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dahat · 12-03-2012 10:25am

pah wrote: »

Not really, 3142 so far

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Dempsey · 12-03-2012 3:57pm

I bottled out of playing Caulker, I was afraid of playing 3 Swansea players against ManC so I brought in Simpson instead.

/bangs head against the wall!

carlcon · 13-03-2012 12:19am

United's next 3 away games are against Wolves, Blackburn, and Wigan. Then you can almost always rely on a performance at home (Fulham, QPR, Villa).

I think the best advice anyone can give now is "stock up on United players!".

I've got one in each position. But if Evans wasn't so cheap, I'd probably be happier with 3 attacking options.

S.M.B. · 13-03-2012 1:41am

But the problem with United is that beyond Evra, Carrick, Rooney and maybe Evans it's very difficult to guarantee +180 minutes of playing time over those 3 games let alone the rest of the season.

Jimmy Iovine · 13-03-2012 3:27am

If you go to a person's page at the moment and check in the bottom right under the "Transfers & Finance" heading can you see how many transfers a person has made for next week?

I'm looking at a friends here and he has 4 transfers on it. He only made 2 last week so I'm inclined to think that it is true. On my own page I haven't made any transfers and it comes up as zero.

It isn't the greatest thing in the world. I know now that I'll have a 12 point advantage over him before I even start next week. And that he will probably have dropped Ba, Suarez, Kuyt and another player. It makes my week easier but I really shouldn't know these things. It was never like this before, was it?

Shane732 · 13-03-2012 9:36am

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

If you go to a person's page at the moment and check in the bottom right under the "Transfers & Finance" heading can you see how many transfers a person has made for next week?

I'm looking at a friends here and he has 4 transfers on it. He only made 2 last week so I'm inclined to think that it is true. On my own page I haven't made any transfers and it comes up as zero.

It isn't the greatest thing in the world. I know now that I'll have a 12 point advantage over him before I even start next week. And that he will probably have dropped Ba, Suarez, Kuyt and another player. It makes my week easier but I really shouldn't know these things. It was never like this before, was it?

What?

SickBoy · 13-03-2012 9:41am

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

If you go to a person's page at the moment and check in the bottom right under the "Transfers & Finance" heading can you see how many transfers a person has made for next week?

I'm looking at a friends here and he has 4 transfers on it. He only made 2 last week so I'm inclined to think that it is true. On my own page I haven't made any transfers and it comes up as zero.

It isn't the greatest thing in the world. I know now that I'll have a 12 point advantage over him before I even start next week. And that he will probably have dropped Ba, Suarez, Kuyt and another player. It makes my week easier but I really shouldn't know these things. It was never like this before, was it?

I just checked this myself and you're right. I thought this was sorted out after the 1st game week!

PopTarts · 13-03-2012 9:54am

BP's for Arsenal match probably not out till tomorrow?

S.M.B. · 13-03-2012 10:34am

Ben Arfa (1)
Vermaelen (2)
Van Persie (3)

lovely stuff

kennyb3 · 13-03-2012 10:52am

S.M.B. wrote: »

Ben Arfa (1)
Vermaelen (2)
Van Persie (3)

lovely stuff

Vermaelen really deserves them bonus points after gifting newcastle their goal

Fizman · 13-03-2012 11:02am

kennyb3 wrote: »

Vermaelen really deserves them bonus points after gifting newcastle their goal

Rosicky and Walcott deserved points more so than RVP imo.

roryc · 13-03-2012 11:14am

Fizman wrote: »

Rosicky and Walcott deserved points more so than RVP imo.

Didn't see the match but the amount of times Walcott was mentione on BBC, Im amazed he didn't pick any up.

<Insert rant about sh*t BP system here>

iroced · 13-03-2012 12:37pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

If you go to a person's page at the moment and check in the bottom right under the "Transfers & Finance" heading can you see how many transfers a person has made for next week?

I'm looking at a friends here and he has 4 transfers on it. He only made 2 last week so I'm inclined to think that it is true. On my own page I haven't made any transfers and it comes up as zero.

It isn't the greatest thing in the world. I know now that I'll have a 12 point advantage over him before I even start next week. And that he will probably have dropped Ba, Suarez, Kuyt and another player. It makes my week easier but I really shouldn't know these things. It was never like this before, was it?

