Gaa

mickgotsick · 02-03-2012 4:46pm

fryup wrote: »

Football (soccer to culchies) - controlling the ball with your feet not your hands, controlling the ball on your chest, heading the ball, timing your runs so as not to go offside, scoring a freekick over a wall of players, trying not to get you're hairdo messed up, acting like you've been shot in the leg when the ball is taken off you near the box etc.

Rugby - Kicking an oval ball a long distance so that it touches the ground before it goes out, timing your pass to your inside runner, the offload pass from a tackle, the lineout > directing an arrow straight pass between two lines of players, scrumaging, the drop kick etc

You forgot a few major skills of soccer

Seachmall · 02-03-2012 4:49pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

You forgot a few major skills of soccer

Shaking hands before a match?

Oh, no, wait...

dirtyden · 02-03-2012 4:53pm

My name is URL wrote: »

I think it's a load of parochial shite

Can you expand on this?

CucaFace · 02-03-2012 4:53pm

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I've played it too, you're not unique in this situation. Also, you said that "the tactical elelment in Gaelic football has become too much an influence" which is implying that you think the game should be played without tactics, which to me is boollox. It also contrdicts what you say above.

Well in my opinion since the tactical influx of the blanket defence, the game of Gaelic football has deteriorated.

You only have to look at the tripe Donegal served up last year to see my point.

But this is only one tactic which I personally don't like, there are so many others that exist in the game which you for some reason chose not to acknowledge.

So can you still stand by your comment that GAA does not have any tactics? Yes or no?

2ndcoming · 02-03-2012 4:54pm

latenia wrote: »

I reckon most men between the ages of 15 and 35 could do that easily enough-kicking a ball 40 yards out of their hands. How many GAA players could do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiYYSradplU

Not a great example.. after all, how many soccer players could do that either?!

GavRedKing · 02-03-2012 4:54pm

Dont like it, never have really.

No interest in Hurling or Gaelic Football.

GavRedKing · 02-03-2012 4:56pm

2ndcoming wrote: »

Not a great example.. after all, how many soccer players could do that either?!

This guy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzXsdZJ5AQ

44leto · 02-03-2012 5:01pm

I absolutely love it, although Dublin can drive me to tears and to shouting a lot of profanities and breaking my heart you do get moments like last years all Ireland.

Now for 2 in a row, PS watch the Dublin Hurlers this year.

Abi · 02-03-2012 5:02pm

cassi wrote: »

cena wrote: »

How much of a gaa guy are you. Like are you mad about the sport

What about the girls?? Are we excluded from this conversation!

I'm more surprised you want in on it.

Instead of costly anaesthetics surgeons should just put on a gaa match for the patient, the fcuker would be out cold in seconds.

mickgotsick · 02-03-2012 5:04pm

Abi wrote: »

I'm more surprised you want in on it.

Instead of costly anaesthetics surgeons should just put on a gaa match for the patient, the fcuker would be out cold in seconds.

If that doesn't work, an F1 race will certainly do the trick.

Jacknory · 02-03-2012 5:06pm

fryup wrote: »

Football (soccer to culchies) - controlling the ball with your feet not your hands, controlling the ball on your chest, heading the ball, timing your runs so as not to go offside, scoring a freekick over a wall of players, etc

Rugby - Kicking an oval ball a long distance so that it touches the ground before it goes out, timing your pass to your inside runner, the offload pass from a tackle, the lineout > directing an arrow straight pass between two lines of players, scrumaging, the drop kick etc

Soccer (football to west brits) - getting the right hair style/tattoo/earings (which have to be taped anyway :rolleyes:), controlling the ball with your hand, diving to win frees/penalities, rolling around in agony when an unopened boot lace brushes by your leg........plenty of skills there alright!!!

Rugby - except for the oval ball most of this skillset is practiced in football as well albeit with handpasses/kicks instead of the rugby handpass.

midlandsmissus · 02-03-2012 5:13pm

2ndcoming wrote: »

While I have great respect for the skills and fitness required to play Gaelic football or hurling, I don't think it's fair to say that it brings communities together.

It is incredibly insular and cliquey at club level. GAA families predominate where the Dads hang around the club the whole time trying to increase their kid's chances of making the team, and the mothers hang around the whole time gossiping with each other over rumours they've heard about other people's children ("did you hear her young lad's gone down a bad road?"), or other people's husbands ("I heard he lost the lot/I heard he's riding yer wan from the post office") all while making a few sangitches for the lads.

