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Asylum Seekers /Immigration.

  • 12-07-2012 09:53PM
    #1
    atkin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .
    The figures are from the www.cso.ie The Irish statictics office 2011 census.
    Total population of the Irish Republic 4,524281
    Total born outside Ireland 766281
    Total African population 54419 documented increase 17.9%
    on 2006.
    Total Polish 122585 increase 93.7% from 2006 .

    The government had an Asylum agreement that you could only seek asylum at the first port of entry .The majority not disputed have come from the UK and sought asylum here when they were refused in the UK.There was no agreement on information sharing to identify them.They come and still do across the non existent border from Northern Ireland.There was also the Irish born children rule and that parents could get citizenship here if a child was born.A referendum changed this rule in 2004.Most live in rented accommodation now provided by the state and welfare .I believe many will never work .Over 90% of asylum claims are false it could be even 95%.

    In 2006 the government allowed new EU members to come with only the restriction that they need to work 2 years before they can claim welfare.
    The new EU members can claim welfare here and also a child allowance even if the children do not live here.The welfare is less in Poland for example.
    These new EU immigrants worked here believing that they had a future but many lost their jobs and now claim welfare.
    There is an increase in the issue of Irish passports which will give our 'new Irish' rights to bring family here.
    There was a warning in 2006 that when EU structural funds finished it would mean a slow down in the economy.
    What is astonishing the government heeded no warnings and examples of immigration in other countries.
    I have worked 38 years and lost my job.I now queue for welfare and see those that just came here by deception getting money with a smile on their faces. This is not racist I just feel let down by government. There is now cuts to welfare,property tax and water rates.The number of Irish leaving is to work abroad is 40,000 each year 2009-2011. We export workers and import immigrants to claim welfare and state housing.
    Remember foreigners are racist too and that includes blacks.I attended an international college of many nationalities and was subject to racial taunts from blacks.I did not take it serious however.
    The illegal Irish in the USA work do not claim welfare and some even pay taxes. We are not a nation that had colonies but were ruled by Britain and were downtrodden.Looks like we are now fair game again or the usual phrase a SOFT TOUCH .
    Jaysus you can find sheep easier than illegals and shop around asylum seekers


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Comments

  • #2
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .



    Never a good start to a debate.


  • #3
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I leave my pram and African baby at the bus stop as the welfare will give me a new one on Monday


  • #4
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    EU citizens cannot claim benefits during their first 2 years here. It would make no sense to come here to claim benefits. False asylum seekers coming here for money is a different matter entirely. If they do get asylum they cannot legally work. This is no fault of their own.


  • #5
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .

    So.. you're a refugee then? Oh the f*cking irony.


  • #6
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    So, AH OP? And you expect what to happen, exactly? Deep and meaningful debate?:D


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  • #7
    stmol32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest you weren't banned just because you produced this information.


  • #8
    Diddler1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭Diddler1977


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .
    The figures are from the www.cso.ie The Irish statictics office 2011 census.
    Total population of the Irish Republic 4,524281
    Total born outside Ireland 766281
    Total African population 54419 documented increase 17.9%
    on 2006.
    Total Polish 122585 increase 93.7% from 2006 .

    The government had an Asylum agreement that you could only seek asylum at the first port of entry .The majority not disputed have come from the UK and sought asylum here when they were refused in the UK.There was no agreement on information sharing to identify them.They come and still do across the non existent border from Northern Ireland.There was also the Irish born children rule and that parents could get citizenship here if a child was born.A referendum changed this rule in 2004.Most live in rented accommodation now provided by the state and welfare .I believe many will never work .Over 90% of asylum claims are false it could be even 95%.

    In 2006 the government allowed new EU members to come with only the restriction that they need to work 2 years before they can claim welfare.
    The new EU members can claim welfare here and also a child allowance even if the children do not live here.The welfare is less in Poland for example.
    These new EU immigrants worked here believing that they had a future but many lost their jobs and now claim welfare.
    There is an increase in the issue of Irish passports which will give our 'new Irish' rights to bring family here.
    There was a warning in 2006 that when EU structural funds finished it would mean a slow down in the economy.
    What is astonishing the government heeded no warnings and examples of immigration in other countries.
    I have worked 38 years and lost my job.I now queue for welfare and see those that just came here by deception getting money with a smile on their faces. This is not racist I just feel let down by government. There is now cuts to welfare,property tax and water rates.The number of Irish leaving is to work abroad is 40,000 each year 2009-2011. We export workers and import immigrants to claim welfare and state housing.
    Remember foreigners are racist too and that includes blacks.I attended an international college of many nationalities and was subject to racial taunts from blacks.I did not take it serious however.
    The illegal Irish in the USA work do not claim welfare and some even pay taxes. We are not a nation that had colonies but were ruled by Britain and were downtrodden.Looks like we are now fair game again or the usual phrase a SOFT TOUCH .
    Jaysus you can find sheep easier than illegals and shop around asylum seekers

