Double Gameweek Planning

lougal88 · 26-03-2016 12:44am

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Not a big fan of Flanagan unless Moreno has a set back. Reid also has a dodgy injury record this season, I've been looking at Ogbonna as a cheaper way than Cresswell

Really just to enable the bigger hitters into my team though.

Ogbonna is certainly an option. But is he a nailed starter?

Again with Flanagan I can't afford Moreno or Lovren without downgrading elsewhere.

FHFC · 26-03-2016 12:45am

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Not a big fan of Flanagan unless Moreno has a set back. Reid also has a dodgy injury record this season, I've been looking at Ogbonna as a cheaper way than Cresswell

Flanagan is a big risk. Lovren is my preferred option at present.

Cresswell a big luxury but him bombing forward and hitting the woodwork twice i think it was against Chelsea has me itching to fit him in. Probably ahead of Bellerin even.

Is Mert nailed on when fit or will there be rotation there?

Ziegler1988 · 26-03-2016 1:07am

lougal88 wrote: »

Really just to enable the bigger hitters into my team though.

Ogbonna is certainly an option. But is he a nailed starter?

Again with Flanagan I can't afford Moreno or Lovren without downgrading elsewhere.

Shedite can give a better opinion, but it seems as though Ogbonna-Reid is the first choice pairing. Ogbonna was dropped for Collins back in Jan/Feb

FHFC wrote: »

Is Mert nailed on when fit or will there be rotation there?

Gabriel has moved ahead of Mertesacker but I wouldn't expect him to start both matches of the DGW and/or GW35. He could be worth a flier at 4.3m, Wenger doesn't tend to change his defence too much besides fixture pileups at end of season (even then if our league position is safe). Cech, Kosc, and Bellerin are 100% nailed if fit, Monreal is probably 80% to start all matches.

IsMiseMyself · 26-03-2016 1:07am

Just messing around with possible team formations. See, I want to keep Mahrez, and Alli, as well as maybe Simpson. Just because they'd be quite expensive to buy back. I also might keep Kane, though that's negotiable. He's obviously on unreal form at the minute and who's to say he wouldn't outscore a DGWer?

What I'm currently looking at is 11 DGWers, with 10 starters then for 35. (May be wrong - had a fairly quick look at fixtures.) I could get more DGWers in but I'd rather not be gambling on and then potentially stuck with players like Antonio or Flanagan, for example, for the sake of owning them.

Potential Underachiever · 26-03-2016 1:57am

Assuming that Kun and Lukaku will be nailed on picks for DGW34 that 3rd striker slot is turning into a real ball breaker!

Firstly Kane would have to be sacrificed which isn't all that appealing with his current form and high ownership (I guess it has to be noted that my current rank is 8.5k and I'm there or thereabouts in my money leagues, all very tight, so I'm not looking to just go for punty selections to make big jumps as such)

So anyway if I do decide to get rid and take in someone with a DGW I'm struggling with a solid pick.

Arsenal - Welbeck looks like he's first choice at the moment but I would not trust him to get 180mins in those games, good fixtures if only he was nailed I'd prob pick him, You can't really consider Giroud imo.

Liverpool - again nothing jumps out, Sturridge game time will be limited with their EL involvement also not helping matters, just can't go there. No one else worth considering there.

Man Utd - Rashford or Martial, Meeeeh, they're(Utd) just not scoring that many goals, Rasford prob won't get the full playing time either, Martial playing on the wing is limiting his returns too, then I believe Rooney might be back on the scene, all too messy for me.

Watford - I guess Deeney or Ighalo could be ok options, I'd maybe go Deeney as Ighalo has ran dry lately, problem is Watford are on a bad run and have other priorities.

We have Everton and City covered so that leaves the likes of West Ham, Newcastle, Palace, West Brom, I just don't see anyone at any of those teams.....

Sor far I'd have something like this and considering a wildcard this week...

Mignolet, DeGea

Bellerin, Cresswell, Delaney, x, x

Payet, Sanchez, Coutinho, Bolasie, Mahrez

Aguero, Lukaku, x

Opinions?

FHFC · 26-03-2016 8:46am

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Assuming that Kun and Lukaku will be nailed on picks for DGW34 that 3rd striker slot is turning into a real ball breaker!

