Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2014 10:47am

KMFCross wrote: »

Who is saying that Buckley would go if McHale was a coach?

To the best of my knowledge Connelly\Holms had Buckley as part of their team.

McStay did not.

irishgeo · 25-09-2014 12:00pm

KMFCross wrote: »

The word is that McNicholas is going to tell the board this evening that McStay & McHale were looking for too much money for the job so it automatically ruled them out of the running.

nobody gets paid apparently :rolleyes:

i thought it was a set amount of expenses as the revenue were looking at this closely.

naughto · 25-09-2014 12:40pm

irishgeo wrote: »

nobody gets paid apparently :rolleyes:

i thought it was a set amount of expenses as the revenue were looking at this closely.

Cash is king as they say

realweirdo · 25-09-2014 1:51pm

So first it was because Mcstay's presentation was too radical. Now its because they were looking for too much money?

I doubt it was money for themselves, it was money to put in place the correct structures and training camps, and proper preparation to get Mayo over the line.

Clearly the CB think the next management team can do it on the cheap.

So far, I have seen absolutely no reason to justify why McStay/McHale weren't given a fair go through the full process that was agreeed at the meeting on Friday night.

And there is absolutely no question that McNicolas has to go and one or two others along with him.

Audioslaven · 25-09-2014 2:10pm

realweirdo wrote: »

So first it was because Mcstay's presentation was too radical. Now its because they were looking for too much money?

I doubt it was money for themselves, it was money to put in place the correct structures and training camps, and proper preparation to get Mayo over the line.

Clearly the CB think the next management team can do it on the cheap.

So far, I have seen absolutely no reason to justify why McStay/McHale weren't given a fair go through the full process that was agreeed at the meeting on Friday night.

And there is absolutely no question that McNicolas has to go and one or two others along with him.

True. Whatever the opinions people have about the nominations, due process has to take precedence. All guys should have the stage to explain their presentation and ideas irrespective of any issues around money, trainers etc.

I do feel for McStay and McHale as they should have got their moment to present their case. It also raises questions over Connelly and Holmes especially with Connelly's brother as the vice chairman.

Chairman must go. If he cannot understand the basics around been transparent, upfront and applying due process to these guys that put their name forward, then I hate to see what he does with other aspects to Mayo GAA.

It reminds me of people voting in the village clown

boosabum · 25-09-2014 2:38pm

allegedly, it would have been compensation for loss of media duties which had to be addressed at an early stage, allegedly

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2014 3:10pm

But McStay had his chance to present is case obviously, of course the agreed procedures should have been followed but to say he didnt get a hearing is way off the mark. I'm curious as to what form the meeting/presentation took

Shady Tady · 25-09-2014 5:23pm

I hear Enda Kenny is taking over as chairman of the county board and he's proposing some McNulty fellow for the managers job, seems he played junior for ballyporeen and is therefore highly qualified. He made his first appearance for ballyporeen at Conor forward two weeks ago during the last game of the seasonðŸ˜€

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2014 6:26pm

Anyone going to the county board meeting tonight

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 7:56pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Anyone going to the county board meeting tonight

Every delegate in the county even those that never go will be there i'm sure. Would love to be there.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2014 8:24pm

There will be no vote of no confidence tonight anyway.

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 8:27pm

I believe that McStay didnt want to go through the formal inerview process and asked the chairman straight out if he was getting the job, he didnt want to be messed around. Also the money they were looking for was a big stumbling block

TCDStudent1 · 25-09-2014 8:33pm

realweirdo wrote: »

So first it was because Mcstay's presentation was too radical. Now its because they were looking for too much money?

I doubt it was money for themselves, it was money to put in place the correct structures and training camps, and proper preparation to get Mayo over the line.

Clearly the CB think the next management team can do it on the cheap.

So far, I have seen absolutely no reason to justify why McStay/McHale weren't given a fair go through the full process that was agreeed at the meeting on Friday night.

And there is absolutely no question that McNicolas has to go and one or two others along with him.

