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The John Murray Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Each to their own but I find Ivan Yates straight talking, politically incorrect persona contrived. I used to listen but he just irritates me now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Cole wrote: »
    Each to their own but I find Ivan Yates straight talking, politically incorrect persona contrived. I used to listen but he just irritates me now.


    Yes,I could see you have something there.

    Small doses, I would suggest, like most NT personae.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Anyone still listening to RTE1 between 09 and 10?

    Total rubbish in my opinion.

    Nope and I would've been one to be looking forward to seeing how he'd crack on in the slot. But I seldom tuned in after the 1st week. It's not that the programme annoys me, it doesn't. But it hasn't attracted me at all at all. I don't avoid the programme, I just don't bother.

    Not sure if it's the production, pitch or presentation of the show that's failing, probably an unhealthy mix of the three. Either way, the sum of its parts appears to limply fall between the two stools Engagement and Ennui.

    Pity really...fairly big hole between 9 and 10. The extra blob of news that Newstalk offer at that time is a good idea and works well but it's not my cuppa at that hour. Fact is I've become institutionalised over the years and need my lighter medication at that time. Nurse!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    humberklog wrote: »
    Nope and I would've been one to be looking forward to seeing how he'd crack on in the slot. But I seldom tuned in after the 1st week. It's not that the programme annoys me, it doesn't. But it hasn't attracted me at all at all. I don't avoid the programme, I just don't bother.

    Not sure if it's the production, pitch or presentation of the show that's failing, probably an unhealthy mix of the three. Either way, the sum of its parts appears to limply fall between the two stools Engagement and Ennui.

    Pity really...fairly big hole between 9 and 10. The extra blob of news that Newstalk offer at that time is a good idea and works well but it's not my cuppa at that hour. Fact is I've become institutionalised over the years and need my lighter medication at that time. Nurse!!

    That sums it up well, just doesn't seem to connect.

    Murray's delivery is very straining at a time when we need to relax.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    That sums it up well, just doesn't seem to connect.

    Murray's delivery is very straining at a time when we need to relax.

    His delivery gets more annoying with each week. What with being a north inner city Dub myself I'd have a fairly good ear for imposters and Murray puts on a lot of the "ol' shegotia". 'Tis a pity that one of the few flat accents on RTE feels the need to ham it down a touch and exaggerate it.

    You got it pretty spot on at the beginning of thread FB. Mystic Bantam;).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Desert Islands Discs this morning is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    That "interview" with Daisy Gogarty was cringeworthy.. similar to the "interview" he did with Obama for the promo... What is it about RTE, do people lose all sense of humour when they walk through the doors or something... John was good on the business show and he was good when he filled in for Rachel (sorry, I mean Marian) on The Marian Finucane Show earlier this year.. But he is trying to be funny all the time on this show. It seems like every question is asked in a jocose manner..

    Do it straight, cut out the humour, or gtfo John Murray..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Shane10


    i listen to it sometimes but i dont warm to the presenter. the "funny" few intro bits at the start of the show are not funny and should be cut like yesterday. i just dont warm to this guy. kathryn thomas was brilliant filling in for tubbs i thought before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Shane10 wrote: »
    i just dont warm to this guy. kathryn thomas was brilliant filling in for tubbs i thought before.

    +1 I dont like her on the telly, but she was waaaaay better than both Tubridy and John Murray when she was filled in.. she's seems to have a natural talent for it.. and she's a real person..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Was anyone else listening to that guitar intro that girl was playing, and expecting Hotel California???


    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    I dont think Murray will last long with this show, I'm reduced to tuning to Tubs who is a pain in the a*** on the radio.
    He is so full of himself its unreal. Oh I forgot the telephone no., its my first day pass the sick bag.

    Thank goodness PK is on after the 10 news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Indeed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I think it's significant that nobody has commented on The Show Murray Show thread since Dec 1st 2010, until yesterday... I just cant get in to his style, and both the ads and the theme music are constant irritants...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Its all a bit...meh, really. It flys just below the radar so that noone talks about it or has opinions on it.

    Its averagely grand like.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    telekon wrote: »
    Its all a bit...meh, really. It flys just below the radar so that noone talks about it or has opinions on it.

    Its averagely grand like.

    Be honest, it's a load of shyte.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Be honest, it's a load of shyte.

    Wouldnt go that far as I'm so non-plussed about it. I reserve the term shyte for Tubridy's show.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    It never even occurs to me to tune in. More the pity is that I never think to tune into G. Lee doing the Business show on Saturday.
    Congratulations RTE you created to black holes with just a spot of bad programming. They should be working on the Large Hadro Collider in Cern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    I don't dislike John Murray and listened in initially but have no inclination to listen now, even at the start just to hear what's coming up on the show.

    It's just.........there. It doesn't really register as something to listen to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Actually, when thinking about it, I would be listening to his show if the Newstalk Breakfast show hadn't been extended by an hour.

