Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

yop · 31-08-2015 1:20pm

Murphy14 wrote: »

Connolly will get red reduced to yellow on same basis that Kevin Keane got his reduced on appeal

Ah hey, Michael did you register just to tell us that

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 1:22pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

AOS will have to get some change off the ref the next day. He caught the ball clean above his head on a few occasions and was pulled and dragged as he attempted to solo or hop and the decision went against him. He is some ledgend he took more verbal and physical abuse yesterday than most players experience in their career and he didn't loose the cool like the thug conolly. There was one confrontation between the 2 in the 2nd half and conolly was quick to exit the stage, he prefers his big hits from the blind side.Mayo were physical yesterday and often cynical but they never stooped to cowardice like Cooper, McMahon et al, even for that alone I'm proud of them.

AOS kept his cool alright. Unlike O Connor who gave a fella 10 stitches for a jersey pull. There was wrong on both sides. It can be debated all day. Dublin lost the match due to consistant fouling and ill discipline.

For me the worst tackle all day and the one that was red all over was Coopers. The potential for serious damage was huge. The fact the ref yellowed meant he seen it so how he didn't send him off is beyond me.

But lets not pretend that Mayo were angels either

martyos121 · 31-08-2015 1:22pm

Murphy14 wrote: »

Connolly will get red reduced to yellow on same basis that Kevin Keane got his reduced on appeal

How hard did you hit Kevin though, honestly?

:pac:

Kerry_2008 · 31-08-2015 1:31pm

Kerryman here.

I thought Mayo were shafted by the ref yesterday. Let Dublin get away with an awful amount even from viewing on tv. Was speaking to someone who is a selector with an inter county team (not Kerry) a few months back and he said Dublin are the most cynical team in Ireland.

Even taking into account the frees etc yesterday i thought COC was poor in general play. Aidan O' Shea was too isolated at times even though he was being man handled most of the time. Maybe moving him back out around half forward or midfield where there is more space would suit him.

Overall your forwards were poor enough for most of the game yesterday. For all the talk about Dublin playing defensive they just got numbers back, they hadnt much of a system truth be told. If may had more convicition and pressed forward they could have done real damage.

Mayo in a better place. I wonder will there be the same out cry about Dubs antics as there was for Tyrone?

naughto · 31-08-2015 2:49pm

Kinsella to ref it

yop · 31-08-2015 2:52pm

naughto wrote: »

Kinsella to ref it

whats he like?

martyos121 · 31-08-2015 3:01pm

yop wrote: »

whats he like?

A quick google search produces no big headlines, which is generally a good sign.

Reffed the final last year, wasn't a big factor in the game at all IMO, which is another good sign.

Nidgeweasel · 31-08-2015 3:05pm

martyos121 wrote: »

A quick google search produces no big headlines, which is generally a good sign.

Reffed the final last year, wasn't a big factor in the game at all IMO, which is another good sign.

He wasn't a factor but he was shíte. Some bad calls and missed a fair bit. Shouldn't have gotten the final last year in the first place.

homewardbound11 · 31-08-2015 3:23pm

Guys
Anyone get tickets online or other.

Online was down for the entire sellout period . Queue in supervalu for 2 hours and calling the gaa during this time .

During the entire period of the online failure they managed to sell out the replay.
The lady at the gaa office said the tickets were sold at the Dorset steer office during this period .
How in the name of God are you supposed to get tickets.

Either that or the gaa is ran by touts with a flair for online web page hacking.

yop · 31-08-2015 3:36pm

martyos121 wrote: »

A quick google search produces no big headlines, which is generally a good sign.

Reffed the final last year, wasn't a big factor in the game at all IMO, which is another good sign.

Could it be true!! A ref who will ref and not be the talking point in the game!

In fairness to Dublin Joe it was a hard job yesterday.

Seans_Username · 31-08-2015 3:42pm

homewardbound11 wrote: »

Guys
Anyone get tickets online or other.

Online was down for the entire sellout period . Queue in supervalu for 2 hours and calling the gaa during this time .

During the entire period of the online failure they managed to sell out the replay.
The lady at the gaa office said the tickets were sold at the Dorset steer office during this period .
How in the name of God are you supposed to get tickets.

