M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

RAFA B · 08-07-2015 12:20pm

I take it won't actually open on Monday until lunchtime or after?

jd · 08-07-2015 1:07pm

jd wrote: »

I haven't been back home for a while to look at the works, but if R772 is not continuous at Northern end it gets a bit messy for an alternative route. Heading south on R772 at Rathnew would you head in towards Wicklow on the R750, then turn back towards Beehive on the R751? That would be 3 different regional roads on a (presumably sign posted) alternative route .

Thinking about this, the bit I quoted in post above was from when the scheme wasn't going to be motorway. So maybe what will happen is those bits of the R750 and R751 will be redesignated as R772.
Probably the simplest thing to do

Looking at this sign below it looks like portions of road I mentioned above will be renumbered
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loyatemu · 08-07-2015 3:00pm

illustrates that J17 now becomes largely pointless - Dublin->Wicklow traffic will use J16 and Wexford->Wicklow will use the new J18; but that's the price of developing motorways in a piecemeal fashion.

TechnoFreek · 08-07-2015 6:40pm

prunudo · 08-07-2015 8:01pm

jvan wrote: »

"The new dual carriageway will be constructed over a period of 28 months with an expected completion date of August 2015."

I drove south as far as Lil Doyle's on Saturday, I'm still amazed by the lack of earthworks, there's no real shape that I can make out.
To have it open in 16 months seems like a massive task.

Just shows what I know :pac:

I have to say the speed of progress especially over the last 8 months has been outstanding. Fair play to all involved with the construction because they have certainly pulled out all the stops.
Looking forward to finally driving the new road, looks like a great stretch of road.

TechnoFreek · 08-07-2015 8:27pm

From what I could observe this evening, at the northern tie in the final layer of tarmac was going down.

At the arklow end road markings were being applied. Also they were putting a concrete median between the northern side and the rugby club where the new motorway and road run close to each other.

RAFA B · 09-07-2015 2:59pm

I am really looking forward to the evenings and getting home earlier!!!!

Sheldons Brain · 09-07-2015 9:44pm

jd wrote:

Looking at this sign below it looks like portions of road I mentioned above will be renumbered

Presumably any rerouted R772 could use the new road on the East of Wicklow rather than running all the way into town.

TechnoFreek · 10-07-2015 9:38am

Arklow tie in looking very complete this morning bar some rumble around the new concrete median between the motorway and rugby club road.

fred funk }{ · 10-07-2015 11:39am

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Arklow tie in looking very complete this morning bar some rumble around the new concrete median between the motorway and rugby club road.

Royal? :pac:

TechnoFreek · 10-07-2015 12:23pm

There will be a royal rumble on Monday afternoon if this motorway doesn't open!

hairyslug · 10-07-2015 2:56pm

The northern tie in is looking just about finished, cats eyes were being put down and they were cleaning up.

I would have thought though that there would have been some sort of barrier at the slip.

The stage is up just after the Beehive for the opening

Reuben1210 · 10-07-2015 3:00pm

Anyone wanna take any photos before she opens?

WicklowTiger · 10-07-2015 4:17pm

Have heard the official opening is 2.30pm on Monday...

ITDept · 10-07-2015 7:39pm

Hopefully my last slow crawl home on a Friday

Nearly 2 hours tonight. I won't miss it, that's for sure... Pours a nice glass of vino.

Subpopulus · 10-07-2015 7:52pm

When last did we open a new stretch of Motorway? Was it Portlaoise - Urlingford? Circa 2010?

fred funk }{ · 10-07-2015 7:54pm

I'll be waiting at the cones....

marmurr1916 · 10-07-2015 8:33pm

Subpopulus wrote: »

When last did we open a new stretch of Motorway? Was it Portlaoise - Urlingford? Circa 2010?

Wasn't it that stretch of the M7 that goes through the bog in Co. Tipp?

ItHurtsWhenIP · 10-07-2015 8:40pm

marmurr1916 wrote: »

Wasn't it that stretch of the M7 that goes through the bog in Co. Tipp?

I think so.

Schadenfreudia · 10-07-2015 9:57pm

marmurr1916 wrote: »

Wasn't it that stretch of the M7 that goes through the bog in Co. Tipp?

It was the M18 Ennis-Gort.

TechnoFreek · 12-07-2015 9:07pm

Official Opening at 3 tomorrow. Expected to open to traffic at 5. I normally hit the bee hive at 5.30 so hopefully it's open for then!

http://www.wicklownews.net/2015/07/m11-to-open-to-traffic-on-monday-afternoon/

Chris_5339762 · 12-07-2015 9:14pm

Someone completed it a day early on OSM

They couldn't wait!

mackerski · 12-07-2015 9:17pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Someone completed it a day early on OSM They couldn't wait!

The commit message explains why...

BeepBeep67 · 12-07-2015 9:22pm

loyatemu wrote: »

illustrates that J17 now becomes largely pointless - Dublin->Wicklow traffic will use J16 and Wexford->Wicklow will use the new J18; but that's the price of developing motorways in a piecemeal fashion.

