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Upcoming Irish property tax to cost 'on average' €1000 per house.(can you afford it?)

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    #2822
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    Ali, baby, How many times do I have to tell you.

    I am a 'charge' cheat, get it?, a 'charge' cheat.

    At this present moment in time, as well you know, we don't have a property tax in this country.

    We have a 'household charge' or a registration fee by another name.

    At least now everyone can see where your coming from, it's good that that's out in the open.

    The HHC is a tax. I think that fact has been out in the open from day one. Ipso facto - you're a tax cheat.


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    #2823
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    Northclare wrote: »
    That's only spin,our neighbors pay less for food,energy,etc

    Spin away my friend

    Our neighbours also make renters, be they LA or private pay for their services.

    Our neighbours also receive a hell of a lot more for their money than one would get here.


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    #2824
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I just thought for a little while in my mental state that the Govt might be trying to convince us to pay by using these paid up party members. Then it dawned on me that they are paying advisers way over the agreed rate to do the same. Mental indeed.

    You're right there. Mental it is.


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    #2825
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    Our neighbours also make renters, be they LA or private pay for their services.

    Our neighbours also receive a hell of a lot more for their money than one would get here.

    6 million on council benefit remember, and charges way above what's projected for property tax here.


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    #2826
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    alastair wrote: »
    Northclare wrote: »
    That's only spin,our neighbors pay less for food,energy,etc

    Spin away my friend

    No spin. Just the facts. It's no accident that every other nation has figured out that property taxation is an essential component of a country's sustainable revenue stream.

    Were Irish we like to be different,were entitled to that are we not ?

    I'll tell you what you make out a mathematical graph or template which can figure out how one who breaks even and has a family to look after,can pay for something when they haven't the money....

    YOU CANT


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    #2827
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    The HHC is a tax. I think that fact has been out in the open from day one. Ipso facto - you're a tax cheat.

    You can call me a 'tax cheat' all you like, it's like water off a ducks back.

    Your wrong though.

    I seem to remember that you were a tax cheat in the UK though.

    Your vested interests on the other hand have been exposed.

    You have been exposed.


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    #2828
    golden lane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    i live in the uk......i have never paid a property tax....


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    #2829
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Northclare wrote: »
    Were Irish we like to be different,were entitled to that are we not ?

    Nothing wrong with being different, as long as you're not cutting off your nose to spite your face. And we've historically had property taxation here for longer than we haven't, so it's a proud Irish tradition too, if that keeps you happier.


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    #2830
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    You can call me a 'tax cheat' all you like, it's like water off a ducks back.

    Your wrong though.

    I seem to remember that you were a tax cheat in the UK though.

    Your vested interests on the other hand have been exposed.

    You have been exposed.

    Yep - I was a poll tax (that was a 'charge' too!) avoider. It still leaves you as an active and current tax cheat though - and one in a sad state of denial.

    'Vested interests'. Knock yourself out. :D


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    #2831
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Northclare wrote: »
    Were Irish we like to be different,were entitled to that are we not ?

    I'll tell you what you make out a mathematical graph or template which can figure out how one who breaks even and has a family to look after,can pay for something when they haven't the money....

    YOU CANT

    They won't try either. They'll circle the wagons again and tell you that every country has a Property Tax of some sort BUT they won't explain that those countries actually get services for theirs. It boils down to the fact that Enda has to look good in Europe and their rich friends have to be bailed out. Party politics. Fianna Fail Mk2.


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    #2832
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    tayto lover wrote: »
    They won't try either. They'll circle the wagons again and tell you that every country has a Property Tax of some sort BUT they won't explain that those countries actually get services for theirs. It boils down to the fact that Enda has to look good in Europe and their rich friends have to be bailed out. Party politics. Fianna Fail Mk2.

    You get local services too. But you've been told that multiple times without it seeming to register. As does the minimal impact the bank bailout makes on our actual tax expenditure.


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    #2833
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    I need a life saving operation, due to health cuts half of them are summarily suspended. I've been told six to 12 months waiting list if I leave hospital [not my choice to stay or go anyway] yet my cardiologist thought I was so sick be admitted me immediately and I had a bed in three minutes flat.

    So I don't expect to be back to pay any Taxes.


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    #2834
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    Yep - I was a poll tax (that was a 'charge' too!) avoider. It still leaves you as an active and current tax cheat though - and one in a sad state of denial.

    'Vested interests'. Knock yourself out. :D

    I'm not in denial at all, see my previous posts.

    I'll leave it that so, I know what you are and your reasons for wanting more taxes and you know that I am a 'charge' evader.
    (you can change 'charge' to 'tax' there if it makes you feel better)

    Ciao.


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    #2835
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    alastair wrote: »
    Northclare wrote: »
    Were Irish we like to be different,were entitled to that are we not ?