That is not clear. The CB have a responsibility to do these things within a reasonable budget and not run themselves into a big debt. I see no evidence anywhere that Connelly / Holmes are the 'cheap' option and it is not fair to suggest that they are.

I am stunned at the abuse thrown at Liam McHale on this thread. I dont particularly like him as a media commentator. But holy god, whether you like his personality or not, that guy gave a lot for Mayo football. He does not deserve some of the things said in this thread.

allegedly, it would have been compensation for loss of media duties which had to be addressed at an early stage, allegedly

I would find it hard to believe that. I wonder if that is the norm though. I'd imagine that the sunday game gig is a nice earner. I wonder if Loughnane got anything when he went to Galway hurlers.

There will be no vote of no confidence tonight anyway.

In who?

naughto · 25-09-2014 8:50pm

Paddy McNicholas has to go after all this

Kalyke · 25-09-2014 8:55pm

Paddy Mc wont tell what McStay was asking for.

Panrich · 25-09-2014 9:00pm

According to the twitter machine, the chairman is still digging. He now says that nobody in their right mind would have accepted McStay package.

Always_Running · 25-09-2014 9:00pm

Paddy Mc said at tonights meeting. no man in this room who would have accepted Kevin McStay's package a non runner he said.

km79 · 25-09-2014 9:13pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Paddy Mc said at tonights meeting. no man in this room who would have accepted Kevin McStay's package a non runner he said.

yes but the debate is not whether or not mcstay shud have got it or not BUT whether correct procedures were followed .......the chairman is doing a great job of distracting from this tonight . pure politics . disheartening

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 9:33pm

Connelly and Holmes have been ratified anyway.

naughto · 25-09-2014 9:35pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Paddy Mc said at tonights meeting. no man in this room who would have accepted Kevin McStay's package a non runner he said.

He should do the right thing an resign

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 9:36pm

Edwin McGreal ‏@edmcgreal

The meeting has moved on. No move against Mayo GAA Paddy McNicholas over his handling of appointment debacle.

Panrich · 25-09-2014 9:42pm

Rockfish wrote: »

Edwin McGreal ‏@edmcgreal

The meeting has moved on. No move against Mayo GAA Paddy McNicholas over his handling of appointment debacle.

MAYO FOR SHAM

Defiler Of The Coffin · 25-09-2014 9:45pm

Just what was in McStay's package? I MUST KNOW

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 9:47pm

Well it seems the Co Board delegates didnt agree with the 'mob' on here. As one delegate said the whole process was clumsy rather than sinister

Panrich · 25-09-2014 9:59pm

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Just what was in McStay's package? I MUST KNOW

I'd say that this will force McStay to comment further. He's been branded as a fool by the chairman tonight.

keeponhurling · 25-09-2014 10:00pm

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Just what was in McStay's package? I MUST KNOW

Stop thinking about another man's package

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 10:02pm

Panrich wrote: »

I'd say that this will force McStay to comment further. He's been branded as a fool by the chairman tonight.

Sorry?? He never said anything of the sort.

Rockfish · 25-09-2014 10:09pm

Panrich wrote: »

I'd say that this will force McStay to comment further. He's been branded as a fool by the chairman tonight.

Will he say what was in the package? You can bet your arse he won't

realweirdo · 25-09-2014 10:17pm

No attempt to negotiate with McStay by the looks of it.

There should have been an attempt at a compromise by both sides.

It just seems like McStay was written off very easily.

Fr Tod Umptious · 25-09-2014 10:19pm

So to sum up.

The nominated candidates were McStay and Connelly/Holmes.

Each had give a presentation of what they would do and what they needed.

A committee agreed that both should be interviewed.

Paddy Mc decided (and others may have thought this way too) that what was being requested by McStay was not realistic.
So he calls McStay to tell him as much and that the other pair are likely to get the job.
McStay says fine I'm not changing the package.

Then a few PR disasters on Saturday night and now Connelly/Holmes are ratified without the expected bloodbath at the CB.

All happy ?

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