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Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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    #5792
    lukesmom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Hi I'm currently taking seroquel 300mgXR every night along with cymbalta 120mg. I have had a lot of anxiety the past week or so and my doctor gave me the immediate release seroquel 25mg to take in the morning to try curb the anxiety. (I'm also practising mindfulness etc). Wondering has anybody taken it during the day and how to stop the drowsiness and will it ease up?


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    #5793
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    GeneralC wrote: »
    In my opinion, if you're not happy in the job and it's bringing you stress, then maybe you should consider something else. I know jobs are hard to come by now, but your health is a priority Mg1982.

    That's my thinking on it too GC, I mean the money is good and I'm grateful for that but I'm in the job six months now so should know if it's for me or not. I'm not good at dealing with stress or being around people for long periods of time. So maybe I will look for more solitary work.


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    #5794
    GeneralC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭GeneralC


    mg1982 wrote: »
    That's my thinking on it too GC, I mean the money is good and I'm grateful for that but I'm in the job six months now so should know if it's for me or not. I'm not good at dealing with stress or being around people for long periods of time. So maybe I will look for more solitary work.

    You say you're not good around people and that it brings you stress - do you enjoy the work end of it? Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe it's a good thing that there's people around you, would it really be healthy to find solitary work? I'm not so sure. I would view this as an opportunity to learn how to control your anxiety.


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    #5795
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭weadick


    Such a difference in a few months. The longer days make me feel so much better. I cycle to work. Go running. Can do things in the evening. Feel so much better compared to a few months back.


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    #5796
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    GeneralC wrote: »
    You say you're not good around people and that it brings you stress - do you enjoy the work end of it? Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe it's a good thing that there's people around you, would it really be healthy to find solitary work? I'm not so sure. I would view this as an opportunity to learn how to control your anxiety.

    Been in jobs the last five years that forced me to be around people And I still don't like it. It's juSt my personality.


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    #5797
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    GeneralC wrote: »
    You say you're not good around people and that it brings you stress - do you enjoy the work end of it? Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe it's a good thing that there's people around you, would it really be healthy to find solitary work? I'm not so sure. I would view this as an opportunity to learn how to control your anxiety.

    Sometimes I find that if I push myself too far then instead of swimming I sink. Being around people when it is worsening your anxiety is very difficult. I think it really affects your self esteem. It's always a good idea to learn techniques that lessen your anxiety but unfortunately they don't work overnight. I am out of work at the moment. This is definitely sometimes that concerns me as well. I am dreading having to work with people.


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    #5798
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    mg1982 wrote: »
    Been in jobs the last five years that forced me to be around people And I still don't like it. It's juSt my personality.

    Is it part of your personality or part of your anxiety. For me I try to make the distinction. I am in no way a social butterfly but I do remember a time when I had friends and found it easier to socialise. So for me I like to think that my unease around people is part of my social anxiety rather than a part of me.


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    #5799
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    Sometimes I find that if I push myself too far then instead of swimming I sink. Being around people when it is worsening your anxiety is very difficult. I think it really affects your self esteem. It's always a good idea to learn techniques that lessen your anxiety but unfortunately they don't work overnight. I am out of work at the moment. This is definitely sometimes that concerns me as well. I am dreading having to work with people.

    Being out of work is hard too I know. I spent most of my twenties out of work. I have managed to work the last number of years which is progress but I'm hoping to have a bit of a career change and find something less stressful. I do understand when you say you dread working with people.


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    #5800
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    mg1982 wrote: »
    Being out of work is hard too I know. I spent most of my twenties out of work. I have managed to work the last number of years which is progress but I'm hoping to have a bit of a career change and find something less stressful. I do understand when you say you dread working with people.

    At the moment it's not too bad. I am doing a part time course. My doctor has me signed off so I don't have the stress of looking for a job. That will change in a month or so. I genuinely don't know how long it will take me to find work. My cv looks terrible. It gives me hope though when you spent long periods unemployed but have been employed for the last few years. My last job was very demanding. I just couldn't keep up. Hopefully I'll get a lower level entry job in the same field. I feel my depression impacted on my ability to work. However my last employer told me I was rubbish and I shouldn't work in that field. I also had bad experiences with people in my last job. Past experiences really affect you.

    I hope you get a job less stressful. Life is far too short to dread going into work. And well done on working the last few years. That's not an easy task.


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    #5801
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    At the moment it's not too bad. I am doing a part time course. My doctor has me signed off so I don't have the stress of looking for a job. That will change in a month or so. I genuinely don't know how long it will take me to find work. My cv looks terrible. It gives me hope though when you spent long periods unemployed but have been employed for the last few years. My last job was very demanding. I just couldn't keep up. Hopefully I'll get a lower level entry job in the same field. I feel my depression impacted on my ability to work. However my last employer told me I was rubbish and I shouldn't work in that field. I also had bad experiences with people in my last job. Past experiences really affect you.