It has ALWAYS been the case

. But unlike the bug at the beginning of the season you can't see which transfer(s) he/she 's made. Of course you can guess, but you can guess wrong. I don't think it's that much of an issue. I actually think it's a "nice" thing. There's some kind of psychological battle in it. It can put a little pressure on your transfer choice(s).

token56 · 13-03-2012 1:12pm

Getting very close at the top of the boards league. Not doing well myself this season but its great to see the quality of the boards league is as high as ever, top 50 all inside the top 10000 overall. Very good going.

Jimmy Iovine · 13-03-2012 1:25pm

iroced wrote: »

It has ALWAYS been the case . But unlike the bug at the beginning of the season you can't see which transfer(s) he/she 's made. Of course you can guess, but you can guess wrong. I don't think it's that much of an issue. I actually think it's a "nice" thing. There's some kind of psychological battle in it. It can put a little pressure on your transfer choice(s).

I'm only after noticing it this week.

It has definitely put me under some pressure now. I have a good few players I'm dying to get rid of. Really don't want to take a points hit though. In the past they have almost never worked out for me.

carlcon · 13-03-2012 1:37pm

FPL doesn't want me making any transfers this week...

Mr. Guappa · 13-03-2012 1:42pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

If you go to a person's page at the moment and check in the bottom right under the "Transfers & Finance" heading can you see how many transfers a person has made for next week?

I'm looking at a friends here and he has 4 transfers on it. He only made 2 last week so I'm inclined to think that it is true. On my own page I haven't made any transfers and it comes up as zero.

It isn't the greatest thing in the world. I know now that I'll have a 12 point advantage over him before I even start next week. And that he will probably have dropped Ba, Suarez, Kuyt and another player. It makes my week easier but I really shouldn't know these things. It was never like this before, was it?

This has always been the case. You can see how many transfers another team has made ahead of the next GW but you have to wait until the transfer window closes to see what those transfers were.

iroced · 13-03-2012 5:21pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

It has definitely put me under some pressure now. I have a good few players I'm dying to get rid of. Really don't want to take a points hit though. In the past they have almost never worked out for me.

The thing with points hit is : how to look at them? If you only consider the GW you're taking the hit, it rarely works unless you've tons of injuries/bans/long suspensions... But if you consider a longer period (4-5 or even more GWs) it could well pay out. You could also be tight on cash and be "forced" to gamble on a point hit to save your "freedom of choices" transfer wise.
Then you just need to get your choices right. If I take my personal example, I ruined my season GW 7 with a 8 pts hit: Nani-Tiote-Dyer in Sessegnon-Sinclair-Eagles out. I thought it would work on the long run and I needed to get rid of my dead wood I thought I had given them enough chances. Well, it turned out the guys I shipped out started to overperform and the ones I took in underperform. It took me a month to recover (as I didn't want to take other points hit) and I lost around 80 pts in the process... Getting the timing of your transfer right is the most important thing in FF. it's also the toughest...

carlcon · 13-03-2012 5:34pm

I treat points hits the same as any other transfer, by using the most ridiculously obvious rule there is... It's only worth it if the person you bring in is better than the person you ship out. It's the only way to look at it, IMO.

The only difference is that you've brought in 2 or 3 transfers instead of one... so you're hoping for more than one to live up to that rule, lengthening the odds of it happening.

If there's a better player out there, go for it. 4 points is nothing.

If you then go on to lose your league by 3 points, it's not because you took a 4 point hit... it's because you made the wrong choice of player when taking that 4 point hit.

Jimmy Iovine · 13-03-2012 5:40pm

iroced wrote: »

The thing with points hit is : how to look at them? If you only consider the GW you're taking the hit, it rarely works unless you've tons of injuries/bans/long suspensions... But if you consider a longer period (4-5 or even more GWs) it could well pay out. You could also be tight on cash and be "forced" to gamble on a point hit to save your "freedom of choices" transfer wise.
Then you just need to get your choices right. If I take my personal example, I ruined my season GW 7 with a 8 pts hit: Nani-Tiote-Dyer in Sessegnon-Sinclair-Eagles out. I thought it would work on the long run and I needed to get rid of my dead wood I thought I had given them enough chances. Well, it turned out the guys I shipped out started to overperform and the ones I took in underperform. It took me a month to recover (as I didn't want to take other points hit) and I lost around 80 pts in the process... Getting the timing of your transfer right is the most important thing in FF. it's also the toughest...

I see what you're saying. In previous years I've gone chasing the leaders and it has resulted in me taking hits left right and centre to try and get in players who then do absolutely nothing for me.

