Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2009-2011

deisedude · 27-05-2011 9:12pm

STIG83 wrote: »

Anyone on here read Big Dan's book? i read it during the week, couldnt put it down, it a good read.

Ya, i read it. Interesting but probably little in it to interest hurling fans outside of Waterford since a lot of it was a blow by blow account of his best games. Thought Damien Tiernans book was a better read despite some of its obvious flaws

STIG83 · 27-05-2011 9:17pm

deisedude wrote: »

Ya, i read it. Interesting but probably little in it to interest hurling fans outside of Waterford since a lot of it was a blow by blow account of his best games. Thought Damien Tiernans book was a better read despite some of its obvious flaws

Im currently reading Damien Tiernans book, just read 1st chapter.
In Dan's book i never realised Gerald McCarthy dropped him for a year.

Mountainlad · 28-05-2011 1:42pm

Jeddah wrote: »

Look lads i think the best way to judge a manager is by results.

First of all to give Davy credit , he took over a bag of sh*te in 08 and got us to an All Ireland final by beating Tipp in a great match in the semi. The following year the Galway win was the highlight getting us to another semi. Last year we won a munster title.

IMO this year we need to be pushing on one further. Dont think we can be satisfied with one big scalp.

I don't believe that a team can go from being second best team in the country (a very close second) to a so-called bag of sh*te. They weren't fit enough granted, and they were sick of the whole scene with Justin. There was always going to be a marked improvement whatever manager came in. And we didn't exactly acquit ourselves well in that All-Ireland final.

The thing people forget is you don't beat the best teams by playing awful. Improving our hurling isn't going to be a negative.

Last year against Tipp there was no point where I thought we would win, everyone knew from very early we were in trouble. He's done some very good and important things. but to be fair it's only since he came in that the young players have appeared, like since his first full year in 2009 Waterford have made consecutive minor finals with a good chance of a third and we've also been in an u21 munster final. That depth of talent wasn't there before and though Justin was pretty bad at giving players a chance (I think largely because he didn't intend staying with Waterford so long and he said 'ah well we went close so same team and a bit more luck we'll do it next year' not realising the importance of having a strong bench) but at the same time we were introducing one or two a year from unsuccessful underage teams (Eoin Murphy, Aiden Kearney, Stephen Molumphy etc.)

I also agree about Dublin and I think we would beat them and I think we need to be expecting that if we think we're going to win the all-ireland which has to be the aim this year!

Mountainlad · 28-05-2011 1:46pm

Nuts102 wrote: »

In his first year the confidence was low people were saying we were finished for a few years. He got us to the Final, the semi's last year and won the Munsters. For people saying he is a bad manager thats not a bad record with an average enough team. He has freshened things up and brought through some much needed young talent which is an important part of his job. He got rid of the dead wood and brought players through. Thats what a good manager does unlike previous managers who kept calling up the same players. Being honest im not a massive hurling fan but i make sure to watch Waterford games so im not going to discuss tactics etc because im not qualified to talk about it. But i cant understand how people are saying he is a poor manager with his record. The team is shaping up nicely and i think we have a good chance of the Munsters and possibly the All Ireland.

By the way, I do agree with somethings you've said. I believe he has put very modern structures in place i.e. training is completely new, statisticians. And I do agree that they have chance of winning the all-ireland and if they do I will accept him as a very good manager. But in order to win the all-ireland they need to acknowledge some of the problems they're having for example the ball into the forwards.

egpower · 28-05-2011 2:39pm

Cake Man wrote: »

Will Brian O' Halloran be fit?? Have heard conflicting stories, some that he'll make it, some saying his hamstring is still fecked and needs more treatment on it. Would be great if he does make it though.

I have it from a good source today that he is not fit and won't be for a while yet.

PTH2009 · 30-05-2011 2:43pm

Jayus the under 21 championship is a crazy system. If Waterford lose on Wednesday than the season is over for them no second chance and what a tough game against last years Champions Tipperary in Thurles

. Love to see them win the match

Deise Tom · 30-05-2011 2:51pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jayus the under 21 championship is a crazy system. If Waterford lose on Wednesday than the season is over for them no second chance and what a tough game against last years Champions Tipperary in Thurles . Love to see them win the match

Why is it crazy. The under 21's is the only real championship that is left. In England, in the F.A. Cup, supposibly one of the biggest competitions in the world, do teams beaten get a second chance.