Either that or the gaa is ran by touts with a flair for online web page hacking.

Absolute joke trying to get tickets online. Spent over an hour getting shafted online. Of the 3 times it processed my selection, I got through to the login page just once, and they gave me 4 minutes to buy the ticket.... It took 10 minutes for the page to load ffs. Timed out, ticket gone.

Raging at not getting one, I was there from 11 this morning dying of impatience. I have other options, but it shouldn't be as difficult to get tickets online.

Ascii · 31-08-2015 4:01pm

A

homewardbound11 · 31-08-2015 4:02pm

I think The issue here is the gaa. Tickets and allocation of them at Dorset street must have been in massive quantities to sell out an entire countries allocation.

The gaa have some answering to do as this has a bad smell about it

Ascii · 31-08-2015 4:07pm

Was having a quick glance during lunch break of the sportsfile photos on the web. They really tell a story of the game that you don't see live or on the TV. Credit to AOS for staying calm when he was being harassed for the day. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that Dublin are the only team in the country that "play the man" as opposed to the ball but in both these photos you will see no effort is made at all secure possession of the ball by the dubs merely take AOS out of the equation....almost rugby esque style. Particularly noticeable is PMcM blocking O shea from climbing for the ball. He make no effort to secure possession only to hinder and obstruct AOS.

Coillte_Bhoy · 31-08-2015 4:11pm

homewardbound11 wrote: »

I think The issue here is the gaa. Tickets and allocation of them at Dorset street must have been in massive quantities to sell out an entire countries allocation.

The gaa have some answering to do as this has a bad smell about it

what counties allocation? This was a general public sale afaik

Ascii · 31-08-2015 4:12pm

homewardbound11 wrote: »

I think The issue here is the gaa. Tickets and allocation of them at Dorset street must have been in massive quantities to sell out an entire countries allocation.

The gaa have some answering to do as this has a bad smell about it

Why wouldn't the Grab All Association not put a few thousand on sale in McHale park this morning. Could you have got them at the Connaught council HQ at the COE in Bekan ? Why restrict to Dorset only. The more I think about it they are such a shower of biased f**kers.

Coillte_Bhoy · 31-08-2015 4:22pm

O'Connor being brought up in front of the CCC for the elbow

keane2097 · 31-08-2015 4:24pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

O'Connor being brought up in front of the CCC for the elbow

Any link?

Coillte_Bhoy · 31-08-2015 4:52pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Any link?

Sorry, just a false rumour, i shouldnt have posted it

Ascii · 31-08-2015 5:18pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Sorry, just a false rumour, i shouldnt have posted it

http://m1.joe.ie/YToyOntzOjQ6ImRhdGEiO3M6MTUyOiJhOjM6e3M6MzoidXJsIjtzOjkxOiJodHRwOi8vbWVkaWEtam9lLm1heGltdW1tZWRpYS5pZS5zMy5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDE0LzAzL2NhcmVmdWxub3cuanBnIjtzOjU6IndpZHRoIjtpOjY0NztzOjY6ImhlaWdodCI7aTozNDA7fSI7czo0OiJoYXNoIjtzOjQwOiI5MGZkMjg3YTg5YjNkYzNmZThjMWJlODUyNmZhMzI1N2M1ZWNmYzVlIjt9/carefulnow.jpg

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 5:21pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Sorry, just a false rumour, i shouldnt have posted it

You just caused a collective ****e haemorrage from Claremorris to Belmullet. Meanwhile the Dubs defenders were sharpening their studs with delight at the thought of the best free taker in the competition watching the replay from a bar in Ballintubber:D

Westernyelp · 31-08-2015 6:17pm

I queued for 3 hours on Dorset street this morning and managed to get six upper Cusack together. They will all be going to people who were at yesterdays game. it was madness there though as there was no restriction on numbers bought. seen someone buy 16. 8 and 8 together.

Must have been touts there snapping them up.

There was at least another 3 hours of a q behind me when I left. was trying to get online all the time too and it was Impossible.

Not fair that there was an outlet like this in Dublin and none in Mayo, or was there?

Crazy situation.

