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IndyCar 2015

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Any streams handy?

    Can we provide direct? I got mine from
    firstrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,758 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    That was a nasty pitlane incident, three crew people hit and still attending one on the ground.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    Can we provide direct?

    Nope. :P What channel is it on?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Love the difference in throttle-usage between the drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,433 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Never spotted the pit lane incident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Big crash between Hawk, Saavedra and Coletti.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Using a friend's phone for internet and it died at a most inopportune time...


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    Everyone alright I'm guessing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,166 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    JPM for the win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,758 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    That was a great final 16 laps after that safety car.

    Delighted for Montoya.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭acquiescefc


    Last to first. fair play JPM, think Wilson mightve helped a little on the back straight.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not generally a JPM fan but that meant a lot to him, hard not to be happy for him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,433 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Good to see him win it again at this stage of his career


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Not a fan of Montoya, but fair balls to him after the start he had!

    Also, sorry Buttonftw, had to run off so didn't see your reply, hope you got sorted!


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    Not a fan of Montoya, but fair balls to him after the start he had!

    Also, sorry Buttonftw, had to run off so didn't see your reply, hope you got sorted!
    I did, aye. Though like I said above, I lost the connection at a poor time for a while. :P

    Have to say it was an excellent race. Pity Power lost so much out of Turn 2 on the last lap to prevent a great ending. Forgot just how much I love IndyCar oval racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Incredible last 15 laps - Power Vs JPM was unbelievable racing - puts F1 to shame


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭acquiescefc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Uno my Uno.


    Only got to watch the first 120 laps or so but had the feeling that JPM had something special in him, from the back of the grid to 5th, back to 30th and was then back in 8th when I left. Wasn't all surprised when I heard the result!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Only got to watch the first 120 laps or so but had the feeling that JPM had something special in him, from the back of the grid to 5th, back to 30th and was then back in 8th when I left. Wasn't all surprised when I heard the result!

    You need to watch the last 15 laps - its being labelled the greatest 3 way battle of all time.

    Conor Daly has been confirmed as James Hinchcliffs replacement in the Sam Schmidt Honda #5 for this weekends double header in Detroit (Saturday and Sunday )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Conor Daly leading the field under caution. Good place for him to be as a rookie to get properly recognised. Let's see how this drying circuit goes for those now on slicks!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Nice move by Sato on the restart. But was it Green before he floored it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Uno my Uno.


    Same farcical situation we had at the first race, maybe there is something about these cars but it seems that these guys just cannot drive in the wet conditions. Since the dry line developed and the move to slicks was on we have managed one full lap of racing. This is on network TV in the U.S. And it's a terrible spectacle to watch guys takin turns to make silly mistakes on the run down to turn three followed by another 10 minutes of running under caution. After the last mess we have a red flag and the possibility that the race could be timed out and there won't be a finish.

    Edit, timed race now, five and half minutes of racing from when the cars rejoin the track, I'll bet money that the last four minutes of those are done under caution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Edit, timed race now, five and half minutes of racing from when the cars rejoin the track, I'll bet money that the last four minutes of those are done under caution.

    That would have been a costly bet - Bourdais gets his first 'indycar ' win (as opposed to Champcar), Indycar tends to throw a lot of yellows compared to F1, the decision to throw the red was correct and ensured a green finish for the fans (take note F1)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Uno my Uno.


    Infoanon wrote: »
    That would have been a costly bet - Bourdais gets his first 'indycar ' win (as opposed to Champcar), Indycar tends to throw a lot of yellows compared to F1, the decision to throw the red was correct and ensured a green finish for the fans (take note F1)

    Delighted to have lost my bet to be honest. I've no problem with the decisions to throw the yellow for the various incidents or even the REd at the end and I would imagine in similar circumstances F1 would have done the same. My issue is with the drivers who kept launching themselves down the inside off the dry line whie on slicks with predictable and inevitable results. That so many in the field are completely incapable of driving in the wet makes a mockery of the idea that Indycar is a top level of racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Bourdais gets his first 'indycar ' win (as opposed to Champcar)

    Bourdais' first VICS win was Toronto Race 1 last year ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    TheChrisD wrote: »
    Bourdais' first VICS win was Toronto Race 1 last year ;)

    Oop - My bad - that was the two races in the one day with the shortened laps, Indycar have been rather unlucky with the double headers !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭acquiescefc


    Delighted to have lost my bet to be honest. I've no problem with the decisions to throw the yellow for the various incidents or even the REd at the end and I would imagine in similar circumstances F1 would have done the same. My issue is with the drivers who kept launching themselves down the inside off the dry line whie on slicks with predictable and inevitable results. That so many in the field are completely incapable of driving in the wet makes a mockery of the idea that Indycar is a top level of racing.

    Its funny because Karam made 'the move of the day' by doing a banzai past 4 cars. His other two banzai attempts ended up straight up Jack Hawksworths rear end. If that hadve been one of the top guys there would be war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Uno my Uno.


    It's going to be yet another wet race for Indycar today. The Toronto street course is particularly troublesome because there are large sections of concrete which Bourdais described as being like ice in the wet.

