves used, even if the child was abducted then the abductor would have left the same way they accessed the Apt. Only one person opened that window and it wasn't Jane's man/woman George-Harrison/unibomber phantom.

    Even apart from the car, there's a funny whiff from behind the coach, the wardrobe in the parents room, some of Kate's clothes and poor Cuddle-cat even after being washed.


  • #291
    OldNotWIse
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    Tomk1 wrote: »
    Just read 'The Truth of the Lie' this is an absolute must read.

    Wasn't just a funny whiff, one dog Eddie specifically for detecting human cadaver odour detected it inside the car boot, the other dog Keela trained to detect Human blood, indicated blood on the floor of the boot and on the key, blood samples were taken. This basically says there was a dead Human body was in the boot of the car, this car was rented by the Mc's from the 27th of May, 3 weeks after Maddie 'disapeared' ?

    A substantial amount of hair found in the boot at the time couldn't be tested, but today the Lab-technology can, if tested and found to be Maddies, the mystery ends.

    The bedroom abduction? window was cleaned by staff on the 2nd of May, and the only prints & palmprint found on the window belong to Kate, no sign of gloves used, even if the child was abducted then the abductor would have left the same way they accessed the Apt. Only one person opened that window and it wasn't Jane's man/woman George-Harrison/unibomber phantom.

    Even apart from the car, there's a funny whiff from behind the coach, the wardrobe in the parents room, some of Kate's clothes and poor Cuddle-cat even after being washed.
    So where did they hide the body for 3 weeks?


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  • #292
    Dontfadeaway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    Tomk1 wrote: »
    Just read 'The Truth of the Lie' this is an absolute must read.

    Wasn't just a funny whiff, one dog Eddie specifically for detecting human cadaver odour detected it inside the car boot, the other dog Keela trained to detect Human blood, indicated blood on the floor of the boot and on the key, blood samples were taken. This basically says there was a dead Human body was in the boot of the car, this car was rented by the Mc's from the 27th of May, 3 weeks after Maddie 'disapeared' ?

    A substantial amount of hair found in the boot at the time couldn't be tested, but today the Lab-technology can, if tested and found to be Maddies, the mystery ends.

    The bedroom abduction? window was cleaned by staff on the 2nd of May, and the only prints & palmprint found on the window belong to Kate, no sign of gloves used, even if the child was abducted then the abductor would have left the same way they accessed the Apt. Only one person opened that window and it wasn't Jane's man/woman George-Harrison/unibomber phantom.

    Even apart from the car, there's a funny whiff from behind the coach, the wardrobe in the parents room, some of Kate's clothes and poor Cuddle-cat even after being washed.

    Only Kate's fingerprints were found on the inside, what about the outside? There was partial/unidentified prints on the shutters and patio doors.

    I don't think an abducter would leave the same way if he came in the patio doors. I think you can open the main door from the inside.


  • #293
    goat2
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    who wrote that book, ( the truth of the lie)
    i will never beleive that the parents had anything to do with their daughters disappearance,
    i beleive they could not keep up pretence for a year, never mind five years since she went missing


  • #294
    Mr. Presentable
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    goat2 wrote: »
    who wrote that book, ( the truth of the lie)
    i will never beleive that the parents had anything to do with their daughters disappearance,
    i beleive they could not keep up pretence for a year, never mind five years since she went missing

    Ah, that's that then.


  • #295
    foxshooter243
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    So where did they hide the body for 3 weeks?

    Im not going to get heavily involved in this thread, but will say this, ive studied everything to do with this case, the portugese police know that the body was hidden in the garden of a disused house, the Irish family that spotted gerry mc cann carrying the dead child gave him away, he then put the body into the garden of the disused house and hid it in the undergrowth..later on in the early hours of the following morning , gerry and kate moved the body and were spotted by a passing motorist carrying the child , the body was hidden probably on a boat for a few weeks before being moved in the rental car..the dogs evidence was good!


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    goat2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    foxshooter243 wrote: »
    Im not going to get heavily involved in this thread, but will say this, ive studied everything to do with this case, the portugese police know that the body was hidden in the garden of a disused house, the Irish family that spotted gerry mc cann carrying the dead child gave him away, he then put the body into the garden of the disused house and hid it in the undergrowth..later on in the early hours of the following morning , gerry and kate moved the body and were spotted by a passing motorist carrying the child , the body was hidden probably on a boat for a few weeks before being moved in the rental car..the dogs evidence was good!
    have they got dna evidence to prove that the mccannes were in that place you say the child was lain disused house,
    and i am sure the smell of rotting flesh would have brought attention to the boat, as you say it was there for a few weeks and think about, scorching weather body in boad for a few weeks, and if they did go back for said body which in that heat was cooked, where did they put their child,

    it does not add up


  • #297
    foxshooter243
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭foxshooter243


    goat2 wrote: »
    have they got dna evidence to prove that the mccannes were in that place you say the child was lain disused house,
    and i am sure the smell of rotting flesh would have brought attention to the boat, as you say it was there for a few weeks and think about, scorching weather body in boad for a few weeks, and if they did go back for said body which in that heat was cooked, where did they put their child,

    it does not add up

    As said im not getting involved in this thread, I spent several months investigating this case, the evidence is out there go look it up for yourself.


  • #298
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    foxshooter243 wrote: »
    As said im not getting involved in this thread, I spent several months investigating this case, the evidence is out there go look it up for yourself.

    In what capacity were you investigating this case?


  • #299
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    My ex's sister was on holiday in Turkey and went missing. She was abducted and held in a house in the middle of nowhere being pimped out and raped daily. this went on for three months. She'd still be there only someone reported it. Now she was an adult. This kid wandered out of the apartment and was abducted. That's all there is to it in my view. There's no body and one definitely would have been found by now had she been killed. making a child disappear completely is a lot easier than a body, which will eventually be found.


  • #300
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    goat2 wrote: »
    have they got dna evidence to prove that the mccannes were in that place you say the child was lain disused house,
    and i am sure the smell of rotting flesh would have brought attention to the boat, as you say it was there for a few weeks and think about, scorching weather body in boad for a few weeks, and if they did go back for said body which in that heat was cooked, where did they put their child,

    it does not add up
    Could have been put into a cooler of some sort. I'm guessing she was an average sized kid. Wouldnt be too hard to put the body in a cooler. It would delay the decay a good bit too. Body could have been dumped in the ocean then for all we know. Carried off by the tide or eaten by whatever fish inhabit the area it ended up in. Bodies (or even bones) sometimes dont turn up for 20 or 30 years. It's foolish to think that because a body hasent turned up within 5, she must be still alive.


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  • #301
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    foxshooter243 wrote: »
    Im not going to get heavily involved in this thread, but will say this, ive studied everything to do with this case, the portugese police know that the body was hidden in the garden of a disused house, the Irish family that spotted gerry mc cann carrying the dead child gave him away, he then put the body into the garden of the disused house and hid it in the undergrowth..later on in the early hours of the following morning , gerry and kate moved the body and were spotted by a passing motorist carrying the child , the body was hidden probably on a boat for a few weeks before being moved in the rental car..the dogs evidence was good!

    Oh...ok then...gawd what paper do you read? I never get that much information from mine ;)


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