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Red button on Saorview

  • 20-02-2016 9:48am
    #1
    brick man
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    Just looking at Schedule for TG4 for Saturday 27th on saorview EPG and it is showing election coverage all day and live Pro 12 Rugby via Saorview Red Button and UPC CH 602 @ 7pm . I think this has to be a first for Saorview and if so fair play to TG4


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  • #2
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Yes I just noticed this now. Perhaps the testing going on with TG4HD the last while has something to do with it?


  • #3
    dublinman1990
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    The notice is listed on my Triax combi box now as well. This news sounds very encouraging. :)

    I hope this becomes a great feature for Saorview viewers in the future.


  • #4
    [Deleted User]
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    Good if it happens. Just to point out though on TG4's own schedule online:

    http://www.tg4.ie/en/schedule/

    the following info is given re the rugby.
    Live coverage of Connacht v Ospreys from the Sportsground in the 16th round of the PRO12. Available on UPC Red Button and Virgin Channel 602.

    Saorview red button not mentioned.


  • #5
    brick man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭brick man


    Deleted User wrote:
    Saorview red button not mentioned.

    Deleted User wrote:
    the following info is given re the rugby.


    Probably a misprint as virgin /UPC are same thing and I am reading Saorview EPG info


  • #6
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Saorview red button not mentioned.

    They are certainly mentioning it on the Saorview EPG


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  • #7
    brick man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭brick man


    lertsnim wrote:
    They are certainly mentioning it on the Saorview EPG


    Great addition to Saorview of course RTE to backward thinking to use features like that . One thing I am curious about ; does using red button take up more space in mux or not ?


  • #8
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    brick man wrote: »
    ... does using red button take up more space in mux or not ?

    Course it does, it's just an extra channel/service/whatever. On receivers without MHEG5 'red button' feature, it will have to be selected from the channel list.


  • #9
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    brick man wrote: »
    does using red button take up more space in mux or not ?

    Yes. It will require a separate stream.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
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    Had a look at RTE's online listings. They repeat the info given by TG4, ie the 'UPC red button'.

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/television/


  • #11
    dublinman1990
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    This taken from the Saorview What's on page from their website.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/whats-on
    Vóta 2016 - An Comhaireamh
    Beidh torthaí beo agus cuimsitheacha ag TG4 ón gcomhaireamh toghchain ar VÓTA 2016. (Live results from the election count on VÓTA 2016. Host Paidí Ó Lionaird is joined by a panel of experts including Alan Dukes, Mary Coughlan, Éamon Gilmore and Liadh Ní Riada to discuss the results as they come in. Regular summaries of results and trends will be presented by Maolra Mac Donnacha in the studio with a visual representation of how the votes impact the political landscape. Eimear Ní Chonaola will anchor news headlines on the hour, with concise summaries and overviews on events. Live PRO12 rugby available on Saorview Red Button and Virgin/UPC Channel 602 at 19.00)

    10:00


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  • #12
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Why have they waited years to use something thst was there from day 1?


  • #13
    icdg
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Had a look at RTE's online listings. They repeat the info given by TG4, ie the 'UPC red button'.

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/television/

    Red button is not supported by some Virgin Media platforms - in particular Horizon.


  • #14
    mike2084
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    I expect there is no chance this will be made available to satellite viewers?


  • #15
    StreetLight
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    There was a very brief Red Button test on Saorview in May 2015:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=95473513

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  • #16
    icdg
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    mike2084 wrote: »
    I expect there is no chance this will be made available to satellite viewers?

    Doesn't seem so. Worse than it could be since it appears Welsh TV has passed up this game(S4C is showing under 20s Six Nations, BBC Two Wales repeats)


  • #17
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    icdg wrote: »
    Doesn't seem so. Worse than it could be since it appears Welsh TV has passed up this game(S4C is showing under 20s Six Nations, BBC Two Wales repeats)

    I presume S4C is contracted to show Welsh U 20s game and there is no way BBC2W would have rugby clashing with S4C. Also BBC2W's Pro 12 game for this next round of fixtures is Dragons vs Glasgow on Thursday night. I see your point though. For those with satellite only access to TG4 there will be no rugby coverage and I presume TG4 on Freeview in NI will have the election coverage also and not the rugby. With RTE1 having continuous election coverage could TG4 not have given up this slot for the rugby?


  • #18
    medoc
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    For those with satellite only access to TG4 there will be no rugby coverage and I presume TG4 on Freeview in NI will have the election coverage also and not the rugby. With RTE1 having continuous election coverage could TG4 not have given up this slot for the rugby?