    Nothing wrong with being different, as long as you're not cutting off your nose to spite your face. And we've historically had property taxation here for longer than we haven't, so it's a proud Irish tradition too, if that keeps you happier.

    WHERE'S YOUR GRAPH AND TEMPLATE
    TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT


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    #2836
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    gbee wrote: »
    I need a life saving operation, due to health cuts half of them are summarily suspended. I've been told six to 12 months waiting list if I leave hospital [not my choice to stay or go anyway] yet my cardiologist thought I was so sick be admitted me immediately and I had a bed in three minutes flat.

    So I don't expect to be back to pay any Taxes.

    gbee, I hope things work out for you and you get well soon.
    Keep the head up, there's more important things in life than this bi11**** tax.


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    #2837
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    I'm not in denial at all, see my previous posts.

    A litany of self-denial? I've seen it all before.

    Self-confessed tax cheat with an inability to account for their unwillingness to pay their taxes. It's not a pretty picture.

    When are you putting up your business details and client list btw? I'm sure there's no grant-aid or pubic sector element in your income. :D


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    #2838
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    gbee wrote: »
    I need a life saving operation, due to health cuts half of them are summarily suspended. I've been told six to 12 months waiting list if I leave hospital [not my choice to stay or go anyway] yet my cardiologist thought I was so sick be admitted me immediately and I had a bed in three minutes flat.

    So I don't expect to be back to pay any Taxes.

    I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU

    This government lack so much empathy for their citizens,they feed fear to everyone,the last crowd were bad but this lot are + or should I say - 50%


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    #2839
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    gbee wrote: »
    I need a life saving operation, due to health cuts half of them are summarily suspended. I've been told six to 12 months waiting list if I leave hospital [not my choice to stay or go anyway] yet my cardiologist thought I was so sick be admitted me immediately and I had a bed in three minutes flat.

    So I don't expect to be back to pay any Taxes.

    Hope it works out for you. Sorry to hear that. Will pray for you.


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    #2840
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    A litany of self-denial? I've seen it all before.

    Self-confessed tax cheat with an inability to account for their unwillingness to pay their taxes. It's not a pretty picture.

    When are you putting up your business details and client list btw? I'm sure there's no grant-aid or pubic sector element in your income. :D

    I wouldn't be so stupid to put my business name and address on a public forum, especially if I was going to wind people up all the time like you do.
    There's a lot of nutters out there.


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    #2841
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Northclare wrote: »
    WHERE'S YOUR GRAPH AND TEMPLATE
    TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT

    Who's this 'we'? Feel free to draft up your own graphs to make your case.


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    #2842
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    kr7 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so stupid to put my business name and address on a public forum, especially if I was going to wind people up all the time like you do.
    There's a lot of nutters out there.

    So I've noticed. I'll take that as evidence that you've something to hide on the 'vested interest' front then. Or maybe you're one of those party shills you're so fond of referencing? :D


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    #2843
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    kr7 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so stupid to put my business name and address on a public forum, especially if I was going to wind people up all the time like you do.
    There's a lot of nutters out there.

    Ah go easy on him Kr7. Intelligent people like him and noodles are great posters to have on here. They give us a good laugh with their spinning.


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    #2844
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    So I've noticed. I'll take that as evidence that you've something to hide on the 'vested interest' front then. Or maybe you're one of those party shills you're so fond of referencing? :D

    There are some government contracts I get, yea.

    But, in case you haven't noticed, I'm arguing against this tax!

    It may even effect my business if there are LA cuts.

    But I'll still argue against this tax because it's wrong.

    You look after your own interests, I'll stand for what I believe in.


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    #2845
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    alastair wrote: »
    Northclare wrote: »
    WHERE'S YOUR GRAPH AND TEMPLATE
    TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT

    Who's this 'we'? Feel free to draft up your own graphs to make your case.

    Keep on spinning lol

    Are you on tranquilizers or something,or have mental health issues


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    #2846
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Ah go easy on him Kr7. Intelligent people like him and noodles are great posters to have on here. They give us a good laugh with their spinning.

    Be careful Tayto - the government forum agents might be watching. :eek:


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    #2847
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Northclare wrote: »
    Keep on spinning lol

    Are you on tranquilizers or something,or have mental health issues

    And that's the ignore button for you - bye!


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    #2848
    BarackPyjama
    Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    Clever tax. Gouge people who are in negative equity and, therefore, trapped in the country.


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    #2849
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    alastair wrote: »
    Be careful Tayto - the government forum agents might be watching. :eek:

    Na, dv's not up yet.:D


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    #2850
    Northclare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Northclare


    I get the feeling someone is on a long break and has decided they can come into boards.ie to justify their case.


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    #2851
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    BarackPyjama wrote: »
    Clever tax. Gouge people who are in negative equity and, therefore, trapped in the country.

    You'd prefer a tax on people that forced them abroad?


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