Battlefield Hardline - Closed Beta - General Discussion

Beta just appeared in my origin, applied about 1hour after it opened and didn't get any email confirmation from EA, so there's still hope for those waiting.

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Played a few more games of blood money
and it really is a fantastic game mode. If you have a team that is even half awake and it does feel like a game mode where a single squad can turn the tide.


the simple fact that one team can not just pull back from the edge of defeat but also win a game is a great showcase for a nailbiting exciting game mode.

It's not like heist where it's very clear that when one team gets the initiative its near impossible to hold them back. Blood money when it becomes clear that you are being trashed in the middle you just change the script and take the fight to their vault.


Though there are some changes I'd like to see:

the mony bags are tiny when dropped, I've picked up money without noticing during gunfights

I might have preferred if there was just one more dynamic to the central money point over simply being an never ending supply at one point.

Either having a set limit to *loose* money and forcing the two teams to start robbing each other after a point or some dynamic to the money (random spawns so its not always in the same place [though clearly the map is designed around that point], or something to shake it up)

What is the player count on Beta... is it 64 players?

I haven't played it yet and probably won't (PS4 here) but watching the videos it does look very clustered... what about random safes opening on the map meaning you have to race there in vehicles to get it... kinda GTA-ish but so what, beats the camping in the centre point.

I guess there is a lot they can do with this... original

You were disconnected from EA Online (1)

What is wrong with this? I can't join any server, I played B3 single player normally, but can't play online. Today I got access to beta BF:Hardline and I got same problem. Any advices?

Finally appeared on my account last night!May have been there all along but I never checked as I was waiting for an email from them.

ktulu123 wrote: »

That self revive thing is a load of bollox & will hopefully be removed from the final game

Haven't played the game but YES, WTF is that in there for

Got into this last night, played for a few hours.

So far, ****e on a stick.

Yeah, it feels like it has better hit detection and so on than BF4 did, but that's more down to BF4 CTE and "better" here just means "almost what we thought we were going to get from day one when we paid out most of a hundred euro for BF4 last time".

The movement still feels leaden, the helos still wobble around awkwardly when you fly and run out of power the very moment you need to do a steep turn, the screen shake when the crane falls is downright stupid because how the hell does a crane hitting the ground cause the viewpoint in a helicopter in the air on the far side of the map to shake???.

The guns feel... off. It's hard to put that one in words, but it's like they're not hitting very hard downrange and they feel like toy cap-guns to you when firing. And this "You can't upgrade to this scope until you get X kills with this gun" nonsense is ridiculous bull****. I have a job and a life and **** to do EA, that's how I can afford your games, I don't expect to be told in-game that I have to put in six hours work to get to play the way I want to play! FFS.

Not to mention, it means that the people who can put in 16 hours a day playing games will get an advantage over those who can't not just because of the practice time, but because everyone else can't get the red dot sight or scope or whatever they're used to from BF4 so they'd have even half a chance in a match with those lads. Get a month in past release and new players will be so outmatched by peoples gear that it'll be ridiculous. It's almost as bad as pay-to-win.

And the map's about 10% too small and confined.

And worst of all, while the modes (well, blood money anyway) could be fun, they go beyond where BF4 went in promoting teamwork; right out to the point where it's mandatory now to be in a team communicating on teamspeak. In BF4, when you go onto a server as a singleton, you're not as effective as a team by a large margin but you can still, if you're good enough and a little lucky, have a decent match and enjoy it. But in Hardline, if you have even three or four people working as a team and your side is singletons? Give up, go play chess, you'll get more fun out of it. It's ludicrously unbalanced in the teams-v-singletons game now. All the singletons can do is hang back and snipe - anyone getting up close to the action or, heaven forfend, actually trying to play the objective, is going to get shot in the back of the head by the opposing team.

mozattack wrote: »

This is a real problem for you! :rolleyes:

My gaming time is whatever I can steal from my sleep time. The time that used to be my gaming time is now used to wrestle a naked poop-covered toddler in the shower so I can get him cleaned up and back into a nappy; so when I don't like facing exactly the same task when I fire up a game to unwind (instead of the more sensible opening-a-beer option). It's dumb, it's stupid, and I do not play computer games so that I can do repetitive tasks over and over again to get to the good stuff (FFS, I write scripts in work to do that kind of stuff for me, why would I go back to the dull stuff on my own time?).

Burgo wrote: »

Yup, agree with that as well. It really does feel that thin.

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

I really don't get this. Every single game I can ever remember playing has an unlock system the exact same as this.

My bottom. Wolfenstein 3D didn't, Doom didn't, Quake didn't, Quake 2 didn't, none of the FPSs had this "qualifying" nonsense until recently. (Yes, I'm going way back. I do that, I'm old :P )

And even BF4 doesn't have this system, because in BF4 it was a case of "get this many kills with this gun, unlock this scope and use it". In Hardline it's "earn in-game money but you aren't allowed spend it on that scope until you also get this many kills with this gun". Not enough to earn the credits, you have to qualify in order to spend them as well. That's a pure pay-to-win bull**** tactic right there, just look at Ghost Recon which uses exactly the same system so you'll pay more real-world money to level up. (And it's been called out as nonsense there as well because unless you drop as much real-world money in-game as you did to buy BF4, you can't compete once you get past the beginner fenced-in levels, no matter how much you practice).

If you haven't got the time to put in to the game, that's your problem - not that game's.

I strongly disagree. It's just bad design. This is a game, it's meant to be picked up, played with for a reasonably short time and then put down. This isn't some single-player storytelling experience where I could understand it, this is multiplayer, 20-minute rounds (unless it's Hardline in which case it's often only about 90 seconds per round), with customisable weapons to suit playing style, designed to be jumped into and jumped out of just as quick. It's meant to be fun. I'm not supposed to have to qualify in order to have fun, for pete's sake.

If you want to spend six hours playing with the basic rifle to "earn" the scope, put that in a tutorial level or go do it on the test range, don't force people who've paid a hundred euro to be here to go through this ridiculous unlocking crap. To quote Dara O'Briain, "I'm thirty-seven years old. I unlocked it in a shop with my credit card."