    Surely the best thing was to continue the election coverage via the red button and have a break for the game on normal TG4. An onscreen ticker could have popped up if any counts/results were declared during the rugby. Still it's good to at last see use been made of the extra capacity and technology that's available.


  • #19
    Sam Russell
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    If my memory serves me, wasn't it a GREEN button on Saorview they were testing or is my memory failing?


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    If my memory serves me, wasn't it a GREEN button on Saorview they were testing or is my memory failing?

    They used green in the very early days to test the MHEG-5 EPG. I think the recent test on News Now was red.


  • #21
    khumbu
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭khumbu


    medoc wrote: »
    Surely the best thing was to continue the election coverage via the red button and have a break for the game on normal TG4. An onscreen ticker could have popped up if any counts/results were declared during the rugby. Still it's good to at last see use been made of the extra capacity and technology that's available.

    Maybe the reason that election coverage was not moved to red button is because the election coverage is on regular TG4 saorview in SD & the Rugby will be in HD on red button?


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  • #22
    galtee boy
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    khumbu wrote: »
    Maybe the reason that election coverage was not moved to red button is because the election coverage is on regular TG4 saorview in SD & the Rugby will be in HD on red button?

    I wouldn't hold your breath on that one ! They are fluting around with the last month or so, with "testing" of TG4 HD, even though there is no concrete evidence that the loop of Galway etc that keeps running, is an actual test for TG4 HD, never mind HD via the red button. And forgive my scepticism , but I'll believe the red button coverage when I see it, even in SD, because we all know that the wheels in Saorview turn VERY slowly.


  • #23
    lertsnim
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    TG4 HD did appear on that channel last week.


  • #24
    galtee boy
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    TG4 HD did appear on that channel last week.

    So people are saying and I'll take their word for it, but it must have been a rare sighting, as it hasn't been seen since ! Can't understand the delay. How much testing do they need ?


  • #25
    lgs 4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    galtee boy wrote: »
    So people are saying and I'll take their word for it, but it must have been a rare sighting, as it hasn't been seen since ! Can't understand the delay. How much testing do they need ?
    I totally agree ,it's three or four weeks testing now .If i remember right when RTE1 HD started , there was no testing :rolleyes:


  • #26
    brick man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭brick man


    lertsnim wrote:
    TG4 HD did appear on that channel last week.


    Would it need ministerial approval like RTE to change ?


  • #27
    lgs 4
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    brick man wrote: »
    Would it need ministerial approval like RTE to change ?
    Sometime next year so for ministerial approval


  • #28
    STB.
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    They are certainly mentioning it on the Saorview EPG

    Unless the test was for the temporary use of some space just for the Rugby.:) Sure it falls under the testing of the interactive services.

    Anyhow whats the Skin you are using. Its very clean.


  • #29
    mike2084
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    icdg wrote: »
    Doesn't seem so. Worse than it could be since it appears Welsh TV has passed up this game(S4C is showing under 20s Six Nations, BBC Two Wales repeats)

    Yes I noticed that too dosen't look good for satellite viewers


  • #30
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    STB. wrote: »
    Unless the test was for the temporary use of some space just for the Rugby.:) Sure it falls under the testing of the interactive services.

    Anyhow whats the Skin you are using. Its very clean.

    Confluence


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  • #31
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    STB. wrote: »
    Unless the test was for the temporary use of some space just for the Rugby.:) Sure it falls under the testing of the interactive services.

    Anyhow whats the Skin you are using. Its very clean.

    If the test was for temporary space for the rugby then it will be on HD which is good for Saorview viewers. Still hope though that TG4 goes HD on Saorview sooner rather than later.


  • #32
    Boggy
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Boggy


    Looks like hidden channel 12 is now testing according to digitalbitrate.com at the moment (don't have access to saorview). This may be the red button feed


  • #33
    brick man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭brick man


    Confirmed on Saorview website that TG4 will be using red button on Saturday for rugby Pro 12 coverage


  • #34
    lgs 4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    Boggy wrote: »
    Looks like hidden channel 12 is now testing according to digitalbitrate.com at the moment (don't have access to saorview). This may be the red button feed
    Yes, channel 12 has 2rn test card in SD and channel 14 is still in HD .


  • #35
    Boggy
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Boggy


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Yes, channel 12 has 2rn test card in SD and channel 14 is still in HD .

    Earlier according to digitalbitrate.com it was in HD which had a still of an ad (looked like one for AXA). Channel 12 and 15 have been showing 2rn test cards in sd for a long while


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
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    According to the graphs it appears that channel 12 has been alternating between SD and HD.