PTH2009 · 30-05-2011 2:59pm

Tickets are on sale now on Ticketmaster for the Munster Senoir Hurling Semi Final Waterford vs Limerick.

Got 4 brillent Seats Section 206 Row G

calvin_zola · 30-05-2011 4:27pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jayus the under 21 championship is a crazy system. If Waterford lose on Wednesday than the season is over for them no second chance and what a tough game against last years Champions Tipperary in Thurles . Love to see them win the match

I think it is more to with the availability of senior players on the under 21 panels which is the matter here. If they ran a back door system they would risk some young players getting burnt out.

Anyone know what time throw in is. I can't find it on the GAA website

ArtVandelay76 · 30-05-2011 4:31pm

calvin_zola wrote: »

I think it is more to with the availability of senior players on the under 21 panels which is the matter here. If they ran a back door system they would risk some young players getting burnt out.

Anyone know what time throw in is. I can't find it on the GAA website

I think throw in is 1.45

calvin_zola · 30-05-2011 4:33pm

ArtVandelay76 wrote: »

I think throw in is 1.45

cool, 7.45 I think you meant

ArtVandelay76 · 30-05-2011 4:35pm

calvin_zola wrote: »

cool, 7.45 I think you meant

No i meant 1.45

calvin_zola · 30-05-2011 4:42pm

good man

its on

WEDNESDAY JUNE 1ST, 2011

Knockout
7 30 PM - Tipperary vs. Waterford
Semple Stadium, Thurles

just found it on gaa.ie

Psychedelic · 30-05-2011 7:28pm

Anyone know what way the terraces are going for the game against Limerick? Will it be mixed on both terraces or mainly one set of fans per terrace?

Le King · 30-05-2011 8:07pm

Psychedelic wrote: »

Anyone know what way the terraces are going for the game against Limerick? Will it be mixed on both terraces or mainly one set of fans per terrace?

Just a guess but I'd say since Waterford are in the Town End and Limerick are in the Killinan End. I imagine you are better off ringing up. But I'm pretty sure that will be the way it goes.

I imagine it will be fairly mixed though. Just ring up one of the clubs and ask where your terrace tickets are for.

As I said, I imagine it will be the Town End, but it will be close to 50/50 I'd say...

PTH2009 · 30-05-2011 9:15pm

Waterford fans are never in the Town End Terrace. Waterford fans are always in the Killian End.

For the 2007 Munster final Wat vs Limerick, Waterford had the Killian End terrace, while Limerick had the Town End terrace

alllcounty · 30-05-2011 9:25pm

According to munster gaa website the under 21 semi final versus Cork is in Thurles if Tipp win and in Walsh park if waterford win on the 20th July. Extra incentive to win. Anyone know the tipp team, are many of their all ireland senior or under 21 team playing wednesday. Wont be easy going up to thurlas to take on the home team and beat them on the same pitch they train on. However we do have a strong team and if they can get over this then they have a good chance of reaching the munster final.

Deise Tom · 30-05-2011 11:09pm

alllcounty wrote: »

According to munster gaa website the under 21 semi final versus Cork is in Thurles if Tipp win and in Walsh park if waterford win on the 20th July. Extra incentive to win. Anyone know the tipp team, are many of their all ireland senior or under 21 team playing wednesday. Wont be easy going up to thurlas to take on the home team and beat them on the same pitch they train on. However we do have a strong team and if they can get over this then they have a good chance of reaching the munster final.

Ten of last years panel are still there, including Noel McGrath.

premierstone · 31-05-2011 12:01am

Tipp lineout as follows, obv not as strong as last year but still pretty decent

1.Paul Ryan

2.Ciaran Haugh
3.Kevin O'Gorman
4.Stephen Maher

5.Brian Stapleton
6.James Barry
7.Paudie Heffernan

8.Joe Gallagher
9.Noel McGrath

10.Sean Curran
11.Paddy Murphy
12.Adrian Ryan

13. John O'Dwyer
14. Buggy O'Meara
15.John O'Neill

flahavaj · 31-05-2011 1:18am

Noe McGrath at midfield is interesting.

premierstone · 31-05-2011 9:39am

flahavaj wrote: »

Noe McGrath at midfield is interesting.

Would have always been midfield underage and with hes club, only really ended up centre-forward for Tipp seniors out of lack of other viable options.