Shurimgreat · 31-08-2015 6:35pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Sorry, just a false rumour, i shouldnt have posted it

:eek:

Nothing to see with the O'Connor "incident". Wasn't looking at the player. If ROC wasn't all over him like a rash, he wouldn't have got an accidental bang from O'Connor who was only trying to highlight to the umpires what was happening.

ROC was 100% to blame for the incident. Might teach him a lesson although I doubt it.

On another matter, refs and umpires need to give protection to marquee players like COC.

Westernyelp · 31-08-2015 6:45pm

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/the-clearest-angle-of-the-connolly-red-card-incident-yet/

Clear punch from Conolly

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 6:47pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

:eek:

Nothing to see with the O'Connor "incident". Wasn't looking at the player. If ROC wasn't all over him like a rash, he wouldn't have got an accidental bang from O'Connor who was only trying to highlight to the umpires what was happening.

ROC was 100% to blame for the incident. Might teach him a lesson although I doubt it.

On another matter, refs and umpires need to give protection to marquee players like COC.

That's a nonsense post. By your reckoning then Connolly after being wrestled to the ground in a headlock was perfectly justified to throw a punch which he then got red card for.

In one incident a player threw a wild arm/elbow/forearm/hand at head high whilst being held resulting in a serious injury. In the other incident a player was thrown to the ground in a headlock and threw a punch (which we don't even know whether it connected) yet you see a difference in two incidents.

Both were wrong. Both were against the rules. At least be objective and remove your bias

Shurimgreat · 31-08-2015 6:56pm

Paulzx wrote: »

That's a nonsense post. By your reckoning then Connolly after being wrestled to the ground in a headlock was perfectly justified to throw a punch which he then got red card for.

In one incident a player threw a wild arm/elbow/forearm/hand at head high whilst being held resulting in a serious injury. In the other incident a player was thrown to the ground in a headlock and threw a punch (which we don't even know whether it connected) yet you see a difference in two incidents.

Both were wrong. Both were against the rules. At least be objective and remove your bias

In one incident, a dublin defender pulls on the jersey of a Mayo player. The mayo player sticks out his arms to complain about it and the dublin player accidently runs into his outstretched hand. The mayo player wasnt even looking at the dublin player. Its farcical to suggest as some try to (mostly the Keane poster on here) that COC deliberately set out to punch ROC. He didn't. Its like two players running into each other, accidently. ROC was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The question is why was he in that place? It was more cynicism from Dublin players.

As for the Connolly one, I'm not the sort that likes to see players banned. I'd rather teams won games with the best 15 on either side. Connolly threw a punch, but he was provoked, a bit like Kevin Keane. Connolly should not be banned in my view.

I don't think you can get more objective than that.

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 7:03pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

the dublin player accidently runs into his outstretched hand.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

In all the posts over the numerous threads about the match that quote is the best of them all..................and you didn't even mean it as humour!!!!

Brillaint!!!!!!!!!

It reminds me of Baldrick being ordered to run into Blackadders outstretched fist. You have a future in comedy that you never knew about:D

blue4ever · 31-08-2015 7:07pm

You must all be on the "home brew" home brew west of Ballyhaunis

https://vine.co/v/eIjYalb3UIP

He didn't "walk into his hand" - that's a punch plain and simple - I see he even went for a bit of theater after throwing the dig.

Shurimgreat · 31-08-2015 7:09pm

Paulzx wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D:D

In all the posts over the numerous threads about the match that quote is the best of them all..................and you didn't even mean it as humour!!!!

Brillaint!!!!!!!!!

It reminds me of Baldrick being ordered to run into Blackadders outstretched fist. You have a future in comedy that you never knew about:D

And yet its true. It happens in every game, and it happens in soccer too, but clearly you don't watch too many games of GAA, just the high profile ones.

Players get hit all the time in football matches accidentally and end up with severe cuts. Two mayo players ran into each other last year in limerick and had to go off for cuts. Next you will be saying they did it deliberately!

But if you want to talk about deliberate cynicism, we can. We can start with Johnny Cooper.

blue4ever · 31-08-2015 7:14pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

And yet its true. It happens in every game, and it happens in soccer too, but clearly you don't watch too many games of GAA, just the high profile ones.