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  • #37
    Atlantic Dawn
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    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Sometime next year so for ministerial approval

    Does Freeview in the UK have as much political interference? Surely the company should be able to do pretty much whatever they want once it's within their charter.


  • #38
    Sam Russell
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Does Freeview in the UK have as much political interference? Surely the company should be able to do pretty much whatever they want once it's within their charter.

    There is a good question. Freeview and Freesat are not tied politically to anything but the BBC has been under attack from Tories for some time. RTE has been under attack from various politicians (and certain clergymen) for the last 50 years.

    What is new about that?


  • #39
    Digifriendly
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    There is a good question. Freeview and Freesat are not tied politically to anything but the BBC has been under attack from Tories for some time. RTE has been under attack from various politicians (and certain clergymen) for the last 50 years.

    What is new about that?

    AFAIK Freeview is clear from any direct political interference and as you say Tories do criticise BBC freely but by and large Freeview has been allowed to develop without politicians interfering in that development. Cannot remember any major issue in last 14 years re Freeview that politicians have made political capital out of.


  • #40
    Carawaystick
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    What Mux is the Red button on? rté1 or 2


  • #41
    mackersdublin
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    There is a good question. Freeview and Freesat are not tied politically to anything but the BBC has been under attack from Tories for some time. RTE has been under attack from various politicians (and certain clergymen) for the last 50 years.

    What is new about that?

    Without wanting to go off topic - Freesat is owned by BBC & ITV


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  • #42
    Digifriendly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    What Mux is the Red button on? rté1 or 2

    I presume because its for TG4 it is on the same mux as RTE2/TV3/TG4.


  • #43
    Tony
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    From Saorview

    "TG4 announces interactive Red Button service

    This Saturday, TG4 goes interactive with the first use of the Saorview Red Button feature. The broadcaster will be using the Red Button option on Saorview to broadcast the Guinness Pro 12 Rugby match between Connacht and Opsreys with coverage starting from 7pm. The match will be broadcast live from the Galway Sportsground as part of the station’s Rugbaí Beo series and it will be available via the Red Button on Saorview during TG4’s coverage of the Election 2016 count.

    Viewers watching TG4 on a Saorview Approved box or TV will be able to access Rugbaí Beo by pressing the Red Button on the remote control for their Saorview box or TV when the icon appears on screen."

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  • #44
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Perhaps TG4 and TV3 could share red button functionality for live sports events rather than putting both full time in HD if theres bandwidth or cost issues for them.


  • #45
    Digifriendly
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    Wonder will this be timer recordable on a PVR? With BBC red button on Freeview you could timer record from 601. Is this possible with TG4? Is there another channel that pressing the red button on TG4 will automatically bring you to?


  • #46
    Ten Pin
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    I wonder will red button only work on Saorview approved boxes / TV's?

    Does red button work on FTA boxes on satellite channels? eg Ferguson Ariva etc


  • #47
    Tony
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    FTA boxes don't have the red button feature bu if you scan at the time of the broadcast you can view the channel.

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  • #48
    [Deleted User]
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    Did a retune on my Sony TV. Theres a blank carrier now being stored at channel 22. Also seems to be an MHEG generated 2rn logo. Is this the red button channel for Saturday?


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did a retune on my Sony TV. Theres a blank carrier now being stored at channel 22. Also seems to be an MHEG generated 2rn logo. Is this the red button channel for Saturday?

    No, that was the Oireachtas TV test. Not sure why it's still unhidden.


  • #50
    khumbu
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭khumbu


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did a retune on my Sony TV. Theres a blank carrier now being stored at channel 22. Also seems to be an MHEG generated 2rn logo. Is this the red button channel for Saturday?


    No that was previously Oireachtas channel.
    Guessing but Red Button stream most lightly to appear on one of the other hidden test channels on mux2 (same mux as RTE1/UTVIrl):-
    lcn 12 2102
    lcn 14 2104
    lcn 15 2105

    PS lcn 14 tested TG4 in HD for a short period last week.


  • #51
    [Deleted User]
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    khumbu wrote: »
    No that was previously Oireachtas channel.
    Guessing but Red Button stream most lightly to appear on one of the other hidden test channels on mux2 (same mux as RTE1/UTVIrl):-
    lcn 12 2102
    lcn 14 2104
    lcn 15 2105

    PS lcn 14 tested TG4 in HD for a short period last week.

    Cheers. Is that the one currently showing the rolling videos of Dublin & Galway? Oddly enough I can find and store it on one TV in the house with a manual tune, but another TV won't find it.


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