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Mass sexual assaults covered up for 4 days by German media - READ OP BEFORE POSTING

  • 04-01-2016 9:46pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭


    http://www.thelocal.de/20160104/refugees-blamed-for-mass-sexual-assault-in-cologne

    The first German newspaper reports the story this evening. Total media black out for 4 days.
    I live in Germany and was totally unaware this had happened. I'm both sick and furious. For months German media has not published story's when it has involved the 'refugees'.
    I've read an account (in german) of a 17 year old girl who was attacked and had fingers inserted into every orifice!

    German police did not give descriptions of these animals as it would lead to negative feelings regarding the newly arrived.

    If you want I can link the German stories.



    Mod:

    Don't make mass generalisations about muslims, germans, daily mail readers or any group for that matter. Using this thread as an excuse to get a pop at any of these groups will result in cards/bans.

    Keep it to a debate and discussion about the events in Cologne and as usual, don't derail.

    Lastly, if you don't want the thread to be closed, don't give us a reason to close it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    I wonder will the usual crew on here still be wanting to put refugees up in their homes, like they claimed a few months ago...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Well, that didn't take long.

    Can't say any of this is terribly surprising. Not the disgusting attitude toward women, plenty of that was seen during the "Arab spring", not the cover-up by authorities that heavily promoted unrestricted movement of refugees either.

    One thing I noticed during the refugee coverage was how it seemed that the majority were young males, lots of family groups/kids/elderly but vastly outnumbered by young men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    So what goes around, comes around eh?


    Wow...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    German boards >>>>>>>>


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 91 ✭✭Larry the Logster


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT. Move along. Nothing to see here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭The Sun King


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    Too right. That 17 year old girl shouldn't complain... Is that what you mean?

    We got to the Nazi post in record time. -.-"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 91 ✭✭Larry the Logster


    Specialun wrote: »
    German boards >>>>>>>>

    Were you saying that at the height of the migration 'crisis' I wonder? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    I have a daughter who is half German are you suggesting it is OK for her to be sexuality assaulted by a large crowd of men? You f**king fool.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Norway is offering classes to Muslims to teach them not to rape

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/20/report-norway-is-offering-classes-to-teach-muslim-immigrants-not-to-rape/

    The real problem is not the Muslims but the people who would open our doors and welcome them into their country. Usually these are middle aged women and middle class people who think they are safe in their ivory towers away from the working class where these people would be placed here.

    It is all well and good when these things are happening somewhere else and to strangers but the day will come when it will start happening here. Close the borders, get out of the EU and UN Convention for Human Rights. <snip>


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    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    Godwinned in a few posts. Great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Around 60 complaints have been made to the police in Cologne after a group of around 1,000 men attacked revellers in the city centre in a brutal and “completely unheard of” way, Wolfgang Albers, Chief of Police in the Rhineland city said at a press conference on Monday afternoon.

    I really wasn't expecting to see that it was a group of that size. Absolutely shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    Can't see this thread lasting long in fairness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Freak Midget


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    They were the victims of mass rape actually.

    Anyway this is very distressing to read to read but really it's the natural outcome of a disastrous immigration policy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I really wasn't expecting to see that it was a group of that size. Absolutely shocking.

    There cops were so outnumbered they couldn't do anything about it. Jesus wept when is madness going to stop? This kind of behaviour has NO part or place in Europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    Seriously? Clearly all those girls and women deserved it then? Disgusting attitude.

    I'm sure you wouldnt be saying the same if it was your mother/sister/wife assaulted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,436 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    This is nothing new. You only have to look at Sweden, where it's the statistically the 2nd highest sexual assault rate, behind South Africa.

    You see the welcoming parties for refugees, but every weekend, cities like Dresden, have anti emigration rallies, with thousands marching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Can't see this thread lasting long in fairness.
    Wouldn't surprise me if it gets locked, Seems that those voicing legitimate concerns have been proven right yet again...... but I'm sure the liberals which seems to include a large number of boards mods will still want to label those with a realistic view and legit concerns as racist..... until one of their own is raped, murdered or maimed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭mikeym


    If there was mass sexual assaults on New Years Eve it should be reported regardless of race.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Freak Midget


    Is this to become the norm in Europe?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    http://www.thelocal.de/20160104/refugees-blamed-for-mass-sexual-assault-in-cologne

    The first German newspaper reports the story this evening. Total media black out for 4 days.
    I live in Germany and was totally unaware this had happened. I'm both sick and furious. For months German media has not published story's when it has involved the 'refugees'.
    I've read an account (in german) of a 17 year old girl who was attacked and had fingers inserted into every orifice!

