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    #482
    notharrypotter
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    There is also a private plane that brings lads to the rigs every week, if you ever have to go over in a hurry you might get a seat. It probably goes to Aberdeen.

    I think this operates from Donegal.


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    #483
    highlydebased
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    Also on the Rome flight- I was on a Ryanair flight yesterday and there was a full page ad for new routes from Shannon in the magazine- lo and behold one of them was Rome...! Could well be an error of course.


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    #484
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    notharrypotter wrote: »
    I think this operates from Donegal.

    The crew have been staying in the local hotel, definitely flying from Knock. Maybe going on to Donegal from there. They found it was cheaper to fly them all over instead of paying there travel expenses.


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    #485
    Brennans Row
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    Bristol airport is not on heightened security alert (Bristol Post)

    Bristol airport will not be affected by tougher security measures brought in today.

    Higher security procedures are being rolled out in airports across the UK, in response to fears of attacks from Islamist extremists.

    The United States alerted Britain to danger, after reports of two Islamic extremist groups working together to attack a plane in its way to America.

    The Washington Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson asked for increased security checks in airports with flights directly to the US, meaning a potential for longer delays at those airports. But Bristol airport runs no direct flights to the country.

    A spokesman for the airport said: "These measures are specific to airports with direct flights to the US.

    "We do not currently have any direct US flights, so normal procedures apply."

    Passengers flying from Bristol may be affected later in their journey.

    Aer Lingus flights to Boston Logan International stop in Ireland - either Dublin or Shannon - and there are likely to be more security checks at the transfer.



    That's interesting, do transfer passengers go through security checks again at Shannon?

    Anyway, the transfer situation with the Bristol flight is academic as the Aer Lingus Boston / New York flights depart before it arrives in Shannon.

    A missed opportunity here to grow numbers from Bristol on the Transatlantic routes.


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    #486
    Jamie2k9
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Bristol airport is not on heightened security alert (Bristol Post)

    Bristol airport will not be affected by tougher security measures brought in today.

    Higher security procedures are being rolled out in airports across the UK, in response to fears of attacks from Islamist extremists.

    The United States alerted Britain to danger, after reports of two Islamic extremist groups working together to attack a plane in its way to America.

    The Washington Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson asked for increased security checks in airports with flights directly to the US, meaning a potential for longer delays at those airports. But Bristol airport runs no direct flights to the country.

    A spokesman for the airport said: "These measures are specific to airports with direct flights to the US.

    "We do not currently have any direct US flights, so normal procedures apply."

    Passengers flying from Bristol may be affected later in their journey.

    Aer Lingus flights to Boston Logan International stop in Ireland - either Dublin or Shannon - and there are likely to be more security checks at the transfer.



    That's interesting, do transfer passengers go through security checks again at Shannon?

    Anyway, the transfer situation with the Bristol flight is academic as the Aer Lingus Boston / New York flights depart before it arrives in Shannon.

    A missed opportunity here to grow numbers from Bristol on the Transatlantic routes.

    Yes, there is a second security for USPC passengers, otherwise no.


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    #487
    notharrypotter
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    The crew have been staying in the local hotel, definitely flying from Knock.

    What day do they fly from Knock?


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    #488
    JCX BXC
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    The delays on flights to and from the us have been extream in the past few days.

    UA25 Newark to Shannon and UA24 Shannon to Newark have been canceled today. Yesterday it was delayed around 2 hours.

    The delta flight is delayed today again after yesterdays delay.


    How long is this "tightened security" going to last?.


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    #489
    Jamie2k9
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The delays on flights to and from the us have been extream in the past few days.

    UA25 Newark to Shannon and UA24 Shannon to Newark have been canceled today. Yesterday it was delayed around 2 hours.

    The delta flight is delayed today again after yesterdays delay.


    How long is this "tightened security" going to last?.

    Not security but weather in the US over the last 24h.


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    #490
    JCX BXC
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Not security but weather in the US over the last 24h.

    So there is bad weather all the way from Philadelphia to Chicago?

    Yesterday the Philedelphia flight had a delay and today the Chicago flight had one.