J17 is very handy, although it's not used for Wicklow / Rathnew, more for access to Ashtown Lane and Blackhill Road both which had access to the old N11.
It's a handy rat run for me also when I know the traffic will be heavy heading into Wicklow Town.

marno21 · 12-07-2015 9:22pm

mackerski wrote: »

The commit message explains why...

Now someone has the fun job that iis piecing together the alternative route

mackerski · 12-07-2015 9:26pm

marno21 wrote: »

Now someone has the fun job that iis piecing together the alternative route

I've already done that for what seems like the only plausible R772 routing between J18 and Arklow. The apparent rerouting via Wicklow of the rest of it along with that section being renumbered L1100 I could do with a bit of help with - who can witness (georeferenced photos would be perfect) the changes?

loyatemu · 12-07-2015 9:31pm

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

J17 is very handy, although it's not used for Wicklow / Rathnew, more for access to Ashtown Lane and Blackhill Road both which had access to the old N11.
It's a handy rat run for me also when I know the traffic will be heavy heading into Wicklow Town.

Handy for you, ok - I suspect there will be very little traffic using it overall after tomorrow.

BeepBeep67 · 12-07-2015 9:46pm

loyatemu wrote: »

Handy for you, ok - I suspect there will be very little traffic using it overall after tomorrow.

I can't see what changes tomorrow, the same people who use it today will use it tomorrow.

Schadenfreudia · 12-07-2015 11:44pm

So, will it be open first thing tomorrow or will the road be blocked till afternoon to facilitate some pathetic politician's photo op? :mad:

marno21 · 12-07-2015 11:45pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

So, will it be open first thing tomorrow or will the road be blocked till afternoon to facilitate some pathetic politician's photo op? :mad:

5pm tomorrow has been mooted. Surely no point in opening it after rush hour southbound?

Schadenfreudia · 12-07-2015 11:46pm

marno21 wrote: »

5pm tomorrow has been mooted. Surely no point in opening it after rush hour southbound?

And why bother about northbound commuters tomorrow morning, when set against a photo-op for some non-entity?

If they gave a sh1t about the customer/taxpayer they'd have opened it today.

marno21 · 12-07-2015 11:48pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

And why bother about northbound commuters tomorrow morning, when set against a photo-op for some non-entity?

Possibly some small bits of work to be done tomorrow, else they don't want people trying out a new road layout shortly after falling out of the bed on a Monday morning.

Plus it gives people one final opportunity to enjoy the Ballinameesda bends knowing that they'll be coming home on a motorway.

Schadenfreudia · 12-07-2015 11:49pm

marno21 wrote: »

it gives people one final opportunity to enjoy the Ballinameesda bends knowing that they'll be coming home on a motorway.

Nope. You can still enjoy them as long as you want!

marno21 · 12-07-2015 11:51pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Nope. You can still enjoy them as long as you want!

I've never driven them, and thankfully if I ever find myself myself on the M11 I can whizz from Arklow to Rathnew in 8 minutes

vickers209 · 13-07-2015 12:23am

Sky cam ireland have mobiles nice views of new road from above on facebook.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=575997309142272

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badgerbroc11 · 13-07-2015 8:34am

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

So, will it be open first thing tomorrow or will the road be blocked till afternoon to facilitate some pathetic politician's photo op? :mad:

Traffic very slow this morning. Half hour longer to get to work. It will be great to have the road opened. Hopefully Glen of the Downs won't become too much of a bottle neck

vienne86 · 13-07-2015 8:36am

AA Roadwatch just announced it is expected to be open to us plebs at 7 p.m.. I'm driving up from Rosslare today, and wondering how late I'll have to leave it to get my spin on this new stretch.

TechnoFreek · 13-07-2015 9:18am

badgerbroc11 wrote: »

Traffic very slow this morning. Half hour longer to get to work. It will be great to have the road opened. Hopefully Glen of the Downs won't become too much of a bottle neck

One final f u from the old road. I was hoping to be on the new road this evening but it could be 7pm before it opens according to as roadwatch.

I see them setting up the gig rig on the motorway close to the beehive for the opening this afternoon.

mydiscworld · 13-07-2015 9:33am

Am I correct in saying once this section and the Enniscorthy bypass are completed, there will be motorway/dual carriageway all the way from Dublin to just beyond Enniscorthy, with only the final stretch to Rosslare remaining to be done?

secman · 13-07-2015 9:36am

mydiscworld wrote: »

Am I correct in saying once this section and the Enniscorthy bypass are completed, there will be motorway/dual carriageway all the way from Dublin to just beyond Enniscorthy, with only the final stretch to Rosslare remaining to be done?

From Belfast actually. .. plan is from Belfast to Rosslare for some obscure reason.......