Firstly Kane would have to be sacrificed which isn't all that appealing with his current form and high ownership (I guess it has to be noted that my current rank is 8.5k and I'm there or thereabouts in my money leagues, all very tight, so I'm not looking to just go for punty selections to make big jumps as such)

So anyway if I do decide to get rid and take in someone with a DGW I'm struggling with a solid pick.

Arsenal - Welbeck looks like he's first choice at the moment but I would not trust him to get 180mins in those games, good fixtures if only he was nailed I'd prob pick him, You can't really consider Giroud imo.

Liverpool - again nothing jumps out, Sturridge game time will be limited with their EL involvement also not helping matters, just can't go there. No one else worth considering there.

Man Utd - Rashford or Martial, Meeeeh, they're(Utd) just not scoring that many goals, Rasford prob won't get the full playing time either, Martial playing on the wing is limiting his returns too, then I believe Rooney might be back on the scene, all too messy for me.

Watford - I guess Deeney or Ighalo could be ok options, I'd maybe go Deeney as Ighalo has ran dry lately, problem is Watford are on a bad run and have other priorities.

We have Everton and City covered so that leaves the likes of West Ham, Newcastle, Palace, West Brom, I just don't see anyone at any of those teams.....

Sor far I'd have something like this and considering a wildcard this week...

Mignolet, DeGea

Bellerin, Cresswell, Delaney, x, x

Payet, Sanchez, Coutinho, Bolasie, Mahrez

Aguero, Lukaku, x

Opinions?

Agree with your summary on strikers. Can't see much worth selling Kane for except maybe Welbeck. With no cup interest he may not be that liable to rotation.

Thing is keeping Kane also ties up 10m odd. In the team you've listed unless you have a serious team value it will be hard to add Kane back in with anything other than a couple of 4m defs.

The only other thing with your team is only one Everton player which is certainly not gonna be the norm with 8 matches in 5 GWs. Although I'm not overly convinced by them its hard to ignore them for 33 and 34 now.

I think the Palace fixtures will convince me to add Delaney but can't see space for Bolasie given their GW34.

It's a fcukin conundrum is what it is.......

FHFC · 26-03-2016 10:41am

Latest best stab at the DGW team....

Elliot, Mignolet
Cresswell, Bellerin, Delaney, Coleman, R Martin
Sanchez, Mahrez, Firmino, Lennon, Payet
Aguero, Kane, Lukaku

No Man U but ok otherwise.

patmac · 26-03-2016 10:47am

So we are and have spent hours on this and then the casuals will come along with their Mahrez,Kane,Alli etc, not have a clue about DGW and out-score us all by 10 points per week.

dahat · 26-03-2016 11:10am

FHFC wrote: »

Latest best stab at the DGW team....

Elliot, Mignolet
Cresswell, Bellerin, Delaney, Coleman, R Martin
Sanchez, Mahrez, Firmino, Lennon, Payet
Aguero, Kane, Lukaku

No Man U but ok otherwise.

Very similar to my current WC team.

Funed mori instead of Coleman
Coutinho instead of Firmino.

FHFC · 26-03-2016 11:25am

dahat wrote: »

Very similar to my current WC team.

Funed mori instead of Coleman
Coutinho instead of Firmino.

What are you doing re United? If you're avoiding what hope for the rest of us!!

FHFC · 26-03-2016 11:26am

patmac wrote: »

So we are and have spent hours on this and then the casuals will come along with their Mahrez,Kane,Alli etc, not have a clue about DGW and out-score us all by 10 points per week.

Certainty isn't it.

Looking like among us geeks 34 will to a large extent come down to Kane vs No Kane.

km79 · 26-03-2016 11:48am

patmac wrote: »

So we are and have spent hours on this and then the casuals will come along with their Mahrez,Kane,Alli etc, not have a clue about DGW and out-score us all by 10 points per week.

I'm keeping all 3

IsMiseMyself · 26-03-2016 12:39pm

km79 wrote: »

I'm keeping all 3

Similar boat myself. Alli and Mahrez are quite expensive to get back in and there's no one really on that level (Lennon maybe) playing in a double who's worth the cheap price tag!

dahat · 26-03-2016 1:04pm

FHFC wrote: »

What are you doing re United? If you're avoiding what hope for the rest of us!!