Deise Tom · 31-05-2011 10:43am

premierstone wrote: »

Tipp lineout as follows, obv not as strong as last year but still pretty decent

1.Paul Ryan

2.Ciaran Haugh
3.Kevin O'Gorman
4.Stephen Maher

5.Brian Stapleton
6.James Barry
7.Paudie Heffernan

8.Joe Gallagher
9.Noel McGrath

10.Sean Curran
11.Paddy Murphy
12.Adrian Ryan

13. John O'Dwyer
14. Buggy O'Meara
15.John O'Neill

Waterford team.

1
Stephen O'Keeffe
Ballygunner
2
Jamie Barron
Fourmilewater
3
Noel Connors
Passage
4
Paidi Prendergast
Lismore
5
Philip Mahony (Capt)
Ballygunner
6
Darragh Fives
Tourin
7
Stephen Daniels
De La Salle
8
Stephen Roche
Mount Sion
9
Martin O Neill
Mount Sion
10
Eamonn Murphy
Dunhill
11
Adam Brophy
St. Saviours
12
Padraic Mahony
Ballygunner
13
Brian O Sullivan
Ballygunner
14
Eoin Madigan
De La Salle
15
Jake Dillon
De La Salle

Browney7 · 31-05-2011 11:13am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Waterford fans are never in the Town End Terrace. Waterford fans are always in the Killian End.

For the 2007 Munster final Wat vs Limerick, Waterford had the Killian End terrace, while Limerick had the Town End terrace

Yeah Limerick are always in the Town End terrace these days except when they play Cork in Thurles. When I was a small fella Tipp and Cork always got the Town end but in the last few years the Tipp boys have gone to the Killinan end. Waterford seem to always be in the Killinan end.

deiseach · 31-05-2011 11:57am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jayus the under 21 championship is a crazy system. If Waterford lose on Wednesday than the season is over for them no second chance and what a tough game against last years Champions Tipperary in Thurles . Love to see them win the match

I like it. While I'm in favour of the backdoor in general, it's good to have a competition that's a throwback to the winner-takes-all days.

deiseach · 31-05-2011 12:07pm

alllcounty wrote: »

According to munster gaa website the under 21 semi final versus Cork is in Thurles if Tipp win and in Walsh park if waterford win on the 20th July. Extra incentive to win. Anyone know the tipp team, are many of their all ireland senior or under 21 team playing wednesday. Wont be easy going up to thurlas to take on the home team and beat them on the same pitch they train on. However we do have a strong team and if they can get over this then they have a good chance of reaching the munster final.

Well spotted. Although being at home in the final didn't do us any good against Clare in 2009!

Deise Tom · 31-05-2011 12:18pm

deiseach wrote: »

Well spotted. Although being at home in the final didn't do us any good against Clare in 2009!

I think this home thing is a load of crap, if you are a good enough team, and you make less mistakes than your opponents in a game, you will win, no matter where the game is played. A field is the same for both sides. OK maybe one might be more used to playing on it than another, but so. Its like when a few years back a former inter county hurler that was over a team found all kind of excuses when his side were told they were playing in Lemybrien.

HelloYoungBoy · 31-05-2011 1:21pm

Deise Tom wrote: »

Waterford team.

1
Stephen O'Keeffe
Ballygunner
2
Jamie Barron
Fourmilewater
3
Noel Connors
Passage
4
Paidi Prendergast
Lismore
5
Philip Mahony (Capt)
Ballygunner
6
Darragh Fives
Tourin
7
Stephen Daniels
De La Salle
8
Stephen Roche
Mount Sion
9
Martin O Neill
Mount Sion
10
Eamonn Murphy
Dunhill
11
Adam Brophy
St. Saviours
12
Padraic Mahony
Ballygunner
13
Brian O Sullivan
Ballygunner
14
Eoin Madigan
De La Salle
15
Jake Dillon
De La Salle

A very young u21 team with alot of players from this years minor team and last years. How many players are actually on the age?

deiseach · 31-05-2011 1:29pm

Deise Tom wrote: »

I think this home thing is a load of crap, if you are a good enough team, and you make less mistakes than your opponents in a game, you will win, no matter where the game is played. A field is the same for both sides. OK maybe one might be more used to playing on it than another, but so. Its like when a few years back a former inter county hurler that was over a team found all kind of excuses when his side were told they were playing in Lemybrien.