    Source for bolded statement, please


  • #9
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    this should get interesting


  • #10
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,

    The government had an Asylum agreement that you could only seek asylum at the first port of entry

    Yep, and they changed that to this
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59465073&postcount=1

    atkin wrote: »
    In 2006 the government allowed new EU members to come with only the restriction that they need to work 2 years before they can claim welfare.
    The new EU members can claim welfare here and also a child allowance even if the children do not live here.The welfare is less in Poland for example.

    What has this to do with Asylum seekers?

    And yes, once they pay tax here, they can claim here. Thats how it works.
    atkin wrote: »
    These new EU immigrants worked here believing that they had a future but many lost their jobs and now claim welfare.
    There is an increase in the issue of Irish passports which will give our 'new Irish' rights to bring family here.
    There was a warning in 2006 that when EU structural funds finished it would mean a slow down in the economy.
    What is astonishing the government heeded no warnings and examples of immigration in other countries.


    Yes, the horror wreaked by hordes of Poles, Latvians and Lithuanians across the continent.....
    atkin wrote: »
    I have worked 38 years and lost my job.I now queue for welfare and see those that just came here by deception getting money with a smile on their faces.

    Who came here by deception?
    atkin wrote: »
    We export workers and import immigrants to claim welfare and state housing.

    No, we don't.
    atkin wrote: »
    Remember foreigners are racist too and that includes blacks.I attended an international college of many nationalities and was subject to racial taunts from blacks.I did not take it serious however.

    I fail to see your point.
    atkin wrote: »
    The illegal Irish in the USA work do not claim welfare and some even pay taxes.

    ...they don't claim because they're illegal.
    atkin wrote: »
    We are not a nation that had colonies but were ruled by Britain and were downtrodden.Looks like we are now fair game again or the usual phrase a SOFT TOUCH .

    We have the highest refusal rate for asylum seekers in Europe.


  • #11
    TheBody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭TheBody


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0wbfuBgbTE


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  • #12
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    you should go on a diet op, the atkins one


  • #13
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Dey tuk er jerbs!!!!









    Never has that phrase been more appropriate to a thread than here I guess!!


  • #14
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    I agree OP, as a country we should do more to support Asylum seekers.

    Its shameful the lack of empathy some people have for those that have nothing, not even a pot to piss in...


  • #15
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .
    ...........

    incoherent and confused rant you mean.


  • #16
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    I agree OP, as a country we should do more to support Asylum seekers.

    Its shameful the lack of empathy some people have for those that have nothing, not even a pot to piss in...
    Coming over here, pissing in our pots..


  • #17
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    RACISM,ISRAEL, MAYONNAISE.


  • #18
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    RACISM,ISRAEL, MAYONNAISE.

    MONORAIL !!!


  • #19
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Pottler wrote: »
    Coming over here, pissing in our pots..


    ah yeah but I dropped a sausage last time I was asylum seeking, fair game!:D


  • #20
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    MONORAIL !!!


    And why? Because the asylum seekers took the other rail away.


  • #21
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    I agree with you OP, but you're at nothing discussing it here.
    Expired Students on Expired Visas still here working for the cash if they can get it. I'd rather deport the rogue employers though.


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  • #22
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    this should get interesting

    i know it won't even get that far on here

    "Give any one species too much rope, and they'll **** it up"


  • #23
    SocSocPol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭SocSocPol


    atkin wrote: »
    Hi,
    I have been banned from other sites for producing this information .
    The figures are from the www.cso.ie The Irish statictics office 2011 census.
    Total population of the Irish Republic 4,524281
    Total born outside Ireland 766281
    Total African population 54419 documented increase 17.9%
    on 2006.
    Total Polish 122585 increase 93.7% from 2006 .