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    #491
    irishbloke77
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    So there is bad weather all the way from Philadelphia to Chicago?

    Yesterday the Philedelphia flight had a delay and today the Chicago flight had one.

    Newark is a big hub for United, that plane may have been delayed in the northeast prior to going to chicago and then on to shannon.
    Same for phili I reckon, but they use la guardia a lot instead. Also, ATC in the northeast would have been up the walls with the delays, holding etc, so probably large slots, even for overflying aircraft


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    #492
    Jamie2k9
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    So there is bad weather all the way from Philadelphia to Chicago?

    Yesterday the Philedelphia flight had a delay and today the Chicago flight had one.

    Hurricane Arthur made land in the US overnight and yesterday evening and making its way up the east cost, I believe there was a power failure in Newark last night to.

    Its peak summer, if you think the few delays at SNN are bad over the last 2 weeks there has being flights to the US out of DUB which were delayed for over 12 hours!


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    #493
    Brennans Row
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    A United Airlines flight diverted to Shannon yesterday on route from Munich to Newark.

    Reason unknown.


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    #494
    crazyguy01
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    Sick passenger on that flight!


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    #495
    Neworder79
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    See Kemmy Business School at University of Limerick.

    The "report" was commissioned by the Shannon Airport Marketing Consultative Comittee, which the Irish Times article failed to disclose.

    http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2014/misinformation-on-knock-a/index.xml


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    #496
    Brennans Row
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    Neworder79 wrote: »
    The "report" was commissioned by the Shannon Airport Marketing Consultative Comittee, which the Irish Times article failed to disclose.

    http://www.finegael.ie/latest-news/2014/misinformation-on-knock-a/index.xml
    Actually the Irish Times did disclose the commissioner for this paper, see post 463.
    In a paper prepared for the Shannon Airport Marketing Consultative Committee, Mr Deegan says . . . .


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    #497
    JCX BXC
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    I was just looking at flight radar and UA25 EWR to SNN and it was 2 hours delayed. According to flightradar It was doing a speed of 549knots or 1017 km/h. They must be trying to make up the delay. Is that a bit too fast for a 757 though?


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    #498
    Henry Ford III
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I was just looking at flight radar and UA25 EWR to SNN and it was 2 hours delayed. According to flightradar It was doing a speed of 549knots or 1017 km/h. They must be trying to make up the delay. Is that a bit too fast for a 757 though?

    That's pretty rapid if correct. 631mph.


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    #499
    highlydebased
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    For speed it probably has a nice tidy tailwind component


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    #500
    Brennans Row
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    According to newly-filed accounts from Shannon Airport Authority, the company generated revenues of €39.1m last year.

    Staff costs for 263 people at Shannon Airport in 2013 came to €17.17m.

    The figures show that the airport’s earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation totalled €3.4m.

    Pre-tax profit €149,000

    Shannon records pre-tax profit (Irish Examiner)

    €17 million on Shannon Airport pay (Clare Champion)


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    #501
    Masala
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    €65,000 average per annum per employee.... nice work if you can get it!!

    Maybe yer man from the National Centre for Tourism Policy (??) could run those figures through his computer and gives us a media spin on just how good value for money this is !!

    And maybe a comment on how a €39m turnover can only generate return of €149k.....


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    #502
    highlydebased
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    CSO numbers for April finally available and here are the highlights from the new routes from their first month in operation

    Faro 4335
    Malaga 4220
    Beauvais 2969
    Krakow 2833
    Memmingen 2764
    Warsaw Modlin 2443
    Berlin 2138
    Nice 1916
    Bristol 1693
    Poitiers 1445


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    #503
    Brennans Row
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    Masala wrote: »
    €65,000 average per annum per employee.... nice work if you can get it!!

    Your average represents the total staff costs to the company and not the average salary earned by the employee.

    Wages and salaries came to €14,312,000 / 263 = €54,418 average per annum per employee.

    Since the airport is opened 24/7/365 you would probably have to pencil in shift allowances, overtime as well.

    Still though as you say . . . . nice work if you can get it!.
    Masala wrote: »
    Maybe yer man from the National Centre for Tourism Policy (??) could run those figures through his computer and gives us a media spin on just how good value for money this is !!