I think home is an advantage, but not a huge one. I crunched the numbers on our League record (Winter 1949 - 15 March 2011) and this was our overall record:

deisebhoy17 · 31-05-2011 2:46pm

HelloYoungBoy wrote: »

A very young u21 team with alot of players from this years minor team and last years. How many players are actually on the age?

Couple of strange selections in defence. Pauidie Prendergast corner back? He was corner forward for the minors a couple years back. Noel Connors very small for full back. I would start Fives at full Connors in the corner and move Paudie Prender out to wing back or midfield.
There are 2 minors starting in Jamie Barron and Jake Dillon. Big ask for them
No Maurice Shan or Brian O'Halloran. obviously didnt make it Thought Owen Whelan and Shane Kearney (Dungarvan) would be starting. Other than that its a strong looking team

premierstone · 31-05-2011 2:54pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Couple of strange selections in defence. Pauidie Prendergast corner back? He was corner forward for the minors a couple years back. Noel Connors very small for full back. I would start Fives at full Connors in the corner and move Paudie Prender out to wing back or midfield.
There are 2 minors starting in Jamie Barron and Jake Dillon. Big ask for them
No Maurice Shan or Brian O'Halloran. obviously didnt make it Thought Owen Whelan and Shane Kearney (Dungarvan) would be starting. Other than that its a strong looking team

Yeah I can definitely see Connors moving to the corner, Buggy Meara is a big strapping FF and would have connors for size, besides Noel Connors is far too good a hurler to be confined to the square, I reckon he will end up doing a man marking job on John O'Neill.

calvin_zola · 31-05-2011 3:20pm

http://www.hoganstand.com/Waterford/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=148835

Mountainlad · 31-05-2011 3:50pm

1
Stephen O'Keeffe- age is/will be 20 this year
Ballygunner
2
Jamie Barron- is 17 will be 18 this year
Fourmilewater
3
Noel Connors- is/will be 21 this year
Passage
4
Paidi Prendergast-is 18 will be 19 this year
Lismore
5
Philip Mahony (Capt)- is/will be 20 this year
Ballygunner
6
Darragh Fives- is/ will be 19 this year
Tourin
7
Stephen Daniels- is/will be 21 this year
De La Salle
8
Stephen Roche- is/ will be 19 this year
Mount Sion
9
Martin O Neill- is/ will be 20 this year
Mount Sion
10
Eamonn Murphy is/will be 19 this year
Dunhill
11
Adam Brophy- haven't a clue
St. Saviours
12
Padraic Mahony- is 18 will be 19 this year
Ballygunner
13
Brian O Sullivan- is/ will be 21 this year
Ballygunner
14
Eoin Madigan- is/ will be 19 this year
De La Salle
15
Jake Dillon- is/ will be 18 this year
De La Salle

I'm fairly sure those are right but I'm open to correction. In total 11 (and maybe Adam Brophy will still be underage next year) as well Brian O Halloran. There will also be 8 underage in two years time. No doubt it's a very young team.

If Maurice and O Halloran were fit I'd be confident. I think it should be close but Tipp have a very strong inside forward line and Noel McGrath. I must concede I don't know a huge amount about the Tipp backline.

I'm suprised to see Stephen Roche at midfield because I thought he was quite small, but I trust this management team.

I think Tipp will probably win but hopefully not.

caeser · 31-05-2011 3:56pm

Going to be a very good game me thinks. 2 strong teams.

premierstone · 31-05-2011 4:07pm

calvin_zola wrote: »

Connors is going to be the seniors next full back in years to come, Fives was made bits of against Clare in 09 in the final, he is more suited to the corner

In fairness to Fives he was 18 at the time and marking a combination of Darach Honan, Caman Morey and Colin Ryan that night, they would have destroyed anyone nevermind a young rookie, Connors got cleaned in the corner aswell. That was a serious Clare inside forward line, they scored something redicolous like 4-13 between them in the semi.

deisebhoy17 · 31-05-2011 4:43pm

Premierstone & Calvin Zola it was Shane Fives was full back against Clare that day he's overage now. this is his younger brother Darragh who is just out of minor were talking about. Different player entirely and twice the hurler Shane is to be fair. Id have no worries about him fullback

premierstone · 31-05-2011 4:53pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Premierstone & Calvin Zola it was Shane Fives was full back against Clare that day he's overage now. this is his younger brother Darragh who is just out of minor were talking about. Different player entirely and twice the hurler Shane is to be fair. Id have no worries about him fullback

lol was thinking that he would have been very young in 2009 to be still on the team this year and is underage again next year!