    German police did not give descriptions of these animals as it would lead to negative feelings regarding the newly arrived.

    If you want I can link the German stories.

    Careful reading is a great man

    "as a social media storm accused police and media of a cover-up."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,436 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Is this to become the norm in Europe?

    Its been norm for last 15-20 years. It's just getting more frequent now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭emo72


    Nodin wrote: »
    Careful reading is a great man

    "as a social media storm accused police and media of a cover-up."

    social media can be used as an excellent tool to get information out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me if it gets locked, Seems that those voicing legitimate concerns have been proven right yet again...... but I'm sure the liberals which seems to include a large number of boards mods will still want to label those with a realistic view and legit concerns as racist..... until one of their own is raped, murdered or maimed.

    I always find it funny when people use the term "liberal" in a pejorative way, as if being liberal is a bad thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Nodin wrote: »
    Careful reading is a great man

    "as a social media storm accused police and media of a cover-up."

    "Around 60 complaints have been made to the police in Cologne after a group of around 1,000 men attacked revellers in the city centre in a brutal and “completely unheard of” way, Wolfgang Albers, Chief of Police in the Rhineland city said"

    The chief of police must be in on it too, you are seriously, even dangerously, deluded.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Freak Midget


    Its been norm for last 15-20 years. It's just getting more frequent now.

    In Sweden yes. Seems Germany is going down the same path.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    emo72 wrote: »
    social media can be used as an excellent tool to get information out.

    Yes, and it also spreads stuff like anti-vaccination stories, WTC conspiracy theories, racist memes, and pictures of cats with funny captions. You'll therefore understand that - the issue of a coverup being somewhat important - I reserve judgement for the moment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Freak Midget


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I always find it funny when people use the term "liberal" in a pejorative way, as if being liberal is a bad thing.

    When it blinds you to reality being liberal is a bad thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.
    Some Germans 70 years ago - not sure what relevance that has to German people born since, or the many Germans alive then who harmed nobody? This case should still be reported surely?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    "Around 60 complaints have been made to the police in Cologne after a group of around 1,000 men attacked revellers in the city centre in a brutal and “completely unheard of” way, Wolfgang Albers, Chief of Police in the Rhineland city said"

    The chief of police must be in on it too, you are seriously, even dangerously, deluded.

    As I said "careful reading". You might re-read the post you quoted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Nodin wrote: »
    Careful reading is a great man

    "as a social media storm accused police and media of a cover-up."

    20 sexual assaults reported to police at one time and one location is a big deal considering how few of these assualts tend to get reported compared to how any occur.
    Funny how victims and serious crimes don't matter unless they fit the right agenda for the "caring" types.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Islam is well hijacked by some to suit their ends :

    The Research and Fatwa Department of the Islamic State (ISIS) has released a pamphlet on the topic of female captives and slaves. The pamphlet, which is dated Muharram 1436 (October/November 2014) and was printed by ISIS's publishing house, Al-Himma Library, is titled Su'al wa-Jawab fi al-Sabi wa-Riqab ("Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves").


    "Question 4: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female captive?

    "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with the female captive. Allah the almighty said: '[Successful are the believers] who guard their chastity, except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are free from blame [Koran 23:5-6]'..."



    "Question 5: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female captive immediately after taking possession [of her]?

    "If she is a virgin, he [her master] can have intercourse with her immediately after taking possession of her. However, is she isn't, her uterus must be purified [first]…"

    "Question 6: Is it permissible to sell a female captive?

    "It is permissible to buy, sell, or give as a gift female captives and slaves, for they are merely property, which can be disposed of [as long as that doesn't cause [the Muslim ummah] any harm or damage."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭emo72


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, and it also spreads stuff like anti-vaccination stories, WTC conspiracy theories, racist memes, and pictures of cats with funny captions. You'll therefore understand that - the issue of a coverup being somewhat important - I reserve judgement for the moment.

    yes. but in this case its not. reserve the right not to rush to judgement. thats wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    "the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population"


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    THere's a bad undercurrent in Germany the past couple of months due to Merkels approach to refugees.