Not totally sure, Rooney for Kane for Dwg34 is possible if he is fit.

Defence is simple, De Gea or Smalling, no one else is guaranteed to make the two games imo. I went for Mignolet purely on budget tbh.

km79 · 26-03-2016 1:28pm

dahat wrote: »

Not totally sure, Rooney for Kane for Dwg34 is possible if he is fit.

Defence is simple, De Gea or Smalling, no one else is guaranteed to make the two games imo. I went for Mignolet purely on budget tbh.

yes it's smalling or noone for me as I've Elliot playing this double ea
ready and transfers are precious
I'll have to sell aldee for smalling though and West Brom at home in 35 is as good as they come for defenders !
could always buy Danny rose in I guess
but transfers for 37 needed ..

ScummyMan · 26-03-2016 2:47pm

Had a moment of realisation this morning, the fact that I don't still have my BB means that i can TC Lukaku GW33 and then use my WC GW34, giving me a few more weeks without a thrown together team!

Gives me a few more weeks to moniter KDB, Firminio etc too, WC plans shelved for a while more so.

FHFC · 26-03-2016 2:59pm

ScummyMan wrote: »

Had a moment of realisation this morning, the fact that I don't still have my BB means that i can TC Lukaku GW33 and then use my WC GW34, giving me a few more weeks without a thrown together team!

Gives me a few more weeks to moniter KDB, Firminio etc too, WC plans shelved for a while more so.

This is actually worth looking at if considering keeping BB till GW37. Gets round the problem of wanting rid of Palace players after 33 and not too far away from 37 for risking injuries etc.

Paully D · 26-03-2016 3:18pm

I've decided I'm going to captain Alexis with the TC for DGW34. Taking an 8 point hit in total (two -4's over the next few weeks), my team will be as follows (DGW's in bold):

GW34:

ELLIOT
BELLERIN SAKHO JAGIELKA (also there for 33)
SANCHEZ (TC) FIRMINO (PAYET if not) Mahrez Alli
AGUERO LUKAKU (also there for 33) Kane

It also leaves me very well set for GW35. I'd probably bank the transfer if possible.

GW35:

Forster (avl)
Bellerin (sun) Fuchs (SWA) Dier (WBA) Sakho (NEW)
Alli (WBA) Sanchez (sun) Firmino (NEW) Mahrez (SWA)
Kane (WBA) Aguero (STO)

For GW36, I'm happy to dump Alli who plays Chelsea away for a DGW 37'er. I can go Alli -> Payet, though it would cost me my 2 FT's. Say I go for that, replacing Dier with someone like Klose or Kone which easily frees up the funds leaves me with the following:

GW36:

Elliot (CPL)
Jagielka (BOU) Bellerin (NOR) Sakho (swa)
Sanchez (NOR) Firmino (swa) Payet (wba) Mahrez (mnu)
Aguero (sou) Lukaku (BOU) Kane (che)

DGW37 then looks like the below. I'll probably take a -8 here and use BB just to get rid of it as it might come up trumps. I can go Forster -> Mignolet and will add a cheap 5th DGW'er which leaves my BB team looking like the below.

Mignolet (WAT/CHE) & Elliot (avl)
Sakho (WAT/CHE) Jagielka (lei/liv) Klose (MNU/WAT) & Fuchs (EVE) Bellerin (mci)
Firmino (WAT/CHE) Payet (SWA/MNU) Sanchez (mci) Mahrez (LEI) & Cheap DGW'er (e.g. NOR/SUN player)
Aguero (ARS) Lukaku (lei/liv) Kane (SOU)

And to round things off, GW38 (with 1 FT to use on a wildcard punt, something like the Walcott punt which CSF had great success with would really interest me here):

Mignolet (wba)
Sakho (wba) Jagielka (NOR) Bellerin (AVL)
Sanchez (AVL) Firmino (wba) Payet (sto) Mahrez (che)
Aguero (swa) Lukaku (NOR) Kane (new)

Sorry for the very long post, but getting it down on paper will help me a lot when I inevitably forget what changes I was planning to make. :pac: Of course one injury/suspension will change everything. :pac:

I'm just outside the top 100,000 at the moment and would love to finish top 50,000 so that's my aim now. If the TC goes well I don't see why it's not a realistic aim.