Know the guy now yeah and an excellent hurler, again I would feel he has too much hurling to be restricted on the edge of the square, but as with all Waterford teams for a number of years now, FB seems to be a huge problem area.

Daysha · 31-05-2011 5:12pm

Lads just wondering which way would ye get to Thurles from the city these days? In the past I'd always go Clonmel -> Cahir -> Cashel but Google seems to think it'll be at least 15 minutes quicker going up the M9, getting off at the south Kilkenny exit and going west from there across the R691. I didn't think it'd make much sense at first but looking at the map it does seem to be a bit more direct.

Cake Man · 31-05-2011 6:14pm

I've no doubt the team won't line out as per that team announced. Connors will go to the corner, Fives to full back, Prendergast to wing back and Philip Mahony to centre back. Have a good feeling Maurice will start too.

Fairly young team all the same with the majority underage for next year and even the year after.

Looking forward to this game, it'll be very tough but there's no harm going up and giving it a go. Anyone heading up?

STIG83 · 31-05-2011 6:26pm

Daysha wrote: »

Lads just wondering which way would ye get to Thurles from the city these days? In the past I'd always go Clonmel -> Cahir -> Cashel but Google seems to think it'll be at least 15 minutes quicker going up the M9, getting off at the south Kilkenny exit and going west from there across the R691. I didn't think it'd make much sense at first but looking at the map it does seem to be a bit more direct.

Im sure Clonmel to Cahir, get on the M8 and drive to the Thurles exit? im sure there is a Thurles exit?

Daysha · 31-05-2011 7:09pm

STIG83 wrote: »

Im sure Clonmel to Cahir, get on the M8 and drive to the Thurles exit? im sure there is a Thurles exit?

Yeah there is, we'd usually just get off at the Horse and Jockey exit. But some of the lads were saying the other way will be quicker with the new motorway to Kilkenny. Thought the idea was cracked myself!

Deise Tom · 31-05-2011 7:19pm

calvin_zola wrote: »

Connors is going to be the seniors next full back in years to come, Fives was made bits of against Clare in 09 in the final, he is more suited to the corner

Was he, I reckon you have the wrong brother.

Deise Tom · 31-05-2011 7:23pm

STIG83 wrote: »

Im sure Clonmel to Cahir, get on the M8 and drive to the Thurles exit? im sure there is a Thurles exit?

Exit 6 to turn off at Horse and Jockey (or close to) for Thurles, Exit 10 for Cahir on the way back.

STIG83 · 31-05-2011 8:15pm

Daysha wrote: »

Yeah there is, we'd usually just get off at the Horse and Jockey exit. But some of the lads were saying the other way will be quicker with the new motorway to Kilkenny. Thought the idea was cracked myself!

Really? cant see how it be quicker though.

Deise Tiger · 31-05-2011 9:04pm

Daysha wrote: »

Yeah there is, we'd usually just get off at the Horse and Jockey exit. But some of the lads were saying the other way will be quicker with the new motorway to Kilkenny. Thought the idea was cracked myself!

The most straight forward way is head to Clonmel, take the road to Cashel, head on the motorway for Dublin taking the exit for the Horse & Jockey. Going to Cahir would put a few miles onto your journey. If travelling this way, allow extra time for going through Clonmel if a good crowd travels. Traffic gets backed up due to the amount of roundabouts on the ring road.

A cross country route would be to head out the Kilkenny motorway, take the exit for Callan. Head into Callan via Dunamaggin. Go throught the village in Callan and onto the Clonmel/Kilkenny road. Turn righ there. Head along for a fewhundred yardsand turn left to Ballingarry (signposted). Go though Ballingarry village, follow on for a few miles and turn right (a narrow road) into Ballynonty (signposted). Go through the crossroads in Ballynonty village, head straight until you meet the old Dublin/Cork road. Turn right here, head a few hundred yards and turn left. This will lead you onto the road from the Horse and Jockey and Thurles.

Now i STRESS that this is a CROSS COUNTRY route. The roads are narrow once you leave the Kilkenny motorway. I drive it a good bit every week and it takes me roughly 75mins from going onto the Kilkenny motorway to the gates of the Stadium. I use it to avoid the trafficin Clonmel. Both route are roughly the same in distance, Clonmel roads would be alot better...