I haven't taken a single hit this season. It's no coincidence that it's also my best season in my 3 years playing. I've missed out on a lot of extra cash as a result and if it wasn't for GW 15 and 22 then I'd have almost no money at all.

I said at the start of the season that I was not going to take a hit and I've stuck to it. I'm willing to break that though come the last few weeks. If I've 10 points to make up and I can get them through an extra transfer then I'll do it.

I won't take a hit this week I don't think. I'm going to do Silva to Young. Should have done it last week with my WC but you live and learn.

Might also ship Suarez out depending on how he does tonight. If he gets a goal then he stays for another week. If not then I'll seriously consider either Yak or Pog for him. Dunno if either would be worth the hit, although I see Yakubu may rise in price tonight.

My indecisions over all these transfers makes me glad that I'm not managing in the PL. I'd be a disaster I reckon.

Stevecw · 13-03-2012 7:14pm

52 so far which is ok. Hopefully for FF reasons and my own that Enrique at least gets a no goals against...plus if he can have an assist or 2 plus a goal it'd help!

I see I've got into top 400 in Ireland, and was checking out top teams in the whole game. 2 of the top 3 are Irish! I'm back at nearly 3000th!

redarmy · 13-03-2012 7:57pm

NO ADAM FOR LIVERPOOL

carlcon · 13-03-2012 7:59pm

token56 wrote: »

Getting very close at the top of the boards league. Not doing well myself this season but its great to see the quality of the boards league is as high as ever, top 50 all inside the top 10000 overall. Very good going.

I almost had a heart attack when I saw there were 0 points between me and Ade. Forgot I had 15 points coming off the bench. All is well. :pac:

shadowcomplex · 13-03-2012 8:38pm

Going onto tonight I am now just 6 points behind the leader of my work league after being 150 pts behind at one stage, I have Suarez with my captain Vpersie having played last night, the guy ahead of me bizarrely has enrique as captain. I think I have him caught for sure, because he doesnt have Rooney or Vpersie. My team is now worth 111.0 and I have 0.3m in the bank, its a great team if I do say so myself

carlcon · 13-03-2012 8:44pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Going onto tonight I am now just 6 points behind the leader of my work league after being 150 pts behind at one stage, I have Suarez with my captain Vpersie having played last night, the guy ahead of me bizarrely has enrique as captain. I think I have him caught for sure, because he doesnt have Rooney or Vpersie. My team is now worth 111.0 and I have 0.3m in the bank, its a great team if I do say so myself

Not at all criticising the team, just an observation; I call these teams "generic Boards teams". I have 9 of your starting 11, and one on the bench. I bet at least a dozen others reading this can say similar.

shadowcomplex · 13-03-2012 9:12pm

carlcon wrote: »

Not at all criticising the team, just an observation; I call these teams "generic Boards teams". I have 9 of your starting 11, and one on the bench. I bet at least a dozen others reading this can say similar.

all I care about is my work league

shadowcomplex · 13-03-2012 9:18pm

what would you guys choose between Shawcross or an everton defender of a similar price?

Mr Moon · 13-03-2012 9:27pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

what would you guys choose between Shawcross or an everton defender of a similar price?

I'd probably go with the Everton player, they're looking good in defense recently, and are always strong finishers to the league.

DazzlerIE · 13-03-2012 11:30pm

Going to keep an eye on United's Europa League game with a view to getting a United mid in for Silva

Sick of his 2 points every week

manual_man · 13-03-2012 11:35pm

DazzlerIE wrote: »

Going to keep an eye on United's Europa League game with a view to getting a United mid in for Silva

Sick of his 2 points every week

I think I've decided I'm going to stick with him. Have a feeling he'll come good again. I think City will end their sticky patch with a win over Chelsea in a weeks time

PopTarts · 13-03-2012 11:38pm

DazzlerIE wrote: »

Going to keep an eye on United's Europa League game with a view to getting a United mid in for Silva

Sick of his 2 points every week

People seem to think Silva does nothing.

In his last 8 games he's got 40 points total (which includes a 9, two 8's, a 6, and a 5)

In all games where he played over 60 mins (24) only 4 have been 2 pointers.

He's a great player.

Jimmy Iovine · 14-03-2012 12:13am

PopTarts wrote: »

People seem to think Silva does nothing.

In his last 8 games he's got 40 points total (which includes a 9, two 8's, a 6, and a 5)

In all games where he played over 60 mins (24) only 4 have been 2 pointers.