Any thoughts/critique would be most welcome.

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2016 4:09pm

FHFC wrote: »

This is actually worth looking at if considering keeping BB till GW37. Gets round the problem of wanting rid of Palace players after 33 and not too far away from 37 for risking injuries etc.

I still don't get the fascination with BB in a dgw unless you are going with more than 12 dgw players. What was your bench for 34 Martin Kane mahrez ? It also included a palace defender.

stephenl15 · 26-03-2016 5:05pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I still don't get the fascination with BB in a dgw unless you are going with more than 12 dgw players. What was your bench for 34 Martin Kane mahrez ? It also included a palace defender.

Can you at least get why people with a wildcard want to?

Ziegler1988 · 26-03-2016 5:35pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I still don't get the fascination with BB in a dgw unless you are going with more than 12 dgw players. What was your bench for 34 Martin Kane mahrez ? It also included a palace defender.

I'd have thought most people would be BBing with 13-15 DGWers. Mahrez is averaging 6.7 PPG this season so is roughly equivalent to a DGWer with one return. Why am I thinking of dropping him :pac:

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2016 6:02pm

stephenl15 wrote: »

Can you at least get why people with a wildcard want to?

Of course I do but I'd be going all in if I had a wildcard for the dgws with atleast 13 dgw players. Alternatively you could wildcard with a gw 36 bb in mind.

FHFC · 26-03-2016 6:17pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I still don't get the fascination with BB in a dgw unless you are going with more than 12 dgw players. What was your bench for 34 Martin Kane mahrez ? It also included a palace defender.

The point is Kane and Mahrez are not my bench. They're starting no matter what.

After that I have 13 doubles. So an extra 4x2 vs playing BB in a SGW for and extra 4x1. The only argument I can see for selling Kane is that.getting a cheaper 3rd striker could allow strongers defenders etc. But if you do that on WC you're not gonna be able to get Kane back so you're going without the PL top scorer in a team chasing hard for the title for the whole run in. When would any of us ever contemplate doing that in a normal season???

But seeing as its yourself that's banging on about it I'll have to have a closer look at this at some stage.

Ziegler1988 · 26-03-2016 6:36pm

FHFC wrote: »

The point is Kane and Mahrez are not my bench. They're starting no matter what.

After that I have 13 doubles. So an extra 4x2 vs playing BB in a SGW for and extra 4x1. The only argument I can see for selling Kane is that.getting a cheaper 3rd striker could allow strongers defenders etc. But if you do that on WC you're not gonna be able to get Kane back so you're going without the PL top scorer in a team chasing hard for the title for the whole run in. When would any of us ever contemplate doing that in a normal season???

But seeing as its yourself that's banging on about it I'll have to have a closer look at this at some stage.

I'm likely going Lukaku Aguero Martial frontline. Kane in 35 would be the big worry but I think Martial+2.5m in the DGW will make up for it

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2016 6:43pm

FHFC wrote: »

The point is Kane and Mahrez are not my bench. They're starting no matter what.

After that I have 13 doubles. So an extra 4x2 vs playing BB in a SGW for and extra 4x1. The only argument I can see for selling Kane is that.getting a cheaper 3rd striker could allow strongers defenders etc. But if you do that on WC you're not gonna be able to get Kane back so you're going without the PL top scorer in a team chasing hard for the title for the whole run in. When would any of us ever contemplate doing that in a normal season???

But seeing as its yourself that's banging on about it I'll have to have a closer look at this at some stage.

Is Martin not on your bench aswell without a double. I think there are alternative approaches but everyone has been fixated on wc 33 bb 34 tc 37 since the start of the season. So when looking at their plans they aren't considering setting themselves up for a sgw BB. As I've always stated going all in 34 for BB with 13 + dgws wins out but if going with say 11 dgws in 34 and BB or in 37 less than 11 dgws and BB there is other possible weeks to do it.