Players get hit all the time in football matches accidentally and end up with severe cuts. Two mayo players ran into each other last year in limerick and had to go off for cuts. Next you will be saying they did it deliberately!

But if you want to talk about deliberate cynicism, we can. We can start with Johnny Cooper.

Ye can look closer to home for cynical players.

naughto · 31-08-2015 8:04pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

O'Connor being brought up in front of the CCC for the elbow

Jesus man ya had the heart across me

km79 · 31-08-2015 8:06pm

no retrospective action for any player
connolly one game ban but can appeal

Blackjack · 31-08-2015 8:07pm

blue4ever wrote: »

You must all be on the "home brew" home brew west of Ballyhaunis

https://vine.co/v/eIjYalb3UIP

He didn't "walk into his hand" - that's a punch plain and simple - I see he even went for a bit of theater after throwing the dig.

That's not a punch. Not in a million years.

PARlance · 31-08-2015 8:11pm

km79 wrote: »

no retrospective action for any player
connolly one game ban but can appeal

Official?

km79 · 31-08-2015 8:18pm

PARlance wrote: »

Official?

Irish times reporting it from CCCC meeting

PARlance · 31-08-2015 8:23pm

km79 wrote: »

Irish times reporting it from CCCC meeting

If it ends up that Connolly is the only one out then I'll take that and run. The thought of even the slightest chance of Cillian getting called up was nerve wracking.

Shurimgreat · 31-08-2015 8:27pm

PARlance wrote: »

If it ends up that Connolly is the only one out then I'll take that and run. The thought of even the slightest chance of Cillian getting called up was nerve wracking.

I wouldn't celebrate too much. Either Alan Brogan to start and Mcmenaman to replace him or vica versa I'd say. Both equally as good as Connolly on their day. I don't think this will weaken Dublin that much.

TCDStudent1 · 31-08-2015 8:31pm

Blackjack wrote: »

That's not a punch. Not in a million years.

Not a punch, but most definitely a strike.

TCDStudent1 · 31-08-2015 8:32pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I wouldn't celebrate too much. Either Alan Brogan to start and Mcmenaman to replace him or vica versa I'd say. Both equally as good as Connolly on their day. I don't think this will weaken Dublin that much.

Alan Brogan or McManaman are nowhere near as good as Connolly. McManaman's biggest strength is his pace against tiring defenders when he comes off the bench. Dublin will not want to start him.

Blackjack · 31-08-2015 8:35pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Not a punch, but most definitely a strike.

No question it was a strike but I think a lot more is being made of that incident than is necessary.

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 8:40pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

And yet its true. It happens in every game, and it happens in soccer too, but clearly you don't watch too many games of GAA, just the high profile ones.

Ahhhh.............when you don't have a reasonable point to make accuse the other person of not being a true Gaelic thoroughbred. Sure what would ye know about our games and ye only a blow in soccer fan.

You know nothing about me so don't make claims that you've pulled from the sky. I've plenty of involvement at club level and even if I didn't I'm perfectly entitled to express an opinion on Gaa. It's that type of closed attitude that kept the GAA back over the years. Stick to debating the points.

Unlike you I don't let bias cloud my posts. You'll see I posted in another thread that Cooper should have got red as his tackle was in my opinion the worst in the match.

I am willing to be objective. You aren't

PARlance · 31-08-2015 9:03pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I wouldn't celebrate too much. Either Alan Brogan to start and Mcmenaman to replace him or vica versa I'd say. Both equally as good as Connolly on their day. I don't think this will weaken Dublin that much.

He still can appeal and I wasn't celebrating.

Both good players and dangerous but I would prefer to play Dublin without Connolly every day of every week. It's beyond a no brainer.

Paulzx · 31-08-2015 10:03pm

PARlance wrote: »

He still can appeal and I wasn't celebrating.

Both good players and dangerous but I would prefer to play Dublin without Connolly every day of every week. It's beyond a no brainer.