For the massive fundraising power it has, which really has no equal in Ireland, the vast amount (match gates, etc.) goes direct to HQ (if not into the pocket of the cute hoor working the gate first). It rarely in my experience does anything to support non-GAA related local issues, or indeed non-GAA related local sports or amenities.

Sure they'll have a few charity do's a year and pat themselves on the back, but between widespread illegal payments to managers at just about all levels and codes and the amount that goes straight to the big pot at head office, there's a lot more good things that could be done locally with those funds.

That's not to say it does no good, the good it does will probably make a load of people try and tear this post apart, but for me it could certainly do a lot more, and the insular nature of it is it's own worst enemy in the long run.

The bad thing about GAA is it is so big in the country that it is like a religion and you're not allowed say a bad word/speak out about it.

It has it's good points, no-one's denying that, it gives people something to do, and an option to be part of a team.

The bad part is in villages: if your brother, father uncle etc doesn't play GAA you're nearly looked down upon.

I say this because I have quite a bookish brother, and if I go anywhere round the county and say I'm from 'X' village, the first question I usually get asked is 'Oh Do you have a brother that plays for X village?'

No. Am I defined by this like?

GAA families dominate the villages, and if your not into the GAA it's seen as almost shocking.
Like, GAA lads I know only hang around together, or with lads from college say, that play on a college GAA team with them, they won't hang around with anyone else.

That is how it is insular, it doesn't encourage people who want to do other things to express their interest.

gerryg80 · 02-03-2012 5:14pm

For all the lovers http://lovegaa.ie/

latenia · 02-03-2012 5:18pm

2ndcoming wrote: »

Not a great example.. after all, how many soccer players could do that either?!

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

Sunnyisland · 02-03-2012 5:19pm

I quite enjoy watching GAA, both the football & hurling, Some great games and passion cant beat it.

Abi · 02-03-2012 5:19pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

If that doesn't work, an F1 race will certainly do the trick.

I can't wait for it to kick off again. Have paddock tickets for Bavaria in June too.

Jimmy Macnulty · 02-03-2012 5:21pm

latenia wrote: »

I reckon most men between the ages of 15 and 35 could do that easily enough-kicking a ball 40 yards out of their hands. How many GAA players could do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiYYSradplU

Are you serious!? Eh id safely say only a handful of inter county players could score a point like that! That is pure individual skill. I tell ya what go to a Gaa pitch tonight bring a oneills football and try it and let me know how you get on. the example you posted up of Maradona is laughable!!

mickgotsick · 02-03-2012 5:22pm

Abi wrote: »

I can't wait for it to kick off again. Have paddock tickets for Bavaria in June too.

Don't forget your duvet.

Chips Ahoy · 02-03-2012 5:22pm

latenia wrote: »

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

Haha no way would they win it with 2 months training

Sunnyisland · 02-03-2012 5:25pm

latenia wrote: »

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

But would they do it for no money ???:P

CucaFace · 02-03-2012 5:25pm

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

:rolleyes: Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read on AH in quite a while!

latenia wrote: »

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

Duckworth_Luas you spoke too early. :rolleyes:

Duckworth_Luas · 02-03-2012 5:27pm

Chips Ahoy wrote: »

Haha no way would they win it with 2 months training

Of couse they would, and the Rugby World Cup and the Stanley Cup too! Even if they'd never seen American Football they'd win a Superbowl. Sure even if they had no arms they'd still win the World Series. Supermen they are!

Jimmy Macnulty · 02-03-2012 5:28pm

latenia wrote: »

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

And you know this how!!??

The daftest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.

Jacknory · 02-03-2012 5:28pm

latenia wrote: »

In the history of soccer, maybe a couple of hundred. In the history of GAA, zero. I reckon you could take any Premiership or Championship soccer squad, give them a month or two training and they would win the All-Ireland at a canter.

They wouldn't have the fitness or be able for the "physical nature" of the game........even Arsene Wenger couldn't believe how fit GAA players were to the extend that he invited Graham Geraghty over London to meet his team. Win the all-ireland at a canter :rolleyes:

Zebra3 · 02-03-2012 5:30pm

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

Greatest amateur sports organisation in the world.

Thank god it doesn't normally attract the scumbag fans you see at soccer games. Can go to any ground in Ireland without intimidation (unless you look for it!)

The GAA have the best stadium in Ireland and that's a credit to an amateur organisation.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-found-guilty-of-assault-croke-park-final-3037630.html

Two found guilty of assault Croke Park final

Thursday March 01 2012

TWO men have been found guilty of assaulting the referee at the end of a controversial Croke Park clash between Louth and Meath in the summer of 2010.