FHFC · 26-03-2016 6:59pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Is Martin not on your bench aswell without a double. I think there are alternative approaches but everyone has been fixated on wc 33 bb 34 tc 37 since the start of the season. So when looking at their plans they aren't considering setting themselves up for a sgw BB. As I've always stated going all in 34 for BB with 13 + dgws wins out but if going with say 11 dgws in 34 and BB or in 37 less than 11 dgws and BB there is other possible weeks to do it.

Martin is a mistake so. Was toying about with that team from memory and musta thought his DGW was 34. That spot will be a double player.

Iused2likebusts · 26-03-2016 7:08pm

FHFC wrote: »

Martin is a mistake so. Was toying about with that team from memory and musta thought his DGW was 34. That spot will be a double player.

You have 13 dgw players so which is definite bb. I'd transfer delaney out in 34 for a better dgwer.

manual_man · 28-03-2016 2:30pm

Just been researching Rooney's record vs Villa at Old Trafford - it's something else. Getting more and more tempted to get in Rooney(provided he's fit) for Kane for gw34, and maybe even triple captain him. Rooney certainly has motivation with his starting place for England a doubt. Do i dare.......

the groutch · 28-03-2016 3:00pm

if he is back, will Rashford be benched? or will Martial be sat in behind the front two?

manual_man · 28-03-2016 3:13pm

the groutch wrote: »

if he is back, will Rashford be benched? or will Martial be sat in behind the front two?

Interesting question. Could possibly be Martial wide left, Rashford up top with Rooney in behind

Aenaes · 28-03-2016 3:17pm

I think it has to be a mix of Rooney, Martial, Mata and Rashford, it just remains to be seen where they will be played. There's no-one really else to challenge those four for the attacking positions.

Ziegler1988 · 28-03-2016 3:28pm

Aenaes wrote: »

I think it has to be a mix of Rooney, Martial, Mata and Rashford, it just remains to be seen where they will be played. There's no-one really else to challenge those four for the attacking positions.

Lingard won't get time? RedCafe seems very mixed on who will drop out for Rooney besides agreeing that Martial is nailed

Aenaes · 28-03-2016 3:43pm

I forgot about Lingard actually.

km79 · 28-03-2016 3:48pm

I Have absolutely no idea what I'm doing anymore
So many plans

Potential Underachiever · 28-03-2016 4:21pm

which team will win this GW....Red or Green?

Current XI

Boruc (MCI)

Ivanovic(avl), Wollscheid (SWA), Morgan (SOU)

Ozil (WAT), Siggy (sto), Mahrez (SOU) Alli (liv)

Aguero (bou) Kane (liv) Vardy (SOU)

Wildcard XI

Mignolet (TOT)

Bellerin (WAT) Cresswell (CPA) TBD (tbd)

Sanchez (WAT) Coutinho (TOT) Payet (CPA) Mahrez (SOU)

Aguero (bou) Lukaku (Mnu) Welbeck (WAT)

extra gravy · 28-03-2016 4:25pm

manual_man wrote: »

Just been researching Rooney's record vs Villa at Old Trafford - it's something else. Getting more and more tempted to get in Rooney(provided he's fit) for Kane for gw34, and maybe even triple captain him. Rooney certainly has motivation with his starting place for England a doubt. Do i dare.......

What would your plan be for GW35 assuming you have Lukaku too...transfer one of them out for a striker that has a game or bench both and go 4-5-1? That's the only thing stopping me going for Martial at the moment.

Ziegler1988 · 28-03-2016 4:39pm

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

which team will win this GW....Red or Green?

Captain in both teams? I'm going Sanchez(c) so am probably biased but would Green due to taking advantage of Arsenal and West Ham's fixtures while only really losing Alli and Vardy for medium fixtures

Potential Underachiever · 28-03-2016 4:44pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Captain in both teams? I'm going Sanchez(c) so am probably biased but would Green due to taking advantage of Arsenal and West Ham's fixtures while only really losing Alli and Vardy for medium fixtures

I honestly don't know yet, probably stick with Aguero in the first one, not sure on the 2nd.

I am just pondering now about where the likes of Alexis and Sergio have been globe trotting to on this international break and wondering if that could throw a spanner in the works. My head is cabbaged!