He's a great player.

The frustration that I have with him is more that he hasn't done anything in the last 6 games bar get one assist.

At home City are brilliant. They win every game 2/3-0. Away from home it's another story. You have to go back to the 5th of November for the last time that they scored more than one goal away from home. In the 8 games since then they have scored 4 goals. That's absolutely awful for a team of their talent. They have a few tricky away games coming up as well.

In their last 14 games, since 10th of December, United have averaged 2.67 goals a game. That includes scoring 5 goals at Fulham, and 3 each at Chelsea and Spurs.

With Rooney in the form that he is, Ashley Young coming back into it, and City and United's respective scoring form I think it people are right to think that there might be better value for their money than Silva at this moment in time.

carlcon · 14-03-2012 6:05am

This is why you need a cheap back 7. That way, instead of choosing between Silva and a United midfielder, you just have both.

Very few members here won't have enough for Rooney, RVP, and 4 top midfielders, as long as the rest of their money is invested well. With Bale and Dempsey being the 2 other "obvious" choices, you should also have enough for Silva and Young/Nani/anybody else around 9-10m too.

Jax Teller · 14-03-2012 10:26am

Valencia has travelled with the united squad today . Might be time to get him back in

Jimmy Iovine · 14-03-2012 2:47pm

Just looking at the lad who is coming second overall. He still has Walters in his team, and his sub keeper (who seems to be played a lot) is the infamous John Ruddy.

I find it amazing that he's doing so well with them two on his team. Surely he'd have dropped a few places by now. Fair play to him, he's going steady in the top 10 for the last 11 GWs.

carlcon · 14-03-2012 2:53pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Just looking at the lad who is coming second overall. He still has Walters in his team, and his sub keeper (who seems to be played a lot) is the infamous John Ruddy.

I find it amazing that he's doing so well with them two on his team. Surely he'd have dropped a few places by now. Fair play to him, he's going steady in the top 10 for the last 11 GWs.

I've stopped looking at the very top, because every time I do I can't help but feel this game is just one big roll of a dice. At one point, 3 of the top 5 teams had Joey Barton (at a time when he hadn't scored anything), amongst some other strange ones.

Saying that, this comment just made me look. 1st has Drogba instead of Rooney. I don't think Drogba has been mentioned once on here in months, yet in the last 3 games, he's scored 11, 2, and 9. Goes to show how narrow-minded we can get in here when we don't open up to outside possibilities. I think I might go back to keeping an eye on them. I'm exactly 100 points off the top!

FutureGuy · 14-03-2012 2:56pm

carlcon wrote: »

I've stopped looking at the very top, because every time I do I can't help but feel this game is just one big roll of a dice.

*but, for the most part, it is...

roryc · 14-03-2012 3:08pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

*but, for the most part, it is...

More like 38 spins of the dice! Lot of luck in the game, don't think I've seen many that consistently finish in top 5,000.

Im definitely at the highest I've been all season, up to 844th in the world and joint 6th in boards. Only aim now is to stay inside the top 1,000 for the rest of the season.

Anyone else still in the cup? We're down to the last 1,024, but I can't see myself going a huge amount further. The idea struck me that there's probably a few people that have entered teams in purely to play the cup, and can field a new 11 each week. Can't really compete with that.

Jimmy Iovine · 14-03-2012 3:11pm

carlcon wrote: »

I've stopped looking at the very top, because every time I do I can't help but feel this game is just one big roll of a dice. At one point, 3 of the top 5 teams had Joey Barton (at a time when he hadn't scored anything), amongst some other strange ones.

Saying that, this comment just made me look. 1st has Drogba instead of Rooney. I don't think Drogba has been mentioned once on here in months, yet in the last 3 games, he's scored 11, 2, and 9. Goes to show how narrow-minded we can get in here when we don't open up to outside possibilities. I think I might go back to keeping an eye on them. I'm exactly 100 points off the top!

The way I see it is that one HUGE week (a 95 when everyone else gets 40/50) is the one that gets you well on your way to being in the top 100.

I've looked at his scores and for the last 9 weeks his average score has been 63.111. My average score has been 62.2222. Now I've gone from 48,000 overall in to 5,000. On the other hand he is already up there so that can keep him close to the top.

There is only a 9 point difference between our scores for the last 9 weeks. If I was in his position then I'd be doing the exact same as him. Third place is a good bit back.