Definetly agree. Connolly will be a big loss. It's a pity because he had defintely calmed down the last couple of seasons. However he seemed to be losing it from the start of this game and having a go at the ref a good bit. I can still understand his frustration with Keegans actions but you're on a loser once you take a swing at someone and its seen

Shurimgreat · 31-08-2015 10:39pm

Paulzx wrote: »

Definetly agree. Connolly will be a big loss. It's a pity because he had defintely calmed down the last couple of seasons. However he seemed to be losing it from the start of this game and having a go at the ref a good bit. I can still understand his frustration with Keegans actions but you're on a loser once you take a swing at someone and its seen

He's always been a hothead to be fair. Liable to score a great goal and a few points. Also liable to get sent off at the drop of a hat. Too easily wound up and Mayo certainly knew how to get under his skin. I don't think he was suited to that kind of game where the opposing team really get in your face. More suited to a game where he is given time and space and respect. And Mayo weren't willing to do that.

Padkir · 31-08-2015 11:04pm

Paulzx wrote: »

You'll see I posted in another thread that Cooper should have got red as his tackle was in my opinion the worst in the match.

That is a fact. By far the most aggressive and most dangerous action out there, but somehow is being overshadowed by McMahon's headbutt / non-headbutt and O'Connors flailing arm.

ultrapercy · 01-09-2015 12:15am

Blackjack wrote: »

That's not a punch. Not in a million years.

Maybe not but it was a lucky bonus. It's a joy to watch.

Ascii · 01-09-2015 7:31am

blue4ever wrote: »

You must all be on the "home brew" home brew west of Ballyhaunis

https://vine.co/v/eIjYalb3UIP

He didn't "walk into his hand" - that's a punch plain and simple - I see he even went for a bit of theater after throwing the dig.

Firstly: Can you enlighten me as to why ROC was pulling COC by the jersey from behind when the play was down the other end of the pitch ? This seems to have been the start of the incident. If ROC was playing the ball and not the man you would feel the incident wouldn't have occurred.
Secondly: We can drop the talk of him " walking into his hand" which he didn't and we can also drop the talk of "a punch plain and simple". It a result of the flailing action COC engages in as he is trying to wriggle away from ROC. IMO its back of the hand connection between COC's hand and ROC's face

Ascii · 01-09-2015 7:37am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Not a punch, but most definitely a strike.

Correct ascertain

Oldtree · 01-09-2015 9:18am

Season ticket "bring a friend" sold out in less than 30 minutes this am

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-09-2015 9:54pm

Lots of rubbish going on all over these boards about punches, headbutts, black cards, red cards, tickets, touts, refs, etc etc

Gets really hard to keep reading at times.

But what do Mayo folk think about the chances in the replay ?

Personally I'm pretty upbeat about it.

I just think that they played really badly against a very good team and did lot lose
They will not play as poorly again I don't think.
And it's not a case of getting "their bad game over them", that's usually something that is said after you scrape past a bad team, Dublin are a good team, this was a really get out of jail situation.

I think there is a consensus that Mayo are much better playing their own attacking game than trying to play some sort of elaborate system to suit a specific opponent, this is what happened last year v Kerry in the first game and again yesterday
When they put the head down and did what they ere good at, the high pressing attacking game, it reaped rewards
That's not to say that you abandon the backs, they have to find the balance, and I think they will over this week based on what they learned from Sunday.

I think Barry Moran is a must to start.
I'm not sure how much Vaughan will be missed, the down side is that he is a great man to get a few points in a game, but against a team like Dublin Durcan may be a bit more inclined to stay back.
I really don't know much about Durcan so I could be way off with that assessment.

I'm not sure how Dublin are after that game.
They blew it big time.
They were ahead for all but the first few minutes and the last few minutes, they had a 7 point lead with 8 mins or so to go, their long range kicker who has been lights out for years was doing hos best Niall Morgan impression.
In their first big test in 12 months they failed to win a game they should have easily.
I don’t think Cluxton will be as bad again on Saturday but the guys is having a poor year by his standards.
They will miss Connelly (hopefully) and O' Carroll also, if he has not recovered.

A point has been made that Dublin will not be as ill-disciplined on Saturday as they were on Sunday.
I'm finding that hard to believe, I have heard and read a lot about how they are not the best at clean tackling, I'm not sure how they will learn to fix that in a week, it has taken Buckley years with Mayo to try and get it right

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