    The government had an Asylum agreement that you could only seek asylum at the first port of entry .The majority not disputed have come from the UK and sought asylum here when they were refused in the UK.There was no agreement on information sharing to identify them.They come and still do across the non existent border from Northern Ireland.There was also the Irish born children rule and that parents could get citizenship here if a child was born.A referendum changed this rule in 2004.Most live in rented accommodation now provided by the state and welfare .I believe many will never work .Over 90% of asylum claims are false it could be even 95%.

    In 2006 the government allowed new EU members to come with only the restriction that they need to work 2 years before they can claim welfare.
    The new EU members can claim welfare here and also a child allowance even if the children do not live here.The welfare is less in Poland for example.
    These new EU immigrants worked here believing that they had a future but many lost their jobs and now claim welfare.
    There is an increase in the issue of Irish passports which will give our 'new Irish' rights to bring family here.
    There was a warning in 2006 that when EU structural funds finished it would mean a slow down in the economy.
    What is astonishing the government heeded no warnings and examples of immigration in other countries.
    I have worked 38 years and lost my job.I now queue for welfare and see those that just came here by deception getting money with a smile on their faces. This is not racist I just feel let down by government. There is now cuts to welfare,property tax and water rates.The number of Irish leaving is to work abroad is 40,000 each year 2009-2011. We export workers and import immigrants to claim welfare and state housing.
    Remember foreigners are racist too and that includes blacks.I attended an international college of many nationalities and was subject to racial taunts from blacks.I did not take it serious however.
    The illegal Irish in the USA work do not claim welfare and some even pay taxes. We are not a nation that had colonies but were ruled by Britain and were downtrodden.Looks like we are now fair game again or the usual phrase a SOFT TOUCH .
    Jaysus you can find sheep easier than illegals and shop around asylum seekers
    Whole post is pure bile and crap.
    Care to actually provided any evidence for the higlighted claims you make in this racist rant?


  • #24
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    people who come out with this rhetoric should be murdered by the state. It's disgusting. Infact why isn't he banned?


  • #25
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    SocSocPol wrote: »
    Whole post is pure bile and crap.
    Care to actually provided any evidence for the higlighted claims you make in this racist rant?

    care to provide your own evidence?

    just an example: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/false-claims-help-bill-for-asylum-seekers-to-hit-300m-1366632.html

    "An overview of the asylum seeker situation estimated that 90 per cent of claims are bogus;"

    ah sure everything is racist these days, i'm not bothered about going to australia, my current skillset is not on their skills requirement list :( ah sure they're very racist :rolleyes:

    leave ye to it on this soft landing


  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    af_thefragile wrote: »
    Dey tuk er jerbs!!!!









    Never has that phrase been more appropriate to a thread than here I guess!!

    Really? OP seems to think they won't take jobs.


  • #27
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    VEN wrote: »
    care to provide your own evidence?

    just an example: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/false-claims-help-bill-for-asylum-seekers-to-hit-300m-1366632.html

    "An overview of the asylum seeker situation estimated that 90 per cent of claims are bogus;"

    ah sure everything is racist these days, i'm not bothered about going to australia, my current skillset is not on their skills requirement list :( ah sure they're very racist :rolleyes:

    leave ye to it on this soft landing

    the independent :D

    because they have no agenda.

    last time I read that rag they had a practically full page special from some scumbag who was championing the cause of geert wilders and warning fellow like minded defenders of ireland to watch out for the left wing agenda.

    the english daily mail would be held to a higher account that that. It's disgusting.

    Irish racists are an absolute special embarrasment considering the history of emigration.


  • #28
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Leftist wrote: »
    because they have no agenda.

    piss poor excuse if ever i saw one, no agenda :pac:


  • #29
    Standman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    Can be boiled down to "I'm annoyed I lost my job so I occupy myself by moaning about asylum seekers"


  • #30
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    VEN wrote: »
    piss poor excuse if ever i saw one, no agenda :pac:

    if you honestly think that news papers/agencies don't have an political alliance, agenda or leaning then you're even more gullible than I gave you credit for.


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  • #31
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Leftist wrote: »
    people who come out with this rhetoric should be murdered by the state. It's disgusting. Infact why isn't he banned?

    Gloriously apt username.


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