Ziegler1988 · 28-03-2016 4:52pm

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I honestly don't know yet, probably stick with Aguero in the first one, not sure on the 2nd.

I am just pondering now about where the likes of Alexis and Sergio have been globe trotting to on this international break and wondering if that could throw a spanner in the works. My head is cabbaged!

Sanchez has started and played at least 75 mins after every trip to South America, we also can't afford to rest him

Potential Underachiever · 28-03-2016 4:54pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Sanchez has started and played at least 75 mins after every trip to South America, we also can't afford to rest him

You're an Arsenal fan then, would you concur that Welbeck should be nailed for this match at the very least?

manual_man · 28-03-2016 4:56pm

Aenaes wrote: »

I think it has to be a mix of Rooney, Martial, Mata and Rashford, it just remains to be seen where they will be played. There's no-one really else to challenge those four for the attacking positions.

Lingard is in favour. Depay another option but not really in favour

km79 · 28-03-2016 4:58pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Sanchez has started and played at least 75 mins after every trip to South America, we also can't afford to rest him

do you also have ozil ?
getting one in and strongly favouring Sanchez due to possible TC in gw 34
just can't see myself doing that with ozil
but he is so highly owned and I sold Sanchez 3 weeks ago after all the blanks

manual_man · 28-03-2016 5:03pm

extra gravy wrote: »

What would your plan be for GW35 assuming you have Lukaku too...transfer one of them out for a striker that has a game or bench both and go 4-5-1? That's the only thing stopping me going for Martial at the moment.

Yeah I'd most likely be benching both and going 5-4-1 for gw35. Rooney might be very tempting, but ditching an in-form Kane I might find hard to do, especially as there would be a -4 involved as well as gw35 ramifications... Be spectacular if it came off though

Ziegler1988 · 28-03-2016 5:03pm

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

You're an Arsenal fan then, would you concur that Welbeck should be nailed for this match at the very least?

I'd say so, but you can never be 100% sure with Wenger.

km79 wrote: »

do you also have ozil ?
getting one in and strongly favouring Sanchez due to possible TC in gw 34
just can't see myself doing that with ozil
but he is so highly owned and I sold Sanchez 3 weeks ago after all the blanks

No, I'm planning on double Arsenal defence and Sanchez. Probably a mistake given how consistent Ozil is, but I'm still chasing MLs and not defending. I'm also too stubborn to swap Sanchez for Ozil after holding for so long

km79 · 28-03-2016 5:06pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I'd say so, but you can never be 100% sure with Wenger.

No, I'm planning on double Arsenal defence and Sanchez. Probably a mistake given how consistent Ozil is, but I'm still chasing MLs and not defending. I'm also too stubborn to swap Sanchez for Ozil after holding for so long

yes I'm almost certain to go for him too I think
have only reluctantly had ozil once this season when he went thru his barren spell arpjnd Xmas !
swapped him out for Sanchez for his barren spell

I still think there is a burst of points coming from Sanchez soon

dahat · 28-03-2016 5:06pm

Any word on Cech? Is he back this Gameweek?

FHFC · 28-03-2016 8:30pm

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I'd say so, but you can never be 100% sure with Wenger.

No, I'm planning on double Arsenal defence and Sanchez. Probably a mistake given how consistent Ozil is, but I'm still chasing MLs and not defending. I'm also too stubborn to swap Sanchez for Ozil after holding for so long

How would you rate Iwobi's gametime?

keano_afc · 28-03-2016 8:40pm

A player like Iwobi is exactly what we need at the moment. Raw, in form, not afraid to have a go.

Which is why he'll probable be on the bench at the weekend.

FHFC · 28-03-2016 8:57pm

keano_afc wrote: »

A player like Iwobi is exactly what we need at the moment. Raw, in form, not afraid to have a go.

Which is why he'll probable be on the bench at the weekend.

If I thought he'd get 140mins in 34 I'd be all over it.

Iused2likebusts · 28-03-2016 9:01pm

FHFC wrote: »

If I thought he'd get 140mins in 34 I'd be all over it.

You wildcarding this week now.

Double Gameweek Planning

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