Joseph Conlon, 23, Haggardstown, Dundalk and Paul Grimes, 50, Willowdale Bay Estate, Dundalk had denied the charges. They were fined €1,000 each.

Judge Bridget Reilly rejected defence claims that the men had no case to answer because referee Martin Sludden withdrew his complaint.

Mr Sludden was attacked by Louth fans after he allowed Meath a goal in the closing seconds of the GAA’s Leinster Senior Football Final, which was decided n Meath’s favour by a controversial goal.

who what when wrote: »

I know this isnt the most serious of forums but your post is so wrong i had to reply. The GAA is the most community centred organisation in ireland.
They accept people no matter where they are from. As a case and point the wexford under 21 footballers had a lad called lee chin playing for them the other night against dublin. If the GAA are xenophobic how do you explain that?

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap like The Ban whereby grown meant went to watch other sports and if they saw other GAA members there, they'd write their names down in a little book and run back to the local clubhouse and rat on them.

Real f***ing hard men, eh? :rolleyes:

And then there are its very close links to the child rapists of the Catholic church, even allowing some RC bishops to throw the ball in at a match while kitted out in their religious dresses. How open minded is that towards those of other religions and none? :rolleyes:

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned how some "foreign" sports were banned from their ground (like football and rugby) while others like boxing and American football were more than welcome. Nice bit of hypocrisy there....

And then there is the ban they imposed on certain Irish people from being involved in their sports.....

Inclusive? Community minded?

You must be joking.

The GAA simply reflects everything about small minded Ireland.

c_man · 02-03-2012 5:35pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap like The Ban whereby grown meant went to watch other sports and if they saw other GAA members there, they'd write their names down in a little book and run back to the local clubhouse and rat on them.

Real f***ing hard men, eh? :rolleyes:

And then there are its very close links to the child rapists of the Catholic church, even allowing some RC bishops to throw the ball in at a match while kitted out in their religious dresses. How open minded is that towards those of other religions and none? :rolleyes:

You do know that both of these things haven't happened for decades. The ban was revoked in 1971, over forty years ago. Perhaps you're the one living in the past?

Chips Ahoy · 02-03-2012 5:35pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-found-guilty-of-assault-croke-park-final-3037630.html

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap like The Ban whereby grown meant went to watch other sports and if they saw other GAA members there, they'd write their names down in a little book and run back to the local clubhouse and rat on them.

Real f***ing hard men, eh? :rolleyes:

And then there are its very close links to the child rapists of the Catholic church, even allowing some RC bishops to throw the ball in at a match while kitted out in their religious dresses. How open minded is that towards those of other religions and none? :rolleyes:

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned how some "foreign" sports were banned from their ground (like football and rugby) while others like boxing and American football were more than welcome. Nice bit of hypocrisy there....

And then there is the ban they imposed on certain Irish people from being involved in their sports.....

Inclusive? Community minded?

You must be joking.

The GAA simply reflects everything about small minded Ireland.

Stop living in the past the game has moved on from those days.

midlandsmissus · 02-03-2012 5:38pm

Chips Ahoy wrote: »

Stop living in the past the game has moved on from those days.

You don't think young lads are pressured into playing GAA?

Jimmy Macnulty · 02-03-2012 5:39pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-found-guilty-of-assault-croke-park-final-3037630.html

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap like The Ban whereby grown meant went to watch other sports and if they saw other GAA members there, they'd write their names down in a little book and run back to the local clubhouse and rat on them.

Real f***ing hard men, eh? :rolleyes:

And then there are its very close links to the child rapists of the Catholic church, even allowing some RC bishops to throw the ball in at a match while kitted out in their religious dresses. How open minded is that towards those of other religions and none? :rolleyes:

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned how some "foreign" sports were banned from their ground (like football and rugby) while others like boxing and American football were more than welcome. Nice bit of hypocrisy there....

And then there is the ban they imposed on certain Irish people from being involved in their sports.....

Inclusive? Community minded?

You must be joking.

The GAA simply reflects everything about small minded Ireland.

Ha Ha Zebra3. that made me laugh!! Your digging up stuff from 50 years or more! The country has developed a small bit since then!! All sports has its bad side.

The GAA built a stadium everyone wanted to play in. Was the kick in the arse the IRFU and FAI needed to upgrade their stadium. If the GAA allowed all other sports to play in croker years ago I wonder would the new landsdowne road have ever happened!!?