    The Indy lights were tiptoeing around the course this morning and I expect the main race will be much the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Race start was brought up because of the weather, so the race should start just before ten past. If BT Sport are still only starting at the top of the hour, it's going to be right to the action!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    TheChrisD wrote: »
    Race start was brought up because of the weather, so the race should start just before ten past. If BT Sport are still only starting at the top of the hour, it's going to be right to the action!

    A really good race and very few incidents despite the wet/damp conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Some serious questions to be asked of indycar following the Fontana race, thankfully no injuries but 2 horror crashes both as a result of pack racing,the same pack racing that was supposed to be abandoned forever after Vegas 2011.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Mostly I've just been agreeing and liking other people's comments like this, but I guess I need to say it myself now: this was *NOT* like the old IRL pack racing. Old-school pack racing had all the cars nose-to-tail in 2 or 3 lanes with no ability for anyone within the pack to make any sort of moves on the car in front, or to defend from the car behind - basically just like NASCAR plate racing.

    We had here a race similar to Indy where most of the cars were strung in a long single-file, but because of the fact that Fontana is so wide and with so many distinct lanes compared to the likes of Indy and Texas, drivers were able to make moves along the straights and through the corners, which is what led to the multitude of 3, 4 and occasional 5-wide scenarios.

    Fontana has always been a track where cars are able to remain close and fight with each other, something that has been evident over the past three years. This and Michigan are the most ideal tracks with which this sort of racing can occur safely. It remains to be seen how the Pocono race will plan out, as that is more of a single-lane track like Indy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    TheChrisD wrote: »
    Mostly I've just been agreeing and liking other people's comments like this, but I guess I need to say it myself now: this was *NOT* like the old IRL pack racing. Old-school pack racing had all the cars nose-to-tail in 2 or 3 lanes with no ability for anyone within the pack to make any sort of moves on the car in front, or to defend from the car behind - basically just like NASCAR plate racing.

    We had here a race similar to Indy where most of the cars were strung in a long single-file, but because of the fact that Fontana is so wide and with so many distinct lanes compared to the likes of Indy and Texas, drivers were able to make moves along the straights and through the corners, which is what led to the multitude of 3, 4 and occasional 5-wide scenarios.y.

    Yes that Fontana is so wide did contribute butI I couldn't disagree more about this not being pack racing - this was pack racing,there was no single file and there was no ability to move as proven by 4 separate incidences.

    The drivers were clear this was pack racing and simply crazy with Will Power,Tony Kannan,Juan Pablo Montoya,Ryan Briscoe and Ryan Hunter Reay being the most vocal.Tim Cindric from Penske was also very vocal about the return of pack racing and Las Vegas was referenced by many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    Briscoe was on the flipside as one of the drivers who didn't mind this type of race, same with Rahal, Marco and Carpenter; as well as AJ Foyt himself.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well if they're referencing Vegas then maybe they should show more responsibility out on track. They do the same stupid **** everywhere, it just looks stupider on street tracks whereas it's dangerous on ovals. They need to grow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    TheChrisD wrote: »
    Briscoe was on the flipside as one of the drivers who didn't mind this type of race, same with Rahal, Marco and Carpenter; as well as AJ Foyt himself.

    Not been smart but if you have Madtex saying its ok then you have a problem ,Briscoe has changed his tune but ultimately the wisdom of champions is what matters and they are very publicly saying no more pack racing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD




    Full Fontana race if you missed it!

    Also bonus in-break commentary from the hosts :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    LOL, Power blocked me after my comment wondering if he'd been bitching about pack racing after this 4-wide moment he was involved in during Milwaukee practice on Saturday!

    https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/620262837483646976

    Oh, SeaBass won yesterday BTW. He pretty much utterly rekt in the second half of the race, he put the whole field a lap down at one point :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    Sickening hit on the head for Wilson :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Today's race at Pocono has several yellows. Debris from Sage Karam's car on last 30 laps (or so) from his own crash hit Justin Wilson on the head. May have been knocked unconscious hitting the inside safer barrier. Serious enough incident and hope the guy is OK.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,433 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Hopefully Wilson will be okay

    Track looks very dusty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes




  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ****. What kind of debris was it?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just caught the clip, really doesn't look good :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    ****. What kind of debris was it?

    One of the commentators reviewing the replay thinks it's part of the nose cone. It was bouncing about on the road and then hit him straight on the head as he came around the bend. The sheer speed Justin was doing when he hit it sent the piece really high into the air. Nasty, nasty incident.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    Unfortunately Justin Wilson has passed away

    I remember joining an iracing session years ago and being in awe that Justin Wilson was there on the same track as me, tragic news to wake up to thoughts are with his family and friends.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,433 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Very sad to see that news this morning, always seemed like down to earth nice guy. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Very sad news this morning,Justin always came across as an all round nice guy and a very good race driver achieving success in average teams.

    Justin Wilson RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Another sad day in Motorsport

    RIP Justin Wilson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Tragic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    These are the risks racing drivers take...and not everyone comes out the other side. Really horrible news.


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