    And maybe a comment on how a €39m turnover can only generate return of €149k.....

    It would be interesting to see the productivity levels measured in some form though the ratio to revenue seems good.

    Then again, I’m not a cost accountant or auditor.


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    #504
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Your average represents the total staff costs to the company and not the average salary earned by the employee.

    Wages and salaries came to €14,312,000 / 263 = €54,418 average per annum per employee.

    Since the airport is opened 24/7/365 you would probably have to pencil in shift allowances, overtime as well.

    Still though as you say . . . . nice work if you can get it!.



    It would be interesting to see the productivity levels measured in some form though the ratio to revenue seems good.

    Then again, I’m not a cost accountant or auditor.

    The staff at shannon can afford a few breaks away with that kind of wage.


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    #505
    Brennans Row
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    10474678_666104256812401_1314096193390445713_n.jpg
    Runway Night Run (Shannon Airport)

    Bank of Ireland Runway Run at Shannon Airport raises over €15,000 for Samaritans.

    Running shoes instead of aircrafts pounded the Shannon Airport runway for a short period at the weekend as 1,200 people took part in the first ever runway run at an Irish airport.

    (for more see link).
    To be honest I did not know what to expect from this charity event last weekend.

    A novel idea that was financially sponsored by the BOI, plus a team of 170 volunteers who gave their time.

    A win, win for everyone involved and the extensive free PR that Shannon received on national, regional, aviation media. :cool:


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    #506
    JCX BXC
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    Shannon passenger Numbers are up 15%

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/shannon-airport-sees-passenger-numbers-rise-in-first-six-months-of-2014-635955.html

    http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/0710/629840-shannon/


    And here is news on Shannon as a "budget" transatlantic hub.
    http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/07/10/shannon-could-be-budget-transatlantic-hub/


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    #507
    Brennans Row
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    Shannon Airport air traffic up +24% for June (IAA).

    There is a flood of information today!

    314102.jpg


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    #508
    Mr. G
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
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    To be honest I did not know what to expect from this charity event last weekend.

    A novel idea that was financially sponsored by the BOI, plus a team of 170 volunteers who gave their time.

    A win, win for everyone involved and the extensive free PR that Shannon received on national, regional, aviation media. :cool:

    I got an email about that.

    Does anyone know how did they manage security? The runway is the secure side so surely they didn't have everyone go through security?

    Good to see their passenger figures are up.


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    #509
    Clareman
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    I got an email about that.

    Does anyone know how did they manage security? The runway is the secure side so surely they didn't have everyone go through security?

    Good to see their passenger figures are up.

    AFAIK security is mainly for planes, not the facilities so it was up for the airport to decide how to manage security for the facilities, bit like you do need to take your shoes off to get through the fence but if you're caught you're trespassing. I remember having a conversation about that with an Airport Police man once


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    #510
    Mr. G
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    Clareman wrote: »
    AFAIK security is mainly for planes, not the facilities so it was up for the airport to decide how to manage security for the facilities, bit like you do need to take your shoes off to get through the fence but if you're caught you're trespassing. I remember having a conversation about that with an Airport Police man once

    Interesting all the same.

    Ok, so theoretically someone could have planted a bomb on the secure side of the airport on the night of the run (assuming there was no security checks) and then the next day collect it on route to a plane as a suicidal passenger?

    Where it could be hidden I don't know but it is possible.

    In China, they search people before they actually go into the airport.

    * I'm not a terrorist or anything by the way.


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    #511
    Cookiemunster
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    Interesting all the same.

    Ok, so theoretically someone could have planted a bomb on the secure side of the airport on the night of the run (assuming there was no security checks) and then the next day collect it on route to a plane as a suicidal passenger?

    Where it could be hidden I don't know but it is possible.

    In China, they search people before they actually go into the airport.

    * I'm not a terrorist or anything by the way.

    They hardly sent everyone upstairs through the security checkpoint to get to the apron did they? That's the only way someone could leave something that cound be picked up by a departing passenger the next day.


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