Explain the last point please!?

Chips Ahoy · 02-03-2012 5:41pm

midlandsmissus wrote: »

You don't think young lads are pressured into playing GAA?

No , i live in mayo never really played gaa underage only soccer never got any hassle about that.

CucaFace · 02-03-2012 5:43pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/two-found-guilty-of-assault-croke-park-final-3037630.html

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap like The Ban whereby grown meant went to watch other sports and if they saw other GAA members there, they'd write their names down in a little book and run back to the local clubhouse and rat on them.

Real f***ing hard men, eh? :rolleyes:

And then there are its very close links to the child rapists of the Catholic church, even allowing some RC bishops to throw the ball in at a match while kitted out in their religious dresses. How open minded is that towards those of other religions and none? :rolleyes:

Oh, and I haven't even mentioned how some "foreign" sports were banned from their ground (like football and rugby) while others like boxing and American football were more than welcome. Nice bit of hypocrisy there....

And then there is the ban they imposed on certain Irish people from being involved in their sports.....

Inclusive? Community minded?

You must be joking.

The GAA simply reflects everything about small minded Ireland.

No Catholic could play for Glasgow Rangers at one stage.

No Black players could play for south Africa at one point in Rugby.

It has existed in all sports at one point i would say.

Jimmy Macnulty · 02-03-2012 5:43pm

midlandsmissus wrote: »

You don't think young lads are pressured into playing GAA?

Who puts pressure on young people to play GAA?? Parents? teachers? trainers?

seanmc1980 · 02-03-2012 5:45pm

suppose i have to row in here and say a few things.

1) sport is sport, why do people (mainly GAA heads in my experience) feel they need to put down/ look down on other sports as being for pansies, not a mans sport etc... i just don't get
2) from playing the 3 sports in question 2 at high level (lenister Senior League and inter county) and rugby at underage level
I personally found soccer the most difficult set of skills to learn/perfect, controlling the ball at you feet is just more difficult than you hands. movement special awareness and positional sense also are just slight more important that the other sports.
I would put Gaelic as second (not far behind soccer) again the main difference in difficulty is you control the ball with you hands as opposed to foot and accuracy of kicking. Soccer you need to be weight your passes better than in football.
3) would come rugby, i admit i haven’t played this at any level but other than the no 10 it basically running as fast as you can and tackling, admirable skills but just not near as difficult as the other 2 sports mentioned

02-03-2012 5:46pm

Hurling is the greatest sport on the planet. I love bringing foreign friends to championship matches, it blows their minds. The multiple skills involved eclipses any other sport I can think of.

Gaelic football on the other hand is a load of bollocks. Boring, laborious, monotonous swill.

seanmc1980 · 02-03-2012 5:46pm

Jimmy Macnulty wrote: »

Who puts pressure on young people to play GAA?? Parents? teachers? trainers?

i agree, its where does pressure come from. othe rthan a parent bringing a young child to a sport i see no pressure to play GAA over soccer

Abi · 02-03-2012 5:47pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

Don't forget your duvet.

Don't forget to milk de cows.

c_man · 02-03-2012 5:47pm

seanmc1980 wrote: »

1) sport is sport, why do people (mainly GAA heads in my experience) feel they need to put down/ look down on other sports as being for pansies, not a mans sport etc... i just don't get

Not saying that doesn't happen but look at this thread, any other thread in AH about GAA or the numerous trolls who pop into the GAA forum. The sheer bile and hatred over a sport from its detractors.

Seems far more weighted in the other way tbh.

seanmc1980 · 02-03-2012 5:49pm

Chips Ahoy wrote: »

Haha no way would they win it with 2 months training

i would disagree to an extent. maaybe not a full team to win an all ireland but a lot of the skill in soccer help with gaelic. so a premier league player with far superior fitness level and speed could potentially pick up the basics of GAA in a few month a be competitive in GAA at inter county scene.

seanmc1980 · 02-03-2012 5:53pm

c_man wrote: »

Not saying that doesn't happen but look at this thread, any other thread in AH about GAA or the numerous trolls who pop into the GAA forum. The sheer bile and hatred over a sport from its detractors.

Seems far more weighted in the other way tbh.

yeah i can see a lot of bile from both ends here, but from my experence i have never been slagged off in a pub for playing Gaelic but on numerious occasions i've been for playing soccer.
maybe its a different demographic on boards but that my experence.