    I hope you get a job less stressful. Life is far too short to dread going into work. And well done on working the last few years. That's not an easy task.

    It really does depend on the people your working with too and how understanding they are. Unfortunately it seems in your last job you didn't have that And that can leave it's mark. I know they say we should be open about mental health in the workplace but I'm not so sure. I'm not sure how it would go down in my job.


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    #5802
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    mg1982 wrote: »
    It really does depend on the people your working with too and how understanding they are. Unfortunately it seems in your last job you didn't have that And that can leave it's mark. I know they say we should be open about mental health in the workplace but I'm not so sure. I'm not sure how it would go down in my job.

    I wonder how many do tell their employer. I think it would cause people to treat you differently. Also I would be worried in case my co workers heard about it. Some people pay no attention to confidentiality. There is still a lot of stigma attached to mental health.


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    #5803
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    I wonder how many do tell their employer. I think it would cause people to treat you differently. Also I would be worried in case my co workers heard about it. Some people pay no attention to confidentiality. There is still a lot of stigma attached to mental health.

    I would be worried too. In an ideal world we wouldn't care what fellow staff thought but unfortunately we do, maybe too much. Your right the stigma still exists.


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    #5804
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    mg1982 wrote: »
    I would be worried too. In an ideal world we wouldn't care what fellow staff thought but unfortunately we do, maybe too much. Your right the stigma still exists.

    To be honest I find some people can be very small minded. Some people would use anything to belittle a person. Some people would be very open about their mental health issues. I'm not open at all. I actually don't think I'll tell another person unless we become very close. I feel that other people will think I'm crazy, think there's something wrong me and have preconceived ideas about me.

    Has anyone overcome social anxiety? I'm trying and am finding it difficult as to be honest I am not really in social situations. I only speak to people outside my family maybe once or twice a week.


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    #5805
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    To be honest I find some people can be very small minded. Some people would use anything to belittle a person. Some people would be very open about their mental health issues. I'm not open at all. I actually don't think I'll tell another person unless we become very close. I feel that other people will think I'm crazy, think there's something wrong me and have preconceived ideas about me.

    Has anyone overcome social anxiety? I'm trying and am finding it difficult as to be honest I am not really in social situations. I only speak to people outside my family maybe once or twice a week.

    I'm always worried of being treated different if people found out about my mental illness, that I would be ostracised in a way. Ireland is still a very conservative country so being anyway different to people makes it hard.


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    #5806
    spudger1
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    greenfrogs wrote: »
    I wonder how many do tell their employer. I think it would cause people to treat you differently. Also I would be worried in case my co workers heard about it. Some people pay no attention to confidentiality. There is still a lot of stigma attached to mental health.

    Maybe i'm saying the following because i have a personal stake in some of it.
    However, i feel like there's a particular stigma attached to it in this country.

    If there is, perhaps it starts with cutbacks to health services. Then on top of that there's the mantra that the country is 'back to normal' so if a person is not happily working 55 hours per week, the problem is the person not the country.

    Is your CV as bad as you think? Do you know anybody who could help you out with it?


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    #5807
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    spudger1 wrote: »
    Maybe i'm saying the following because i have a personal stake in some of it.
    However, i feel like there's a particular stigma attached to it in this country.

    If there is, perhaps it starts with cutbacks to health services. Then on top of that there's the mantra that the country is 'back to normal' so if a person is not happily working 55 hours per week, the problem is the person not the country.

    Is your CV as bad as you think? Do you know anybody who could help you out with it?

    My cv is pretty bad. Long periods of unemployment and jumping from one area to another. To be honest the problem is me. I'm not sure if I'm even up for the area I want to work in. Even the thought of it makes me want to cry. My confidence in my ability is gone.


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    #5808
    Euphoria Intensifies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Euphoria Intensifies


    I'm pretty open about my mental health issues tbh, although not so much at home (I'm originally from a very rural area so there is definitely a lot more stigma there still I think). I definitely am open when it comes to work, but the area I'm trained in is probably a lot more easy going and understanding about this stuff than others.