    It will come to a head at some point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Islam is well hijacked by some to suit their ends :

    You information on the people that did this are in ISIL ? Or would that be a deflection ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, and it also spreads stuff like anti-vaccination stories, WTC conspiracy theories, racist memes, and pictures of cats with funny captions. You'll therefore understand that - the issue of a coverup being somewhat important - I reserve judgement for the moment.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3384423/German-police-hunt-group-1-000-men-Arab-North-African-origin-sexually-assaulted-numerous-women-threw-fireworks-crowds-Cologne-train-station-New-Year-s-Eve.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    20 sexual assaults reported to police at one time and one location is a big deal considering how few of these assualts tend to get reported compared to how any occur.
    Funny how victims and serious crimes don't matter unless they fit the right agenda for the "caring" types.

    Again, I suggest re-reading what I posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭emo72


    lots of police statements in those reports.id be fairly confident, that the attacks took place. although i dont want to rush to judgement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    1 report of rape, while awful isn't beyond the norm for NYE. (DM link)

    Most places need verifiable facts to run stories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    emo72 wrote: »
    lots of police statements in those reports.id be fairly confident, that the attacks took place. although i dont want to rush to judgement.

    There seems to be a dearth of willingness to read tonight. You might point out what post I denied the mass attack took place in, and quote the relevant text.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Is it just me or weren't the Germans up the ole mass sexual crimes not 70 years ago?

    Among others.

    Are you referring to The Soviet ground forces who raped and pillaged Berlin in 1945 like a pack of wild dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭emo72


    Nodin wrote: »
    There seems to be a dearth of willingness to read tonight. You might point out what post I denied the mass attack took place in, and quote the relevant text.

    did i quote you as saying that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    This seems like an organised gang almost, which, if the allegations are true is deeply concerning. Dismissing the issue or deflecting away from it is idiotic. But it is equally idiotic (and racist, yes, it is) to use this to attack refugees or Muslims through generalisation.

    Perhaps rather than rushing to judgement we should let the police do their jobs and then figure out what happened, what the underlying reasons were and how best to prevent this from happening again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    emo72 wrote: »
    did i quote you as saying that?

    Then what are you getting at in post in post 41? And please don't pretend it wasn't aimed at me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭Freak Midget


    mansize wrote: »
    1 report of rape, while awful isn't beyond the norm for NYE. (DM link)

    Most places need verifiable facts to run stories

    One woman was raped, numerous others were molested. Mass sexual assault of women is well beyond the norm for western Europe.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Memnoch wrote: »
    This seems like an organised gang almost, which, if the allegations are true is deeply concerning. Dismissing the issue or deflecting away from it is idiotic. But it is equally idiotic (and racist, yes, it is) to use this to attack refugees or Muslims through generalisation.

    Perhaps rather than rushing to judgement we should let the police do their jobs and then figure out what happened, what the underlying reasons were and how best to prevent this from happening again.

    IMport loads of refugees, put them up in halls and gyms with basic accomodation and little rights, what do you expect?

    Setting people up to live as second class citizens never works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭emo72


    Memnoch wrote: »
    This seems like an organised gang almost, which, if the allegations are true is deeply concerning. Dismissing the issue or deflecting away from it is idiotic. But it is equally idiotic (and racist, yes, it is) to use this to attack refugees or Muslims through generalisation.

    Perhaps rather than rushing to judgement we should let the police do their jobs and then figure out what happened, what the underlying reasons were and how best to prevent this from happening again.

    quite right. someting happened. the police said so. and obviously it would be stupid to blame this on islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Stheno wrote: »
    IMport loads of refugees, put them up in halls and gyms with basic accomodation and little rights, what do you expect?

    Setting people up to live as second class citizens never works.

    1. Escape war torn home
    2. Gain entry into welfare state
    3. Provided with shelter, food, safety etc
    4.??
    5. Go raping

    Can't see the connection myself.


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