CucaFace · 02-03-2012 5:58pm

seanmc1980 wrote: »

i would disagree to an extent. maaybe not a full team to win an all ireland but a lot of the skill in soccer help with gaelic. so a premier league player with far superior fitness level and speed could potentially pick up the basics of GAA in a few month a be competitive in GAA at inter county scene.

They would not be used to catching and tackling and also shooting with a man trying to block them down with their hands, any skill advantages would be lost IMO and they would get well beaten by any half decent team.

Obviosly if they were young and had a few years of training then they would win as to make it as a Premier league footballer puts you in a far higher bracket of abiility of sportsman as you are really in the top % of millions of players unlike GAA and also unlike Rugby.

This has the makings of a very good new reality TV show.

All we need is about 250m pounds to cover the wages of the footballers while they train for years before they play in the championship.

mickgotsick · 02-03-2012 5:58pm

Abi wrote: »

Don't forget to milk de cows.

No cows around here, will I try milking a few cats?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-03-2012 6:04pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

No cows around here, will I try milking a few cats?

You can milk anything with nipples, there Mick. As long as it's female.

c_man · 02-03-2012 6:05pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

No cows around here, will I try milking a few cats?

Cat beats rat, as the saying goes.

Abi · 02-03-2012 6:07pm

mickgotsick wrote: »

No cows around here, will I try milking a few cats?

Well the cabbage and spuds won't wash itself down.

seanmc1980 · 02-03-2012 6:08pm

CucaFace wrote: »

They would not be used to catching and tackling and also shooting with a man trying to block them down with their hands, any skill advantages would be lost IMO and they would get well beaten by any half decent team.

Obviosly if they were young and had a few years of training then they would win as to make it as a Premier league footballer puts you in a far higher bracket of abiility of sportsman as you are really in the top % of millions of players unlike GAA and also unlike Rugby.

This has the makings of a very good new reality TV show.

All we need is about 250m pounds to cover the wages of the footballers while they train for years before they play in the championship.

i agree with you, a team couldn't,
but i do think a soccer player could play gealic at inter county with a few months training.
As you said the main area needing work on would be catching but i feel tackling (contray to popular opinion soccer is a touch tacking game) and shooting would no problem

great reality show idea alright. Naill Qiunn could host it!

mickgotsick · 02-03-2012 6:11pm

Abi wrote: »

Well the cabbage and spuds won't wash itself down.

Hmm... I'm not doing very well here, I don't have any cabbage either. I do have potatoes but they're pre-washed. I could wash them again?

Or lettuce? What about lettuce? I have some lettuce.

overshoot · 02-03-2012 6:16pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

The GAA has shown itself to be the most bigotted, petty minded sports organisation.

Its' history is littered with crap ...............

Inclusive? Community minded?

You must be joking.

The GAA simply reflects everything about small minded Ireland.

zebra seriously if your going to go back 50 years... belfast celtic, derry city(half that) on this island, i could go on but lets face it they really stick out

McTigs wrote: »

This too

I think the GAA as an organisation breeds terratorialism, xenaphobia and the worst kind of irish inward looking narrow mindedness

thought id dig this up from the first page... utter joke... ever see the rugby forum... soccer forum.. suppose thats just rivalry not terratorialism:rolleyes:

never got why people have a go at other sports, if you dont like them thats your fucking problem! dont go around trying to break out tactics, skill, fitness, technical ability as reasons that make your favourite better. all sports contain a mix of these all come to the fore in different levels per position nevermind the damn sport! you might aswell compare brian o'driscoll and mike ross, shay given and roy keane, stephen cluxton and colm cooper as gaelic games, rugby, association football... i even see F1 getting a mention (ross brawn v adrian newey v whatever driver you want)
anyway bring on the start of the LOI tonight:D (and seen as i cant make the match fans radio and the rugby on the tv:P)

JerryHandbag · 02-03-2012 6:22pm

Wouldnt claim to be a huge GAA fan as I don't go to the games and havent played it since school, I'd be more of an armchair fan and would follow the championship quite closely once it comes around. An Irish summer wouldn't be the same without it.

It would probably be my third favourite sport to watch on telly after soccer and golf, theres very little else I'd be interested in after those sports tbh.

So in summary......UP LIMERICK!

fryup · 02-03-2012 6:26pm

Jacknory wrote: »

Soccer (football to west brits)

its football, the governing body is FIFA ...International Federation of Association Football :P

Duckworth_Luas · 02-03-2012 6:29pm

fryup wrote: »

its football, the governing body is FIFA ...International Federation of Association Football :P

Association Football it is then, or soccer for short!

Gaa

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