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The Political Compass

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    #92
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Updated (with fixed Brian Shanahan)


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    Calibos and SW, clearly the odd ones out. :pac:


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    #93
    nagirrac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭nagirrac


    Economic -4.5
    Social -5.28

    I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.


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    #94
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    nagirrac wrote: »
    Economic -4.5
    Social -5.28

    I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.

    Add yourself to the crowd graph! :)


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    #95
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Updated (with fixed Brian Shanahan)


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    Calibos and SW, clearly the odd ones out. :pac:

    I think the graph means that SW is Stalin, gone so left he's turned up far right.


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    #96
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Would Calibos be Trotsky, then? :pac:


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    #97
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Would Calibos be Trotsky, then? :pac:

    Not quite. Trotskyism would have been far less restrictive than Stalinism, that is, if Trotskyism had actaully adhered to its principles if a Trotskyist goverment ever got into power anywhere.


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    #98
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,250 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Economic -3.25
    Social -5.95

    Added myself to the group graph, but buried under most other peoples names


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    #99
    Misty Moon
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭Misty Moon


    recedite wrote: »
    I thought the conventional wisdom was that people got more right wing as they got older? As in "lefty students protesting at corporate greed", and then a few years later donning the suit and tie, and complaining about the irresponsible youth of the day.

    I'm another one that has found that each time I do this (two or three times since it first came out) I move a bit further left and down. I think part of it comes from my being more inclined to say strongly agree/disagree, the older I get, instead of always being a bit wishy-washy with things. I remember being very surprised by how much further down I was between the first time doing it and the second time a few years later.

    Economic left/right: -8.00
    Social libertarian/totalitarian: -7.49


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    #100
    Sulla Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    nagirrac wrote: »
    Economic -4.5
    Social -5.28

    I would have seen myself as closer to the center on economic issues, but hey who am I to argue with myself.

    Apparently I'm easily amused, but the bolded just broke me up. :pac:


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    #101
    Mr_A
    Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Mr_A


    Economic Left/Right: -6.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

    Expected to be in that quadrant, but thought I'd be more central on the economic questions.

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    #102
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Latest update.

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    #103
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Economic Left/Right: -4.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62

    Spotting a trend here...


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    #104
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I decided for the craic to try answering the political compass test as our favourite whipping boy, Eamon de Valera. :pac:

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    #105
    Knasher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    I'm -5, -4.31 and I've added myself. Mostly trying to hide in the clump of other usernames.

    Must say I'm pretty suspicious of the whole thing though, absolutely none of the mods ended up in the authoritarian side, obviously something fishy going on there.


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    #106
    Waitsian
    Registered Users Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    Economic Left/Right: -10.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.62


    I'm where I figured I'd be - I added my name.


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    #107
    Gbear
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    m7xlh5a

    It's hard to see in the big mess in the center.

    Got -0.8,-7.1.

    Seems accurate enough.

    It feels like some of the questions that would effect the "libertarian/authoritarian" axis didn't really belong.

    I might be a giant racist and that would skew it towards the top but I mightn't have any problem with living in a free and secular society which is more important in determining your x-axis position, IMO.


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    #108
    Naz_st
    Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭Naz_st


    Hasn't changed much the last few times I've taken it...

    Economic Left/Right: -8.35
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92


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    #109
    westernfrenzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭westernfrenzy


    Economic Left/Right: -2.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

    Usually somewhere around there whenever I take it.


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    #110
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I took it (and added my results to the chart), but I found it a bit depressing. Several questions seemed to offer choices between (a) people doing unwise things or (b) being forced to do the wiser thing. They seemed to exclude the possibility of people choosing to do the right thing, without being forced to by "authority". :o

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #111
    the way ayyyy 55
    Site Banned Posts: 3 ✭the way ayyyy 55


    looking at the graph, the results seemed interesting.

    so I took a weighted mean average for each quadrant, to see what it might look like, and came up with this:
    i.imgur.com/XnIFUHK.jpg


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    #112
    JaseBelleVie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 936 ✭✭✭JaseBelleVie


    I took this and while yeah, it's very biased towards the United States and so on, I enjoyed taking it. It pretty much summed me up. Very centrist, but with just a dash of left-leaning. According to the graph of famous politicians, I'm close to Francois Hollande.

    I would be very, very centrist in my views. I would lean very to the left on certain issues (I'd be very much in favour of same-sex marriage/civil marriage, legalisation of cannabis, I'm very pro-choice, etc.). However, I would have the so-called "evil" libertarian streak in me as well; in that some things should not get support from the state at all if they are not able to stand on their own two feet and all that.

    Largely, I would like a lot of the ideals of the left-leaning parties and politicians, but I realise fully that they are, by and large, just fantasy and in reality will not work. I think that, and being controversial here, most realistic people are centrist. Society cannot function with just one set of principles (left/right, libertarian/authoritarian); it needs a blend of both. Idealistically, we would all be equal. Realistically, we are not. There will always be a hierarchy. In the caveman days, it would have been the fittest, the strongest. Nowadays, it is the richest, the cleverest. Sadly, this is not ideal. But this is the only way society can function in its present state.

    Anyway, enough philosophy, here's my chart:

    D75wWZt.jpg


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    #113
    nice_very
    Registered Users Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭nice_very


    Economic Left/Right: -5.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

    pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.88&soc=-4.36


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    #114
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    robindch wrote: »
    Economic Left/Right: -4.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

    Should be "Liberal", not "Libertarian"!

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    Agreed.



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    #115
    Gbear
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    K4t wrote: »
    Agreed.



    pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.38&soc=-6.62

    Terminology for political leanings has massively different meanings through time and in different parts of the world.

    Libertarianism as a concept isn't necessarily the same as the Libertarian party in the US, anarco-capitalism and so on.


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    #116
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Gbear wrote: »
    Terminology for political leanings has massively different meanings through time and in different parts of the world.

    Libertarianism as a concept isn't necessarily the same as the Libertarian party in the US, anarco-capitalism and so on.
    Of course.


    I consider myself a liberal but many would consider me extremely conservative in some of my views nowadays, mostly my opposition to any limits on speech or expression, my hope that the world is rid of religion and my support of the Iraq war amongst other things.


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    #117
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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    #118
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    In its basic opposition to state interference, libertarianism is the opposite to authoritarianism, as they have on the graph. So being against any state imposed limits on free speech is a libertarian stance.


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    #119
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    K4t wrote: »
    my opposition to any limits on speech or expression

    Weren't you arguing that a passenger shouting 'I HAVE A BOMB' on a plane should be considered 'free speech'? That's not conservative/liberal or any political position - it's just naive, unworkable and ridiculous.
    and my support of the Iraq war amongst other things.

    Oh, you support a war that was brought about by lies? You support a war that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and is projected to cost a total of $6tn (six trillion USD)? The war that spawned a brutal sectarian conflict and has left the world with ISIS?

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    #120
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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    #121
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Just added meself there. Shocked to see so many similar thinking people on it. I knew Boards attracted an alternative view than your average Irishman, but I didn't know just how close yiz all are together!


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