    His show seems to lie somewhere between current affairs and soft puffball pieces and that doesnt sit well with me.

    But lets get this straight, he is far superior to Tubridy or D'Arcy. Tubridy's an idiot and the Ray D'Arcy Show is a show for idiots.

    Will Ray go through with his threat to leave the country when Enda is Taoiseach in 7 weeks time? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    telekon wrote: »
    Actually, when thinking about it, I would be listening to his show if the Newstalk Breakfast show hadn't been extended by an hour.

    His show seems to lie somewhere between current affairs and soft puffball pieces and that doesnt sit well with me.

    But lets get this straight, he is far superior to Tubridy or D'Arcy. Tubridy's an idiot and the Ray D'Arcy Show is a show for idiots.

    Will Ray go through with his threat to leave the country when Enda is Taoiseach in 7 weeks time? :rolleyes:


    Couldnt agree with you more. I detest Darcy and his stupid opinions. Please go now Ray, you wont be missed and bring that Jennie with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    I heard his interview with Brendan Balfe this morning.

    Balfe admitted that he was devastated at having to retire at 65 and that he's very disappointed at RTE saying to him that there was no where for him in their schedule, to come back in as a contractor. He was with RTE from 18 years of age, contractor then employee in his latter years.

    He's obviously bitter about it....although he wouldn't use that word when pressed.....and who can blame him, when you look at some of the dreadful broadcasters that RTE radio have in their ranks.

    I'm surprised that no other station has offered him something, he's a real pro. Perhaps 4FM, although they think that Gareth O'Callagh'sham is worth employing. :rolleyes:

    It must add to his frustration when he sees some of the vegetables working on radio today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭telekon


    Cole wrote: »
    I heard his interview with Brendan Balfe this morning.

    For some reason I had John Murray on too this morning (wtf?! :confused:) and also heard this interview. It was excellent.

    I could listen to Brendan's velvet tones all day long...best voice on the radio bar none.:)


    Its disgusting how someone of his talent (Brendan made some truly excellent programmes utilising the RTE archives, apparently he knows them inside out) is forced to retire while the career of Ryan Tubridy, with his limited ability and appeal, continues to flourish for no good reason out in Montrose. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Cole wrote: »
    I heard his interview with Brendan Balfe this morning.

    Balfe admitted that he was devastated at having to retire at 65 and that he's very disappointed at RTE saying to him that there was no where for him in their schedule, to come back in as a contractor. He was with RTE from 18 years of age, contractor then employee in his latter years.

    It seems to me that Brendan Balfe has been a spare part for a long time in RTE. He only ever seemed to get rolled out on bank holidays or to fill in for presenters who were on holidays. If I was him, I'd have been pretty peed off with RTE for the past couple of decades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Bobba Fett


    The whole show is coming from New York for the week of St Patrick's Day. What a joke, in these tight times to be sending a team of people to America to present what is, in my opinion, a sub par show from some Irish bar in New York.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Jesus, no wonder rte is strapped for cash!

    I mean radio is not really the medium for broadcasting from a specific place just for the fun of it.

    After a recent business to nyc I saw how the old expenses can add up. Madness!


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭Derryleigh


    Chances are it will be sponsored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    I've just thought of what the John Murray Show reminds me of, it's like a cross between two 1970's TV shows; Dads Army (awful puns and military metaphors like "batten down the hatches") and It's a Knockout (physical challenges and forced giddiness).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    In a 25 million loss making organisation, how can RTE justify sending John Murray to New York..... No atmosphere, or possibly the sort of atmosphere you would expect in any city at 6am (starting time of the show).. And the only other person who seemed to be awake in NY was George Murphy...

    You really would wonder how they think it's a good idea to send a poor presenter to New York, when they wont even bring golden boy in to RTE studios from up the road.. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Did anybody hear the intro this morning.. "Howya Portugal and welcome to the club" followed by a really bad impression of Ollie Rehn and a load of cheesy soundbites from his PC (which he managed to fuk up).. He really is awful at this..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Never listen to him, NT Brekkie Extra all the way. Funny thing is I've stopped listening to the 7-9 am main section as its too light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Did anybody hear the intro this morning.. "Howya Portugal and welcome to the club" followed by a really bad impression of Ollie Rehn and a load of cheesy soundbites from his PC (which he managed to fuk up).. He really is awful at this..


    In the interview with the young wan, he floundered for about 20 minutes.


    Wreck of a programme.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Yeah I heard bits of it as well, Flut... but it was really the intro that got to me.. it sounded like something a secondary student would put together for a project.. When he filled in for Marian Finucane last year I thought he was good, but he's still trying to be a comedian...