For the score that got him into the top 100, he had RVP as captain. I had Mata. I wasn't on the RVP bandwagon at that stage and it really hurt me.

For that guy anyway the difference I see between him and me is that he probably got on the RVP and Ba bandwagon early. He was also quite lucky with his captain picks. That's where the luck comes into it I think. Luck, and the gambling initiative to pick RVP when no one else has him.

Having said all that I'm still 168 points behind him. I may have matched him recently but I doubt I'd have been able to get to where he is.

carlcon · 14-03-2012 3:13pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

*but, for the most part, it is...

I think it is for those who go for high weekly scores. Getting 100+ in a week is almost entirely luck-driven. But those who play consistently, averaging 60+ over a whole season must be doing something right, beyond getting lucky.

Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.

Dempsey · 14-03-2012 3:50pm

The key to FPL is to consistently beat the average of every gameweek by 10+ points. If you can manage that, you will not be far off winning this game outright.

roryc · 14-03-2012 3:59pm

I think getting top 5,000 is skill, anything higher than that is luck. Captain choice over the space of the year is a massive factor in your end position.

Would be a good idea to take a screenshot of the finishing top 50 in the boards league this year to see how people perform next year.

Fizman · 14-03-2012 4:24pm

Around this time last year I reached an all time high of 43rd......globally! Was top of Boards for a bit and a good few others. Would have won the cash league had I entered. Of course this season was a big drop off in form. Not accessing the site before a few GWs early in the season got me off to a very poor start. Will give it a good bash next year.

Out of interest, is there any way I can check out my performance last year?

AdpRo · 14-03-2012 4:44pm

roryc wrote: »

More like 38 spins of the dice! Lot of luck in the game, don't think I've seen many that consistently finish in top 5,000.

Im definitely at the highest I've been all season, up to 844th in the world and joint 6th in Ireland. Only aim now is to stay inside the top 1,000 for the rest of the season.

Anyone else still in the cup? We're down to the last 1,024, but I can't see myself going a huge amount further. The idea struck me that there's probably a few people that have entered teams in purely to play the cup, and can field a new 11 each week. Can't really compete with that.

Don't mean to be picky or anything but the bit in bold cannot be true, there is no way you are 6th in Ireland if you are only 844th in the world, I know a guy who is top 50 in the world but is just inside the top 10 in Ireland.

DazzlerIE · 14-03-2012 4:47pm

I'm 80 in the world and 16 in Ireland, so it can't be true

roryc · 14-03-2012 4:48pm

Weetabix wrote: »

Don't mean to be picky or anything but the bit in bold cannot be true, there is no way you are 6th in Ireland if you are only 844th in the world, I know a guy who is top 50 in the world but is just inside the top 10 in Ireland.

Oops, just saw that myself and edited! Joint 6th in boards

113th in Ireland! The guy winning the Irish league is 2nd in the world which ain't too bad. My brothers mate got 3rd two years ago and I think he said all the top 3 were Irish.

DazzlerIE · 14-03-2012 4:49pm

Dempsey wrote: »

The key to FPL is to consistently beat the average of every gameweek by 10+ points. If you can manage that, you will not be far off winning this game outright.

this is spot on

I've only came in below 50 points in a gameweek five times this season, and I've been in the top 1000 since gameweek 16

As long as I finish ten points above average, I consider a gameweek a success

roryc · 14-03-2012 4:55pm

DazzlerIE wrote: »

this is spot on

I've only came in below 50 points in a gameweek five times this season, and I've been in the top 1000 since gameweek 16

As long as I finish ten points above average, I consider a gameweek a success

To an extent... I think I've only dipped below 50 5 times too but I'm a bit behind you, captain choice over the course of the season makes a big difference I think. How have you done on this?

Also, your in 80th? Here's some hope for ya, the guy who was in 80th last week has jumped to 6th, brought in Gerrard and captained him to help him to 108 points, unbelievable...

Fizman · 14-03-2012 5:09pm

Was just looking at possible transfers for next week, and just noticed another indication as to how sh1t the bonus point system is......Rosicky hasn't gotten a single bonus point yet.

iroced · 14-03-2012 5:18pm

I think removing the captain thing and counting the points of your 15 man squad could take out a little bit the "luck factor". It would certainly reward the more balanced teams. So many "early" players are still getting decent scores from Rooney captain for example.
I'll be really interested if they were proposing this ranking. Just to compare it with the current one. What differences it could make.

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