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    #92
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,457 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Nearly a year?

    that;s some wait for an air rifle. Suppose at least it's over, but still.

    Best of luck with it.
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    #93
    cw67irl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭cw67irl


    What did it cost you murph do you mind me asking??? I was big into the Air rifles when the HW100 came up out but never bought one in the end!! Still have the temptation for one!!


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    #94
    Backfire
    Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    cw67irl wrote: »
    What did it cost you murph do you mind me asking??? I was big into the Air rifles when the HW100 came up out but never bought one in the end!! Still have the temptation for one!!

    I have a springer (hw97k) and i love it dearly but i have always wanted a PCP too, and the hw100k sporter stock is my favourite. Maybe some day....;)

    Let us know how the rifle is when you get it. What power rating will it have? 12ft/lbs?


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    #95
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    Thanks lads, its been a long wait alright, just glad that its finally getting sorted!

    I prefer the look of the sporter stock myself but function over form for me on this one and I think the pistol grip is more comfortable and practical.

    Its the FAC version which I think they are 25 ft-lbs.


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    #96
    1shot16
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Backfire wrote: »
    I have a springer (hw97k) and i love it dearly but i have always wanted a PCP too, and the hw100k sporter stock is my favourite. Maybe some day....;)

    Let us know how the rifle is when you get it. What power rating will it have? 12ft/lbs?

    Also have a hw97k in .22 love it to bits :D


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    #97
    Backfire
    Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    1shot16 wrote: »
    Also have a hw97k in .22 love it to bits :D

    Mine is a .22 too ;)


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    #98
    1shot16
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Mine has a nice few accessories too :)

    24ow.jpg


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    #99
    Backfire
    Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Backfire


    1shot16 wrote: »
    Mine has a nice few accessories too :)

    24ow.jpg

    Very nice indeed mate :)

    I dont have a sling or bipod on mine, its the mark II which is the same as yours. The Mark I had its barrell longer than the underlever and thus not a carbine and called the hw97. The new hw97k rifles have a different style to the stock, dont know if there is any other changes. I think our model is the nicest :)

    Albeit the weight is an issue and i can see the benefit of a bipod.

    I have a sling and bipod on a cz 455 .22LR rifle alright and the bipod is a massive comfort for accurate shooting.


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    #100
    1shot16
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Backfire wrote: »
    Very nice indeed mate :)

    I dont have a sling or bipod on mine, its the mark II which is the same as yours. The Mark I had its barrell longer than the underlever and thus not a carbine and called the hw97. The new hw97k rifles have a different style to the stock, dont know if there is any other changes. I think our model is the nicest :)

    Albeit the weight is an issue and i can see the benefit of a bipod.

    I have a sling and bipod on a cz 455 .22LR rifle alright and the bipod is a massive comfort for accurate shooting.

    Most springers dont shot well of bipods but its grand for a bit of plinking at close range.Small bit weighty but other than that i love it.Wanted a HW97K when i was 15 nd when i turned 16 straight to the dealers where i picked her up :D Shes a keeper :P


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    #101
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    Does anyone know where I can pick up a good quality 300bar surface use cylinder for my new air rifle?


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    #102
    Tikkat3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    murph226 wrote: »
    Does anyone know where I can pick up a good quality 300bar surface use cylinder for my new air rifle?

    Give Patrick Carley a call, he has them in stock and will courier to you http://patrickcarleyfirearms.com


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    #103
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    Still waiting on the licence, picked up a 7 litre 300 Bar cylinder and charging gear while I'm waiting.

    Any recommendations for cleaning gear and some oil for the stock?


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    #104
    Tikkat3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Most just get cleaned if accuracy drops so it's very different to a rim or Centre fire.

    I have perfect performance and. accuracy for a thousand rounds + at this stage.

    Air rifle barrels like to have lead in them for so many rounds but your barrel will let you know when that changes.

    A bunch of. 22 patches on a pull through is generally the accepted way on an PCP 22.


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    #105
    Eo1n8wrd
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Eo1n8wrd


    This video is handy, shows you how to make a pull-through that works perfectly with stuff you'll have kicking about in the shed:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZdYfmIAYBA


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    #106
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    Finally got a letter saying that my application had been received, I called the Supers office and was told I should have I should have the license letter in 10 days!


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    #107
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Tikkat3 wrote: »
    Most just get cleaned if accuracy drops so it's very different to a rim or Centre fire.

    I have perfect performance and. accuracy for a thousand rounds + at this stage.