Anothe route is to head to Kilkenny, then head to Freshford and onto Urlingford. Thurles is a short distance from Urlingford.

Deise Tiger · 31-05-2011 9:21pm

If both teams perform to their capabilities, then we should have a cracking game. Tipp have a strong team but they will admit it is not near as good as the team of last year.

From NO's 8 to 15, they are very strong on paper although Denis Maher is a big loss to them. At midfield, Joe Gallagher won't be found wanting while Noel McGrath is simply a genius. Someone is going to be busy keeping an eye on him.

Sean Curran can be a handful for most defenders, Paddy Murphy is on the senior panel but can blow hot and cold. Adrian Ryan is a very versatile hurler. The inside line is where their main danger is - John O'Neill, Buggy O'Meara and John O'Dwyer. The corner men are excellent sticksmen while Buggy is a brilliant ball winner especially at this level.

The interesting thing is that our best area of the field is from 1-7 while they are from 8-15. Tipp backs are there to be got at. That saying, they are all very capable hurlers. Brian Stapleton at wing back will take watching. He tends to push forward but often forgets keep an eye on his own man. Saw him hurl midfield for his club a few weeks back and he was excellent. James Barry at Centreback can also be very loose.

Pity Maurice Shanahan and Brian O'Halloran are missing, hopefullythey will be fit to make an appearance at some stage..

Waterford have a great chance ofcoming out on top in this one..

HuntingDrog · 31-05-2011 9:35pm

anyone know if this match is on tv/radio?

STIG83 · 31-05-2011 9:37pm

HuntingDrog wrote: »

anyone know if this match is on tv/radio?

Definitely not on tv, WLR Fm might be covering it or just doing updates.

deiseach · 01-06-2011 9:36am

Deise Tiger wrote: »

The most straight forward way is head to Clonmel, take the road to Cashel, head on the motorway for Dublin taking the exit for the Horse & Jockey. Going to Cahir would put a few miles onto your journey. If travelling this way, allow extra time for going through Clonmel if a good crowd travels. Traffic gets backed up due to the amount of roundabouts on the ring road.

A cross country route would be to head out the Kilkenny motorway, take the exit for Callan. Head into Callan via Dunamaggin. Go throught the village in Callan and onto the Clonmel/Kilkenny road. Turn righ there. Head along for a fewhundred yardsand turn left to Ballingarry (signposted). Go though Ballingarry village, follow on for a few miles and turn right (a narrow road) into Ballynonty (signposted). Go through the crossroads in Ballynonty village, head straight until you meet the old Dublin/Cork road. Turn right here, head a few hundred yards and turn left. This will lead you onto the road from the Horse and Jockey and Thurles.

Now i STRESS that this is a CROSS COUNTRY route. The roads are narrow once you leave the Kilkenny motorway. I drive it a good bit every week and it takes me roughly 75mins from going onto the Kilkenny motorway to the gates of the Stadium. I use it to avoid the trafficin Clonmel. Both route are roughly the same in distance, Clonmel roads would be alot better...

Anothe route is to head to Kilkenny, then head to Freshford and onto Urlingford. Thurles is a short distance from Urlingford.

There's always someone who knows a better route to Thurles

Deise Tom · 01-06-2011 9:49am

Deise Tiger wrote: »

The most straight forward way is head to Clonmel, take the road to Cashel, head on the motorway for Dublin taking the exit for the Horse & Jockey. Going to Cahir would put a few miles onto your journey. If travelling this way, allow extra time for going through Clonmel if a good crowd travels. Traffic gets backed up due to the amount of roundabouts on the ring road.

It might be shorter to cut off in Clonmel and head for Cashel, rather than to go straight on and head for Cahir, turning off at the round that leads to the motorway outside Cahir, but it is a far better road. If you get caught behind anything on the Clonmel to Cashel Road (its silage time of the year etc) you could be held up some time.

egpower · 01-06-2011 9:59am

Looking forward to a great game tonight. I think the weather will oblige and it just might be very good fun. I really hope we win (and we have a decent chance) but as has been said by a few this is a young team and it will come again.

It's hard to know the impact (both mental & physical) of having played a senior intercounty match last weekend. It's definitely better than playing U21 the few days before a senior intercounty match (we saw that with Waterford last year). It may be hard to get back up for this tonight for the like of Noel McGrath. Then again - he is special and I am looking forward to watching him tonight.

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