    Another RTE square peg in a round hole...
    John Murray cast (apparently) as a comedian :confused:
    Tubridy cast as light entertainment :confused:

    They should have left Tubridy where he was (9am-10am on Radio One), left Murray where he was (The Business Show).. and got somebody new for the Gerry Ryan slot..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Big Tone


    Murray is quite a good broadcaster but he should've been left on Morning Ireland and The Business while Pat Kenny, who offered to start at 9am, should've had his wish granted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Big Tone wrote: »
    Murray is quite a good broadcaster but he should've been left on Morning Ireland and The Business while Pat Kenny, who offered to start at 9am, should've had his wish granted.

    He is in his bollox, boring Doob accent, and the spontaneity of a lung shot ox.


    He had an interview with a mother and a daughter who had a baby recently.

    young Shannon.

    Murray floundered like a beached walrus throughout the interview. Didn't know what to say, didn't know who to address the questions to, floundered throughout the whole episode, despite obvious prompting in his earpiece.

    Tubridy would have eased through that interview as smooth as silk and seamlessly would have integrated everything into a smooth performance, and an interesting programme.

    Murray was staccato and stiff and out of his depth.

    Useless and lightweight broadcaster who should go back to what he is best at, PR or Press Officer for some left wing Political party.

    Absolute rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Was anyone listening today with the replacement presenter(don't know her name)?


    Presenter:"Call in if you are between 40 and 60.. " then to producer "Should we not leave this until John Murray gets back".... Few seconds silence, and she continues reading out.

    Very unprofessional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    syklops wrote: »
    Was anyone listening today with the replacement presenter(don't know her name)?


    Presenter:"Call in if you are between 40 and 60.. " then to producer "Should we not leave this until John Murray gets back".... Few seconds silence, and she continues reading out.

    Very unprofessional.

    It was no more than a mild jest: Kathryn Thomas (the stand-in) is in her early thirties, and was suggesting that Murray might be better qualified to deal with content targeted for people aged between 40 and 60.

    We were intended to hear it, and the pause to give us a chance to get the joke was far less than a few seconds -- apparently not long enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Ok, I didnt pick up on it being a joke, but you're explanation makes sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Did anybody here John's "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" thing this morning.. how can he this this stuff is funny.. Like was said above, he was good at the business stuff, he's awful at comedy... Why oh why did RTE move him???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Nope, soon as I hear that dreadful Doob accent, I switch her off till 1000.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I decided to try and give this programme another chance this morning.

    I lasted about 9 seconds.

    Or (for those who were tuned in), midway through the second sentence of the letter he read out while imitating the Queen.

    Awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Nope, hit the off button as soon as the news finished.


    Terrible stuff....and getting worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭snickerpuss


    It's like listening to a radio show hosted by your dad. Trying to be funny, failing horribly and making me cringe like nothing else! Eeeek.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Lapin wrote: »
    Or (for those who were tuned in), midway through the second sentence of the letter he read out while imitating the Queen.

    I heard it.. horrific.. 9-10am output from RTE radio is really poor..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭rebeve


    Gave up on JM months ago ,rubbish of a very high calibre .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Bobba Fett


    Absolute rubbish. JM is just not funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    very surprised this is so bad. I actually thought he was ok on the weekend business show. Absolute nothing on it that might attract listeners to do anything apart from change station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    very surprised this is so bad. I actually thought he was ok on the weekend business show.

    agree 100%.. he filled in for Marian Finucane one weekend and I thought he was really good.. but this show is just awful..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Bobba Fett wrote: »
    Absolute rubbish. JM is just not funny.

    You see, thats the whole thing.

    Maybe if he stopped trying to be a comedian people might take him more seriously.

    I fail to understand why RTÉ are casting him in the role of a clown when he is a presenter of obvious intelligence.

    If they insist on dumbing down the 9-10 slot, then use a presenter who can fit the role.

    John Murray has a flair for dealing with more weighty issues with his own unique laid back style. He proved himself every week on the business programme and it was much more enjoyable than it is now with George Lee at the helm.

    I get the feeling he is uncomfortable with the format he finds himself working with now.

    He deserves better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Lapin wrote: »
    You see, thats the whole thing.

    Maybe if he stopped trying to be a comedian people might take him more seriously.

    I fail to understand why RTÉ are casting him in the role of a clown when he is a presenter of obvious intelligence.

    If they insist on dumbing down the 9-10 slot, then use a presenter who can fit the role.

    John Murray has a flair for dealing with more weighty issues with his own unique laid back style. He proved himself every week on the business programme and it was much more enjoyable than it is now with George Lee at the helm.

    I get the feeling he is uncomfortable with the format he finds himself working with now.

    He deserves better.

    My mother used to say the exact same thing about Pat Kenny back when he was starting out. That he was a bit wacky, and unfunny, and unsuited to Entertainment type roles/DJ'ing. Then he got his own show and allowed do what he wanted to do, and he did great. I have a feeling John Murrays problem is a form of micro-management by a producer(s) in RTE. I have heard him do serious interviews and he makes Tubridy sound like an amateur.


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