L1011 · 13-07-2015 10:04am

secman wrote: »

From Belfast actually. .. plan is from Belfast to Rosslare for some obscure reason.......

Larne to Rosslare, due to it being the E01 Euroroute.

NI finished their section in May.

mct1 · 13-07-2015 10:35am

First post on this thread was 10 years 5 months ago! Last Tuesday evening's drive down from the airport was desperate so I can't wait to drive up and back on Wednesday - postponed from today as I guessed they'd pull a stunt like that. I do the trip once a week so I really feel for anyone that's had to cope with this every day.

Was talking about the Rosslare bit yesterday with someone supposedly in the know - doubts it will be done at all. Just a bit of road improvement needed there really but unfortunately it seems the houses near the chosen route are blighted.

FURET · 13-07-2015 10:56am

First post in this thread was made 10 years ago. It's been quite a journey. Thanks for all the updates and photos along the way

Reuben1210 · 13-07-2015 10:56am

mct1 wrote: »

First post on this thread was 10 years 5 months ago! Last Tuesday evening's drive down from the airport was desperate so I can't wait to drive up and back on Wednesday - postponed from today as I guessed they'd pull a stunt like that. I do the trip once a week so I really feel for anyone that's had to cope with this every day.

Was talking about the Rosslare bit yesterday with someone supposedly in the know - doubts it will be done at all. Just a bit of road improvement needed there really but unfortunately it seems the houses near the chosen route are blighted.

Well the traffic volume at present probably wouldn't justify it, and what do you mean blighted?

L1011 · 13-07-2015 11:08am

Reuben1210 wrote: »

Well the traffic volume at present probably wouldn't justify it, and what do you mean blighted?

Its pretty much impossible to sell a house with a threat of a CPO over it; but until the threat is realised as an actual CPO the council / NRA are unwilling to buy it either. In the past, anecdotally, they (council/NRA/state agency as appropriate) occasionally would buy houses that were up for sale that were likely to be CPOed but the cash isn't there until a spend is committed now.

loyatemu · 13-07-2015 11:10am

mct1 wrote: »

Was talking about the Rosslare bit yesterday with someone supposedly in the know - doubts it will be done at all. Just a bit of road improvement needed there really but unfortunately it seems the houses near the chosen route are blighted.

there are plans for the next bit after Enniscorthy (not sure if it goes all the way to Rosslare, possibly just as far as the existing Wexford bypass) - route options were published a few years ago; it's likely to be 2+2 rather than motorway.

PoolDude · 13-07-2015 11:14am

mct1 wrote: »

First post on this thread was 10 years 5 months ago! Last Tuesday evening's drive down from the airport was desperate so I can't wait to drive up and back on Wednesday - postponed from today as I guessed they'd pull a stunt like that. I do the trip once a week so I really feel for anyone that's had to cope with this every day.

Was talking about the Rosslare bit yesterday with someone supposedly in the know - doubts it will be done at all. Just a bit of road improvement needed there really but unfortunately it seems the houses near the chosen route are blighted.

I started that one along with a few other threads on other parts of the N11. I have to say I'm happy with how it has developed, if not the pace of change. I am anxious for the Enniscorthy bypass to start, I always feel better once they start knowing a finish is in sight. I'm hoping for more news on contract signing bundled into today's releases - or an update at a minimum. I travel from south Wexford to Dublin so this helps. I'd like the stretch to Rosslare completed but not sure it necessary. If its done I'd see it as a DC from Rosslare to both the end of the Enniscorthy ands New Ross bypasses ideally. I'd settle for the Enniscorthy bypass going to the Wexford side of Oilgate rather than the Enniscorthy side. If there is no real plan to extend to Rosslare is does not make sense to end motorway from Larne to Enniscorthy just outside the village of oilgate and create anew bottleneck.

Looking forward to my next drive down the N11 :-)

PoolDude · 13-07-2015 11:18am

loyatemu wrote: »

there are plans for the next bit after Enniscorthy (not sure if it goes all the way to Rosslare, possibly just as far as the existing Wexford bypass) - route options were published a few years ago; it's likely to be 2+2 rather than motorway.

Those plans were to Rosslare. This definitely won't be discussed before the election for political reasons - there is a lot of opposition to it while in the broader scheme of things the Wexford politicians feel its the right thing for local and national development.

vicwatson · 13-07-2015 11:19am

A preferred route has already been published for Oilgate - Rosslare route by Wex Co Co

http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/N11N25OilgateRosslareHarbourProject/DetailedMapsOfOilgatetoRosslare/

http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/motorway-route-unveiled-27725595.html

and preferred route

www../wex/Departments/Roads/.../Thefile,25550,en.pdf

loyatemu · 13-07-2015 11:37am

vicwatson wrote: »

A preferred route has already been published for Oilgate - Rosslare route by Wex Co Co

so it's largely just an upgrade of the existing road. Maybe just build a bypass of Oilgate in the short-term, can't imagine the overall scheme being high up the list of NRA priorities.

M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

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