    Air rifle barrels like to have lead in them for so many rounds but your barrel will let you know when that changes.

    A bunch of. 22 patches on a pull through is generally the accepted way on an PCP 22.

    I've had a Walther LG55 target springer since the late 1980's - the previous owners were my gun club in Berlin and I won it in a raffle on one of our frequent returns.

    Until I put a couple of cleaning pellets through it a few years back, I don't bleeve that the bore had ever been cleaned.

    Being a crappy shot anyhow, it didn't seem to make much difference. My Feinwekbau P70 hasn't yet been cleaned down the barrel, and the previous owner is a current Olympic silver medallist from the London Paralympics, having been a Gold medallist in Beijing. He'd never cleaned it either.

    Sadly, none of his skilful shooting was left in the rifle when it came to me...

    tac


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    #108
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    Finally got my grant letter this morning, should have the HW100 going in the next few days!

    Anyone else think the license fee is a bit on the steep side or am I just a tight barsteward?


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    #109
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,457 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    murph226 wrote: »
    Finally got my grant letter this morning, should have the HW100 going in the next few days!
    Congrats.
    Anyone else think the license fee is a bit on the steep side or am I just a tight barsteward?
    Considering the old price, and that you had to pay per year it's, overall, cheaper. Even the shotgun licenses are almost on a par.
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    #110
    1shot16
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    To be fair i think they should give a plastic card like a drivers lience!


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    #111
    cw67irl
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    What did the HW100 run you do you mind me asking?


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    #112
    BattleCorp
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    1shot16 wrote: »
    To be fair i think they should give a plastic card like a drivers lience!

    Yep, that is a good idea. And it should have a photo on it too. I'm amazed that the current licences don't have a photo seeing as we have to supply one when we are applying for the licence.


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    #113
    1shot16
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Yeah a photo should be on it too i was surprised to get a crappy piece of paper and i paid 80 for a feckin licence!


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    #114
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Yep, that is a good idea. And it should have a photo on it too. I'm amazed that the current licences don't have a photo seeing as we have to supply one when we are applying for the licence.

    That's unusual.

    So anybody checking your license really has no idea if you really are who you say you are.

    How, then, do you buy ammunition in a store where you are not known?

    tac


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    #115
    Witcher
    Registered Users Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    tac foley wrote: »
    That's unusual.

    So anybody checking your license really has no idea if you really are who you say you are.

    How, then, do you buy ammunition in a store where you are not known?

    tac

    They just note down all the details off the licence, that's all they can do really.


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    #116
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Thanks, Blay.

    Just seems to be open to abuse by a person with criminal intent, that's all.

    tac


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    #117
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,457 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    It has worked this way since the start.

    When the 2009 licensing system was "overhauled" there was talk or rumor of a new card and it having a photo on it. Hence the reason we were required to supply two photos with each application. It never materialised. Like the new system itself it was rushed into service before it was ready and the new cards turned out to be pale imitations of what they were supposed to be.

    If the system was abused and someone with a stolen or fake license got ammo they still need the firearm. It would only be if the Gardaí decided to audit that any errors would be caught. It is far from perfect, but again it "works" so is not properly updated.
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    #118
    1shot16
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    And also u could buy any .22 ammo should specify maybe what .22 ammo u can buy as is LR WSM HORNET etc

    Who do we go to with these new proposals?

    Also draw up a list whats like for like i find that very vague also....


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    #119
    Cass
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    Who do we go to with these new proposals?
    Approach your NGB. Give in your details, concerns and ask them to bring up the topic. It's better this way as they will provide all such applciations rather than the one at a time if people were to send it to the DoJ directly. Also it would be ignored from an individual.
    Also draw up a list whats like for like i find that very vague also....
    It's purposely like that. So the end decision can be made by the Super and s/he has room to manoeuvre"".
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    #120
    murph226
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭murph226


    License and rifle finally arrived, they gave me 100 rounds on the license after asking for 500.

    The scope is just barely touching the barrel with medium mounts, would it be ok to shim the scope up with something like a sliver of lead instead of getting new mounts, or would I be ok even temporarily until I get some new mounts?


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    #121
    BattleCorp
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    murph226 wrote: »
    License and rifle finally arrived, they gave me 100 rounds on the license after asking for 500.

    Is it even possible to buy 100 pellets? I've only ever seen tins of 500 or more.

    If they aren't sold in batches of 100 but only larger tins, how are you supposed to buy ammo legally?


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