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    #5809
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    Frigga_92 wrote: »
    I can sympathise with anyone who has suffered in their job or with fellow employees and the reluctance many people still have about being 100% honest about their mental health. Everyone in my workplace knows the difficulties I have - the reason why everyone in work knows is a complicated matter and I'd rather not go into detail - and if I am having a bad time of it (from a physical or mental point of view), they very much ignore it, think I should just get on with things and exclude me because they just have no interest in being around me.
    For example, I've been out of work since 6th February (I was rear ended on my motorbike) and I haven't heard from any of the people I work with, apart from my boss (which is hilarious!), since 4th March and even on that date they were replying to messages I had sent them so prior to that I hadn't heard from anyone of them since immediately after I was rear ended at the beginning of February. It's now May. I know when I go back I'll have to listen to "oh we missed you" etc, when really actions speak louder than words.

    My sister also suffers with her mental health and her experience is the same as mine. People still only talk about how they're feeling in hushed voices and try to downplay any mental suffering with "ah sure it'll be okay" kinds of attitudes. People still seem to have this idea that it's just feeling a bit sad and don't fully understand how much this envelopes you.

    I'm sorry to hear about your work situation. The work environment is such a minefield I find. Sometimes you just end up working with not nice people who you know just couldn't give a ****e about you.

    It's crazy how much mental health issues overtake your life. Since I've been diagnosed I've seen just how much it affected my life and changed me as a person. It's a horrible illness.

    I hope you feel better soon.


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    #5810
    Frigga_92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Frigga_92


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    To be honest I find some people can be very small minded. Some people would use anything to belittle a person. Some people would be very open about their mental health issues. I'm not open at all. I actually don't think I'll tell another person unless we become very close. I feel that other people will think I'm crazy, think there's something wrong me and have preconceived ideas about me.

    Has anyone overcome social anxiety? I'm trying and am finding it difficult as to be honest I am not really in social situations. I only speak to people outside my family maybe once or twice a week.

    I think some people see it as a weakness. You're weak because you feel this way, you're weak because you can't just overcome these feelings on your own, you're weak because you're not the same as everybody else. That's the way I feel I am looked at.
    I also feel like people almost think they're going to catch something off you or you'll start to bring them into a depressive episode if they hang around with you too much. I feel that's why "friends" of mine have pulled away.
    When really, what a lot of people need are true friends, who will stand by them as they go through the ups and downs and support them.


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    #5811
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Friends in work can often just be friendly people where you work. There can be such a clear divide between you and their own personal lives. It can be cold enough in some ways. I try to not become too invested in work friendships as they might just not go anywhere. Then again I am renowned for being difficult to get along with! LOL :D:o


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    #5812
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    I thought I'd get meeting new buddies through college and work but it just hasn't been the case sadly.


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    #5813
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    I thought I'd get meeting new buddies through college and work but it just hasn't been the case sadly.

    Me too! But I find if it's a big enough class or workplace and lots of others start at the same time as you, it's possible to make one or two friends, one might even be an enduring friend. Takes a lot of effort though. I don't think it's something just people with mental health issues struggle with, I think all people find it takes a lot of effort to persist with getting to know people well enough to call them friends.


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    #5814
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Me too! But I find if it's a big enough class or workplace and lots of others start at the same time as you, it's possible to make one or two friends, one might even be an enduring friend. Takes a lot of effort though. I don't think it's something just people with mental health issues struggle with, I think all people find it takes a lot of effort to persist with getting to know people well enough to call them friends.

    Don't get me wrong, I talk with some people and will share a joke over a cigarette etc, but there's a unspoken yet clear message that we'd only be work pals. A couple would be especially social too, always going out to the pub or to gigs, but there would never be an invite. I can't hold it against them though, I get it.


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    #5815
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I talk with some people and will share a joke over a cigarette etc, but there's a unspoken yet clear message that we'd only be work pals. A couple would be especially social too, always going out to the pub or to gigs, but there would never be an invite. I can't hold it against them though, I get it.

    Oh yeah sometimes it's not even unspoken! One of my college friends said explicitly she has enough friends and isn't looking to make any out-of-college friends from college! I spent 4 years of an undergrad left out!


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    #5816
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Oh yeah sometimes it's not even unspoken! One of my college friends said explicitly she has enough friends and isn't looking to make any out-of-college friends from college! I spent 4 years of an undergrad left out!

    Jaysus, that's a bit rough!


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    #5817
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Which bit? :P


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    #5818
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Which bit? :P

    All of it!


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    #5819
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Oh yeah sometimes it's not even unspoken! One of my college friends said explicitly she has enough friends and isn't looking to make any out-of-college friends from college! I spent 4 years of an undergrad left out!

    She sounds lovely :eek: honestly some people lack common decency


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    #5820
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    She sounds lovely :eek: honestly some people lack common decency

    She actually is! Hence, too many friends to keep up with as it is!


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    #5821
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    How do you find mixing with folks is for you Scrim?


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